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Jon and Jim tell you what they believe was the biggest story from the Lions preseason win over the Washington Commanders.
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00:00I will not overreact to preseason football.
00:03I will not overreact to preseason football.
00:04I will not overreact to preseason football.
00:07Good morning, 97-1.
00:09We are going to try to discuss that game.
00:11I like what I saw from the D-line.
00:14Am I allowed to be excited about that?
00:16Top 10 D-line?
00:17Maybe.
00:18Want them with a sack against their first team.
00:20DJ Moore getting a sack to close out the first half.
00:23We're giving guys nicknames on the D-line.
00:26I love this.
00:28I thought that they played well.
00:30And it was just nice to see, other than Hutch,
00:36a majority of those guys that we're going to see on Sundays
00:41playing on Saturday.
00:43And they did seem like they played well together.
00:46It felt like they were stout against the run.
00:49Like they were doing the things that they had to do
00:52to make the defense successful.
00:56And I thought, I mean, Devin White, I think, is a nice pickup.
01:00And I know he's old.
01:01And I know there's some concerns about, you know,
01:03what no one else wanted him.
01:05Why was he available?
01:07He still has terrific knowledge.
01:10Not the player that he was five, six, seven years ago.
01:13But I think he is a huge addition to this defense.
01:16Yeah, I just keep getting excited because I think the D-line
01:19is how this thing gets all tied together.
01:21The O-line gets you in the playoffs.
01:22The D-line is how you make a run in the playoffs.
01:24And I don't know if they're top 10, like PFF suggested.
01:26I want to believe it.
01:28So when I see signs and glimmers,
01:30I get excited because that's what they're going to need to be.
01:33I mean, what stood out to you?
01:35You were at the game.
01:36I don't know if you went back and watched some of the stuff too.
01:37Oh, sure.
01:39And I thought for the first group that was out there,
01:43other than the – someone was out of position when quarterback got
01:51absolutely rocked, Josh Dobbs.
01:54And obviously, I mean, it was called illegal formation.
01:57And so somebody wasn't where they were supposed to be,
02:00which led to him getting absolutely trucked.
02:05Balls on the ground.
02:06But other than that, I'm not going to put that one necessarily
02:09on the offensive line.
02:11Tackle's got to line up where he's going to line up.
02:13He's got to be covered.
02:15And you put somebody else there,
02:16and things completely change for the defense.
02:21I thought that Juice did well at center.
02:25I was excited about that.
02:28And I think – like I said originally,
02:29I think he's going to be the starting center when the season begins.
02:35I'm glad to hear you say it because I thought the same thing,
02:38but it's not my area of expertise the way it is for you.
02:41He played, what, three series?
02:43Yeah.
02:43And I went back and just watched him.
02:46A little spotlight, a little circle.
02:47Okay, well, what's his deal here?
02:49And I thought he did a good job climbing to the second level,
02:51the initial block.
02:53It didn't appear that he ever got really blown off the ball
02:57or beat at any point.
02:58He more than held his own.
03:00And in watching it from the stadium,
03:04and it was kind of confirmed,
03:05it felt like the offensive line was connected.
03:08Like he was doing a good job of identifying where everything was –
03:12where the blocks were supposed to go,
03:14where the protection was set,
03:16and everyone was on the same page.
03:19Now, you get out of that,
03:21and I think Seth McLaughlin will be a fine backup.
03:25I just don't think he is ready for NFL football yet.
03:31Okay.
03:32The biggest question is going to be what happens at left guard.
03:37That, to me, is I'm still on the fence of is it mahogany?
03:41Is it Frazier?
03:42Ultimately, it's probably going to be juice when Cade Mays comes back.
03:47So they bump him over because you've got the right side set.
03:50That's fixed.
03:51And I think Blake Miller did.
03:53There was one block that he had where not everything is going to be perfect.
03:58He gets knocked down.
04:00Maybe he's on a knee,
04:01and he still maintained contact with his defender
04:06and found a way to still get off the ground and make a block.
04:08It wasn't beautiful,
04:10but if you know –
04:13it was a thing of beauty, but not beautiful,
04:15if that makes any sense.
04:16He's got a relentless extra gear to him.
04:18He's got a great drive,
04:19and he's got that I'm never out of the fight mentality.
04:23So I'm not killing Josh Dobbs for the fumble.
04:27You've identified, hey, illegal formation,
04:28guys getting blown up, pocket collapsed.
04:31I am upset at his pick.
04:35So you're a 10-year vet going into your 10th year.
04:39Especially as smart as he is.
04:40You're the past or not, right?
04:42You're like an aerospace engineering genius.
04:45You've been in all these offenses,
04:47including a petting offense a time or two.
04:48You're smart.
04:50Why are we throwing back across the middle of the field?
04:53Especially when –
04:54I can't remember who it was.
04:55Who had the drop just before that?
04:56Was it Tay Martin?
04:57Yeah, it was like an alligator.
04:58Well, he should have laid out for it, right?
05:00Right, and it was one of those where –
05:02and I mentioned it to Jack at the time.
05:04I'm like, he really didn't want to catch that ball across the middle.
05:07But then on the very next play,
05:10Tay Martin is running a crossing route underneath the linebackers wide open.
05:17Like wide ass open.
05:18Now, he might not have been able to convert for a first down,
05:21but you dump the ball off to him and you let a guy go make a play.
05:25Instead, Josh Dobbs decides, I'm not going to throw it to him.
05:28Maybe he doesn't want to throw it to him because he just dropped one.
05:30He wasn't going to go for one.
05:31I don't know why he didn't throw it to him,
05:33but then he extends the play and throws it across his body,
05:36throws an interception.
05:37And I mentioned it to Jack.
05:38I'm like, he had Tay Martin underneath, wide open.
05:41So there's certain things that you can't do.
05:44Like offensive line, never get beat inside, right?
05:46Like there's certain that can never, as a quarterback,
05:49that's got to be the number one thing is do not throw the ball back into the middle of the
05:53field
05:53against the grain into traffic.
05:56Across your body.
05:56Yes.
05:58Like put your head down and get tackled.
06:01Throw the ball out of bounds and punt the ball.
06:02Like that's just like,
06:04I would expect that if that was Luke Altmyer pressing in his very first season,
06:09trying to make a play and win the backup job.
06:12Not a guy who's supposed to know better.
06:16It doesn't.
06:19It's one player that I know you heard the 50 yard touchdown and it's,
06:22but that bothered me because it spoke to,
06:24Oh,
06:25well,
06:26there's a reason he's a backup and not a starting quarterback.
06:29It doesn't,
06:30to me,
06:30it doesn't signal.
06:31Oh,
06:32well,
06:32is Luke Altmyer going to be number two?
06:35No,
06:35it's going to be Josh Dobbs.
06:36No,
06:36I think he'll be just fine.
06:38He's only been in camp for what,
06:39two weeks now.
06:40And yes,
06:41that is a rule that has no,
06:42has no bearing on how long you've been in an offense.
06:45That is just,
06:46you don't do that,
06:47especially in NFL games,
06:49but I think he'll be just fine as a number two quarterback.
06:53If he comes in,
06:53maybe he can get you out of the game.
06:55Maybe he can start one,
06:56but any longer than that,
06:58you're no matter who you bring in,
06:59you're going to be screwed.
07:00You don't want to call Jimmy G?
07:01No.
07:02Okay.
07:02Two,
07:03four,
07:03eight,
07:03five,
07:03three,
07:03nine,
07:0497,
07:0497.
07:05Biggest story from that lions game on Saturday.
07:07If you've got a player you love and a player you're concerned about,
07:10send them in,
07:11text them in,
07:11call us and let us know.
07:13With,
07:13with some of the starters playing,
07:15I was interested to see when Ennis Rake straw was going to get in the game.
07:21And I know that there was some injury concern throughout the course of the week,
07:23obviously coming off the contusion that he had in that first game.
07:28But in the first half,
07:30I think they had told him like,
07:32you're not going in like most of the first half.
07:34He didn't even have his helmet with him.
07:36He was just standing there,
07:38you know,
07:40box of popcorn in his hands and waiting for the second half.
07:44It's concerning because it doesn't feel like he's going to be much of an impact at all.
07:49I'm not going to contribute.
07:50You know.
07:51And,
07:52and I don't know if,
07:53if it's,
07:53if it's to the point where do they move on from him?
07:57Is he going to be a cut?
07:59If,
07:59if he is not in the mix at all,
08:02when you have important players out there,
08:05DJ Reed was out there and longer than I thought he should have been.
08:08Did you see?
08:09He's like doing cartwheels after a play like DJ.
08:13You're the only corner we trust a little bit of an over rotation on that.
08:16Not that I could,
08:17you know,
08:17say much about it.
08:18I'm not doing that,
08:20but you kind of catch your breath.
08:22I think TJ on the call was even like,
08:23Hey,
08:23Whoa,
08:24Whoa,
08:24Hey,
08:25who's the linebacker that tours ACL?
08:26Tullick.
08:27Tullick.
08:27Yeah.
08:28As soon as he's doing that,
08:29I'm going,
08:29no,
08:29no,
08:30no,
08:30no,
08:30no,
08:30no,
08:31no,
08:31no,
08:31no,
08:31please stop.
08:32Yeah.
08:32Not in the preseason.
08:34Text coming in.
08:36I know it's just training camp and preseason,
08:38but I'm so encouraged by the potential of this defensive line and how they could look with the new guys
08:42on the edges,
08:42the resurgence of McNeil and the past two six round picks of Hassanine and Skylar Gill Howard.
08:50They're going to contribute to this team in a significant way.
08:54I think they will,
08:55and they're going to have to.
08:57There's going to be a huge spotlight on the defensive line because you're going to have to get
09:01after the passer.
09:02You can't have,
09:03you can't have a team that is leading the NFL in pressures,
09:09right?
09:10Because if the quarterback has all the time in the world,
09:12eventually you're going to get a pressure,
09:14but he has all the time in the world to sit there and pick apart a secondary that is riddled
09:18with injuries.
09:19That's the thing.
09:20I don't know if either safety is going to be going when the season starts or how they're going to
09:23hold up over the course of the season.
09:25Yeah.
09:25At this point,
09:25I don't think either safety is going to be there week one.
09:27And then will we ever see Kirby?
09:30What does branch look like as he ramps back up?
09:32I mean,
09:32that position requires explosiveness,
09:34the stop and start with him in space.
09:37Those are big concerns that we have.
09:39And then the corner spot,
09:40we just got done saying,
09:40I got DJ Reed and,
09:42and,
09:42and there's certainly some question marks.
09:44I need my D line to bail my secondary out.
09:48I need those guys,
09:49especially if they're playing with a lead,
09:50like think about it.
09:51The lions offense should be one of the best in football.
09:54I'm going to give you a lead.
09:55I'm going to need you to be disruptive up front and help those guys out because otherwise we're going to
09:59play a lot of shootouts and I don't want to be living in those waters.
10:02Right.
10:03And I'm just not sure the secondary looked fine,
10:07but you're not going against,
10:08you know,
10:09I mean,
10:10okay.
10:11Starting quarterback was in there,
10:12but you're just not going against the same caliber of individual of receiver that you're going to face even against
10:19new Orleans.
10:21By the way,
10:21on the D line,
10:22he mentioned Skylar Gil Howard.
10:24Anytime Dan Campbell's giving you a nickname,
10:26you're probably doing something right.
10:28Will Birchfield was writing about this.
10:29He could remember twinkle toes with Aleem McNeil and sun God with Amon Ra sun bleach sun bleach for Skylar
10:38Gil Howard.
10:39Takeaways from the lions fans overreact gyms coming up at seven Oh two.
10:42It's 97 one.
10:42It's 97 one.
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