00:00watch and to listen to the new album of Haribai, so what do you have to say about it?
00:04Every time Haribai does an album, it is not just an album, it's an experience.
00:12Unki awaaz, unki gai ki, ye compositions, ye sama jo ho baante na.
00:20It's a listening pleasure, not just for musicians, but for every common person.
00:28We look forward to his albums. I've been associated with Haribai since Halka Nasha.
00:33I've known him since then. I've been a fan, I've been a friend, and it's been a great experience to
00:44experience his music.
00:47John Mayri has something very different again.
00:53And every time Haribai does an album, he always manages to do something really unique,
01:01something that his listeners are looking forward to, but yet they find something beautiful in it.
01:07The style of music, even though he sticks to his genre, which is ghazal,
01:13but he brings a magical experience for his listeners.
01:17And this album, again, I've been listening to it inside.
01:21I've been watching it, and really brilliant performances.
01:25The video is really nice.
01:27It's good to see Karan in the video, and Kashish, and Haribai, of course.
01:33And this album is another milestone.
01:36We had a long conversation with Hari, sir, about independent music,
01:40which is a much optimal topic in the last few years, especially after COVID, sir.
01:47You also create a lot of independent music, because film may music come up.
01:52How do you see independent music growing or changing in the next few years?
01:59Independent music has already changed.
02:01There used to be only film music before.
02:10There used to be only music mostly made for films.
02:13If you watch it, there's more independent music and film music is less.
02:19And this was the only thing.
02:23It's easy for a musician, a singer, a composer to make a song and to release it.
02:30But it's not like that before, because music is all digitally, it's become easier for the makers to make music.
02:44As a creator, as a musician, as a singer, composer, you have all the freedom to do what you want.
02:56So the expression of art form of music has gone really high up, because of independent music.
03:02And I understand that this will grow even more.
03:05This will grow even more.
03:07This will grow even more.
03:08This will reach even more.
03:09This will reach even more to people.
03:10And this is just the beginning.
03:12It's been a few years.
03:14Because COVID has set a very good benchmark for independent music to rise.
03:19And this is just the beginning.
03:22And how it's not been viable as if it was the investment and the recovery?
03:27What is the whole economics you could tackle in there closely?
03:31It's not that.
03:33I won't say you should.
03:35You know, when you're following Saraswati, you should follow Saraswati.
03:38You should not look at Lakshmi.
03:42You follow Saraswati and Lakshmi will follow.
03:45You should not.
03:46Music is an art form.
03:48I'm so happy it's back.
03:51Because there is really no.
03:54Not many people are thinking about how much it's going to do in terms of money.
03:58For an artist, there are other ways of making money.
04:02There is live concerts.
04:04There is, you know, live performances.
04:07And, you know, corporate kind of anthems or, you know, whatever.
04:12Ways for an artist to earn money.
04:14But when you do an album, when you do any piece of music which is real,
04:21it becomes absolutely artistic.
04:24And that's the best part.
04:26So, you said that follow Saraswati and Lakshmi Ji and Devan Chivarika.
04:32I think that's what your friend and your industry friend Erjee built.
04:37Yeah, I mean, I think, I'm not surprised at all.
04:41We've done it a lot earlier.
04:43I haven't done it many years.
04:44I don't have any film music yet.
04:46And I very much before COVID-19, I went to experience,
04:51I didn't experience, but I felt, I hasn't wanted any other offers.
04:56That's why I was happy.
04:57Sure it's my society.
05:01I felt like in 2018, in 2019, before COVID-19,
05:05that I felt like the film music.
05:07I got to step on the way I went by and I got to step on the independent music.
05:18And fortunately, today, five or six years later, there is a time where I don't know, many people have realized
05:28that the film, music is a lot of great success, but there is no such a film, there is no
05:38such a different type of stories, stories, stories, stories, stories, stories, stories.
05:50But it was quite a shock, because you have reduced it, but then one is at the top of the
05:57story and officially announced it.
06:13It was my last film, 102 Not Out, which was Rishi Kapoor Sahib and Mr. Bachchan, Amit Abachchan. It was
06:21my last film, where I made music.
06:24What do you mean by saying is that this is not just Rishi Kapoor Sahib?
06:32Yes, many people have not given a statement publicly.
06:37I have not given a statement that I have given a statement from the playback.
06:47But music is a very big field.
06:50Playback is a small part of it.
06:53So there is no harm in it.
06:57I am sure there is a lot of music.
07:01Maybe there is a film, but there is a lot of music.
07:07Some people will say that there are a lot of music.
07:13So it will be a little bit more.
07:13What do you think about this is not just that your business is not getting as much work as
07:18in the 1990s.
07:19And because there was two things, there were two important things.
07:22One was because there was a power shift in the industry.
07:25That was one thing.
07:26And he also said, probably due to communalism.
07:28So what do you see?
07:30I don't think that is true, actually.
07:34I mean, with all due respects to what Rahman said,
07:38he may be right in his own way, for his own experience.
07:41I don't think that's true.
07:44I feel that, you know, a composer who's doing the biggest film
07:50in the history of Indian cinema and world cinema,
07:53which is a Hindu epic called Ramayana,
07:57if he's a composer of that,
08:00then I don't think there is any problem with any communal things.
08:03But that's my lookout, my take on it.
08:05He may have his own reasons.
08:09Having said about music and film music,
08:11I think he's done a lot of music.
08:13Even now he's doing a lot of music, film music.
08:17Because in the South, there's still a very big film music culture.
08:22So.
08:27For the last two, three years, we get to hear a lot of concert culture.
08:34Do you think India is ready for that kind of culture at best for us?
08:40Yes, absolutely.
08:41I think people really want to experience live music right now.
08:45In fact, more than film ticket, theater ticket,
08:49they want to go to a live music concert and experience that.
08:55Because, you know,
08:57people there are more entertainment-wise or engagement-wise,
09:05their hearts are more fulfilled when they go to a live concert.
09:10That's what I think.
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