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00:00Okay, well, now that that's cleared up.
00:03A little tech talk for you here on the Mighty 550.
00:05Coming at you.
00:06Sorry.
00:07The depth chart.
00:09Depth charts.
00:10Remember when those were like a useful thing?
00:13Yep.
00:14Because now, like, it's got to be described as unofficial, even though it's got like the
00:19team logo and everything.
00:21It's not like Sal's doing it, so it's official enough.
00:24Mm-hmm.
00:25And now you have teams that are using OR.
00:28Oh!
00:29Jacksonville?
00:30Is that right?
00:31Jacksonville, Pittsburgh, I saw.
00:34Their starter or the backup could be just, I hate to start a week like this, but it's a
00:43shorter week, at least.
00:45It's just like, really?
00:47You don't even have to use it.
00:51You've already beaten us down with how unofficial it is, and now you can't tell us who your starting
00:58running back is, because it's OR.
00:59We don't know.
01:01The Bills did not use OR.
01:03At least you've got to give them that.
01:05They did not use OR.
01:07And there are a couple of interesting things, I think, on the depth chart that we'll talk
01:11about, Kincaid is the starter, Knox is second.
01:19Okay.
01:19What are the odds that when they line up for their first offensive play on Sunday, Knox is
01:25not on the field?
01:28Starting backup.
01:29Sorry.
01:29No OR.
01:30He's the backup.
01:31Yeah.
01:32He's the unofficial official backup.
01:35Is he really not on the field for that first play?
01:37I mean, you want to spread them out?
01:39Everybody just go routes?
01:41What do you want to do?
01:41Is he really not on the field to start the game?
01:46It is, I mean, it's really dependent on whether they want to come out with two tight ends
01:51or three, like, I don't know.
01:53But, like, that all sounds like, I mean, I think it's tracking toward Kincaid eating into
02:01Knox's time if he continues to prove to be healthy and reliable.
02:07Like, if they can get teams to believe that they might actually run the ball with him
02:14on the field, you know, that I think would increase his snap load, again, provided he's
02:21healthy.
02:21Well, let me ask this question.
02:22Why would they do that?
02:25Why would they do what?
02:26Replace Knox with Kincaid?
02:28Yes.
02:28Because Kincaid's a way better passing weapon than Knox's.
02:31So you think maybe, I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, you think maybe the
02:36Bills' overall inclination here would be to put Kincaid in the more traditional tight
02:45end position just to trick him?
02:46Yeah, I think it's possible this year, I think it could be different, and if they line up with
02:55one tight end on the field to start the game on Sunday, I could see it being Kincaid.
03:00Even week one?
03:02Wouldn't maybe they want to find out first?
03:04The matchup, see, the thing is, you're asking a tough question, because what are the chances
03:09Knox isn't on the field?
03:11I don't know, you don't know, nobody knows.
03:14Joe Brady probably knows, I'll bet the coaching staff knows, maybe they have a plan of how
03:17they want to start that game.
03:19But if they, so if they're starting with two tight ends, then he's absolutely on the field.
03:23Well, sure.
03:24I think.
03:24But if it's only one, I gotta say, I don't know, but I would lean Kincaid.
03:30I think it's two.
03:31I think you'd want, just for the, if this matters, kind of like the optics of it, to
03:38have them both play.
03:39We don't even know if all the receivers are healthy, necessarily, do we?
03:43No, we still don't, really.
03:44So, I think you have, I'd bet money it's two tight ends on the first play.
03:49Me too, or even three.
03:50Or even three.
03:50Especially with the matchup and how much trouble they had blocking Houston, on passing plays
03:57anyway, you could have Hawes in the backfield to help with that.
04:01Okay, well, it can't be one and only Knox, because of this depth chart that tells us he's
04:07the backup.
04:08Right.
04:08We know how important this is.
04:10Does it mean anything to you that Coleman, and this coincides with, it's the same as what
04:17has been out there on the R-Lads site since whenever the Bills first, during training
04:22camp, would have released the first version of their unofficial depth chart, Coleman was
04:27in a starting slot ahead of Palmer.
04:30Palmer is his direct backup.
04:32Coleman and DJ Moore are the starting outside receivers.
04:36On this new depth, I don't have it open here.
04:38I do.
04:38For some reason, it's not on the Bills site yet.
04:41I know they tweeted it, and I saw it there earlier today, so I remember, and I also have
04:45the R-Lads one, and I think they match, but anyway, I went to the buffalobills.com team
04:49depth chart.
04:51It'll be posted later.
04:52Like, okay, why are you...
04:54Never go to that website.
04:55Anyway, I very rarely do, but at a moment like this, rather than searching Twitter,
04:59which I'm currently locked out of on my desktop, I don't know, I thought I'll find it there,
05:06and I can't.
05:06So anyway, that stood out to me right away this summer, after the offseason.
05:12You know, go all the way back to January, if you want, with how Pakula sounded and how
05:16everything went, and we were sitting here like, I don't know, is he going to make it?
05:19Is he going to trade him for spare parts?
05:22No, they've got him listed as a starter.
05:24Yeah, Keon Coleman.
05:25Yeah.
05:25Yeah.
05:26It's interesting.
05:27Yeah, I think it is.
05:28Coleman over Palmer.
05:29Yep.
05:30I would not expect Palmer to be on the field on the first play.
05:34If the depth chart is supposed to mean anything.
05:36That's the question.
05:37It's unofficial.
05:39Yeah, right.
05:39Does it?
05:42Probably not.
05:43Well, Coleman, the light is still on, but it's flickering.
05:48It barely works.
05:50Like, it's still there, though.
05:51He's still 23.
05:54Year three.
05:55No, you know, maybe there are new people listening because it's all about to start again.
06:00Just a reminder, no player on the Bills has caught more touchdown passes the last two seasons
06:08than Keon Coleman.
06:10And, you know, everybody's kind of done with him.
06:13Well, not everybody.
06:15But certainly, like you just said, is how it's sounded.
06:18And the Bills haven't even been able to sort of stay on message, to say the least, when it has
06:24come to Coleman.
06:25Right?
06:26You've got the owner basically apologizing for the pick.
06:29Right.
06:29And then there's the new head coach like, oh, man, he's never going to be happier than having me.
06:33And like, okay, the owner's over here.
06:36The coach's over here.
06:38The GM's trying to navigate the middle.
06:42He's not dead.
06:43That's the bottom line on Coleman, is he's not dead.
06:45He's still on the team, and he is the starter on this depth chart, which I think is interesting.
06:50If it's not just a joke.
06:53Because the team can't seem to figure out, NFL teams can't seem to figure out if they want it to
06:56be considered a joke.
06:58Right?
06:59We've got or.
07:00Right.
07:00You know, it's not official.
07:02There's certainly no obligation to play to it.
07:04If they wanted to start all their backups on Sunday, they could.
07:07I mean, there's no, there's nothing.
07:10Right.
07:10Like, I don't know why you would do that.
07:13Right.
07:13I mean, you can do whatever you want.
07:15But we're long past.
07:16They could have one tight end on the field and have it be Jackson Hawes.
07:18They don't care.
07:19They're collecting lots.
07:20They don't care.
07:20They might do that on purpose.
07:22Like, we're years, if not decades, past the point in time where they felt like they had any obligation to
07:27be honest.
07:28So, why not just put it out there that these are our starters and then here we go on Sunday
07:34and they're not.
07:35Funny.
07:36You guys knew.
07:36We told you it was unofficial.
07:40Well, anyway, I'm a little bit more aroused by this than I really want to be.
07:47The depth chart.
07:49I mean, I'm just excited for the week.
07:52We've made it.
07:53And, you know, I wasn't in love with the idea of the opener, the traditional Super Bowl winner hosting the
07:59opener being on a Wednesday.
08:01But the fact that we just came back from a long weekend for Labor Day and it's already Tuesday means
08:06there's a game tomorrow is pretty cool.
08:08I'm just like ready to go, I get two games this week and then, of course, the whole weekend and
08:13all right.
08:15Spoken like somebody that does not have to run 50 leagues worth of waivers tonight.
08:19Right.
08:19I don't have to do anything.
08:19Because of the early starts.
08:20I don't have to do anything.
08:22I just got to open a bag of chips and turn the TV on.
08:25Hopefully, I know what channel it's on.
08:26Will it be in Spanish?
08:27Will it be in Spanish?
08:29Do we have the option of an English-speaking broadcast tomorrow?
08:32I hope so.
08:33You and I are trying to watch Manchester United against Everton.
08:36Yours versus mine.
08:37Red versus blue.
08:38It was only in Spanish.
08:39That's the only way we could get it.
08:41Was to watch.
08:42Fine.
08:43Good game.
08:43Yeah.
08:44It was a great game.
08:44I mean, even in Spanish.
08:45All four goals were really high-quality goals.
08:48There was no bad bounce type thing, really.
08:51The two Everton goals, for sure, I would say.
08:56I thought they were, yeah.
08:58My goals were great.
09:00Yours were okay.
09:01My go-ahead goal.
09:03Whatever.
09:03We don't need to quibble about it.
09:04The theme of this season, again, and I think it increases in this direction with each year
09:11that's gone by the way it's ended, is Super Bowl or bust.
09:15We had this from that one ranking that was out a week or two ago.
09:19Like, there were four teams on that ranking that were, quote, Super Bowl or bust.
09:25I mean, tell me what bust looks like.
09:28Right.
09:28And what it actually means.
09:30I think McDermott leaving was bust.
09:35Last year, because of that decision the Bills made, that would define bust.
09:43Yeah.
09:43We wanted to, even if, maybe you make it.
09:46If they had made it and lost to Seattle, is that okay?
09:50Like, for him.
09:51I mean.
09:52But they lost to Denver in the second round.
09:54Right.
09:54And did not win their division.
09:56Bust.
09:56Right.
09:57That was bust for him.
09:58Yeah, considering what the expectations were, yeah, that equaled bust.
10:02I don't know if that happens again, that, what, do they do the same thing?
10:05I don't think they do anything if that happens again.
10:07I mean, what's bust?
10:08I think when we talk, I don't remember, I don't remember, I know we had this conversation.
10:11I don't remember how I felt about it at that time, but I'll bet it's pretty similar.
10:16Like, I think you get pretty flippant with the word bust.
10:19Because if they win 11 games and go out in the divisional round, is Joe Brady getting fired?
10:24Come on.
10:24I mean, what are we doing here?
10:26Is Terry Puglian going to go, oh, well, that's it then.
10:28The roster's not good enough.
10:30I have a general manager, president of football operations problem?
10:33No.
10:34So, what if, oh, my quarterback can't get it done?
10:37Let's try something.
10:38No.
10:39That's the most absurd of the two things I just said, or the three things I just said.
10:43So, no.
10:45Nothing happens.
10:46There's no bust.
10:47There is no bust for the Bills.
10:49This year.
10:50Yeah.
10:50I would say the same for the Ravens.
10:52Like, they're, and they've had, you know, rockier years within the run that they've been on the same timeline as
11:00the Bills with Lamar and Josh both being in the same draft.
11:03Really only for one reason, his injuries.
11:05Yeah.
11:05Right.
11:06But that said, I mean, there is a contract thing there.
11:11Maybe, right?
11:12I don't know.
11:12Like, maybe they could move on him.
11:16I don't know.
11:16No, it's not always been super smooth.
11:19No.
11:19It feels like between he, definitely not as smooth as it appears to be between Josh Allen and the Bills.
11:24Very true.
11:25So, that could be a bust button you press, but I still wouldn't predict it.
11:29I mean, you've got one of the two or three best guys in the league.
11:32Even if you have some conflicts behind closed doors, I think you'd still try to find a way to keep
11:37that working.
11:39So, yeah.
11:40I don't think that really, really works.
11:41Well, listen, Baltimore can be this too, but you've just got to win one of these.
11:49I mean, like, we're in an era that really is the best in Bills history.
11:57I think these are the, I think Allen has quarterbacked the best teams the Bills have ever had.
12:02That's debatable versus the 90s, but it's at least close.
12:06And you haven't even made one of these games yet.
12:09And, like, increasingly it comes to define them, the losing, which, you know, it's not fair.
12:17Right.
12:18A lot of teams don't, aren't subjected to the same level of scrutiny because they're not that good.
12:24But, really, the falling short, and the Ravens, I mean, yes, they're very similar.
12:31The losing in the AFC playoffs, which last year did not include games against the Chiefs or the Bengals, has
12:38come for either.
12:39The Ravens didn't even make it.
12:41Has come to kind of define the Bills.
12:44You'll know.
12:44I mean, you've probably already heard it in the last couple of years or even more than that.
12:48When you get there, that's the conversation, is can they actually win one?
12:54And I think that's probably going to be more than ever this year, not just because it's one more year
13:04on the pile, but because of how they lost and who they lost to last year.
13:10I mean, Denver won 14 games.
13:11They weren't a slouch.
13:12But that wasn't Mahomes.
13:15Or even Jackson.
13:16Neither were they an established behemoth in the conference.
13:20No.
13:20And there were five turnovers.
13:23So, it looks like you blew it.
13:26They did.
13:26And against Kansas City, they can get, people will more often apologize for them.
13:32I would.
13:33I mean, because of who you're playing.
13:35This wasn't Kansas City.
13:37So, I think, really, if you're already sick of it, look out, because this year is very much.
13:43And, you know, we have New England, which adds to that, too.
13:47And New England kind of, you know, this is not always that respectable, but New England's year and their presence
13:54is more just like questions about whether the Bills' run is over.
14:00And, you know, it's probably not.
14:02But their division title run ended.
14:04That's right, ended, and who's the first game?
14:09Like, if I'm already, well, I wasn't thinking about this walking in here today, but this conversation has landed me
14:15here.
14:16If somehow, I said somehow, like it's completely far-fetched.
14:20Three and a half.
14:20If New England goes out to Seattle and wins, you know, in the first game of the year in front
14:25of the whole country, I think already there will be, panic is too strong.
14:31But, like, I'm not super comfortable.
14:35Like, what?
14:36They just went out there.
14:37We watched the Super Bowl.
14:39They did not look up to it at all against that team.
14:42And here's a new game on a new day in a new season.
14:46And what they did, what?
14:47They went out to Seattle and won 31-24?
14:50What?
14:51Very possible.
14:52So, if you get that, boy, Thursday, there's going to be a lot of angst, I think, already without the
14:57Bills even having gotten on the field yet.
14:59I have the box score open from the Super Bowl.
15:03I don't remember why.
15:05Yeah, Ian Harden said a tweet about May and how his playoffs were not actually that bad.
15:11I'm just thinking, like, dude, that was the fourth quarter of the Super Bowl.
15:13That was garbage time.
15:14But, okay, I called up that box score to check that.
15:20New England, their both, your eyes might start bleeding looking at this game.
15:25That's really why I can't really believe that they picked New England for this game.
15:30But Patriots in the Super Bowl.
15:32Punt, punt, punt, punt, punt.
15:34End of half.
15:35Punt, punt, punt.
15:36Fumble.
15:38Now we're into the fourth quarter.
15:40Touchdown, interception, interception, touchdown, end of game.
15:43Seattle, field goal, punt, punt, field goal, punt, field goal, field goal, punt, punt, touchdown.
15:49A.J. Barner, congrats.
15:51First touchdown of, that was the prop bet you needed.
15:53First touchdown of the Super Bowl.
15:54Seattle tight end, A.J. Barner.
15:56Punt, field goal, punt.
15:58I mean, they scored one touchdown in the game, Seattle.
16:01They were outgained in the game.
16:04Feels like, to me, I think of it like it was a blowout.
16:06Me too.
16:08But, you know, garbage time.
16:09Wasn't interesting at all.
16:11Got to run it back.
16:13Right.
16:13We got to have that.
16:14But it's, you know, we'll all watch it.
16:15What was the final score of that game?
16:1729-12.
16:18Okay.
16:1829-13.
16:2029-13.
16:2129.
16:22Yeah.
16:22You don't see that a lot.
16:2329-13 was the final score.
16:25Super Bowl 60.
16:30Okay.
16:31I'll take your word for it.
16:32Yep.
16:33All right.
16:34Week one.
16:36So, we just found out.
16:37Ross Tucker today.
16:39That's cool.
16:40Welcome back, Ross.
16:41All right.
16:41Tuesdays at 4 is the slot now for Ross Tucker, mostly, normally.
16:47And we'll have Sal on.
16:49Sal Capaccio coming up at 5 today.
16:51Got to talk about the Michigan nonsense.
16:54I'm already a little bit too agitated, and I want to not be, like, already off the deep end
17:00by the time we get to the Michigan thing.
17:02But I watched that.
17:03I can't say I can't believe it, because I kind of, it's totally believable.
17:09Yeah.
17:09What happened there?
17:11Just seems to happen constantly, this kind of thing.
17:13So, we'll talk about that a little bit too.
17:16So, we'll talk about that a little bit too.