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00:00What you need
00:52What up, my guy?
00:54Yo, if I didn't stop you, I was going to be a party the whole night
01:02That's what's up, that's what's up, my guy
01:04That's what I'm talking about
01:06For sure, for sure
01:08Yeah, man, and I was pumping a track with you
01:12That you did with Rusty Chooks
01:14I had him, like, four years ago
01:17Yeah, I did an interview with him
01:19Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah
01:21I seen that, I seen that interview
01:23Yeah
01:23For sure, for sure, for sure, man
01:26It's an honor to have you on Hip Hop Nation TV South Africa
01:30Welcome
01:30Yeah, thank you, my brother
01:32Thank you
01:33Appreciative, I'm appreciative, you heard?
01:36For sure, for sure
01:37Everything good?
01:38Everything good?
01:40I'm good, man
01:41Yeah, man, it's been a long time, but yeah
01:43Yeah, yeah
01:46How's everything your side?
01:48Everything good, man, you know
01:50Regular, regular, you know
01:52I just got off work
01:54So, you know, man
01:54I had to tap in
01:57For sure, for sure, for sure, man
01:59So, yeah, man
02:00Before we start, man
02:02Let's talk about your story
02:05Going back to the Bronx, right?
02:07And the Pac-Cham era
02:10What is it about those early days you remember?
02:16Oh, I just remember, like, getting, you know
02:21That first inkling of the culture
02:24You know what I mean?
02:25Like, the house parties
02:27The jams outside in the park
02:29When I was little, you know what I'm saying?
02:31For my brothers
02:32My uncles, you know what I mean?
02:34I could slide out with them
02:35So, I was able to see
02:38I was able to see it emerging
02:39You know what I'm saying?
02:40We were just
02:41It was something new
02:42And we were just happy
02:43You know what I mean?
02:45So, you know
02:46I got the real culture right
02:47Just like that
02:48And once I seen that
02:51I was in, you know what I mean?
02:53I was writing
02:53I wanted to be, you know what I mean?
02:55Just coming from the Bronx
02:57Like, it was really right in your face
02:59You know what I mean?
03:00So, those was good days, man
03:02You know what I mean?
03:03You got the DJ culture
03:05The MCN, you know what I mean?
03:07And then you see the greats
03:08That was before us
03:09So, we was able to build off that, man
03:12You know what I mean?
03:13But we loved that
03:14You know what I mean?
03:16For sure
03:17For sure
03:18For sure
03:18And because you come from the Bronx
03:22Do you feel like
03:25Being from the Bronx
03:26Comes with a responsibility
03:28When you're making
03:31Any song?
03:33Yeah, definitely
03:35It's a little different
03:36In the Bronx
03:37You know, like
03:37Hip-hop is all over the boroughs
03:39You know what I'm saying?
03:39All over the world
03:40But like
03:41When you, you know
03:42When you see your OGs
03:44OGs
03:45You know
03:46They like
03:46And they say
03:47You nice
03:48You gotta
03:49You know
03:50You gotta
03:51You gotta stand up
03:52You know what I mean?
03:53For that trophy
03:54Because
03:55They would chop your ass down
03:57You know what I mean?
03:58So
03:59You know
04:00You got to, man
04:02From they add
04:03And then you add a little
04:04New stuff on it
04:05You know what I'm saying?
04:06But you gotta keep the elements, man
04:08You gotta keep the elements
04:10Man, from the Bronx
04:10So
04:11We just gotta
04:12We respect our OGs
04:14OGs
04:14Who started this before us
04:16Who made us like it
04:18You know what I'm saying?
04:19So
04:19Yeah, man
04:20My man
04:21So that
04:21Definitely
04:22Yeah, yeah, yeah
04:24They put us to a certain point
04:25So
04:26Whoever they say is nice
04:28Alright
04:29We gotta keep the coaching
04:30And stand on it, man
04:33For sure
04:33For sure
04:34And I mean
04:35You mentioned
04:36With respect
04:38Did you
04:39Do you feel like
04:40We've
04:43Done enough
04:44In terms of
04:47Giving props
04:49To people
04:50Like who work
04:50And
04:52And
04:53And most of the others
04:57Well, I mean
04:58It's just age groups now
05:00You know what I'm saying?
05:01So the younger ones
05:03They don't
05:03You know
05:04They don't
05:05Like when we was young
05:08It was our duty
05:09To do our whole
05:10Homework
05:12And find out
05:13Who's this
05:15Who's this
05:16Who started this
05:17But it's different now
05:20For the new age
05:21Coming up
05:21Because
05:22It's so different
05:23Like they just
05:24Grew up in a different
05:26It just grew up
05:27In a different era, man
05:28You know what I mean?
05:30They know the music
05:31They know the music
05:31But they don't know
05:32The culture of the music
05:34You know what I mean?
05:35So
05:35It's a little different
05:37They
05:38They're not really
05:39Digging
05:39For the forefathers
05:41To see who's what
05:42How this became this
05:43How this evolved
05:44To this
05:45And to what they're doing
05:46They don't do that
05:47They just don't do it
05:48I don't know
05:49I don't
05:50They're not trying to be
05:51They're not trying to be
05:52Disrespectful
05:53They just
05:55Like
05:55This is a different era, man
05:57You know
05:58We grew up
05:58Doing something different
05:59We grew up
06:00Going to the record stores
06:02And looking for vinyl
06:04Yeah
06:04And kicking stuff off
06:06Now they just
06:07Go on the computer
06:08And put it in
06:09And it shows them
06:09So it's no work
06:11It's really no work
06:12So it's just
06:13It's like the smartphones
06:14We came up
06:15We ain't had no
06:16Fucking smartphones
06:17You know what I'm saying?
06:18So it's just different
06:19But
06:20The real culture knows
06:22But there's still some
06:23It's not all
06:24Of the new age
06:25A lot of them
06:26They know
06:26Because of people like me
06:28My uncles
06:29I'm his uncle
06:30You know
06:31They got brothers
06:31They got
06:32To teach them a little bit
06:34But
06:34Nah, it need to be more though
06:37Yeah
06:39Do you think maybe
06:40There needs to be like
06:42Maybe
06:43Maybe we as
06:44Media platforms
06:46We haven't made enough
06:49Efforts
06:49In how to
06:50Document
06:52The history of hip hop
06:53So that it becomes
06:54A bit
06:55Accessible
06:56To the younger
06:57Generation
06:58Right, right, right
07:00Well, I mean
07:00Like you said
07:01You said
07:02A great word
07:02Document
07:03You know what I'm saying?
07:05Like we have to do it
07:06We have to do it
07:07You see what I'm saying?
07:09No one else
07:09Is going to do it
07:10So
07:11Just like everybody
07:12Like going to YouTube
07:13And checking it out
07:14We got to document this
07:16And put this out
07:17So when we talk it
07:19Like why you don't know
07:20We can say
07:21Go ahead
07:22Look at that
07:23Just look at it
07:24And see
07:25You know what I mean?
07:26So we got to
07:26As you know
07:27We got to document it
07:29And don't let no one else
07:31Document it
07:32Who's not in the culture
07:33We got to document it
07:35Yeah
07:36And if
07:38In your experience
07:39Right
07:40If you look at
07:41Boom Bap
07:44Do you feel like
07:44It's still evolving?
07:46Or are we sometimes
07:48What worked in the 90s?
07:54Both
07:55Yeah
07:59Both
08:00Because
08:02I mean
08:04Boom Bap
08:05Boom Bap is what it is
08:06But
08:07Like with me
08:08You know
08:09My guy Vinnie Idol
08:10We do Boom Bap
08:11But we add a little sprinkles on it
08:13You know what I mean?
08:14To evolve it
08:16But we keep the
08:16You know
08:17We keep the core
08:18And there's a couple of people doing it
08:20But then there's a lot of people
08:22That's just
08:23Boom Bap
08:24You know what I'm saying?
08:25Like
08:25Bang it on the table shit
08:27And they want to keep it right there
08:30So
08:32We got both man
08:34You know what I'm saying?
08:35But
08:35We got to evolve the Boom Bap
08:37That's all
08:37A lot of us
08:38A lot of us is doing it
08:39But a lot
08:42Don't want to hear it
08:43They want to keep it
08:44This
08:44Boom Bap
08:45So
08:46Both
08:46You know what I'm saying?
08:47I like to evolve it
08:49I like to keep the
08:50The raw elements
08:51And just add the sprinkles on it
08:53You know what I mean?
08:54So
08:54We in now
08:56Like 2026
08:57You know what I mean?
08:58You can hear it
08:59Like it's a little different
09:00You know what I mean?
09:00So
09:01Yeah
09:01Both
09:02Both
09:03Both man
09:05For sure
09:06For sure
09:06And so tell me man
09:09Your name
09:10Tara Van Poo Poo
09:12It makes people very curious
09:16Where did that name come from?
09:20Well
09:22Poo
09:23It always been my nickname
09:25From a baby
09:26You know what I'm saying?
09:28So
09:28The terror
09:29You know
09:31I used to rhyme
09:31K-Terra
09:32K-Terra-boo
09:33K-Terra
09:34So
09:34Terror always been there
09:36Now the terror come from
09:37Not
09:38You know
09:39Killing nobody
09:40Or nothing like that
09:41It's just
09:42You know
09:43Lyrical wise
09:44Like terrorists
09:45You know
09:45Terror
09:46On a mic
09:47And then the van
09:47Comes from
09:48Van Gogh
09:49The artist
09:50Van Gogh
09:51Yeah
09:52So
09:52I took the van
09:54Because I'm creating
09:57Masterpieces
09:57So
09:58The terror
09:58Van
09:59Pool
10:00You know what I'm saying?
10:01So that's what it means
10:02So I'm killing them
10:03Lyrically
10:04But like
10:05Artists with it
10:06Artistry with it
10:07So Van Gogh
10:08I took the van
10:09Out to Teva Van
10:10Pool
10:10So that's why
10:11That's like that
10:12That's where that name
10:12Comes from
10:14Whoa
10:15Whoa
10:16That's very creative
10:17So tell me
10:19Like
10:19Because when I listen
10:21To your music
10:21You've got like
10:23The humor
10:24And then you have like
10:25The street
10:27Perspective
10:27The politics
10:29And also like
10:30Like
10:31The real hardcore
10:32Street of hip hop
10:33Right
10:33Throughout your work
10:35Is there like
10:36Is there a particular
10:37Side of terror
10:38Van Gogh
10:39That you feel like
10:40People haven't
10:41Distaffed yet?
10:45Yeah
10:46Yeah
10:47Because
10:49Like at the end
10:50Of the day
10:50Man I'm an artist
10:51You know what I'm saying?
10:53So
10:53There's other
10:54Type of music
10:55You know
10:56There's other levels
10:57I do
10:57But
10:58I know they won't
10:59Get it right now
11:00You know what I'm saying?
11:01But
11:02I like to do
11:03You know what I'm saying?
11:05So
11:05I just give them
11:06What they want to hear
11:07And shit
11:07Right now
11:08But
11:09I have a lot of
11:10Good songs man
11:11And I write
11:12You know
11:12I always write
11:13For a lot of people
11:13So
11:14It's different songs
11:16That I can do
11:16You would think
11:17You're like
11:18What the fuck
11:19Out of here?
11:19You're not doing that
11:20But I can
11:21I can do all types
11:22So
11:23There's a different level
11:24That I want
11:25I'm going to bring out
11:26I'm going to bring out
11:27You know what I'm saying?
11:28Because I'm an artist man
11:29An artist is an artist man
11:31You know what I mean?
11:32I'm not just confined
11:33To a rapper
11:34Or MC
11:35You know what I'm saying?
11:36I'm an artist man
11:36So
11:37I can do a lot
11:38So
11:38But I got something coming
11:39That's going to surprise
11:40A couple of people
11:41You know what I'm saying?
11:42Go to the left
11:43Going to the left
11:44You know what I'm saying?
11:46Yeah
11:47So
11:48So
11:48Are there any like
11:49Examples of those songs
11:51That you can mention
11:52And then
11:53What is the
11:56Inspiration
11:56Experience
11:57You have it?
11:58I mean
11:59I mean like
12:01Everything new
12:02Like
12:03Everything new
12:04Like
12:05I got
12:05I got my style to it
12:07I just put my style to it
12:09And it's dope
12:10So
12:10I haven't put none out
12:12You know what I'm saying?
12:13So everything new kids
12:14Is listening to
12:15And the style
12:16And the speed rap
12:17That's what I really started with
12:18But I haven't even done it
12:20In none of these albums
12:22I've done it
12:22You know what I'm saying?
12:23So
12:24That's what I plan to do man
12:26You know what I mean?
12:27So
12:27It's no
12:28It's nothing
12:29From
12:31Listen bro
12:32That's
12:33That's
12:33That's why I wanna
12:35I just wanna take a little time out
12:37And focus on
12:39You know what I mean?
12:39Now
12:42Cause I
12:43You get bored man
12:44So as an artist
12:44You gotta push yourself
12:46And you know
12:47And don't be scared
12:48You know what I'm saying?
12:48I ain't scared of shit
12:49So
12:50I'm
12:50But I know
12:52I gotta show
12:53Cause I got little
12:54Mises and nephews
12:56And cousins
12:57You know what I mean?
12:58And I know what they listen to
12:59So I'm gonna flip it
13:00And I'm like
13:01Oh shit
13:01I didn't know you could do that
13:03You know what I mean?
13:04So
13:06That's it
13:08For sure
13:09For sure
13:09So
13:10So
13:10Do you see yourself
13:12As a
13:14As a storyteller
13:16Or
13:16A little sister
13:17Of bad MC
13:18Or all of the above?
13:21Yeah
13:22A little mixture
13:22You know what I'm saying?
13:24A little
13:25A little mixture
13:25Cause I
13:26I've been doing this shit too long
13:28You know what I'm saying?
13:28I didn't get shit
13:29That wasn't popular
13:30That's popular now
13:31You know what I mean?
13:32So
13:33I'm
13:35Nah
13:35I'm not
13:36I'm not
13:37I'm not
13:38Narrowed down
13:39To one
13:40You know what I mean?
13:41I feel like
13:43I'm at a great level
13:45In each genre
13:47You know what I'm saying?
13:47Of what I do
13:48If it's a story
13:49Or if it's some
13:50You know politics
13:52Or if it's a
13:54Um
13:55Braggadocious
13:56You know what I'm saying?
13:57Just telling you how nice I am
13:59Or if it's a word plate
14:01A scheme thing
14:02Yeah
14:03I can do all that
14:04With no problem
14:07With no problem
14:08For sure
14:08For sure
14:10So
14:11So
14:11So I mean
14:12And I see like
14:13You've
14:14You've worked with
14:15A lot of
14:16Different MCs
14:18Right?
14:18So
14:19For those
14:21That want to work with
14:22Um
14:22Terev and Poo
14:24Um
14:25What is it that makes
14:26Somebody
14:27Someone that
14:28You like
14:28Want to collaborate with?
14:30Are there any aspects
14:31Of like
14:32Oh
14:33Yeah
14:33I mean
14:34Yeah
14:34I mean
14:34Um
14:35Like usually
14:36I want
14:37Somebody
14:37To be like
14:38Yo
14:38I want to do a collab
14:39I got a certain type of money
14:40You know what I mean?
14:41I'm not quick to be like
14:42Alright how much
14:43I ain't like that
14:44I'm like
14:45Alright
14:45I always say
14:46Yo
14:46Send me something
14:47Let me hear it
14:48You know what I mean?
14:49Yeah
14:49Like let me hear it
14:51I like
14:51I want to hear the artists
14:52You know what I mean?
14:54Because even though
14:54I might not know you
14:55Or they
14:56If we do a song
14:57I want to make the song dope
14:58You know what I mean?
14:59I just don't want to
15:00Write a verse
15:01And give it to you
15:02And
15:03You know
15:04Not care about it
15:05So I want to see your style
15:06Because sometimes
15:07I
15:07Um
15:09You know
15:09Sometimes I
15:10I switch up
15:11To make
15:12You know what I mean?
15:13To make it mesh
15:14With the other artists
15:16Who I'm dealing with
15:16You know what I mean?
15:18But um
15:18Yeah
15:19I'm just like
15:19I just like for you
15:20To be dope man
15:21You know what I mean?
15:23And don't really
15:23Not saying the same thing
15:25You know what I'm saying?
15:26I'm not like
15:27I'm not
15:29Doctoring your shit up
15:30I just want to hear
15:31Be like
15:31Oh alright
15:32I hear something
15:33He's dope
15:33I like how he put this together
15:35I like how he did that
15:36I just like their hair first
15:38And then you know
15:38It's no problem
15:40Whoa
15:41Whoa
15:41Because like
15:43In most situations
15:44I've seen like
15:45With artists like
15:48They're on a competitive style
15:50But with you
15:52Like
15:52You
15:53You wanna be like
15:56Creating a
15:57Synergy
15:58Right
15:59Yeah
16:00Like
16:01What inspires that?
16:05I mean
16:05Because
16:07Like if you wanna go
16:08Just bar for bar
16:09I do that shit
16:11In my sleep
16:12You know what I'm saying?
16:19Yeah
16:19We do
16:20You know what I'm saying?
16:21So
16:22I
16:22I have the
16:23That's my first goal
16:24Like oh
16:25Let's go
16:26You wanna bar up
16:27But at certain times
16:28I've been doing this so long
16:30I'm like
16:30I gotta chill sometimes
16:31Sometimes
16:32Yes
16:33But when I know
16:34You want some shit
16:35Yeah I'm barring you
16:36Out of here
16:37You know what I'm saying?
16:38So
16:38It's easy
16:40It's easy
16:41But um
16:41Yeah
16:41The synergy man
16:42See if
16:43If I'm listening to somebody
16:44And they nice already
16:46I'm not worried about it
16:47I know they gonna bring
16:48They pin game
16:49So now
16:50We gotta create
16:51The synergy
16:52You know what I'm saying?
16:54That's all
16:55But
16:56You know
16:56When you first get with somebody
16:57You like
16:58You can tell
16:59You know like
17:00I'm nice
17:01They be like
17:01I'm nice
17:02I'm gonna tell you
17:02I'll be like
17:02Oh you trying to tear
17:04Somebody up
17:05So
17:05Yeah
17:06I'm gonna bar you out
17:07You know
17:07We can go to that
17:09So that's number one
17:10That's emceeing
17:11That's just emceeing
17:12That's an emcee
17:13Not a rapper
17:15Yeah
17:16That's emcee shit
17:17Right there
17:18You know what I'm saying?
17:19So
17:19That's all
17:19That's all
17:21So
17:22So
17:22So
17:22So
17:23So
17:23So
17:24So
17:24So
17:24So
17:24So
17:24So
17:24So
17:24So
17:24So
17:24So
17:24So
17:24So
17:25People
17:25People still
17:26Confuse
17:27Uh
17:28The difference
17:28Between emceeing
17:29And
17:30And
17:30And
17:30And
17:30And
17:30Rapping
17:31Hell yeah
17:32They don't know the difference
17:34Yeah
17:36They just don't
17:37It's not
17:37They
17:37They just
17:38They don't know
17:39You know what I'm saying?
17:41Like
17:42The new breed of rappers
17:43Now
17:43They
17:44They not
17:45They're not
17:47They're just different
17:48They're not
17:51They're not trying to bar out
17:52You know what I'm saying?
17:54They not
17:54They don't come from that
17:56They come from
17:59My stories
18:00What happened to me
18:01You know what I mean?
18:02Like
18:02Actual shit that happened
18:03So they feel it
18:05So they don't have that really in them
18:07You know what I'm saying?
18:08They don't come from that
18:09They
18:10They
18:10They feel the shit
18:11You know what I'm saying?
18:12Like
18:12They really feel the shit
18:14Like I was
18:15And I was struggling
18:16And you know
18:17They come from that shit
18:18You know what I'm saying?
18:19Which it always was
18:21Hmm
18:22But in my generation
18:23We can do that
18:25This
18:25That
18:26That
18:27They just mainly
18:29Focus on one
18:30You know what I mean?
18:30So that's why they be feeling
18:32That's why y'all got more
18:33Dancing now
18:35Like when they rap
18:37You see they
18:38True
18:38They rhyme with the vocals on
18:41But they got
18:42They
18:43Cause they feeling that shit
18:44They
18:44You know what I'm saying?
18:46They like this
18:47They like this
18:48We like this
18:51We side to side
18:52They like
18:53You know what I mean?
18:55So it's just a different time
18:56In a different feel
18:57You know what I'm saying?
18:59Like
18:59I don't care about the style
19:00I always
19:01I always listen to the lyrics
19:03Whatever style you're doing
19:05Soak off
19:06That's drip
19:07Whatever you're doing
19:09I listen
19:10The lyrics is the lyrics man
19:11You know what I'm saying?
19:13True
19:13I listen to them
19:15It doesn't matter what style it is
19:17Even if it's a different language
19:19And you don't know
19:21I can
19:22You can tell by the flow
19:24Hmm
19:25See what I'm saying?
19:27Come on man
19:28It's that rap shit right here
19:31For sure
19:32For sure
19:32And so
19:34So
19:34So
19:35How does one
19:36How does one
19:38Um
19:39Maintain that versatility
19:41That you guys have
19:42I mean
19:43For the new generation
19:44That they want to
19:45To play
19:50Listen man
19:51They making so much money
19:52I don't think they care man
19:53But
19:53Oh
19:54I don't know
19:58I don't even know
19:59If they care man
20:00You know what I'm saying?
20:01They
20:02They
20:02You know
20:03Like I always tell a story
20:06I was in the studio
20:07Before
20:08You know
20:09Bunch of OGs
20:10You know what I mean?
20:11Couple of young ones in there
20:12And they was doing their shit
20:14And
20:15One of the OGs
20:18One of the OGs
20:19Was telling him
20:20Like yo man
20:20You know what I'm saying?
20:21You should do this
20:22You know
20:23And do that
20:23And the young boy said
20:25Yo OG
20:26Respectfully
20:27I'm booked all year
20:29OG
20:30He said
20:31I'm booked all year
20:35What you gonna say after that?
20:39You know
20:39He said
20:40You should do it like this
20:41You should do it
20:41And the young boy said
20:42Respectfully OG
20:43I hear you
20:45But
20:45Look at my dates
20:47I'm booked all year
20:49Yeah
20:50Yeah
20:51So
20:53Man
20:54You gotta let people be
20:56What they do man
20:57You know what I'm saying?
20:58And be creative with it
21:00And
21:01Don't be too tight with it
21:02You just
21:03You rep
21:04The culture
21:04Don't worry about nobody else
21:06Repping the culture
21:08But
21:08Do you not maybe think
21:09Because of
21:11In hip hop
21:12We've been taught to
21:14Have like an ego
21:16Of sorts
21:17Maybe
21:18That could have been
21:19The reason why
21:21Sometimes
21:24That gets in the way
21:25Within the culture
21:28Oh yeah
21:29Hell yeah
21:29That gets in the way
21:30You know what I'm saying?
21:31Because
21:31It's competitive
21:33This is a competitive sport
21:35Regardless of what
21:36I'm talking about
21:38Whatever style you're doing
21:40This shit is competitive
21:42You wanna be the best
21:43This is a
21:44This is an individual sport
21:46It's not a team sport
21:47You know what I'm saying?
21:49So you wanna be the best
21:50You're trying to take
21:51Somebody's head off
21:51You know what I'm saying?
21:52To show them that
21:54You're the best
21:55And then when you get
21:56Everybody to be like
21:57Yo he's nice
21:58Then they're tapping
22:00To your music
22:02Yeah
22:02Because
22:03You could throw something
22:05Out right now
22:06Right?
22:07Music out
22:07You know
22:08They don't get it
22:09They don't get it
22:10But then
22:12You give them
22:13Something they do like
22:15Yeah
22:16Then they'll go back
22:17In your catalog
22:18And then they'll
22:19They'll get you
22:20A little bit more
22:21You see what I'm saying?
22:23So
22:24You know what I mean?
22:25It's just what it is
22:27It's different
22:27It's different
22:28But
22:29This is a number one
22:30Competitive sport
22:31Bro
22:31But like you said
22:33You can't let it get
22:34In the way of the decisions
22:35Or some stuff
22:36You know what I mean?
22:37Because if you're nice
22:38That's when you become
22:39An artist
22:39You gotta remember
22:40You should be able
22:41To be at a certain level
22:42At whatever style
22:43You do man
22:44Be confident in
22:46But when you're
22:47First coming out
22:48Yeah you gotta be a killer
22:51Yeah
22:52You gotta
22:53Yeah
22:53You gotta take them
22:54That you
22:55You gotta
22:58And I always
22:59Like
22:59I mean like
23:02Cause
23:02Cause
23:03When I look at
23:04When I look at
23:05Talk to our music
23:07Like
23:09This is
23:10You've got
23:10You've got
23:11Wasti
23:11You've got
23:12Fennadette
23:13You've got
23:14You have
23:15The Wichon Prize
23:16You have
23:17Rock
23:18Like
23:20How are you guys
23:22Able to work
23:24With each other?
23:26And how are you guys
23:27Able to maintain that?
23:29Cause
23:29Cause
23:29Not
23:30Not many
23:31Record labels
23:33Of
23:33With
23:35Talented
23:36Artists like that
23:36Last that long
23:38Right
23:38Right
23:39Right
23:39No doubt
23:40You're right
23:40You just gotta
23:41Yeah man
23:42You gotta be confident
23:43You know what I'm saying
23:44And not worry about
23:45Everybody else
23:46Or because
23:47If you do
23:48You're gonna stop
23:48You're gonna get depressed
23:49You're gonna start
23:51Blaming people
23:51With shit
23:52Oh boy
23:53Yeah
23:54He don't like my shit
23:55He don't like my shit
23:57Listen man
23:59There's billions
24:00Of people out here
24:00Everybody should get
24:02Enough fan base
24:03For they self
24:03You see what I'm saying
24:04But
24:06That's what happens
24:07You lose focus
24:08Man
24:08You start blaming
24:09People
24:09With shit
24:11Why you ain't
24:12Why you ain't
24:12Buy my shit
24:13You my man
24:14For 20
24:15Why you ain't
24:15Buy my
24:15You start getting
24:16Into that
24:17And it messes up
24:18Your creativity
24:19Process
24:20You see what I'm saying
24:21So you just gotta
24:22Keep going man
24:23And
24:24Like you said
24:25To the MCs
24:26Like
24:27Real MCs
24:27We respect
24:28Of his talent
24:29You know what I mean
24:30So when we hear
24:31Something
24:31We're like
24:32Yo let's do something
24:32They be like
24:33Yo let's do something
24:34Yo man
24:35Let's link up
24:36It's genuine
24:36It becomes genuine
24:38Like you know what I mean
24:39But you gotta
24:40You gotta have
24:41Your ego down
24:42Just a little bit
24:43So you can realize
24:45There's other people
24:46That's dope out here
24:47You know what I'm saying
24:49True
24:50It's not always
24:51A competition
24:52With everybody
24:53God damn
24:54You know what I mean
24:55So
24:56That's all
24:58But why
24:59Why do
25:00Some MCs
25:01Feel like
25:04It's
25:05It's
25:05Difficult
25:06To learn
25:06From another
25:07MC
25:09Ego
25:09Ego
25:13I'm the
25:14I'm the nicest
25:15On here man
25:15Nobody
25:16Fucking with me
25:17The next one
25:18Ain't nobody
25:19Fucking with me
25:20Nice
25:21Nobody
25:21Fucking
25:22The next one
25:23Same shit
25:24Same shit
25:25Same shit
25:26And you be
25:27Whack
25:31So
25:31Everyone's nice
25:32Everybody nice
25:34No one can be
25:36Whack
25:37Until somebody
25:38Tell you
25:39That shit is
25:39Whack
25:40You know what I'm saying
25:41You're not nice
25:42But that's the problem
25:43The ego man
25:44That's all
25:45The ego
25:46The ego
25:47The ego
25:48Will mess you up
25:48In this game man
25:50You need it
25:51You gotta have
25:52The ego
25:53But you gotta know
25:53When to turn it off
25:56True
25:57And do you think
25:58There are any
25:59Formulas
25:59To handle
26:01How
26:03People
26:03Saying to you
26:04I'm not
26:05That's whack
26:07Or is it
26:07Something
26:08That I do
26:11What
26:12Did somebody
26:12Tell me
26:13Like my shit
26:14Was whack
26:14You saying
26:15Yeah
26:16Like I'm saying
26:16Like
26:17Have you ever
26:17Been in a situation
26:18Where someone
26:19Was saying
26:20You're not
26:20And then
26:21Do you think
26:22How to handle that
26:25Like in your experience
26:27Yeah
26:28Everybody don't like
26:29My shit
26:30You know what I'm saying
26:32Everybody ain't
26:33Gonna like your shit
26:34And let me tell you
26:35Why
26:35It's not
26:36Because it's whack
26:38It's because
26:39Him over there
26:42He like
26:43Lyrical shit
26:45So nothing
26:46Nothing else
26:46You can play
26:47If it ain't
26:48Lyrical
26:48He's not
26:48Gonna like it
26:49This one
26:50He like
26:51That street
26:52Talk shit
26:56Don't like
26:57Nothing else
26:58This one
26:59Like party
27:00Shit
27:02See what I'm saying
27:03So you got
27:04This one
27:05Like political
27:05Shit
27:06Yeah
27:07This one
27:07Like
27:08I want to
27:09Hit a hard
27:10Hard times
27:11That struggle
27:12You see
27:12What I'm saying
27:13So everybody
27:14Got their shit
27:15They like
27:15So you'll play
27:16Something
27:17Ah that shit
27:17Whack
27:20Because
27:21It's not
27:21What they
27:22Want to listen
27:23To
27:23You know
27:23What I'm saying
27:23Now me
27:25And there's a lot
27:25Of other people
27:26It doesn't matter
27:27What you play me
27:28It could be a style
27:29I don't like
27:29But I can tell
27:30Like all this
27:31Is dope
27:35See what I'm saying
27:36I can tell
27:37I don't like
27:38That style
27:39But I'll listen
27:40To like I said
27:42Look
27:42I'll be like
27:42Yo he's dope
27:44He can write
27:46But he's just
27:46Writing about that
27:47You know what I'm saying
27:48But yeah
27:49If I had people
27:50That tell me
27:51I don't like
27:51This shit
27:54You know what I mean
27:57I learned
27:58I learned
27:59How to deal
27:59With that
28:00A little better
28:01Now
28:02Because before
28:03I'll just
28:03Come outside
28:04Smack the shit out
28:05She's been telling me
28:06My shit is whack
28:07You know what I mean
28:10But uh
28:13Now I'll be like
28:14Yeah alright
28:14You know what I'm saying
28:15And then you got people
28:16That's gonna say
28:17Your shit is whack
28:18Just because you're moving
28:19Just because you're moving
28:21You know what I'm saying
28:22Like
28:23You got haters
28:25I'm quite sure
28:26You got some haters
28:28Yeah
28:29Yeah
28:30Yeah
28:32When you're doing
28:33Something right
28:34That's when you get
28:34Haters man
28:36Yeah
28:36Remember that
28:37Remember that
28:38But you know
28:39What I find challenging
28:41Um
28:42Is
28:43How do I know
28:45If it's
28:45How do I know
28:47If it's constructive
28:48Criticism
28:48Or
28:50If it's
28:51Constructive
28:53Do you think it's easier
28:54Because
28:54When
28:55When it's
28:56Constructive
28:57Criticism
28:57Yeah
28:59It's a way
28:59It's a way
29:00It's being said
29:05See what I'm saying
29:06That's a way
29:07Now
29:07If I say to you
29:09Yeah I seen your
29:10Interviews man
29:10Like you know
29:11You're doing
29:11I like
29:12You know what I'm saying
29:13I think if you just
29:14Add this
29:15You know what I mean
29:16Try this
29:17Add this
29:18You know what I mean
29:19And just see if it works
29:21But I see
29:21Your shit is dope
29:22You got that
29:23All I can say
29:24Yeah I seen
29:25I seen your shit man
29:26Sorry
29:31From those two examples
29:33I gave you
29:33You knew what was
29:35Constructive criticism
29:36And you know
29:37I was just
29:38Hating all
29:38Yeah
29:39You're shit
29:40I'm sorry
29:40Sorry
29:42Yeah
29:42You're shit
29:44I'm sorry
29:44Sorry
29:46Yeah
29:47See
29:48So that's the difference
29:49Man
29:50Whoa
29:51Whoa
29:51So
29:52So how was it like
29:53When you
29:53When you started
29:54Trifetta
29:55Your first album
29:58Oh yeah
29:59Trifecta
29:59I think that was
30:00My second one
30:01The first one
30:01Was Pulitzer
30:02But
30:03Yeah
30:04But
30:05There's one called
30:06Pulitzer
30:06That was my
30:07That was the first one
30:08With me and Vinnie Ivey
30:09But
30:10Yeah
30:10The Trifecta
30:12That was with me
30:12And my boy
30:13Innocent
30:14My boy
30:15Innocent
30:15I had
30:16Roy Flush on there
30:17Who else I had
30:18I had a couple
30:19Of other people on there
30:20So
30:20That was a dope
30:21That was dope
30:22That was dope
30:23That was the second album
30:25And
30:26Innocent is dope
30:26That's my guy
30:27So I said
30:28Yo
30:29Come on man
30:29I would just
30:29I like to do different stuff
30:31So you won't get bored with it
30:33You know what I mean
30:33Yeah
30:34So that was the shit
30:35With me and him
30:36And
30:37I had fun with that
30:38Yeah
30:39You know
30:39We had fun with that
30:40We had fun with that
30:41So my mission was just
30:44Keep pushing on albums
30:45And videos
30:46That at that time
30:47I was just like
30:48I was just coming out of nowhere
30:50It's like
30:50Who the fuck is he
30:53But
30:54Trifecta was
30:55Trifecta was dope
30:56Man
30:56Trifecta
30:57I had fun
30:57I had fun on most of the albums
30:59Man
31:00Making it
31:01You know what I'm saying
31:02For sure
31:02Yeah
31:03And
31:03How did you meet with
31:05Vini
31:05Because you guys
31:07The combination
31:08Like
31:09Is very strong
31:11Oh yeah
31:12Me
31:12Well we both from the Bronx
31:15We both from the same neighborhood
31:17We both from the same hood
31:19So
31:21You know
31:21That was an easy one
31:23You know what I mean
31:24He was doing other stuff
31:26He was doing D block stuff
31:27You know what I mean
31:29And I was rolling with Diamond D
31:31Doing other stuff
31:32But we was all in the same hood
31:33Together
31:34We was all friends
31:35Everybody was
31:36So
31:37You know
31:38Once I
31:40I chilled for a minute
31:43And then I was like
31:44Yo
31:44Because I wanted
31:45I wanted to change
31:46With the times
31:47You know what I'm saying
31:48So I just wanted to change my name
31:51I wanted to change the sound
31:52I know what I wanted
31:53So
31:54We talked about it
31:56The sound we wanted
31:58We wanted to keep the boom back
31:59Like I always say
32:01We wanted to add some new elements on it
32:03Would sound different
32:05And that's what I wanted to do
32:07And he was like
32:07Yo let's go
32:08So
32:11We were just having fun
32:12Because we've been friends
32:14From over 30
32:14You know what I'm saying
32:15So we good
32:17You know what I mean
32:17So it just mesh well
32:19Like we mesh well man
32:21We know what we want
32:22It's all fun
32:23It don't feel like work
32:24So it's all good man
32:26You know what I mean
32:27And he's super dope
32:28You know what I mean
32:31And he know me
32:32He believes in me
32:33And
32:35We've been going ever since man
32:37So our chemistry is like
32:39You can't fuck with the chemistry
32:40You know what I mean
32:41It's there
32:44Whoa
32:45Whoa
32:45And speaking also
32:47Of like chemistry
32:48Because even when you're
32:50Your collaboration
32:51With Benedict
32:53That's also amazing
32:55Oh yeah
32:56Oh yeah
32:59So you know
33:00We link up
33:01And I knew she was dope
33:03But she wasn't rhyming
33:04But I knew
33:05You know what I mean
33:06She was dope
33:07You know what I mean
33:08She used to rap for me
33:10And it was a void
33:12In the rap game
33:13So
33:14We was like
33:15There's no male
33:16Female duo
33:19Yeah
33:20You know what I'm saying
33:21So I was like
33:23Fuck it
33:23Let's go
33:24And I knew
33:25And I knew she was
33:26Going to shock people
33:26Because
33:27They never heard her
33:28You know what I'm saying
33:30So
33:31So our chemistry
33:32Is easy too
33:33You know what I mean
33:35Our chemistry
33:36Is easy too man
33:37So it's like
33:38It's just been a blessing man
33:39You know
33:40When you can just do music
33:41And you just have
33:42Actually fun with it
33:45With no stream
33:47No bullshit
33:48And we just have fun with it
33:49Just like me and Vin
33:50You know what I mean
33:51So once the music
33:52Comes as easy
33:53You just catch the vibe
33:54And we writing
33:55What we writing
33:56What we writing
33:56So you know
33:59Bernadette
33:59Me and my boy
34:00Lena Kane
34:01You know what I mean
34:02So
34:03You know
34:04The same
34:05The same thing man
34:06It's just you know
34:07Ping pong it off
34:08Each other man
34:09And you just
34:10Just dope in the studio
34:11You just having fun
34:12And you're not
34:13You're not worrying about
34:14No regular life shit
34:16That's that time
34:17When you just create
34:18And have fun man
34:19And then you know
34:20When you got a partner
34:21That is just
34:23You just have fun
34:25It's easy
34:27Whoa
34:27Whoa
34:28Whoa
34:29And so first of all
34:31Why do you like
34:32Uh
34:32Terror
34:33Van Rigg
34:34Right
34:35Okay
34:36That one was like
34:36A very
34:38Interesting project
34:39So
34:40What was it like
34:41That made you
34:42Want to build
34:43An entire
34:45Hip-hop project
34:46On that
34:48Um
34:48Yeah
34:49The Van Wick album
34:50Um
34:52That was like
34:53Off the movie
34:54You know what I'm saying
34:55I wanted to be
34:56A little more edgy
34:57You see what I'm saying
34:58I wanted to be
34:59More edgy
35:00A little mean
35:01A little grainy
35:02A little different
35:03Because I'm always
35:04Going to be lyrical
35:05And I'm always
35:06Going to be like
35:07You know
35:08Braggadocious
35:08And a couple of songs
35:10I keep a song on here
35:11And then
35:12But that was
35:13I wanted to be like
35:14Yeah okay
35:15Like
35:15Alright let's go
35:16You know real grimy
35:17Like stink face
35:18So you're in the car
35:19You're just
35:20Like stink face
35:21The beats
35:22The lyrics
35:23So
35:23That Van Wick
35:24Was like
35:25Alright we knew
35:25What we was going to do
35:26We knew what we was going to do
35:27On it
35:27Just like the movie
35:28Just like different scenes
35:30You know what I mean
35:30Like of the songs
35:32It was just like
35:32Different scenes man
35:33So
35:34That's how we did that
35:35Because I always liked
35:37To keep that
35:38Yeah
35:39Yeah
35:40So
35:41So are there particular
35:41Scenes that you like
35:43Of Johnny
35:44That
35:44That
35:45Um
35:46You
35:47You relate to
35:48What describes you
35:49In the end
35:53That whole terror shit
35:54That
35:56Yeah
35:58Beats man
35:58You know what I'm saying
35:59On my name
36:00So that Van Wick
36:02When I seen the Van Wick
36:03I'm like
36:03God damn
36:04He killing everybody
36:05In this shit
36:06He fighting like
36:07400 motherfuckers
36:08A scene
36:08You know what I'm saying
36:09So I was like
36:10This shit was just
36:11Action
36:11Forward
36:12Forward motion
36:13Forward motion
36:14So
36:15That's how we did the album
36:16You know what I'm saying
36:17Each scene was like
36:19Yeah
36:19That whole movie is me
36:21Man
36:23Without going to jail
36:24Without going to jail
36:26You know what I'm saying
36:27He was
36:27He's killing the wall
36:29Yeah
36:31Yeah
36:31Yeah
36:33Right
36:34Right
36:34Right
36:36Nah
36:36But that
36:37That Van Wick
36:38That's what that was about
36:39That was definitely Van Wick
36:40I was like
36:41Alright
36:41We're going dirty with this
36:42This is street scenes all day
36:45So
36:45That's how I got that
36:49And then you got
36:50My fifth degree
36:52So
36:53So
36:53So
36:53What were you trying to say
36:54With that
36:55Well
36:56The fifth degree was
36:58That was more the crew
37:00That was me
37:02Bernadette
37:02Yeah
37:03My girl Kamari
37:05Yeah
37:06Lena Kane
37:07And tons
37:08You know what I mean
37:09That's the crew
37:10You see on my album
37:11That's the same ones
37:12That's on my album
37:13You know what I mean
37:13So
37:14That was like a crew joint
37:16We was putting together
37:17For
37:18A bigger event
37:19Later on
37:20That's coming
37:20So everyone's got
37:22They solos and stuff
37:23Coming out
37:24So you'll hear more
37:25But I just wanted to
37:26Give a sample
37:27A quick
37:28You know
37:28Like an EP
37:29Uh
37:30The fifth degree
37:31With five of us
37:32To show you
37:32You know
37:33What will be coming
37:34And to look out for
37:36Stuff like that
37:36So that's what that was
37:38That was like
37:39Oh
37:40That was like a teaser
37:42So are we gonna
37:43Are we gonna have
37:44More
37:45More
37:46Anything coming out
37:47This year
37:47Oh yeah
37:48Yeah
37:48Oh yeah
37:49Yeah
37:50Definitely
37:50I just gotta
37:51Release
37:51You know
37:52My man Lena Kane
37:54He released
37:55You gotta check
37:55Sample Gang
37:56He got a series of
37:57Called Sample Gang
37:59Sample Gang
38:00Five
38:00Sample Gang
38:00Four
38:01So
38:02He got stuff
38:03My man Tons
38:04Is coming out
38:06My man Tons
38:07Is coming out
38:08With some
38:08With a project
38:10And Kamari
38:11Also
38:12Me and Kamari
38:12Is doing some
38:13And then you know
38:14Vernon Deck
38:14Got her two albums
38:15Out
38:16You know what I mean
38:16I got my albums
38:18Out
38:18So you know
38:19Yeah
38:19You're gonna see a lot
38:20But you're gonna see
38:21A couple more collabos
38:22Coming with the videos
38:23They already done
38:24Just drop it
38:26It's time
38:26When to drop it
38:27Yeah
38:29And I see
38:31You released
38:32Van Putin
38:33Right now
38:36What about that
38:38Did you feel like
38:40Did you feel like
38:41It was a big
38:42Controversial
38:43Because like
38:44You're in the US
38:46And you
38:47Needed up
38:48A Russian president
38:51Right
38:51Yeah
38:52And
38:53And a couple of years ago
38:54When it really started
38:55You know
38:56With Putin
38:58I had that album
39:00That I was using
39:01That name
39:02And I was like
39:03Oh
39:03I can't do this shit
39:05Right now
39:06I can't use
39:08I said
39:08Oh hell no
39:10They're gonna look
39:10At me crazy
39:11I said
39:12I can't do
39:13Van Putin
39:13Then so
39:14It's been a couple years
39:15So I said
39:16Now I'm gonna use
39:17That title
39:18You know what I'm saying
39:18On the new shit
39:20On the Van Putin
39:21So
39:22It was more
39:23I like to
39:25With my album
39:27I like to
39:28You know
39:28Play off my name
39:30You know what I'm saying
39:32The Pulitzer
39:34Van Putin
39:34You know
39:35Van Wick
39:36You know what I'm saying
39:37All of them
39:38I like
39:38I play off my name
39:39With it
39:40So
39:41That's all that was
39:43But the
39:43Van Putin
39:44Yeah right now
39:45Was dope
39:47It was another
39:48Like
39:48You know
39:49It was like a funny
39:50But it was like
39:51It was
39:52It was more street
39:53Cause you know
39:53I like
39:54I like to put out
39:55A lot of good songs
39:56I usually keep
39:57A good song
39:58Like a song song
39:59On each album
40:01Yeah
40:02You know what I'm saying
40:03That just fuck you up
40:04Like
40:04What the fuck is that song
40:05Doing on here
40:06You know what I'm saying
40:07So
40:08I like doing that
40:09But that
40:09The Van Putin
40:10Is you know
40:11It's a tough album
40:12You know what I mean
40:13It's tough
40:14And you're always gonna get
40:15Lyrics from me
40:16Man
40:17You know what I mean
40:18Lyrics
40:18Dope
40:19Choruses
40:20Something you could
40:21You know what I mean
40:21It might be something
40:22You don't like
40:23But after a while
40:23You be like
40:24Yo this shit is kinda dope
40:25You know it might not
40:26So
40:27The Van Putin
40:28Was sorta like
40:29Of
40:30It was sorta
40:31In the same realms
40:32As the Van Wick
40:34Like
40:34You know what I mean
40:35A little bit like
40:36Alright we going edgy
40:38We going edgy
40:39The Van Putin
40:41You know what it is
40:41Like I don't care
40:42You know what I'm saying
40:44The blue was like
40:45I don't care
40:46You know what I'm saying
40:47So
40:47That's what that was
40:48Always
40:49Always keep it hip hop
40:50With just a little twist
40:52On it man
40:52You know
40:53Yeah
40:55Cause I also saw that
40:56With
40:57The track
40:59Dictator
41:00Yo
41:01Yeah
41:02The Dictator
41:03And then
41:04That's the intro
41:05You know what I mean
41:06Like
41:07Pullman
41:07I'm a dictator
41:08And I'm just telling you shit
41:10You know what I mean
41:11So that
41:11That shit was just going
41:12Like
41:14Yeah
41:14So that's how I wanted
41:16To set the album
41:17To be like
41:17Oh okay
41:18I get it now
41:19Van Pullman
41:20Start the first song
41:21As the dictator
41:22You know what I'm saying
41:23So you get it
41:25Yeah
41:26And I mean
41:27And I see like you
41:27You've done like
41:28A lot of music videos
41:30Like
41:31Like how do you
41:33How do you have that energy
41:34Wow
41:37I still love it man
41:38You know what I mean
41:40So
41:40If I'm doing it
41:41You as an OG
41:43Yeah
41:44I gotta go full steam
41:45You know what I mean
41:46And
41:47Yeah
41:47I'm like
41:48Yeah
41:48Yeah
41:48Yeah
41:49Why you tired
41:50You know what I'm saying
41:51I'm older than you
41:52Why you tired
41:52You shouldn't be tired
41:54I'm killing shit like this
41:56Why you tired
41:57You know what I'm saying
41:58So
41:59Yeah
42:00I go crazy with the videos
42:02Because I believe
42:04I believe
42:05I can play you a song
42:06Right
42:06I might can play you a song
42:08And you're listening to it
42:10You know
42:10Okay
42:11Okay
42:12You know
42:13You're not
42:13You know
42:14But you're like
42:15Okay
42:15And then I play you the video
42:19You're like
42:19Oh
42:20I like this shit
42:21Oh
42:22Now I get it
42:23Or
42:24It can be vice versa
42:25I can show you the video
42:27And you're like
42:27And then I play you the song
42:30You're like
42:31Yo
42:31This is the same song
42:32Because now you got a visual
42:34Or something
42:35Yeah
42:36And you have people
42:38Who listen to music
42:40All the time
42:40Then you got people
42:42Who don't
42:42But they look at videos
42:43All the time
42:44Yeah
42:46So it gives me
42:48Two chances
42:49To get that song
42:50Across to you
42:52Yeah
42:54Because you might not like it
42:55Then you see this
42:56And you like it
42:57You know what I mean
42:57So
42:58But I believe now
43:00And everywhere
43:01And it's a visual world now
43:03You see what I'm saying
43:04Yeah
43:04You want to see shit
43:05Because there's too much
43:06God damn songs
43:07Coming out every day
43:09Yeah
43:12You got like
43:13500,000 songs
43:14That's coming out
43:15Every day
43:16There's no way
43:17You can keep up
43:19Good songs
43:20And bullshit songs too
43:22So
43:23You gotta have a visual
43:25Out there man
43:26You know what I'm saying
43:27Yeah
43:28That's how I feel
43:29That's how I feel
43:30That's why I go so hard
43:31With the visuals
43:33Whoa
43:34Whoa
43:35That's all
43:36Even
43:37Even your song
43:38With Bennett
43:39Is it the one
43:42Over 50
43:43Or something like that
43:44Yeah
43:45Feel good
43:45Feel good over 50
43:46Yeah
43:48Yeah
43:48Yeah
43:52Looking at
43:55Everything that you guys
43:57From the beginning
43:58To now
44:01What is it that
44:02You guys are most grateful about
44:07What do I feel
44:08Most grateful about
44:09Yeah
44:12With my stuff
44:13Or me and
44:14Bernadette's stuff
44:16Two
44:17Oh
44:18Or actually
44:19Even within the family
44:21Of Tata
44:22Oh okay
44:28Honestly about my stuff
44:30And you know
44:30Everybody else stuff
44:31Is
44:33The way that
44:36We're able to put out music
44:39At now
44:41Continuous
44:42And consistently
44:43At a
44:44At a high level
44:45That's what I'm
44:46You know what I mean
44:47Because
44:49Yeah
44:50Because I'm very
44:52Technical
44:52On stuff
44:53Like
44:54I don't like
44:55I don't like
44:56Sounded dated
44:57You know what I mean
44:58If you hear my music
45:00I don't have a lot of stuff
45:01That you wouldn't know
45:02When I wrote the rhyme
45:04Yep
45:05You know what I mean
45:06Because I'm not
45:07If you
45:08Like you can't
45:09Go to my rhymes
45:10And be like
45:11Oh I remember
45:13When this happened
45:13That's when the
45:14You can't
45:15You don't know
45:17When I wrote that shit
45:19You know what I mean
45:20So that's how
45:20I like to keep it
45:21I like to keep it
45:22Like that
45:25But
45:25I've been very happy
45:26For my stuff
45:28And my cool stuff
45:29At the clip
45:30That we're putting
45:31Out stuff
45:32And the level
45:33That we're putting
45:34It out at
45:35And you know
45:37Yeah that
45:38That level
45:38And we still love it
45:40You know what I mean
45:40That we're going hard
45:41We're still going hard
45:42With it
45:43You know what I mean
45:43So
45:44It's just showing by example
45:46That's all
45:46It's just showing by example
45:47You know what I'm saying
45:48Somebody coming
45:49Like you're OG OG
45:51I'll be like
45:51Yeah alright
45:54We're like
45:54Yeah alright
45:55You know what I'm saying
45:57You know
45:58I laugh at a lot of shit
45:59You know what I mean
46:00But
46:00But
46:01But
46:01But my best compliments
46:03Is when it comes from
46:04The younger generation
46:05They be like
46:06Yo OG OG
46:07Be spitting
46:08You be spitting OG
46:09You be talking
46:10You know what I mean
46:10So
46:11If I can get that
46:12I'm good
46:13You know what I mean
46:15Whoa
46:15And
46:16Do you feel like
46:20If you were to
46:23Meet
46:23The young
46:24Teravan pool
46:27Would you have
46:28Something to say to him
46:32Yeah
46:33The younger
46:33Teravan pool
46:34Yeah
46:36Hmm
46:37What would I tell
46:39The younger
46:39Teravan pool
46:40Yeah
46:41They curb
46:43The ego
46:44A little bit
46:48Cause I was
46:49I was ready
46:49To take
46:50Everybody
46:54I didn't see
46:55A lot of shit
46:55Because of my ego
46:57You know
46:57I was always
46:58On tour
46:58You know
46:59So I've seen
47:00A lot of different stuff
47:01When I was younger
47:02Before I got it
47:03You know what I mean
47:03But yeah
47:05I was just like
47:06I'm better than him
47:06I'm nicer than him
47:07I'm nicer than him
47:08And it was like
47:10Get to
47:11Get to know somebody first
47:12You know what I'm saying
47:13Stop going at
47:14Everybody
47:15Yeah that's all
47:16That's all
47:17Because I always
47:18Had a drive for it
47:19You know what I mean
47:19So that's the only thing
47:20I would tell a younger
47:21Teravan pool
47:23He's up
47:23Chill out a little bit
47:24Just chill out
47:25Just chill out a little bit
47:26That's it
47:27Cause I always had the drive
47:29I still got the drive now
47:30So that's self-explanatory
47:31You know what I'm saying
47:34Wow
47:34Wow
47:35And you know
47:36You know
47:37I'm hoping that
47:38One day you guys
47:39Would like
47:39Actually do a documentary
47:41Like
47:41Cause
47:43What you guys
47:45Do at
47:45Backdown music
47:47I mean
47:48Like
47:50When I
47:51When I think about you guys
47:54Nathan Wilson
47:57Yo
47:57Sean Price
48:08I don't even have words
48:11To explain it
48:12Cause I mean
48:13It's very few
48:14Few
48:15Few labels
48:16That
48:17That last
48:18Like that
48:18Right
48:20I think
48:20And I think
48:21And I think
48:22Like
48:22The younger generation
48:23Could learn from that
48:25Definitely
48:26That
48:27Like I said
48:28Right
48:28When we started
48:29Talking about
48:30We have to document
48:32Yeah
48:33You know what I mean
48:34And at times
48:35We're in now
48:36If there's no
48:37Document
48:38You know
48:38Documentation
48:39Or anything
48:39It didn't happen
48:42True
48:46So we gotta
48:47Document it
48:48You know what I'm saying
48:48You gotta
48:49Document your shit
48:50You know what I'm saying
48:56You know what I mean
48:57But
48:57But
48:57Yeah
48:58It's definitely
48:59But
48:59We definitely
49:00Gonna do a documentary
49:01Now
49:02Because I've had
49:02And my old crew
49:04Was called
49:05Fort Docs
49:06You know what I mean
49:06And
49:08When he's coming up
49:09And we did a doc
49:10I'll send it
49:11I'll send it to you
49:11I'll send you the doc
49:13And we did one before
49:14Long time
49:15Yeah
49:16That's what it is
49:17So it's now
49:18It'll do a new one
49:19And it'll be dope
49:21And link it up
49:22So
49:22Definitely
49:25Oh man
49:26I can't wait
49:26Definitely
49:27I honestly can't wait
49:28So
49:28So
49:30Are there
49:31Any events
49:32Coming up
49:34That
49:34Maybe people
49:35Should look at
49:38What have we got
49:39A bunch
49:39Yeah
49:40It's a lot of shows
49:41Coming in and out
49:42You know what I mean
49:43So
49:44You know
49:45We just had a bunch
49:46Of shows
49:46Me and Bernadette
49:48And
49:49Dang
49:49I think it's one
49:50Coming up
49:53I don't know
49:54What's going on
49:54With it
49:55But we're supposed
49:55To do one
49:56Sunday
49:57Coming up
49:58Sunday
50:00Yeah
50:00Yeah
50:02Supposed to be
50:03Yeah
50:03This Sunday
50:03Coming up
50:09Supposed to open up
50:10With Max B
50:10And shit like that
50:11So
50:12I mean
50:13I'm burning
50:13Dead
50:13So
50:14You know
50:14We'll see what it do
50:16But we always
50:17Killing shows
50:18We always
50:19Killing shows
50:19You know what I'm saying
50:23But
50:24Yeah
50:24That
50:24That
50:25And new music
50:26And new music
50:27Dropping
50:28You know what I mean
50:28I'm always dropping
50:29The new music
50:30So
50:30Probably be dropping
50:31Some
50:31Another single
50:32This week
50:33And
50:35Yeah
50:35More videos
50:36From the new album
50:37Just dropping
50:38Also
50:38You know what I mean
50:40So I just
50:40Just dropped
50:41Just dropped
50:42The drink
50:43With my man
50:43Afro
50:44And
50:47I got a bunch
50:48Of collab shit
50:50Coming up
50:50You know what I mean
50:51A long way
50:54My pet
50:55I saw your track
50:56With him
50:57With the wordplay
50:58With the wordplay one
51:00Right
51:00Right
51:01Right
51:01Right
51:01Right
51:03How is that like
51:04I mean
51:05You're from a different generation
51:07And he's from a new generation
51:09Right
51:10Right
51:10Right
51:11That's what I'm saying
51:12That's why it's dope
51:13And he spit
51:14And he respected me
51:15You know what I'm saying
51:16Like me and Afro
51:17Got another joint
51:18That I had on the album
51:19Got a video too
51:20It was crazy
51:21You just spit
51:22You know what I'm saying
51:23I'll link it to you
51:25I forgot what album it's on
51:27Yeah
51:28Because I got
51:28It's ten albums we got
51:29Me and Vinny
51:30You know what I'm saying
51:31So
51:33Yeah
51:33That's why I'm saying
51:34You probably missed a couple
51:37Yeah
51:38I definitely missed a couple of albums
51:40Yeah
51:41Yeah
51:41Don't worry about it
51:42It'll link up
51:43So
51:44Yeah
51:44But Afro's so dope man
51:46He's dope man
51:47The young generation
51:49He'll keep it
51:50You know what I mean
51:50They keep that tradition
51:52Going on
51:53So
51:53We got another
51:54We got another joint
51:55Coming out too
51:56Off my man Diamond D's
51:57New album
51:58That's dropping me
51:59And Afro too
51:59We shot the video already
52:01All that
52:01And all that too
52:03So
52:04Yeah
52:04But
52:05Yeah I got a lot of
52:06Different
52:07I got a lot of
52:08Different shit
52:08Rusty Jicks album
52:10Is about to drop
52:12Yeah
52:12And we got a crazy shit
52:14On there
52:14We about to shoot
52:15The video to that too
52:16So that's a lot of shit
52:17I'm just not remembering
52:18It's a bunch of stuff
52:19Coming up
52:22But particularly
52:23I think I owe you
52:24I think I owe you
52:25And Vinny
52:27An interview
52:28Because you guys
52:29Are like
52:30Your cut's work
52:31Is very long
52:32So
52:33I think
52:34Yeah
52:35I think we need
52:36Something like that
52:37Yeah
52:38We make it happen
52:40For sure
52:41For sure
52:42For sure
52:42We make it happen
52:43Give him a half
52:44But yeah
52:46Yeah
52:46But before you leave
52:48Man
52:48Please let us know
52:50Where people can reach you
52:52Okay
52:54Terror Van
52:55Pool
52:55Everywhere
52:56Terror
52:58Regular
52:58Terror
52:59T-E
52:59R-R-O-R
53:00Underscore
53:01B-A-N
53:03Underscore
53:04P-O-O
53:05No H
53:07No H
53:08No Winnie the Pooh
53:09Shit
53:09Just P-O-O
53:10You know what I'm saying
53:11Yeah
53:13On everything
53:14YouTube
53:14All the social
53:15Meters man
53:16Terror Van
53:17Pool
53:17Facebook
53:19For sure
53:19IG
53:20YouTube
53:21Whatever it is man
53:24For sure
53:25Watch out for the new music
53:27We dropping
53:27Watch out
53:28Because we dropping
53:29Some every month
53:30Whoa
53:31Whoa
53:32Whoa
53:32The title
53:36Huh
53:37The title of the new
53:39The new
53:39Single
53:42What single is out
53:44Right now
53:45Bernadette
53:47Gunbutt is out
53:48Right now
53:49Yeah
53:50Featuring me
53:51And
53:52Bernadette Price
53:54And
53:54What single
53:56I got
53:56I got so much
53:57Shit out
53:59So I got
53:59The pull up
54:00Me and
54:01Rusty Jugs
54:01Is out
54:02With the video
54:04Over 50
54:05With me and
54:05Bernadette
54:06Same old crew
54:07With me and
54:09Lena Caine
54:09It's out
54:10And the dictator
54:12You know
54:12Is out
54:13With the video
54:14So
54:15We dropping like
54:16Five more videos
54:17Man
54:17You know what I'm saying
54:18I got another
54:19Single that's
54:20Coming out of
54:21Nowhere
54:22That
54:22Me and
54:23Bernadette
54:24Is about to
54:24Put out
54:25It's called
54:26You may not
54:27Understand
54:27Video shot too
54:29So I probably
54:29Dropped this week
54:31You know
54:31It's a bunch of
54:32Shit coming out
54:33Man
54:33So
54:34Stay tuned
54:35Van Poo and
54:36Album out
54:36Right now
54:37Man
54:37Let's go
54:38Let's go
54:39Yeah
54:40I'm probably
54:40I'm probably
54:42Because I'm
54:42Still enjoying
54:43Van Poo in
54:44I'm still enjoying
54:45Van Poo in
54:47Yo
54:50Thank you man
54:52Thank you so much
54:53For letting us
54:54Have a conversation
54:56With you
54:56I'm looking forward
54:58To more
54:58To more
54:59You know
54:59And yeah
55:01Yeah
55:02Yes sir
55:03Much love
55:05I'll link
55:06I'll link up with you
55:07And send you some stuff
55:08Man
55:08You know what I mean
55:09We keep up
55:09Keep up bro
55:10Please
55:10Please
55:11I got you
55:12And you'll send us
55:13You'll send us the posters
55:14For
55:15For
55:15For
55:18Got you
55:19I got you
55:20My
55:21Bravo
55:21For sure
55:23Much love
55:24Love
55:25Boy
55:30Yo
55:31Guys
55:34Ah
55:35Terra Van Poo
55:36Ah guys
55:37Such a blessing
55:38Such a blessing
55:39I mean
55:40I can't believe it
55:41Because like
55:41It was literally
55:42Like yesterday
55:42We literally had
55:43Rusty Chokes
55:45And then we had
55:46The Ochi
55:46Now we have got
55:47The Ochi
55:48Terra Van Poo
55:48And
55:49Also
55:50Okay
55:51I'm sharing
55:52The secret out
55:52Very soon
55:53We might be having
55:54Also
55:55Benedict Price
55:58Man
55:58Like
55:59It's gonna
56:00Like
56:00It's gonna be
56:01Very interesting
56:02I
56:02I never thought
56:03Like
56:04Like
56:04Since I was
56:05Very young
56:06I think
56:072014
56:072015
56:08Listening to
56:09Darkdown
56:10I never pictured
56:11That one day
56:12I'd have a podcast
56:13And I'm having
56:14A conversation
56:15With artists
56:15From
56:17Darkdown
56:17That I look up to
56:18Like
56:19I think
56:20I'm truly
56:21Blessed
56:22But yeah
56:23Man
56:24Guys
56:25Check me out
56:26On Instagram
56:27Ecliptic
56:29Also on Facebook
56:30Yeah
56:31So
56:32Even on YouTube
56:33Hip Hop Nation
56:35TV
56:35For those who
56:37Missed the interview
56:39Yeah
56:40Also
56:41Check us out
56:42On
56:44What's this
56:45Passproud
56:46We're available
56:46On Passproud
56:47As well
56:47So yeah
56:49Yeah
56:50Yeah
56:50Yeah
56:51I'm seeing a comment
56:54Levelgang
56:55GP
56:55Show
56:59Lubukhang
57:00Lubukhang
57:01Lubukhang
57:04Lubukhang
57:04Levsa
57:05Hey
57:06Hit me up
57:08Yeah
57:08Levsa
57:08On
57:09On
57:09On
57:10On
57:11On Facebook
57:11Or
57:12Instagram
57:13Yeah
57:15We'll talk
57:15My brother
57:16Thanks man
57:17For watching
57:18My brother
57:18I appreciate
57:18It
57:19Yeah guys
57:21So
57:23Maybe
57:24Very soon
57:25We might be
57:25Having
57:26Penited prize
57:26Oh man
57:28Oh
57:29When was the last
57:30When was the last
57:30Time we actually
57:31Had a
57:32Female MC
57:33So yeah
57:34So
57:35I'm actually
57:36Excited guys
57:38So yeah
57:39Guys
57:39Like I was saying
57:40We're also available
57:41On
57:44Bassproud
57:44Do also
57:45Check us out
57:46On
57:47Coffee
57:48So you can
57:49Support
57:50The movement
57:51Right there
57:52You know what I'm saying
57:53Yeah
57:54Yeah
57:54Definitely
57:55There's definitely
57:56Gonna be
57:57A Hip Hop Nation
57:59TV event
58:00Coming soon
58:01Okay
58:02Maybe like a
58:02Collaboration
58:03But yeah
58:04Do look out for that
58:06I'll definitely
58:07Let you know
58:09The dates
58:10So yeah
58:11Shout out to everyone
58:12Man
58:12That's been
58:13Supporting us
58:14Yeah
58:15Peace man
58:16I'm out man
58:18Shout out
58:20First of all
58:29Let's get it right
58:30Cause niggas
58:31It's usually wrong
58:31When I'm showing
58:32A trouble type
58:33Hears be buzzing
58:34They nose
58:34And be wondering
58:35What it like
58:36Your past
58:36Is too dark
58:37So you'll never
58:38See the light
58:39So
58:39I'm purposely
58:41Some did it
58:42Booking the new flow
58:43Put it out
58:44And then edit
58:44Put it back under wraps
58:46For you rappers
58:46To go get it
58:47People will steal your shit
58:49Go get it
58:49Move
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