00:03First, how did the entire album come and how was this implemented and the entire album took place?
00:11Jaan Meri, it's a collaboration within me and the poet Faraj Shahzad.
00:21We have done work together, a lot of singles and things like that.
00:26So, me and Faraj Shahzad, we have been doing a lot of singles, but it's the first time we wanted
00:35to do an album for a long time.
00:37So, just pre-COVID, we started working on the album and through the COVID we worked and it took about
00:47three years, three and a half years to conceive and do the album.
00:51I take a lot of time and some of the ghazals, ghazals were, it asked time from me, it demanded
01:01the time from me to give that kind of a composition like Chalageya and Lahu.
01:07And we have different styles of music basically.
01:16Sir, so these days people talk a lot about independent music, but you are the OG.
01:23So, I mean, in the 90s when there were very few bands and, you know, you created Korean culture.
01:30So, these days independent music, they get good traction due to Chalageya.
01:36How was it in the 90s? Was it very difficult to make it very well?
01:40You know, actually, you know, during the 90s, there was a huge wave of independent music.
01:48Even in the Hindi pop scene and the fusion scene and a lot of artists were, got into the scene.
01:57Especially Magna Sound produced at least about five, six to seven artists and they were all, we are all very
02:03popular.
02:05So, and independent music is music per se.
02:09We are not dependent on a screenplay or a movie or a star.
02:17You are a star yourself.
02:20It's like the Western world, you have independent music.
02:24And independent music is going to grow very big in India.
02:31So, basically, in the West, this was always a friend, independent music and albums.
02:37But here in India, singers, mostly, you know, they used to get pain due to the films and all of
02:44us.
02:44No, no, absolutely.
02:46I mean, I got my fame through films.
02:49So, all of us, we have got our films.
02:51But the kind of films and the music in films has become less.
02:56Because the type of, the way they say the movie, they tell the story is different.
03:06It's very practical, it's very dialogue oriented, it's very scene oriented.
03:12And hence, music, songs as such, not background score.
03:17Songs as such, it has taken a back seat.
03:23It's a change.
03:25It's a change in making the movies being made.
03:28Of course, you will have some, what you call, item numbers becoming popular or some very sad numbers becoming popular.
03:38That's fine.
03:38I mean, and it's good.
03:40I mean, any music is good, which serves its purpose.
03:43But here is, there is a chance of independent music growing.
03:50So, do you think this is one of the reasons why, in the last few years, movie cinema is not
03:57a gauge of a public as it used to be in that way?
04:01Like, only the public is that people don't go to theatres as much as they used to go there.
04:07But the second thing also, which you spoke about at a very valid point, that the music is not as
04:14a part of cinema as it used to be earlier.
04:18What do you support a lot of people?
04:21See, basically, again coming to it, if the situation is there, then you can write a lyrical song.
04:35If you're dreamy, then you can write a dreamy song.
04:39If you're, if you're, if you're in a dream, then you can say something like a song.
04:43But if it is only practicality, and the dialogues are different, and the storytelling is different, then you can say
04:51something like a song.
04:54So, something else decides what kind of music comes.
05:01Film music is not per se.
05:03So, the change of films, type of films, the music will change.
05:11Aaj bhi, aap, kisih tarha ke gaana, aap gaah sakte hain.
05:17Kisih tarha ke lyrics, aap gaah sakte hain, in independent music.
05:21You don't have to say ki, yaar, ye hit hoona hai.
05:26We are spending so much money.
05:28Let it be a better hit.
05:29Because, film, films have survived, mostly because of hit music.
05:37It has, it has covered, their balance sheets, basically.
05:44Songs, and they can sing, whatever they want.
05:48Aaisa nahi bolengke, yaar, heroine, aisa nahi kaa sakte hain.
05:51Ya, hero nahi kaa sakte hain, sida kao.
05:53Koi nahi hain, aap kuch bhi kaa sakte hain.
05:55So, the art form, you have, you can take it to its limit, basically.
06:03So, it's good.
06:04Do you think this can be one of the reasons, the shift in the industry is, or can be one
06:09of the reasons why Arjun Singh announced it at the place?
06:13Maybe, I don't know, because I can't comment about it, but if he has stepped down, there must be a
06:21very strong reason.
06:22You know, like, because he is the top person who has been singing all the songs, and if he wants
06:28to step down, he has a good, he must be having a good reason for it.
06:32And all the best to it.
06:34But, like, as a senior singer, like a much more senior singer, how do you see him stepping down, because
06:42you said he was at the top of his career series?
06:44He's not stepping down, he's stepping away.
06:47There's nothing down about it.
06:49He's stepping away because he wants, maybe he wants to do creative music, or he wants to have more time
06:54for himself.
06:55Who knows?
06:57Have you ever felt, can you take small breaks, just to have more time, because you have it?
07:03No, no, I do take my breaks.
07:06If you see my career, there have been periods where I've been just sitting at, you know, doing my thing,
07:13basically.
07:15And, because, you know, you can't keep, especially when you produce music, when you compose,
07:20and you have to take your, you've got to go back to the drawing board, you've got to, you've got
07:28to have a break,
07:31and you need, it's creative, you need space for creative input, you know.
07:38So, we, I keep taking it.
07:46See, concert culture, post-Covid, concerts are the in-thing for artists.
07:55Absolutely.
07:57There, the concerts, scene has,
08:04it's ignited.
08:06All, all artists are busy,
08:08and there are thousands of people who come for concerts,
08:11and, uh, they really support it.
08:14And, uh, that has changed.
08:15That scene is growing.
08:17It's a fantastic.
08:19Do you think now that artists, like a lot of artists,
08:21I'm not talking about the top ones,
08:24but the ones who come in,
08:27the second or third gallery,
08:30so they complain a lot about their page and pages that they get from,
08:35for the producers,
08:37for the music producers,
08:38for the film producers,
08:39so do you think this concert culture is going to,
08:42you know,
08:43bring a, you know,
08:45economic move for them?
08:46Obviously,
08:47if you're,
08:48see,
08:48if you're a good artist,
08:50if you're a good live artist,
08:53you will get work.
08:55And you will be successful.
08:57You will have enough money to run your house.
09:01That's a big thing.
09:02The economic viability in music is much more now,
09:07if you're a live artist.
09:10Be it classical music,
09:11be it semi-classical music,
09:13be it pop music,
09:15be it film music.
09:16There is an audience for everything.
09:18Because anywhere there is a function,
09:21the only thing they have is music program.
09:27That's amazing.
09:38See,
09:38I'll tell you one thing.
09:41I do all concerts,
09:42kind of concerts.
09:43I'm very open.
09:44but I need a decorum
09:46when I sing
09:47and I make sure I have it
09:49and I'm peaceful with it.
09:54What is,
09:57why do you sing?
10:00To bring happiness.
10:04And if you can get happiness,
10:06that happiness,
10:07in any situation,
10:09with proper ambience,
10:12it's fine.
10:12Why do you rely on the machine?
10:16And also,
10:17now,
10:17you know,
10:18since we are talking,
10:19I want to know about,
10:21I was a difficult question,
10:23I want to know about
10:25your favorite
10:25number
10:28that you sang
10:29during that.
10:30What's the lack of your favorite?
10:58It's one of them,
10:59which comes,
10:59Bahon Ki Dharmiya is there.
11:01Haira Maa,
11:03then,
11:03Tuhirei of course.
11:05So many songs,
11:07yeah.
11:11It started with Panchamta.
11:13I used to love him.
11:17He was amazing.
11:29He was,
11:31he had a child in him
11:36and that was his special quality.
11:39He was so simple
11:41and
11:44he had a brilliance about him,
11:46the way he
11:47did his phrases
11:49and his compositions.
11:52and you think about,
11:54he is a person
11:55whose composition
11:56has been
11:57the maximum
11:58it has been
12:01what do you call it,
12:03done fusion with
12:04because it could lend to it.
12:07The composition
12:08was so open
12:09and so modern,
12:11so ahead of its time,
12:12you could do something with it.
12:15And he is relevant
12:16and he is relevant
12:17and police
12:18That's what I'm saying.
12:20So he is,
12:20he is,
12:21he is amazing.
12:23I would say.
12:23He is amazing.
12:24Right.
12:25He is a big shock.
12:30I used to sing with Asha ji
12:38as a co-singer
12:39and
12:41Panchamta
12:42used to be there
12:43and I have travelled with him
12:45and
12:45I have learnt a lot of things
12:48from him
12:48and
12:49he is like a mentor to me.
12:51Yes, yes, yes.
12:57Yeah, yeah, yeah.
12:58Yeah, Raman,
12:59Ile Raja.
13:00I have worked with all the
13:01South Indian.
13:02I have worked with Naushat Sahib.
13:04I have not,
13:05yes.
13:05I have worked with
13:07Jai Dev Ji.
13:08He gave me my first break.
13:10I have worked with Salilda.
13:14I have worked
13:16Huh?
13:18Salih Chaudhary.
13:19Salih Chaudhary, yes.
13:22I did two films for him.
13:24Of course,
13:24it was a Malayalam film
13:25which I dubbed into Hindi
13:27but I was,
13:28I worked with him
13:29and
13:29it was an amazing experience.
13:32Naushat Sahib ke saad
13:35Taj Mahal karke
13:36a movie produced by
13:41Akbar Khan.
13:42Yeah, yeah.
13:45Mumtaz tujhe dekha
13:49Jabtaj mahal dekha
13:54Is tariqe ke kaane hain
13:56So actually five generations
13:59of music directors
14:02I also have sung with.
14:04And how was your
14:05history of Raman?
14:06Raman has been beautiful.
14:08Yes, yes.
14:09We did a lot of songs
14:11for the first
14:1210-12 years
14:14of his career.
14:15I used to be a regular
14:16singer for him
14:17and
14:17we did a lot of
14:19good stuff.
14:20Since you have a long
14:21association with him
14:22and you know
14:22he spoke closely
14:23so I
14:24am sure
14:25you reacted also
14:26on the recent
14:27statement
14:28that
14:28was given by him
14:31so
14:32what are you
14:33not for?
14:33Actually,
14:34I wouldn't comment on it
14:35because I don't know
14:36in what context
14:37he spoke.
14:38So
14:40I have
14:41been very close to him.
14:42I know him as a person
14:43and he is a
14:45beautiful human being.
14:48As
14:48what he is a
14:49beautiful composer.
14:51You know,
14:51the same thing.
14:52So
14:54best wishes with him
14:56basically.
14:57So
14:57we are not
14:59asking you to comment
15:00in that context
15:01but generally
15:01this is a question
15:02to me
15:03that
15:04in the industry
15:06you have
15:06sung
15:07almost all the
15:08Yeah.
15:09We are a
15:11Mumbai guy
15:13and then
15:14we have
15:14been very close
15:17right.
15:28I don't
15:29somehow I feel
15:30you know
15:31in the commercial world
15:33if you
15:34if you
15:36give
15:37what is
15:38needed
15:39the result
15:40the
15:42commerciality
15:43if you give
15:43that
15:43they accept
15:44it.
15:46To break in
15:47you might
15:48have some
15:48problems
15:48problems.
15:50When I started
15:50singing
15:51Ghazals
15:51I thought
15:51this is
15:52Madras
15:52how will
15:54How will it be?
15:55That is
15:56obviously
15:56so
15:59that gave
15:59me a
16:00positivity
16:00to work
16:01harder on
16:02my
16:02pronunciation
16:03and things
16:03like that.
16:05Luckily
16:06I was
16:06from
16:07Bombay
16:07so
16:08I could
16:09kind of
16:10manage it
16:11you know
16:11it took me
16:11time
16:12but I
16:13think
16:13basically
16:13if
16:13something
16:14is
16:14like
16:14that
16:14also
16:15work
16:15hard
16:15and
16:16break
16:16it
16:16you know
16:16there are
16:17hurdles
16:18sometimes
16:19just break
16:20it
16:35because
16:35it's a
16:36male oriented
16:37film
16:39the scripts
16:40are for
16:40male
16:40so
16:41where does
16:42a female
16:42come in
16:43see
16:43please
16:44try to
16:44understand
16:45again and
16:46again
16:46I say
16:46that
16:46film
16:47music
16:48is not
16:48music
16:49per se
16:53there used
16:54to be
16:54only
16:54female
16:55songs
16:56because
16:56it is
16:57female
16:57oriented
16:58films
16:59so
17:00why
17:00we
17:01keep
17:01forgetting
17:01it
17:02there is
17:03nothing
17:03against
17:03females
17:04or
17:05males
17:07you
17:07understand
17:08what I'm
17:08saying
17:08there is
17:09nothing
17:09against
17:10anybody
17:10it is
17:11what
17:12is
17:13happening
17:13with the
17:14industry
17:14that's
17:14it
17:15and in
17:15the
17:16concert
17:16also
17:17it's
17:18often
17:18heard
17:19that
17:19male
17:20voice
17:20is
17:20preferred
17:21more
17:21over
17:21the
17:21female
17:22voice
17:22as
17:23after
17:23all other
17:23words
17:26I don't
17:27know
17:27I mean
17:28now
17:28you
17:28go to
17:29Shreya's
17:29concert
17:30or
17:30Suniti
17:31Chawan's
17:31concert
17:31or
17:33Ashaji's
17:34concert
17:34when
17:34they used
17:35to keep
17:35performing
17:36you had a
17:36full house
17:38like today
17:39in the
17:40in the
17:40Ghazal
17:40world
17:40Pratibha
17:41is singing
17:41she's singing
17:42around the
17:43world
17:43and she
17:44gets
17:44audience
17:45I don't
17:46know
17:46it's very
17:47difficult
17:47to
17:48comment
17:49something
17:49like
17:57that
18:04no
18:04I've
18:05not
18:05I've
18:06been
18:06traveling
18:06a lot
18:06so
18:07he's
18:07not
18:08been
18:08well
18:08yeah
18:08yeah
18:09no
18:11I don't
18:12know
18:12about
18:12it
18:12yeah
18:12yeah
18:13yeah
18:13yeah
18:13yeah
18:14yeah
18:14yeah
18:14yeah
18:14yeah
18:17yeah
18:19yeah
18:20the USP
18:24is that
18:25this album
18:26has got
18:26five songs
18:27five Ghazals
18:28written by
18:29Faraj Shahzad
18:30Jaan Meri
18:32Jaan Meri
18:33Ik nahi
18:34Sao baar
18:37karke
18:38dekh lo
18:39Kuch nahi
18:42ho paega
18:44Tum
18:45pyaar
18:46karke
18:47dekh lo
18:49Jaan Meri
18:51it's a light
18:52hearted song
18:52then you have
18:53Baat Se Baat
18:54a very
18:55kind of a
18:57Boznoa
18:57kind of a
18:58song
18:58then you have
19:00some
19:01traditional
19:02kind of
19:02Chala Gaya
19:04Lahu
19:04so there's
19:06it's
19:06it's like a
19:07bouquet of
19:07flowers
19:08so
19:09aap
19:09suniyega
19:10maza
19:10lijeega
19:11Jaan Meri
19:12just one
19:15question
19:15came to
19:15my mind
19:16that
19:16music
19:17people
19:19or
19:19you know
19:20lot of music
19:20is composed
19:21keeping the
19:22real culture
19:22in mind
19:23keeping the
19:24real culture
19:25in mind
19:25the real culture
19:27of Instagram
19:31no I've never
19:32thought of the
19:32real
19:32I mean
19:34whenever I
19:34make a
19:35real I'll
19:35make a
19:35comedy out
19:36of it
19:37kuch
19:38aise
19:39maza
19:39karta
19:39hon
19:40you can't
19:41make music
19:42in reels
19:42here
19:44it's
19:45it's just
19:45a fascination
19:46you
19:47that's
19:48I don't
19:49anyway
19:50thank you
19:51thank you
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