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ITL discusses whether expectations have officially reached championship levels.
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00:00Yeah, the Los Angeles Rams trade for Miles Garrett.
00:03So now the best pass rusher in all of the AFC quite probably is Will Anderson Jr.
00:08But the Rams already had the best roster in all of football.
00:13And they went and they acquired the dude who broke the sack record last year.
00:16Like, that is an all-in move as all-in as it gets.
00:19And the question that I think we both had separately and that come together here is,
00:23what would that move be for the Texans if they were in that same place?
00:27Not only what would that move be, but my question was more,
00:30you know, we've just been working under the assumption the Texans are all-in.
00:33And I think that's fair.
00:34They're doing it their way.
00:36But are the Texans really in Super Bowl or bust mode?
00:39Because it's not just the Rams.
00:41You know, the Patriots have made a couple moves, including A.J. Brown.
00:47Is it just FOMO for me?
00:49Because I'm like, now that right there, those right there are a couple of teams
00:53that are in, like, Super Bowl or bust.
00:56It's undeniable.
00:56Yeah, they've got to win it this year.
00:58It is undeniable.
00:59Type time.
01:00Patriots, A.J. Brown, which, by the way, I think he's going to do pretty dang well,
01:04you know, over there in England.
01:06You tell me a big-body, big-play receiver with a quarterback that likes throwing it downfield
01:11is going to go well together?
01:11My goodness.
01:12They did pretty good with Stephon Diggs.
01:14Yeah, they did.
01:14So, maybe it is just FOMO.
01:17But, like, there is no question from anyone in the NFL, anyone watching the NFL, those
01:23teams are going for it.
01:24And it just got me thinking, are the Texans really in Super Bowl or bust mode?
01:30I mean...
01:30I'm not sure if they are.
01:32Yeah.
01:32I feel like they want to compete for a Super Bowl every year.
01:35You could see as clear as they, they're building the roster to compete for the next, how many
01:41years?
01:41Five to seven, or whatever.
01:43They're building.
01:43Yeah, they're building.
01:45They're trying to stay around for a long time and not try to have a one-year or two-year
01:48flash type deal.
01:50So, I think, of course, I think they're trying to win the Super Bowl.
01:52I don't think it's Super Bowl or bust.
01:55Yeah, I think that's a fair way of putting it, right?
01:57Because we talked about this before, and we got a little pedantic with it, and I will raise
02:01my hand on it, the idea of the or bust.
02:03What is the bust situation here?
02:05Right.
02:05And I don't personally see that.
02:07But the particular moves that we're talking about, I don't know that I see the comparison
02:11really on either side, right?
02:13Because the Patriots move, we'll start there, where they acquire A.J. Brown, a dude who
02:18we knew, the Eagles were just waiting for the June 1st, so they could move on from a
02:24player, you know, that this contractual situation would be more amenable.
02:29That one is, the Patriots had a need at wide receiver.
02:32Well, sure.
02:33Like, it was clear that they needed to upgrade at that space, and there you go.
02:37This is a dude who is very much available.
02:39They make that move.
02:40With the Texans, where is the place on this team that you go, there is a clear need starting
02:45wise for them?
02:46No, there's not.
02:47And I feel, you know, we've talked a little bit about maybe rush end, maybe, you know,
02:53defensive tackle.
02:54You know, I know they drafted, but...
02:56But all that's depth, right?
02:56But all that is depth.
02:57So there's not like a glaring need right there.
03:00And so that's why I would put that to the side.
03:02This is where we come back to the Los Angeles Rams, because you can't say...
03:05They had...
03:06Yeah, I was going to say, what was their need?
03:09They didn't, right?
03:10Jared Burst is a very good two-time pro bowler in this two seasons.
03:13Yeah.
03:14He was a defensive rookie of the year in his rookie year.
03:16Like, this is a very good pass rusher.
03:18They just decided, bump it.
03:20We are going to go from the best roster in the NFL to unquestionably the best roster in
03:27This is like Golden State Warriors getting Kevin Durant at this point.
03:31Absolutely.
03:31That's a great way to put it.
03:33And that's why I was asking the question, like, if you look at all the big Texans moves
03:37this offseason, did any of them, you know, rock the NFL world?
03:41Like, ooh, they are all in.
03:43Let's go to David Montgomery.
03:44Was that one where they went, ooh?
03:46That's probably the one that did where everybody said, oh, okay, that might be a nice little
03:50pickup for them.
03:51But he's replacing Chubb.
03:52You know, he's just another guy that's like...
03:56And I'm not downplaying it.
03:58Right.
03:58All I'm saying is the one that makes your head spin.
04:00David Montgomery was a really good move, but look at the Texans.
04:04And here's the thing.
04:05You know what I mean?
04:05Yeah, no, and you're right.
04:06You're right about that.
04:07But in some ways, and look, I feel very good about the Rams.
04:11I think you've heard that in the way that I've talked about them.
04:14In some ways, both of these teams we're talking about, whether it's the Patriots or the Rams,
04:18they're winning the offseason, not the Super Bowl right now.
04:20Sure.
04:21And that's why I'm asking.
04:22Is it just FOMO?
04:22And I think it is, right?
04:23Because if you listen to a lot of these smart people in the football world, they gush over
04:30what Nick Casario did.
04:31I can't remember who it was in this moment, and I will search it out so that I can attribute
04:35it properly.
04:36But there was somebody...
04:37Was it Chris Sims?
04:39There was somebody in the analysis space that was saying that Nick Casario is basically that
04:45GM outside of Jair Roseman.
04:47And that's based largely off of the offseason that you saw and the way that they went about
04:51things in a fairly moderated way, but where they answered all these questions in a way
04:58that feels like it's plausible.
05:01That's more what this team needed in this case.
05:03I would be interested in what is the over-the-top haymaker of a move that is equivalent to the
05:09Miles Garrett.
05:10But also, I think that it would have to be for a Miles Garrett-type player.
05:13You know what I mean?
05:13That is the thing that you're looking at, and I do wonder, where is the place that that
05:17would be the most useful?
05:18Because it's not anywhere on defense, in the same way that it was for the Rams.
05:22I think the Rams thing is, Miles Garrett is a dude who lifts all boats on your defense,
05:27and Jared Verst, while he is very good, he did not have good conversion of sack rate.
05:33He very much created pressure, but the pressure didn't turn to sacks.
05:36The pressure turns to sacks for Miles Garrett, as evidenced by the number 23.
05:40Or was it 23 and a half?
05:41Am I forgetting?
05:44I think that that was a clear change that was necessary, and that's the upgrade that
05:48you're seeing with the three first-round pick values within that trade.
05:53Where is the position that you would need that for the Texans, especially offensively,
05:57that kind of upgrade from what you already have?
05:59Well, again, the only one I would have said that sort of rocks the world, so to speak,
06:04the NFL world, would have probably been running back.
06:07But that's a tough one to get.
06:08And that's not to downplay David Montgomery by any stretch.
06:11But even other teams have one where you kind of sit back in your chair a little bit.
06:16Kansas City went out and got Kenneth Walker.
06:18Yeah.
06:18You know, the Broncos went out and got Jalen Waddell.
06:21And I'm not saying it's the equivalent of like an A.J. Brown or a Miles Garrett, but it kind
06:27of made
06:27everybody sit up in their chair a little bit.
06:29And that's why I brought the question up, do these moves read Blankenship, you know, David Montgomery?
06:35Were those ones that made the rest of the NFL sort of sit up in their chair even a little
06:39bit?
06:39The Blankenship one, I think it did.
06:41I think that that one did.
06:43The David Montgomery, it made us sit up in our chairs.
06:45And that's one of those things where if they don't know, they will feel it, right?
06:48They'll realize that, oh, when the Texans are capable of getting into the red zone and punching
06:52it in, it looks a little different.
06:53I think that the Tex line has come to the answer that I was going to come to, which is
06:57the upgrade would be big time wide receiver.
06:59And I'm surprised that you didn't get there because I know that you were looking at,
07:02is there an opportunity to get a wide receiver?
07:04But that is a place where I think the wide receiver room right now, now you have to lean on
07:09the idea of development, but it's like, okay, there's some interesting stuff that happens
07:13here if Jayden Higgins continues to take this progression.
07:15But again, that's not, they are in Super Bowl or bust mode, but like counting on development
07:19is not Super Bowl or bust mode.
07:21No, I know, but that's what I'm saying.
07:21That's the place where you could reverse in this instance of whether it's Noel or Higgins
07:27to, and at this name that comes up is really interesting.
07:30Like if you somehow pry away Justin Jefferson, you go, okay, that would be the equivalent.
07:34That's what I'm talking about right there.
07:36That would leave no doubt, right?
07:37Right, and that's why I thought it was an interesting question because, I mean, just
07:41in the AFC, Patriots, Chiefs, Denver, they're making moves.
07:44They all made moves.
07:45They all made moves.
07:46And they were close.
07:47Yeah.
07:47They were really close.
07:48Yeah, exactly.
07:49And that's why I come back to like Taint Dell, like, you know, the idea of man, you know,
07:54depending on when he actually is available.
07:56Also, do you get to see that explosion?
07:58Because in theory, I look at this and you have guys like Higgins can make explosive.
08:02Niko clearly can make explosives, but the guys who you go, that guy is a take the top
08:07off type, explosive type player.
08:09A game changer.
08:10Taint Dell is supposed to be that.
08:12He has been that, but what does it look like if and when he returns?
08:15You can't depend on that.
08:16Jalen Knoll.
08:16Yeah.
08:17And so you are a Jalen Knoll injury away from going, damn, do you even have that within
08:22your wide receiver room?
08:23Yeah.
08:24And that's the only thing that I go, oh, that would be the opportunity for you to make
08:27that crazy move.
08:28But I don't think it's necessary.
08:29It's just one of those things where a team does it and you go, damn, we can't do that
08:33to us?
08:34Yeah.
08:34It's like, you know, now that, there's no doubt, that is Super Bowl or bust.
08:38I'm not saying the Texans aren't, but they haven't made that move yet.
08:41Yeah, they're trying to stay the court so they can be relevant for the next, what, 10 years
08:45or something.
08:46That's what it's saying, like, they move in light.
08:49And there's another one that comes in that's interesting.
08:50They say, what if you went and got George Pickens?
08:52That would be, that'd be kind of close there, but I don't know how much I'd love the ambiguity
08:57of stepping into the contractual situation there.
09:00Yeah.
09:00But I think that would be, that would fit the mold.
09:03That would fit the mold.
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