00:00But one very powerful experience and that made me convinced that yes, you know, negative emotions have a source, they
00:08have a reality and they need to be looked at with compassion. I'll share that experience before we start.
00:12So I was working in this, you know, boys' shelter home, you know, where they were, you know, very young
00:20to adolescent boys. There was this shelter home. And what happened was that after, you know, I started going there
00:28for, you know, two, two and a half months into that, I used to go there once every week.
00:33So one of the, you know, these small children who were around seven or eight years old, they came and
00:41they told me that the older boys abused them sexually, you know.
00:46So, and it was something very, very worrying because I thought that if this thing is happening, then, you know,
00:54what's the whole meaning of, you know, coming and counselling them and trying to, you know, you know, this has
01:00to stop.
01:01So the first thing was that I went to the head of the institute and I said, you know, that,
01:05you know, this thing is happening and this somehow needs to be stopped.
01:10And he had his own limitations. He told me very candidly that I am somewhat aware about this, but we
01:16have very little staff over here and we can't really practically check on, you know, you know, what is happening
01:23and what not has happened.
01:24Okay. So that door was almost closed, you know. So the next thing was I thought that let me, you
01:32know, gather the perpetrators and talk to them, you know, maybe that ways.
01:37So with small children, I tried to identify that who were the ones who were doing this, you know, the
01:42adolescent boys who were sexually abusing them.
01:46And then I got them together in a group and I, in general, started talking about, you know, sexual abuse
01:52and its, you know, negative effects and why it should not be done and so on and so forth.
01:57And as I was doing it, one, you know, of the boys very sharply and very innocently, I'm saying innocently,
02:05told me, he said that, I think you are mistaken.
02:11You are very mistaken. You are very mistaken. There's no drama in this. In fact, you know, this is all
02:15fine.
02:16And we also went through it when we were small children, you know.
02:20And so then I talked to them in detail about this and it actually came out, you know, that they,
02:26each one of them had been very badly traumatized as a child.
02:41So, you know, this is a poem.
02:46You
