How a 72-Year-Old Turns Dead Retail Into Millions with David Pelusio

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Join an active community of RE investors here: https://linktr.ee/gabepetersen   Welcome back to the Real Estate Investing Club 🎙️ In this episode I sit down with David Pelusio Sr., a self storage developer and commercial real estate investor who bought his very first house at sixteen years old and has spent the decades since building shopping centers, hotels, and now a thriving self storage empire. If you are looking for real estate investing strategies, self storage investing tips, or a real blueprint for financial freedom through commercial real estate, this conversation is packed with numbers, mistakes, and hard won wisdom you will not want to miss 🔑   THE SELF STORAGE STRATEGY THAT TURNS DEAD RETAIL INTO GOLD 🏚️➡️💰  David explains exactly how his team hunts for oversized big box stores like old JCPenney, Sears, Big Lots, and Joann Fabrics locations and converts them into climate controlled drive thru mini storage facilities. We dig into the net rentable square footage per capita metric he swears by, why he never chases a market above five percent when the national average sits near nine, and why buying right is the only thing that actually protects a real estate deal.   THE NUMBERS BEHIND A SELF STORAGE DEVELOPMENT DEAL 📊  This episode gets refreshingly specific about the money. David walks through how outparcels lower his true basis on an eight figure purchase, how a property bought for around ten million can sell for thirteen to seventeen million the same year it stabilizes, and why he would rather flip a self storage facility in ninety days than hold it for three years. We also talk about 1031 exchanges, investor returns, and why rolling equity into the next deal beats sitting on a paid off asset.   Want to learn more about our guest? Connect here: https://www.instagram.com/openspaceswomen/   Want to learn more about the REI Club Podcast, how to invest with Gabe at Kaizen, or join our community of active real estate investors on Skool? Visit the podcast website at https://www.therealestateinvestingclub.com or click here: https://linktr.ee/gabepetersen   #RealEstateInvesting #BRRRRMethod #PassiveIncome #FinancialFreedom #RealEstatePodcast

Transcript

00:05all right welcome back to another episode of the real estate investing club i hope you guys are

00:11having a great day great week wherever you are and whatever day it is for you it has actually

00:17been a minute since we've done an episode because it is summer it's august what day is it today

00:23august 7th and so always during the summer we kind of have a lag time you know going on vacations

00:28doing all the stuff i actually just got back from a due diligence trip actually we closed on the

00:33property so an onboarding trip out to pennsylvania the first time i've ever ever been out to

00:38pennsylvania it was beautiful love the state so yeah we're getting back into it and uh it is exciting

00:44because we have a storage developer on the show david peluccio to kick us off again david i told

00:51you before we got on here we always like to start with stories we like to hear how people got

00:55to where

00:55they are so why don't you take us back to the beginning of your story in real estate and just

01:00tell us how you got here well it goes back quite a ways i started when i was 16 years

01:09old actually i

01:10bought my first house with my cousin and he was older so he could put it in his name and

01:15it was a

01:16we used to do uh fix and flips back in the 70s and um and then i've done every kind

01:23of development

01:24office shopping centers was my main thing uh hotels uh all kinds of construction uh renovations

01:34but that's basically my my career and has been a long long haul i was retired for a while and

01:40i

01:40got a little bored so i went back to work yeah i could imagine after having a career in real

01:47estate

01:47just uh sitting twiddling your thumbs is not the thing you want to do you want to get out there

01:51and

01:51get stuff done no we become deal junkies and that's what we're doing we're just uh we just

01:56have we like the the fun of making the deals and and not not for that nothing i got six

02:01grand kids

02:01i gotta help them out a little bit so that got me motivated um so let's let's don't jump diet

02:10deeper man i can't even talk it's been uh it's been too long just doing vacation but let's dive deeper

02:16into what you're the nitty-gritty of what you're doing development is a very um not unique i mean

02:21a lot of people do it but it is something that is more advanced a lot of people they get

02:26started in

02:26the fix and flips just like you did and then they slowly make their way some of them go into

02:30development but it is a very lucrative and um and well like i said advanced way to do real estate

02:37how'd you get into development what brought you into that that path

02:42uh constructions uh i was doing i had um at one point i had a kitchen manufacturing plant

02:48i was making doing um kitchens in tampa florida and quite frankly i got tired of holding my breath

02:56getting paid by the gc so i said i think i've become a gc and i so we started building

03:02in the

03:02for ourselves and that's how we started with the mini storages and and and condominiums and duplexes

03:09and fourplexes and all that stuff um and and it's continued on the shopping centers and

03:14and and onward um but you know presently uh we were just doing strictly mini storages uh we're buying

03:23uh large box stores the old uh um big lots joanne fabrics pennies sears whatever um and converting

03:32them to drive-through they have to be a drive-through mini mini storage climate control um we'd like

03:38the body so i um so so my my company we buy mobile home parks rv parks and self-storage

03:44facilities

03:44uh self-storage is interesting because it in my at least where i'm looking to buy in the metros that

03:52that we have purchased um a lot of the space a lot of the metros are overbuilt the the net

03:58rentable

03:59per capita i feel like is just it's too high to justify adding more square footage um usually when

04:05you find a big box like like you said a jc penny something like that those are in locations that

04:10have been you know they already have a high net rentable um why uh where are you seeing the

04:16opportunity to convert these you know big box stores are that's all a hundred thousand square

04:21feet something you know it's a lot of square feet and so where are you finding the opportunities that

04:26that are not overbuilt in the local area well you know if you have to you go to secondary markets

04:34because they're out there too um uh but we we we first thing we do is check the the uh

04:41the square

04:42footage you know capacity um and if it's you know the national i think is 8.9 i don't even

04:47get near to

04:48that uh the ones we've we've converted are less than three or into fives if not we move on to

04:55the

04:55next because there's so much inventory out there uh there's no sense of trying to make something work

05:00it needs to fit our criteria i call it a silver platter everything has to fit on that silver

05:06platter and if it does then you just move it on down the road to the next one you know

05:10we've got all

05:10the um uh architects engineers sec attorneys sec accountants uh because we do you know have investors

05:19and we also uh we use the national companies to convert these things the state-of-the-art

05:26slack systems uh where you're all run by your cell phone everything is a visual of a remote

05:32um you pull in the door opens you you pull out the door opens you go to your unit the

05:39door opens

05:40right from your cell everything is recorded everything is printed out

05:47yeah so very very automated very um connected i uh um so i'm noticing that your your video is a

05:54little laggy i can you turn off the actual video function and i apologize for people who are watching

06:00you're just gonna have to stare at my face but i just want to make sure that uh that david's

06:04voice

06:05comes through clear um sometimes he uh he wasn't able to make it to his office so he's he's uh

06:10he's

06:10stuck in the car but um we're gonna make sure that we at least hear what he has to say

06:14um uh yeah

06:16david if you can just turn off your the video portion of your call because i think that's what's

06:20making you a little bit laggy here um i want to keep the conversation going though so you mentioned

06:27you guys look for what you said less than five is that what it is uh net rentable per capita

06:35yeah or five five and a half would be uh max because then when you bring in a 800 to

06:40a thousand

06:41units you just bumped it up to six getting too close to the 8.9 that national number so we

06:47don't we

06:48want to be able to buy right we buy them right just so we can sell them right and we

06:52can we can market

06:54them right we can you know it's all it's all goes to the first thing the buying it if you

07:00don't buy

07:00right then it's no good absolutely yeah and i i you know myself and um everybody that we have on

07:06this

07:06show repeats that exact thing is you cannot fix a bad buy um if you buy right then everything else

07:15will fall into place you're still going to run into issues there's still going to be things that

07:18pop up that you have to solve but you won't ruin the deal um but if you do make a

07:24mistake on that

07:24very first decision buying wrong um you know fudging your numbers fudging your due diligence

07:30fudging how you're looking at the deal then there is no recouping from that because uh buying too high

07:36and and thinking that you can solve a bad buy just by you know something that happens in the future

07:44you know appreciation population moving to the area is not not the way to do deals it's the way to

07:49lose

07:49money um so yeah i like that is there a certain population that you population size that you guys

07:55look for in the you know two to five mile radius it it again the first the first thing we

08:04do is we

08:04check the the um first square foot on the um as far as the competition goes and then usually we're

08:13we're in retail good retail location so there's usually about 40 to 70 000 homes right around the you

08:19know the one to three mile range the incomes you're always there because they they were good

08:24retail stores the only reason why they closed was because of the the amazon and and and the internet

08:29and and and people's uh habits have changed as far as shopping so um the the you know the income's

08:36there the traffic counts there uh we just had to make sure that the the area needs and warrants more

08:42storage yeah and like i said there's so much i think there's at least a good five years

08:47before all those big boxes are consumed uh the big developers are coming and buying them and knock

08:53them down to this build shopping centers that are only you know 3 000 square foot tenants you can't

08:57convert these to that because they're too big and deep um so they're either converted into what we're

09:04doing or another retailer or but you certainly can't cut it up it costs you too much yeah um it

09:11is

09:11interesting that you said drive-through because i'm i'm picturing you know uh jc penny something like

09:17that they are big but they are boxes and there's no obviously there's no road through them uh right now

09:24you guys are putting them in there talk about that because that is an interesting um decision and uh and

09:30and well it's an interesting decision especially given how these structures are located on the parcel

09:37a lot of them might feel like have a back alley but the main parking lot is in the front

09:41um yeah tell

09:43us a little bit about that decision to require well they all they all have uh loading docks

09:49right okay so they have so they have a back driveway of some sort you know so and it's it

09:57doesn't have

09:58to look pretty when you're going out this has to look pretty when you're coming in so uh the front

10:02of

10:02the store has a great big garage door opens up and then you drive and pull over to the side

10:08and unload your your your stuff that way and you just go down to your unit uh and then you

10:13just

10:14drive straight back right out um and you you try to position it uh where it's uh ground level because

10:22they do have ground level and then they also have loading docks and they're usually pretty good um

10:27if not you got to modify the back a little bit but but that's not that's not been an issue

10:31okay i haven't ran into an issue where i can't get out because uh we haven't had that problem at

10:39all

10:39so take us through you know i know every deal is is very unique it's all um based on the

10:45location

10:46etc etc but just take us through a standard deal what are you getting the box for the the um

10:52you know

10:52the the real estate that you're purchasing what are you getting that for what's the development cost

10:56what's the final sell i i have um the last two we're doing um in fact the one we the

11:04one we just

11:04finished we we sold it before we even closed because a major um they own 250 units nationwide came

11:13in and wanted to build it themselves so i just just flipped it didn't have to build it oh wow

11:18um

11:18yeah that was a good one and then there's our we'd like our parcel so on this particular piece

11:23there was one a 25 000 square foot napa auto parts national tenant and we flipped that as well

11:31um and then we moved on to the the the the next one to uh uh by doing it like

11:38a 1031 exchange

11:39and that had five art parcels they had like a dairy queen a walk-in clinic it's got a good

11:45coffee shop

11:46it's got a a drop-off section for um goodwill uh it's got uh national tenant uh that cds plasma

11:55we like the art parcels because when you separate the art parcels and you put a value on them you

12:00deduct that from the total purchase price so if the total purchase price on that was eight million

12:05but then when i got done putting very very reasonable numbers on what i felt the value of

12:11the art parcels were and then lowered it just in case there's a mistake um you wind up buying the

12:17building for a million bucks the rest of it's all art parcel money uh if you sell it right um

12:22and so

12:23now you're in there for peanuts per square foot you can't build it for 250 or 300 a foot site

12:29work's

12:29all done the electric's all done in there you just have to modify some of it and the sprinkler system

12:33move a couple heads around and you're and you recto fit the minis inside a national company comes in

12:39they put it together like they're putting together lados the national company comes in and manages

12:44for me because i don't want to do that anymore and i moved on the road to the next um

12:48the investors are

12:49happy because they're they're in and out fast um the fastest one we did is uh 90 day 90 to

12:57120 days

12:57they were in and out um but i do tell people it's a it's a year to two though it's

13:03a year to two

13:04normally that's what we plan we put it on the market as soon as uh uh we get control of

13:11it

13:11we have different prices along the way as far depends how far we go if we actually open it

13:17and run it for three months uh we usually sell for a seven cap or or even better a better

13:24rate keep it

13:24low uh again because we bought it right we can sell it right um we usually make about two to

13:30three

13:31million to four million dollars on uh something that's already done the development cost is about

13:36two million as far as putting together the interior of them um so you're all in for 10 million and

13:43you

13:43can sell it for 13 to 14 million day one if not it goes up to 17 million and if

13:49you hold it and don't

13:50sell the art parcels that particular piece is worth 25 million in in three years but i'm not holding

13:56them i'm i'm 72 years old i'm in it to have fun i like to go to the next deal

14:02i want the grandkids

14:03to get some more money so we're flipping and the investors like that because they get nice return

14:09uh on a quarterly basis or annual basis actually and then they get a if they depending on how much

14:14they invest they get a they get a piece of the cell you know at the end of net so

14:19uh everybody's

14:20happy and we just move on to the next nice i like it that is kind of the uh perennial

14:26debate that investors have you know a lot of people are in the school of thought if you buy

14:30something never sell it keep it in your portfolio until you're a hundred years old um but there's

14:37other people who are in the other camp that if you put the equity if you already have the equity

14:40in

14:40why why keep it there why not just roll that into another asset um it sounds like you are on

14:46the

14:46the role of the equity into something else side uh if everybody falls if everybody falls in love

14:52with the piece of property there's another there's options you just refinance it pull out the equity

14:56take the equity go to another one everybody still owns it you know this again it's how you buy it

15:02because it's got to appraise and it's going to appraise for more because you couldn't build these

15:07things for what we're paying for them as soon as they're cash flowing and these art parcels help

15:12with the interest carrying costs until you ramp up your your rentals too considerably yeah you know like

15:19this one had uh close to 450 000 a year worth of revenue uh and let's say it's 700 000

15:26worth of

15:26interest and carrying costs for the first year that's you cut it in half or less not less um and

15:34and uh again because we bought it right we can rent the units a little bit cheaper than my competition

15:41so we can rent our ramp up you know it's 25 in three months of the whole project is really

15:48yeah

15:48yeah yeah it's not the normal uh you know but if i if i'm 60 70 less per unit they

15:58come running and

15:59they're new and it's and it's state of the arts and it's clean um and they're used to the area

16:05because

16:06they drove by that building 40 000 times yeah that makes sense and especially with uh so we most of

16:15what we own is um is drive up uh it's outdoor drive up and uh and so you know people

16:21are very

16:22attracted to indoor um especially with the automations that you can do now i mean it makes

16:28a lot of sense why you can you know 25 lease up in three months is insane especially i mean

16:33how many

16:33units are you putting into one of these things it's probably well you tell me anywhere between 500 to

16:40a thousand yeah it's somewhere in between depending on the size of it so you guys are filling you know

16:44100 to 250 units in in three months which is insane um that's yeah it's pretty impressive yeah that's a

16:53huge tick up how about uh the the keep going the national the national uh buyers the big boys um

17:03um they they they like the big units they don't want uh four or five hundred units they want 800

17:09to

17:09a thousand units yeah um so the one i was going to build though it's going to put 700 units

17:17in it

17:17and they had three four acres that wasn't they're going to put some units outside as well so they're

17:22getting it up to a thousand units the national buyer that's buying it and that's what they wanted

17:27yeah they they couldn't do it they couldn't do a two-story because the ceiling heights aren't high

17:31enough uh i got one i got one that we're just tying up that's got 26 foot ceilings so you

17:38can do

17:3926 wow two star yeah and it's 140 000 feet wow that's a big store you could do you could

17:47do 2500

17:47units in that but i wouldn't i wouldn't yeah we're going to subdivide it and do as far as part

17:53of it's

17:53going to be warehouse and the rest of it's going to be mini it's too big yeah but um but

17:58again but that

17:59that that subdividing helps because you get a couple tenants in there right away they the revenue

18:05helps carry the cost on the minis as far as the interest carry cost so it's important to have um

18:10you know revenue coming in from another source on the same on the same site yeah makes sense um so

18:16so

18:17how are you finding these i'm assuming are these all coming through brokers or do you guys do off

18:21market like you're looking for for big box retail um that's probably x amount of years old and just

18:28calling the owners well i have several ways i've got realtors that know what i'm looking for

18:34naturally i um i have an analyst that it's on staff that that is that's typing in zip codes all

18:40over the

18:40area or and and and soon to be more in down south and i want to go west or midwest

18:46with this as well

18:47even though i'm in rochester new york uh i also have my old way of doing things where i drive

18:53down the

18:53street and i never look straight i look to the right and look to the left and my my wife

18:58yells

18:58at me uh that's the to tell you the truth that's the best way you fight you got to find

19:06these deals

19:07you can't depend on one source yeah if you do you're dead in the water yeah you got to have

19:12a

19:13blend so i look in fact i'm i'm on my way because i got a call last night from a

19:17guy that i'm doing

19:18business with he's got 12 acres with warehouses on it and it's sitting there and he wants me to look

19:23at

19:23the site so again that's off market yeah so people know uh we're doing a lot of podcasts people we

19:30get

19:30calls from all over california and i'm again i'm in rochester new york and i get calls from all over

19:35the country people want to either look buy south give me money loan me money whatever yeah and um

19:41we're just open for any idea i love options gotta have options yeah yeah absolutely it is funny how um

19:48you never know where a deal is going to come from i mean they come from just everywhere uh we

19:55actually

19:55just bought so we have a self-storage facility out in indiana um and there was a strip club next

20:00to it

20:00that was hampering our lease up abilities and so we ended up calling the buyer and just buying the strip

20:05club we're turning it into um into a retail location and so you never you know you got to keep

20:11your eyes

20:11open and you got to make moves that you that don't on the surface seem like they're they're gonna work

20:18um because you just really never know what's gonna work out you just gotta be open keep keep churning

20:25the water keep making offers and things just just happen um yeah that is i have a set i have

20:32a set

20:32business plan and set criterias if they don't fit don't do it i move on to the next yep real

20:40simple

20:42awesome man well hey i just took a peek at the clock it looks like we have run it down

20:46so it's

20:46time to jump into the quick question round are you ready yep all right it starts with education it

20:52could be any form could be a book you've read movie you've seen conference you've been to anything like

20:56that i just need two recommendations one for general life wisdom and then one for real estate

21:03well mine's all self-taught self-educated i went out of high school right into business so

21:09before even i got graduated i was in business but um i i joined i joined um uh clubs to

21:17teach me how to

21:18like raise money uh organizations like that uh i i i'm a member of m1 which is a group that's

21:26uh we

21:27have conferences two three times a year that that to me is is is mike mike at 72 that's my

21:34college

21:34education is uh is m1 this is a um a mastermind yeah you got all kinds of people developers most

21:44of them are in multi-family um and uh but i didn't want i wanted to be different and i

21:50was i don't want

21:51the competition so i went to mini storage and again that's easier i don't have to deal with the

21:56plumbering and the leaks and the toilets and mrs smith calling i don't need none of that i don't want

22:01it so been there done that but uh i would recommend people to join peer groups and and at this

22:10stage

22:10yeah yeah absolutely and i have heard um m1 being recommended before so it's uh it's good that you're

22:16recommending here because multiple people recommending it means it's probably has some quality people in

22:21there um moves us on to the next one this is for your younger self if you could go back

22:26to the

22:27david who was just getting started out i think you said in the 70s go back to him look him

22:32in the eye

22:32give him one piece of advice moving forward find your mentor sooner

22:40i found them several of them all along my way but the sooner you find them the more successful

22:47you'll be yeah absolutely and i i also wish that i had uh started earlier it's um or found somebody

22:55to

22:55to mentor or coach me it's amazing you really don't know what you don't know and having somebody who has

23:01already achieved what you're trying to achieve kind of guides you down the path is is irreplaceable

23:06um so i always recommend if somebody does want to get into real estate find somebody to learn with

23:11find somebody who can kind of guide you down that path because there is no other way to do it

23:16you can watch a million youtube videos but you're not gonna it's not going to replace actual

23:22activity in the market actual you know experience from somebody who's done it so

23:27great yeah you make a friend of someone who's very successful that's in the real estate business

23:31and let them be your mentor and i want to tell you something 50 of them will wind up being

23:36your

23:36partner if you show the initiative and the hard work and not and no greed don't care when you get

23:43paid

23:43how much you get paid if you put that in the when you're just starting because you're not entitled

23:49you got to earn it they will 50 of those guys would be your partner absolutely all right next

23:57question is about the u.s it's a big place there is a lot of opportunity out there give me

24:02the single

24:02metro you're most excited about investing in today well i'm happy with upstate new york believe

24:08it or not we're not near any city or anything we're way upstate near rochester buffalo syracuse

24:14i like the ohio market uh i like going down into the skipping over into the carolina markets

24:19it's pretty good um i i am really looking forward to go west uh i think mid mid midwest in

24:26this

24:26country's uh um it's it's it's growing and it's booming and i am looking forward to that

24:34yeah the midwest ohio um we've heard i mean a lot of guys on the show have done it we're

24:39actually

24:39invested out in um well pennsylvania and then out in indiana i like both indian apple is a great

24:46market yeah we're a big fan um leads us on to the next one this is about finding deals you've

24:52already

24:53talked a bit about how you need to have multiple uh feelers in the water you can't just focus on

24:58one

24:58but if you did have to choose your favorite child in terms of generating leads finding deals what

25:04would that be for you

25:08no no it's it goes back to the you know before we had the cell phones and the internet you

25:14drive

25:14down the road look right to left that's you get a plus you get a feel in the neighborhood yeah

25:19you

25:20can get all the stuff you want on the internet and look at all those beautiful pictures and maps

25:24but you don't get the feel until you get on the car and you drive it yeah or you rent

25:28a little

25:29plane or helicopter and fly over it yeah i uh um that is something now that i am seeing more

25:36of the

25:36value in when i first got started i haven't done been in real estate for that long we we i

25:41bought my

25:41first commercial property in 2020 um and so when i first got started i was so into numbers and

25:51demographics and you know i um my previous job i was uh in analytics and in like microsoft and

25:57stuff and so i was really getting into just where is population growth where is you know economic

26:03drivers etc etc and i got so obsessed with that that i would buy locations that were all the numbers

26:10worked but um the actual the corner that i was buying this property on was it just wasn't a good

26:16corner it wasn't where um you know people would want to be and so i now see so much value

26:23so much

26:24more value and actually going to the property looking around seeing what you're seeing um and

26:28asking yourself like is this a place that someone wouldn't want to rent a storage is this somebody

26:32do they feel safe um is it you know a good good location to be in and so yeah i'm

26:37a huge proponent

26:37you know back in the 80s with my mentor back then god rest his soul because they're usually a lot

26:43older

26:43than me now i'm the old guy um we used to rent those four seater planes in florida and just

26:48fly

26:49to find the four corners find a farmer give him give him some money tell him to go do what

26:55he wants

26:55with it just option money and then go find publics or somebody to see if they want to develop a

27:00shopping center but the key thing about all four corners aren't the best artists aren't the same yeah

27:05you know you got to see you got to see that to the corner that people are going to drive

27:08by

27:09first not drive out yeah drive in and and because i've seen people well i like that area but i

27:15don't

27:15want that side of the street i want the other a lot of your national tenants are like that so

27:20um

27:22but you like you said like i said you got to get on boots on the ground man yeah that's

27:29uh that's

27:29cool that you guys so you'd you'd fly over areas and just literally from the top down just look

27:34and see what what uh locations you liked that's good yep good plan i like that um leads us to

27:43the

27:43next question this is about lessons learned not every deal we get into goes the way we expect it

27:48in fact pretty much every time something's gonna go wrong and that's when we get to learn a lesson so

27:53what was the deal that went a little bit sideways for you and then what was the lesson you pulled

27:57from

27:59it um i found the piece of property after i made my first uh score with selling minis i found

28:07an office

28:08building on a very busy street um and i couldn't rent it to save my tail um so and we

28:19you know and i was

28:20invincible i was i think i was 28 years old i just made a million dollars i i can't make

28:24any mistakes

28:26so i chased the down payment to the tune of 300 000 and finally said we better just dump this

28:32thing

28:32somehow and we did so that was that was the uh i don't know i think it was about i

28:39don't think i

28:39was 30 yet yeah but that's that's what you got to do what you find you know you got to

28:43have options

28:44and i didn't have enough options with this this building you got to have options what you're going

28:49to do with something you don't have options uh you could put yourself against the wall and you're

28:54you're screwed yeah yeah and those kind of lessons stick with you if you um you know they burn for

29:01a

29:01long time and that's a good thing because it makes it makes it so like you say now you stick

29:06to your

29:07criteria you do not budget all if it doesn't fit on that that platter that you mentioned the silver

29:12platter then you're just not interested and that type of um discretion and discernment comes from

29:19the experiences that burn and and stick with you so it's uh it's a it's a hard thing when it

29:24happens

29:25but later on it's good because it makes your foundation and your um your ability later on to

29:31be a lot a lot more refined correct and that leads us to the very last question this is for

29:39the

29:39listeners you've given us a lot to think about i'm sure people want to reach out get in contact with

29:43you this is a two-parter where can they find you and then what can they expect when they reach

29:47out

29:49well i have a website which probably it tells all about me i think that's where you start it's it's

29:55david realestatehomes.com um and then that shows you my my email and my phone number and everything else

30:05at the end of the uh the the website if you you know go on down and look at the

30:10whole website

30:11but it shows you when i started at 16 and all this not all but a lot of the stuff

30:15i built throughout

30:15my career nice so that's david realestatehomes.com correct perfect i will put that link in the show

30:24note so if y'all want to reach out all you got to do is click the little more in

30:27the description

30:28it'll pull down that full description and in there you can find david's links

30:33all right man that wraps it up thank you very much for having me thank you thanks buddy sorry

30:39for the the technical problems here but we got through it all good for everybody who's with us

30:45today thank you guys for showing up you are the reason we do this so if you guys have any

30:49questions

30:49reach out to me gabe at the realestateinvestingclub.com if you guys want to support the show just leave

30:54us a comment review anything like that other than that i hope you guys have a great week keep

30:59rocking real estate and i look forward to seeing you on the next episode

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