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Joe DiBiase, Owen Parker, and Joe Cali discuss the MAJOR issues that Patriots QB Drake Maye has been having early in this NFL season, and wonder where things go for the young QB from here. The guys look at two different career arcs, former Dolphins QB Tua Tagovailoa and Bills QB Josh Allen, and ask which arc Maye is more likely to match.
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00:00Drake or that? That being Brock Purdy, NFL touchdown. Oh, my God. You got to go Drake,
00:06right? No. Because the ceiling is so much higher. The ceiling is higher. Brock Purdy is very,
00:13very good. There's no doubt about that. But I need a guy who can win me the Super Bowl. I
00:17don't know
00:18that Brock can. So, I mean, yeah, hooks and ladders are cute, but I can like. I'm sorry. Why
00:23could Drake win the Super Bowl, but Brock Purdy not win the Super Bowl? I think there's still
00:28more of an upside with Drake. I think we know what Brock is. But they both, yeah, what we
00:32know is he's very, very, very good. Next. All right. All right. Brock Purdy is a comparison
00:42for Drake May. Good morning. It's Jeremy and Joe. It's Patriots week. Sabres also in action
00:49twice before that game even takes place. By the way, speaking of Brock Purdy, did you see
00:54the pass that he made on Sunday leaping out of bounds and while he's in the air throwing
01:02it back inbounds to the tight end who slid and made the catch? He is Purdy. He's making
01:09a fan out of me. I'll say that. Yeah. I think there's going to be a legitimate MVP conversation
01:14for him if this keeps up. Right? I, yes, it's, I know it's tough with Shanahan. Let me ask
01:22this. Why shouldn't, because who are the top two play calling coaches in the league? Who
01:29does everybody recognize on that pedestal? McVay and Shanahan. McVay and Shanahan. All, every
01:34time that conversation comes up, those two are on the mountaintop. Why should Matthew Stafford
01:40be able to win the MVP and Brock Purdy shouldn't be able to? Exactly. Just because we saw Stafford
01:45do it before McVay and because he has cool arm angles and I'm not telling you he's not
01:50great. I love Matthew Stafford, but I'm, I'm watching Purdy run around and do jump passes
01:56and like he's doing stuff off structure way more than the former Niners quarterbacks did
02:01like Garoppolo. Yeah. And, and he's got half of his team is injured. Everybody's hurt.
02:07Right. That doesn't play a role here. I mean, he's got nobody that he was expecting to have
02:13coming into the year and he's making, you know, lemonade out of the lemons. Yeah. I think that
02:18deserves some praise and some, you know, this guy's valuable. I just wonder if he can ever
02:24be so good that he separates himself from, well, you're just the product of your head coach is that
02:30good. And I think his draft status also plays in this like Stafford, even though it was a long
02:35time ago, guy's a number one overall pick. Like we know there was a talent level there,
02:39like a great, great talent level. Purdy was the last pick of a draft. That's going to hurt him
02:45in terms of ever getting the amount of credit that it would take for him to be considered one
02:51of the best quarterbacks in football, even though any number you look at, although I'm actually stunned
02:57to look right now, I'm like go to NFL pro, like the first number I look at, like what's, what's,
03:02he's going to be number one, right? Completion percentage over expectation. He's actually
03:05second. I was not ready mentally for Gino Smith to be number one in the NFL. Gino's having a hot,
03:11hot week, hot year so far. But there he is. How about just total EPA? He's at plus 55 on
03:17the
03:17season, like almost lapping the field. Prescott's at plus 34. Allen is a plus 29. He's at 55 EPA per
03:25dropback. He's number one, like almost everything. That's except that one number where Gino's number
03:30one. He's been awesome. That was a comparison though to Drake May. And I want to get into
03:35him a little bit because, so the stat I saw yesterday about Drake May and what he's done
03:43so far in his career. He has played 33 games for the New England Patriots. And in those first
03:5033 games, 7,200 yards, 47 touchdowns, 24 interceptions, and an 18 and 15 record. I saw
03:57Underdog Fantasy tweet this out. That it was a comparison between May and Tua. And it's
04:03pretty close to the same. Tua, it's 7,300 yards, so within 100 yards of each other. Touchdowns
04:09is 48 compared to 47. INT's 20 compared to 24 and his record was 23 and 10. Now, my first
04:17thought when I saw that was, and I didn't even mean, I didn't even go to look. I'm sure
04:21that it's more. But how many of those Tua yards were yak yards and like passes at the
04:28line of scrimmage while May, like last year, was throwing the ball down the field more than
04:32anybody in football. So the way those yards come, I'm sure are vastly different. But I
04:41just don't think May is going to at all go down the same path that Tua went down. The Tua
04:48path was, I think, very predictable. And it's why we yelled about him so much and debated
04:53him so much. Oh, he's leading the league in passing. But, you know, remember when Bills
04:59fans and Dolphins fans would fight about his training camp highlights? Yes. Yes. Do you
05:02see this pass? Like, after he led the league in passing, look at this training camp pass.
05:07This guy can't throw the football. It's like a duck that goes 15 yards, like 12 yards short
05:11of the guy. There's no way this is going to last. And it didn't. And sure, injuries are
05:16a huge part of that for him. But not all of it. He was healthy last year when it started
05:23to go the wrong way. And now it's like it's over. Right? Like, maybe he gets back in at
05:29some point for Atlanta or somebody else. But, like, that's over. Tua is not going to be
05:33a starting level quarterback in football probably ever again. So there's that career arc. There's
05:42the Josh Allen career arc, which definite times last year where, like, is this guy going
05:47to be this good? The New England game here where he's stiff-arming Daquan Jones to the
05:56ground. That play is the play, right? Yes. That sticks out in your mind for him. To
06:01Josh play. That's what he can do. And that's a Josh play. Yes. Right? Like, you're a defensive
06:05lineman. You can't bring me to the ground. I'm going to get away from you and I'm going
06:09to make a play. And then I think it was the next play or was the play before where he
06:12rips
06:13a ball at 100 miles an hour to Diggs for the first down. And it being Diggs, by the way,
06:19also, like, there were Josh comparisons. Like, is he going to go down that career arc? And
06:24the last seven games wouldn't tell you that. No. Not at all. At all. Not at all. There's
06:28a middle ground, right? What's the right middle ground, though? I don't think he's going
06:32to be Allen. I don't think he's going to be Tua. But is he, are we seeing, oh, this is
06:41the, maybe this is the CJ Stroud career arc where you were unbelievable early on and then
06:48we're going to be left figuring out how come it hasn't looked like that since? Or is it
06:53just shoulders screwed up? Maybe the coordinator isn't doing all he's supposed to. Matt Collins
07:00is your number one receiver. And, oh, no, this is going to come back and you'll be one
07:04of the best quarterbacks in football again. What do you think is most likely? There was
07:08a report yesterday about the shoulder from the Patriots. Some, some reporter had it. I
07:13forget who that the Patriots are unsure why he's talking about his shoulder in that way
07:17because there's no issue with it. Did you see Vrabel talk about the throw in the end
07:23zone? Not, no, I saw some. I didn't see that. No, we're going to have to, I'll, we'll
07:28play that. We'll have to play it. It sounds like it's hot over there. It sounds like they're
07:34panicking. They are, like the Patriots are panicking about it. And it looks to me like
07:40he's panicking. I mean, Florio yesterday made a good point. Like he was talking about throwing
07:44an interception because there was blood on the football. Yeah. Right. Like, dude, right.
07:49It looks to me more than anything, like a guy that's lost the juice in his own head. He,
07:55he is scared to do stuff out there and he's, he's forcing stuff when he doesn't need to
08:02and he's hesitating when he shouldn't. It looks like a guy that mentally is not right. He's
08:09always, he's super talented. The play you're talking about against the bills where like
08:13he's got that in there, but there's something that there's something very, very off about
08:19it. And I don't know how you fix that or go about fixing that. I mean, like Vrabel's
08:25giving him hugs on the sideline. That's where they're at. Pep talks, right? Pep talks. He's
08:30tearing up. He's falling apart mentally on the sideline. It looks bad right now. Yes.
08:35It couldn't, I don't really think it could look worse compared to what it looked like
08:39before. Yeah. What else? What, what, what, what, how much worse could it be without him
08:44like, like being pulled out of games? Yeah. Then there's this cover six thing, by the way,
08:49that we've talked about here and there, like Sean McDermott kind of showed the league the
08:54right way to defend him. And after he did that, the rate at which new England saw cover six,
09:01like spiked. And it's kind of been since then that he hasn't been playing all that well.
09:06I heard Ben Solak on that yesterday though, say, I don't think that's a Drake may problem
09:12that that is a Josh McDaniels problem that you look at the route concepts and the play designs
09:18that they are using against that coverage. And it's making it impossible for me to succeed
09:25against it. Like basically cover six is like covering the weak side in new England's got no,
09:32they're going all of the strong side. Like it's just like a perfect mesh for coverage of what
09:37McDaniels is drawing up for me. So he, he might, I think get a deserved excuse on that one narrative
09:44that's out there about him. But I'm, I'm watching a lot of that game against Jacksonville last week.
09:50And yeah, the arm doesn't look right. He doesn't look confident in decisions. The players around him
09:56don't look that great. We'll talk more about the matchup specifically, but I just, you can't tell
10:02if it's Mac Jones or Drake may right now. I feel the same way I did a week ago, which
10:08is what would
10:10it take the bill for the bills to lose this game? And last week, the answer was six turnovers
10:15because five wasn't enough. Would six even been enough? Maybe not. Right. Maybe not. What is it?
10:21What is the number this week? Cause I just, two teams look so totally different this early on.
10:29When we come back quick minute on a huge story in sports, a team that is cheating
10:35and I think should go on the list. The Mount Rushmore of cheating teams in sports.
10:40That's next. Joe Marino coming up at seven on the bills. Your phone call soon at 803-0550 here on
10:45WGR.

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