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00:05How do you deal with the fame?
00:07It's a colossal kind of fame.
00:08Well, yes.
00:09I can't really walk around because I'm getting recognized all the time.
00:14I think that may be because I walk outside of my flat and say,
00:17Hey, everyone, I'm Chandler from France.
00:21He was a comedy actor loved by millions.
00:28I want to bring you some breaking news now from Southern California.
00:31Hollywood is mourning the sudden death of Friends star Matthew Perry.
00:35The 54-year-old found dead at his L.A. home on Saturday.
00:39Authorities say he appeared to have drowned.
00:41If I had written down on a piece of paper when I was 15 years old,
00:44everything I wanted by the time I was 25, I had it.
00:47He had been taking small amounts of ketamine to treat depression,
00:50but when he was found in his hot tub, the levels of the drug in his system were much higher.
00:56I'm a drug addict, so this is what happens to me.
00:58I start thinking about alcohol.
01:00I can't stop.
01:01I can't stop thinking about it.
01:03When Matthew Perry died, the police arrested a woman known as the Ketamine Queen.
01:09The woman dubbed the Ketamine Queen.
01:11The Ketamine Queen.
01:12The Ketamine Queen.
01:13But who is this woman they say killed Matthew Perry?
01:18My name's Amber Hack, and I've come to Los Angeles to find out the truth about Matthew Perry
01:24and the Ketamine Queen.
01:28I'm digging into the life of British-born Jasphine Sanger,
01:32meeting her close friends who've never spoken before.
01:36She didn't need the money.
01:37She was never a kingpin.
01:39She was never a big dealer.
01:40And the officers who investigated Matthew Perry's death.
01:44Knowing that he was spiraling down that hole into deeper addiction,
01:48they continued to supply his drugs.
01:50Why?
01:51Based on greed.
01:52I'll head into LA's toxic world of drugs and fame.
01:56This thing is not for the faint of heart.
01:58It will take so much longer to get three days sober than it will to get three years sober.
02:02Mark my words.
02:03My very first tattoo that I ever got says, no more fucking heroin.
02:06It never stopped me, ever.
02:08And question the official story of how Matthew Perry died.
02:12Mr. Perry died as a result of the acute effects of Ketamine.
02:16I just don't understand the basis of that conclusion.
02:19Just how responsible is this woman who was seduced by the glamour of Hollywood?
02:26I truly believe that Jasphine was addicted to that life of the dealing to celebrities.
02:31People would give anything for that, to taste that.
02:52So they say LA is a sunny place for shady people.
02:58And as a journalist and a podcaster who covers a lot of crime, I know looks can be deceiving.
03:04Why is it that we just can't accept that, like, good-looking people can do bad things?
03:12So when the BBC said they wanted to send me to Hollywood to look into the Ketamine Queen, I jumped
03:18at the chance.
03:21Who is this woman?
03:23She was born in Essex, but how did she end up here?
03:27And how did she become, in the words of prosecutors, a prolific drug dealer to some of the most famous
03:35people in the world?
03:41So right now, Jasphine Sanger is in prison, and everyone in her world is reluctant to talk.
03:47We obviously believe that she lived in this neighbourhood, right?
03:52I'm really intrigued.
03:54So the first thing my producer Jess and I do is head to her old apartment and start asking around.
04:06So I was just speaking with this person and lives in the area, knew Jasphine really well.
04:13And she just said, you know, she was, like, really glamorous.
04:15I can still remember her, like, blonde hair, blue eyes.
04:17She was really quite sweet.
04:19But then she had this side of her that would just, like, not care about the people around her when
04:24she would have these huge parties.
04:26And they feel she never really properly lived here.
04:30That this was almost like a stophouse for her to just deal out of.
04:34Why did they feel that?
04:36Like, did they just not see her that much?
04:39She basically said that she would come and go quite a lot and never really seemed settled.
04:47She also said that they were in when the FBI raids were happening.
04:53Officers uncover a huge stash of drugs.
04:56Ketamine, cocaine, Xanax.
04:59They even find a gun.
05:01Clearly, this wasn't just a party pad.
05:10But what else did police find out about Sanger?
05:13I want to ask the man who led the investigation for the Drug Enforcement Agency.
05:20Yeah?
05:21Yeah, we are ready to go.
05:22Bill, it'd be great to kick off if you could just give me any sort of more insight into some
05:27of the drugs that was found at Jasphine's premises.
05:29She had a large quantity of drugs in her apartment.
05:33She had almost 2,000 fake Adderall pills made with methamphetamine.
05:37Almost 80 vials of ketamine.
05:41In October 2023, when Matthew Perry died, I was the special agent in charge of the DEA's Los Angeles office.
05:47So I was the office head.
05:49Why in all of this case is Jasphine Sanger described as the ketamine queen?
05:54In essence, she's the kingpin, a professional drug dealer with a big supply of drugs.
06:00She had sold ketamine that killed another individual back in August 2019, and she had sold the ketamine that killed
06:06Matthew Perry.
06:07She was running a somewhat large drug trafficking operation catering to the Hollywood elite.
06:14The money gave her the ability to put forth this social media jet-set lifestyle persona.
06:23And that ingratiated her to her clientele.
06:29How long had Jasphine Sanger been running things?
06:33At least since 2019.
06:34We know Sanger has been in the ketamine business since 2019 because the government alleged in the charging documents that
06:41she had killed another gentleman in August of 2019 named Cody McClowry.
06:53Good morning. My name is Martin Estrada, the United States Attorney, based in Los Angeles.
07:00These investigators did a phenomenal job to develop a strong case against not only those who killed Mr. Perry, but
07:09also Mr. McClowry.
07:11Jasphine sounds like a ruthless dealer.
07:14She's being linked to another drug death before Matthew Perry, and she's using the cash from selling drugs to fund
07:22her luxury lifestyle.
07:24From what I can see, her grandparents were fashion retail multi-millionaires from East London, and her parents had ran
07:31a series of KFC franchises.
07:34She went to UC Irvine, a top university, and she did an MBA in London.
07:40So here's what doesn't add on.
07:42Jasphine seems to come from a wealthy family.
07:45No evidence I can find of any previous crimes.
07:49So how does a woman like that end up as the drug kingpin in this case?
07:57So none of Jasphine's friends have ever spoken publicly.
08:02Then I get a breakthrough.
08:05Tony has a conviction for drug trafficking, and he's ready to talk.
08:10Yeah, it's only big here as well.
08:14Great.
08:14Just a little bit of trick charge.
08:16Good.
08:18We're rolling.
08:20So he'll read there.
08:22I think he's going to be so good for that.
08:23It's going to be perfect.
08:26Hey, Tony.
08:27How's it going?
08:28Amber, how are you doing?
08:28Amber, nice to meet you, Amber.
08:29Come on in.
08:30Awesome.
08:30We are just going to chat through here in the living room, actually.
08:36Amber's up here.
08:37It's quite nice.
08:38Okay.
08:39Perfect for you.
08:41Yeah.
08:41It's a lovely seat there.
08:44How are you doing?
08:45Oh, it's great, actually.
08:46Perfect day.
08:48Yeah.
08:49Get confident.
08:51Nice tattoos.
08:52Yeah, that's why I was like, I need to cover him.
08:54My mom would tell me, I need to cover him.
08:58I really appreciate this.
08:59This opportunity to tell my side of the story of who Jasmine really was.
09:05She is not what the media says she is.
09:07She was never a kingpin.
09:09She was never a big dealer.
09:11I just think she was an escape goal.
09:13She came for money.
09:14She didn't need the money.
09:15But she loved doing ketamine, just like all of us.
09:19So can you remember when you and Jasmine first met?
09:23Like, what sort of impression did she make on you?
09:26I guess it first started in the club scene.
09:28My girlfriend got to talking to her and we were, we became like a group of like couple friends.
09:37We would always meet at Avalon's, like a EDM, like after hours spot in LA.
09:44Which, it opened like at 9 and end like 6, 7 in the morning.
09:54We were either taking pills or, you know, doing some ketamine or, you know, just anything that was allowed there.
10:02I guess you could say.
10:08Then we rented, there's a bar across the street.
10:11We rented that out.
10:13So when everybody got out of Avalon, all you had to do was walk across the street to the next
10:18party.
10:24We would have all the best DJs and all the best equipment.
10:28We're like, anywhere we want to do something, we have everything we want, you know.
10:32What about celebrities?
10:33Like, would you guys party with the celebs in town?
10:36Obviously, LA's got a lot of celebrities.
10:39Of course.
10:40And that's what those after-after parties were.
10:43You guys had this nickname, the Kitties, K, because of the ketamine.
10:48Yes.
10:49Yeah, because we like to do ketamine, you know.
10:52Were you guys doing it quite a lot at that point?
10:54Yeah, we were doing it a lot.
10:57I used to love to inject it.
11:00I'm never, it is.
11:02But I remember at that point when we were really into it, we were trying all types of tranquilizer.
11:08We had some rhino tranquilizer from South Africa.
11:12We had a horse tranquilizer.
11:15But I never did the rhino one.
11:19I was like, no, I'm not, I'm not ready for the rhino.
11:30Did anyone in your world know her by that name, the nickname, ketamine queen?
11:34No, that's just what the media said, which is stupid.
11:41It's just ridiculous, like, no one said that.
11:42Because the authorities said this nickname, the ketamine queen, has come from interactions between her and others.
11:50No, I believe they said that just because when they raided her place and she had, like, all these drugs.
11:57So, like, oh, she must be a cartel dealer or, like, she must be a big person, which is totally
12:04false.
12:07And do you have any sense, Tony, of the amount that Jasveen was moving?
12:13Like, what kind of quantities of drugs she was dealing?
12:17No, absolutely not.
12:19I never thought that she'd be the one dealing, you know?
12:22But do we have, do we have access to anything, to everything?
12:27Yes.
12:28Yes, we did, you know?
12:29You know, and was quantity an issue there?
12:32No.
12:33We all had access to everything, you know?
12:36If I didn't have it, then he had it.
12:40If she didn't have it, then I could get it, you know?
12:42And we just did it together.
12:45I'm not exactly shocked that Jasveen and her friends were doing ketamine for fun.
12:51It's become a massive drug in the rave scene here in the States.
12:55This crew clearly partied hard and they had easy access to serious amounts of drugs.
13:02What is surprising, though, is that somehow none of them knew that Jasveen was dealing it on the side.
13:09I'm finding it all a bit hard to believe.
13:12I need to speak to somebody else who knows her well.
13:20Hey, Jasveen.
13:21How are you?
13:22Nice to see you.
13:23Come in.
13:24We're just a bit.
13:27We're just out here on the tarot, so let's see if we can sit and have a chat with a
13:32bit of a view.
13:33That's perfect.
13:41Yeah, we're all safe.
13:42Yeah?
13:44Well, let's just ease into things, really.
13:47So when did you and Jasveen first meet?
13:49Um, it was during, uh, our time at college at UC Irvine.
13:54Um, we both, uh, started attending in 2001.
14:00All our interactions were usually around, like, when we were usually partying together.
14:05She loved to dance and have a good time.
14:08Did she tell you that she was under investigation?
14:11Did you know, like, she'd been arrested?
14:12She hadn't spoken anything about it.
14:15I didn't know anything about, you know, her, her operation or anything like that.
14:20Absolutely nothing.
14:21To some people, they hear drug dealer, they see that quantity of narcotics, and they think,
14:29this is a woman who has ruined people's lives and is profiteering off people's misery.
14:34What kind of person was she?
14:36I don't think she would have wanted these situations to happen for anybody.
14:43She's just somebody that, by nature, I feel like, likes to take care of, like, people and,
14:50you know, just servicing a need.
14:52I don't, she doesn't really have any malice in her heart.
14:55Matthew Perry was loved by people around the world.
14:58And I think some people feel that we need to be careful to not blame him, that he had an
15:04illness
15:04and he was, you know, he had an addiction, basically.
15:08And people feel that the drug dealers took advantage of that.
15:15Like, I don't think that they were the ones that initiated the transaction, though.
15:20And I'm not here to victim blame.
15:22Like, I've heard that Matthew Perry is a great guy.
15:25He was on treatment for, for ketamine, right?
15:27Like, and so, if we think about, like,
15:33someone that has an addictive personality, then why would we put them into a treatment,
15:38knowing that this could be something that they can also abuse?
15:41If you know that this someone is a, is an addict by nature, why introduce them to another substance
15:47that, you know, you know is potentially addictive?
15:52I think that's kind of where we kind of need to focus on where things went wrong.
15:59Josh makes an interesting point.
16:01Matthew Perry's introduction to ketamine didn't come from a street dealer.
16:06He got it prescribed, legally.
16:15Driving through LA, I've been listening to Matthew Perry's autobiography.
16:20He says that he was getting ketamine as a treatment and that it all began in a luxury rehab in
16:27Europe.
16:29I was also doing ketamine infusions every day.
16:32Ketamine was a very popular street drug in the 80s.
16:35There is a synthetic form of it now and it's used for two reasons.
16:39To ease pain and help with depression.
16:43Has my name written all over it.
16:45They might as well have called it Maddie.
16:52So what's really going down in these luxury rehabs?
16:57How common is it for them to give ketamine to people battling addiction?
17:03I've managed to get inside one.
17:06Hey, Nick.
17:07Hi. How are you?
17:09Oh, good.
17:09Good to see you.
17:10Nice to finally meet you.
17:11Yeah, thanks for coming. I appreciate it.
17:12This is so beautiful.
17:15Oh, thanks.
17:15Nick Matthews runs several upmarket rehabs across the whole of Los Angeles.
17:20Well, this is actually our new location.
17:22Okay.
17:22So why don't I show you around a little bit?
17:23Yeah, please.
17:24Yeah.
17:25So here's an example of the rooms, generally two to a room.
17:29Oh, so you have people sharing as well.
17:32Oftentimes, it's actually really good for somebody.
17:35To feel like you're in it together, going through things together that you can relate to
17:39what each other is going through.
17:40Yeah.
17:41Yeah, exactly.
17:43There's very few things more serene than just nature in general.
17:48So being in Malibu, we're so close to the ocean.
17:51Then being up here, it's just lush and green and vibrant.
17:54It's just pure serenity.
17:59How much does it cost to come here, Nick?
18:01Sure.
18:03It can be very expensive.
18:05You can imagine 24-7 operation, fully staffed.
18:08These are not inexpensive places to run.
18:10If you're paying entirely privately, it's about $80,000 for the month.
18:20The first time that Matthew Perry tried ketamine, it was actually in a rehabilitation center.
18:26Do you feel that that was appropriate for him to have received ketamine there?
18:34I can say this.
18:36I can say that I don't believe that I would ever allow one of my residents to start ketamine
18:46therapy while they're here.
18:48The data shows that ketamine therapy can be hugely beneficial for treating depression and
18:55the right candidates.
18:56I know people that swear by it.
18:57And I know physicians that do it remarkably well.
19:01However, ketamine has very high abuse potential.
19:05It is a tranquilizer and it gets you wildly high.
19:08And it's a good high.
19:10It's enjoyable.
19:11I used to abuse ketamine.
19:12So I have kind of an interesting perspective on it.
19:15You can build a habit.
19:17You can become addicted.
19:18It's also something that's readily available on the street.
19:21So you could theoretically go and get a ketamine treatment and it's done correctly.
19:26And you really liked the way that it made you feel.
19:28So then you get a dealer and you start doing it at your house.
19:30And in your mind, you're just continuing the treatment that you already experienced.
19:33Do you think if I was a big time celebrity, I have the money, the power, the fame, that
19:40it's harder to kind of say no to me in some facilities when I say, I want more drugs?
19:47Yeah.
19:48Yeah, I imagine so.
19:49And a lot of that, I think, really boils down to integrity, right?
19:56That's kind of the scariest thing for me, from treatment facilities, from ketamine doctors,
20:02from any doctor in general is, is your integrity as important to you as your bank account?
20:11I really hope so.
20:13And everybody will say yes if you ask him that question.
20:16Nobody is going to admit that it's not the case.
20:19Matthew Perry's own words back this up.
20:22The same luxury rehab that introduced him to ketamine also freely gave him prescription drugs.
20:29What it lacked in fellow sufferers, it made up for an easy availability of drugs,
20:36which again, unfortunately, did not differentiate it from other high-priced rehabs.
20:42I could make millions if I sued these places.
20:46It just seems weird to me that expensive places meant to help you get clean can
20:52end up giving you addictive drugs.
20:57How does it work when you're not paying tens of thousands a week?
21:02I'm heading to a free rehab.
21:05Money and celebrity don't mean anything here.
21:09All right, let me walk you in.
21:12This is one of our male dorms.
21:14They're all kind of set up the same way.
21:17So they are set up dorm living.
21:19In this dorm, they're given the drawers.
21:22They're given access to a room to hold their clothes, hygiene.
21:27In there, we have their bathroom and shower.
21:29They're given a washer and dryer.
21:31So they have all the amenities that they need to be able to live.
21:35All their basic needs are provided through us.
21:38I wanted to also introduce you guys to Brandon.
21:41Hey, Brandon.
21:42It'd be great to talk to you.
21:45So, Brandon, how have you been doing?
21:46Uh, I've been, I've been okay.
21:48I've, I've done this a bunch of times.
21:50This is probably my 20th something program.
21:55Okay.
21:55Um, it's a great program.
21:58Does Los Angeles have a drug program?
21:59Oh, my God.
22:01Okay, that was pretty sick.
22:03It's a, it's, uh, it's become a really, like, terrible place.
22:07Do you relate to anything that Matthew Perry went?
22:10Uh, yeah, yeah.
22:11He's, uh, he was doing a lot of ketamine and he thought that, you know, um, oh, this way
22:15might, like, might fix me or whatever.
22:18And I, I relate to that a lot.
22:19And, and, you know, he, he was, he was just one of us.
22:22He was, he was a drug addict and, and, um, you know, he came from a different background,
22:26but, but that addiction doesn't discriminate.
22:32So it's hard to picture Matthew Perry here, but would he have found it more difficult to get drugs?
22:40One of the problems with the high-end programs is that they almost coddle the patients and people
22:44feel, people feel like that they don't have any, they don't have to suffer or feel any of the
22:49consequences of their addiction or alcoholism. And I think it's important for people to have
22:53some consequences to this behavior. In his book, one of the things Matthew Perry
22:58describes actually was an instance when he went to rehab. They gave him pretty heavy painkillers.
23:04Under 1800 milligrams of, uh, hydrocodone. That's what he says in the, in the book.
23:09Yeah. That's how much it goes on.
23:10What do you think about that?
23:11I don't know how you get that much. I mean, it, it only comes in a 10 milligram pill. I,
23:15I don't know how you get that much in you. I mean, he must have been swallowing just
23:18handfuls of pills all day long. Do you think he should have been given that amount of that kind
23:23of drug? Well, no. I mean, that's well beyond what anybody recommends giving. I don't know what he was,
23:27it was basically, he's just given that much to, to feed an addiction to keep him from going into
23:31withdrawal. And if I was one of your patients here, I come to you and say, Dr. Holmes,
23:37just one more time, please let me have what I want. What are you going to say to me?
23:43You mean have what you want? Would you like, would you like more drugs?
23:45Yeah, if I come to you and say, I would say, you would say no. No is a complete sentence.
23:52In rehab, Matthew Perry says he was getting ketamine infusions every day,
23:57but from what I'm hearing in his book, he didn't actually enjoy it.
24:01Taking K is like being hit in the head with a giant happy shovel,
24:06but the hangover was rough and outweighed the shovel. Ketamine was not for me.
24:13We now know that he didn't quit ketamine. Looking into the police reports,
24:19even after he leaves rehab in 2021, Matthew Perry continued ketamine therapy.
24:26Not from rehabs now, but from ketamine clinics. And here's the thing about LA, I see them everywhere.
24:37Oh, I reckon that might be the one you know. Really?
24:41We have a look up. It's actually not that expensive compared to the other ones.
24:46So you're seeing a hundred dollars a session?
24:55So how easy is it to get ketamine in one of these places?
25:03I believe there is a place for ketamine in the wellness world if done correctly,
25:10if given at appropriate doses, not high doses, and if people are screened correctly.
25:20Anybody that is going through something, it doesn't have to be chronic depression or lifelong
25:24depression, but going through, for example, a divorce, losing their job, not being able to find a
25:30job. A lot of these type of people can benefit from ketamine because they can offer new perspectives
25:35and new motivation.
25:42For somebody like Matthew Perry, you know, self-confessed had a history of substance abuse,
25:49struggled with addiction for many years of his life.
25:53Why was ketamine therapy an appropriate thing for him to have had?
25:57Ketamine was appropriate for Matthew Perry for multiple reasons. I believe he had chronic pain
26:02pain from multiple abdominal surgery. So ketamine does help with chronic pain. And ketamine can also,
26:09for lack of a better phrase, make a person even keeled.
26:13Do you think Matthew Perry was addicted to ketamine?
26:16I do believe he was addicted to ketamine only because he was paying whatever needed to be paid
26:22to get it from someone who was giving him unlimited amounts of ketamine. I don't believe the act of going
26:29to a ketamine clinic played a role in his addiction because certain ketamine clinics could have just
26:34given him limited doses and limited infusions per month. And that would not have contributed to
26:41addiction. That would have been therapeutic. This clinic is working within the guidelines.
26:48But according to a police report, Matthew Perry had been getting ketamine treatment every other day.
26:57Matthew Perry sought treatment for depression and anxiety and went to a local clinic where he became
27:03addicted to intravenous ketamine. Matthew Perry's drug use was out of control. He needed help.
27:15By 2023, Matthew Perry has been using ketamine for three years. In the spring, he's told by one of his
27:24doctors that he no longer needs ketamine therapy for his depression. It could have been his chance to
27:32quit the drug. But Matthew Perry was an addict and he was vulnerable. Addicts are not bad people.
27:41We're just people who are trying to feel better. But we have this disease. When I feel bad, I think,
27:48give me something that makes me feel better. It's as simple as that. Instead, he goes looking for doctors
27:56who were prepared to feed his growing ketamine addiction. What do we know about the weeks leading
28:02up to when Matthew Perry died? What was going on in his life at the time? It was tragic. That's
28:09really
28:09the best way to describe it. It was spiraling down deeper into addiction. His personal assistant,
28:16Kenneth Iwamasa, someone who worked for him for 25 years, that person enabled him, injected him with
28:22ketamine, went out and found sources of the drug and actually supplied the drug to Matthew Perry.
28:27Six weeks before his death, it was a couple of doctors, Dr. Mark Chavez and Dr. Salvador Plasencia.
28:34And how they would operate was Chavez would obtain the ketamine either by ordering it from a wholesaler
28:40and falsifying some of the information on the order form or he would write bogus prescriptions for the
28:46drug and get those prescriptions filled. Two individuals that took an oath to do no harm,
28:52to protect patients above all else, they were actually abandoning their ethics for the dollar.
28:58You know, they'd given up their ethics in return for making a buck off Matthew Perry when he needed
29:04their help the most. And there's an incident involving one of these doctors just weeks before
29:09Matthew Perry's death. On October 12th, 2023, Salvador Plasencia injected Matthew Perry and he had what
29:17I would think is a near fatal overdose. He lost the ability to talk and move and his blood pressure
29:24spiked.
29:26Plasencia was charging huge amounts of money for this ketamine. I mean, it was price gouging. It was
29:33really an exploitive relationship. At one point, Plasencia even text messaged Dr. Chavez and say
29:41something to the effect, let's see what we can get this moron to pay. I mean, that goes to show
29:47you that
29:48this was not a doctor-patient relationship, right? This was a drug dealer who's trying to exploit a victim,
29:54an addict. The corrupt doctor-celebrity relationship has been an open secret here for years.
30:03But getting people to talk is tough. I need someone who understands this world from the inside.
30:23I grew up watching Brandon Novak on wild MTV shows like Jackass and Viva La Bam. He couldn't be more
30:32different now though, running sober living centres. Hey, Brandon. Hey, how are you? Amber, good to see you.
30:39You made it.
30:45What's happening, everybody? Good morning, good morning. How are we feeling? How are we doing today?
30:52This thing is not for the faint of heart. It will take so much longer to get three days sober
30:56than it
30:57will to get three years sober. Mark my word. I was a homeless heroin addict that lived in abandoned
31:03houses, right? My days were spent standing on the corner of prostituting my body. My nights were
31:10spent sleeping in a shooting gallery in West Baltimore. You know, I didn't have any things
31:14except at the end, all I owned was eight scarves, two jackets, three socks, a stick of deodorant,
31:22a needle, a spoon and a restraining order. Nowadays, Brandon lives a much more chilled life.
31:36In the woods with his cats. Did you ever try ketamine? Yeah, I loved ketamine. I used to get
31:43ketamine from a crooked veterinarian. Having people who just say yes to you all the time,
31:51was that a reality for you as a celebrity being surrounded by yes people? You know,
31:57I had the ability to be connected with specific doctors who, you know, would write me the scripts
32:04that I need. I would play up who I was to get what I wanted. So it was always kind
32:11of like,
32:12I'm this guy from those movies that is, you know, really busy and I have kind of a successful life
32:18going on and this isn't what I would normally do. But right now, I just am really sore from a
32:24thing
32:24that we filmed and it should be airing next month. You know, just kind of dropping these subtle hints
32:29to a doctor who's just like, oh wow, I have this guy here. And there is some truth to what
32:34I'm saying
32:35because like, I am who I am. So it's not like I'm lying. So they were definitely a bit more
32:41generous
32:41with the pad to write it. And then once you get into that world, you kind of find the crooked
32:45doctors
32:46who you just go and you sit down and they don't move from their chair and they kind of have
32:51a script
32:51that they follow and they just write you what you want. It's a cash ran business only so they don't
32:56ask
32:56any questions. You pay and you get. Do you think when you are rich and famous,
33:03it can make it more complicated because you do have the money? One billion percent. Absolutely.
33:09There's two different worlds and you're not going to understand it until you've experienced it.
33:14You know, there's not repercussions to be had like it would be for a normal person, quote unquote.
33:23Brandon showed me that if you're famous, some doctors are happy to get you high instead of giving you help.
33:30But Matthew Perry's doctors, they get greedy. Placentia and Chavez are charging up to $2,000 of vial.
33:42He now needs a cheaper source. And this is when he finds the Ketamine Queen.
33:54By the 2020s, Jasmine's hard partying lifestyle is starting to catch up with her.
34:01With all these years that everyone in your group was taking drugs, did anyone go to rehab? Did anyone
34:09try to get clean or did it become a problem at any point for people? I know Jasmine did.
34:14OK, so there was a period of time where Jasmine herself went to rehab. Do you know for a drug
34:21addiction?
34:23I'm pretty sure that or alcohol. And yeah, her family knew something was happening.
34:27You know, they found her with drugs and they sent her to rehab, but she could afford,
34:32or her family could afford like the best ones, you know, the ones where all the celebrities are at.
34:37Jasmine's lawyer has denied she ever met Matthew Perry, but she was starting to move in some of
34:43Hollywood's most exclusive celebrity circles.
34:46She wouldn't be at the normal clubs, you know. She'd be on a different level now.
34:54The Hollywood Hills, you know, off Sunset Boulevard, trendy, you know, little restaurants,
35:00hangouts where celebrities are at. And I was happy for her. I'm like, hell yeah, girl.
35:07Do what you got to do. That's awesome, you know?
35:09Did she enjoy that?
35:10Who wouldn't? You know, if you could be friends with like a certain actor that
35:13you would see on TV every day and that's really famous, like, why wouldn't you enjoy being around?
35:19And why do you think these celebrities liked to have Jasmine around?
35:24Well, she has access to what they don't, you know?
35:27What is that?
35:28Like, it could be, it could be any jokes because, you know, we come from the,
35:33from the after hour scenes. So the people that we know from different grimy parts,
35:37so ever where we could get, we had access with these drugs because we know this person,
35:43this person, this person. Jasmine talked about going to her scientist
35:48and that she would have very pure stuff.
35:51Yeah. Scientist is just a code name for being the veterinary, you know, that, that'd be the scientist.
35:59Now with fentanyl going around, like, we wanted to go to the source where, where it's, where it's the
36:04most pure because this is what I'm putting in my body. I'm not gonna take, I'm not gonna take,
36:08take that chance, right? So, you know, the easiest way where, especially I know it's in Mexico,
36:14you know, uh, vanares or pharmacies, um, in Mexico.
36:19Would Jasmine do that?
36:22No, I, I, I, I wouldn't know of that, of, of Jasmine doing that. But do we have access?
36:28Do we have people that did it? Yes.
36:31So it sounds like from what you're saying that Jasmine's knee deep at this point,
36:37she's dealing to the stars. Was she still getting high intake in the drugs herself though?
36:43Um, yeah, I'm pretty, yes, pretty sure. Because that's what you'd like to do,
36:49you know? And since you have like abundance and you're not, it doesn't cost you anything because
36:56everybody is paying for it really, because they're, you're charging them.
37:01What I just don't get though, is if Jasmine had it all already in terms of money,
37:08good family, good education, why would she risk it all doing this?
37:14That's what blows my mind as well. Uh, I would have, out of all of our circle group,
37:19I would have never thought Jasmine would be dealing, you know? Uh, if I have put myself in her shoes,
37:25I would say, uh, if, uh, even if she wasn't say a celebrity asked her, uh, you know, I could
37:32get a
37:34whatever, even if I wasn't a dealer, like I'll turn a dealer right there. I'll turn into a dealer
37:38right there for you. I think what, what she got addicted to is being in that role, being that in
37:44that social status, being that the go to the dealer, you know, for these people.
37:49So you think really Jasmine was addicted to the high of dealing to these celebrities?
37:58Yes. Thousand, thousand percent. I truly believe that Jasmine was, uh, addicted to that life of the
38:06dealing to the celebrities, because that's a high in itself. You know, wanting to be wanted by someone
38:12with that status that everybody knows that is, you would, you'd want to do anything for that person.
38:20By October 2023, Matthew Perry's addiction had met Jasmine's supply.
38:28Through Eric Fleming, a middleman, Sanger provides Iwamasa with over 50 vials of ketamine.
38:36Dr. Plasencia, meanwhile, keeps trying to push his drugs onto Perry's assistant.
38:44I know you mentioned taking a break. I've been stocking up in the meanwhile.
38:49A day later, Iwamasa injects Perry at least three times.
38:55And after the third injection, at approximately 1.30pm, Iwamasa leaves Perry alone in the house
39:04for more than two hours.
39:15The actor Matthew Perry, best known as Chandler from Friends, has died.
39:19Police responded to a 911 call at seven minutes past four local time.
39:27The 54-year-old actor was found in a hot tub at his home in Los Angeles.
39:32He'd taken the drug ketamine.
39:40I'm going to meet a man who knew Matthew Perry for almost his entire life.
39:46I would never have gotten anywhere, perhaps, without Greg Simpson casting me in my very first play.
39:53You never know where one thing will lead.
39:59Hi, Greg.
40:01You're here, Greg.
40:01I'm out, I'm out.
40:03Are you too late?
40:04Yes?
40:04Yes!
40:35My life is, I'm a drug addict.
40:37If I have a drink, I can't stop.
40:40So this is what happens to me.
40:42I start thinking about alcohol.
40:43I can't stop.
40:44I can't stop thinking about it.
40:46Somebody needed to grab hold of him and shake him and say,
40:51what are you trying to do here?
40:53Remember the feeling that you had when he was on stage in grade seven.
41:00That's the feeling that you want to keep, a feeling of excellence.
41:05Who underneath it all do you think Matthew really was?
41:09Did he stand out from all the other kids you'd seen before?
41:13When I first met Matthew, it was in grade seven, dramatic arts.
41:18And I was doing improv.
41:21I thought he was excellent.
41:24That's what I said to him.
41:25I said, you know, have you ever thought about auditioning?
41:28Would you be willing to have a look at this part?
41:31So he did.
41:32And according to Matthew's own words, that made him realize that acting,
41:37that's what he wanted to do.
41:39That this was a place that he could say was he belonged.
41:47How often would you speak or stay in contact?
41:50Probably once or twice every couple of years.
41:55Whenever he was up, he would come by.
41:59So he would just turn up sometimes to see you drop by?
42:02Yeah, absolutely.
42:03What was it like for you reading his book and seeing and understanding some of those things?
42:09I didn't like it.
42:10Oh, okay.
42:11I found myself tearing up a little bit.
42:15Because to me, Matthew was a great kid.
42:20And I've got nothing to say that's not good about him.
42:25I believe that.
42:27When he was suffering, he could easily be exploited.
42:31No question about it.
42:34Five people have been charged in connection with the death of the Friends star, Matthew Perry.
42:42The doctors, Plasencia and Chavez, pleaded guilty to supplying Matthew Perry with ketamine.
42:50His assistant, Kenneth Iwamasa, along with Jasveen Sanga and her associate, Eric Fleming,
42:57were also charged with causing Perry's death.
43:01By June this year, all of them had pleaded guilty except one, Sanga.
43:07Her lawyer argued there was no way of knowing whose ketamine killed Matthew Perry.
43:12This theory that the so-called fatal dose is somehow linked to my client is absolute garbage.
43:22And online, I started seeing speculation and confusion around the official cause of death.
43:28Was the ketamine actually responsible?
43:36So much of the reporting around Matthew Perry's death has suggested he died of a ketamine overdose.
43:43The Friends star died after an overdose of the drug ketamine.
43:46When he was found in his hot tub, the levels of the drug in his system were much higher.
43:51And his medical examiner's report states that he died from the acute effects of ketamine.
43:59This suggests that the drug alone killed him.
44:03But further down, it says that a contributing condition is also drowning.
44:09How did he actually die?
44:11Did the ketamine kill him?
44:15I need to try and answer some of these questions, so I'll reach out to a toxicologist at one of
44:21America's top hospitals.
44:24This is Matthew Perry's autopsy report. I know you have had a read of this before.
44:29If we could just break stuff down, go through it, you give your opinion on what you read here, that
44:35would be great.
44:37So this medical examiner concluded that the cause of death was acute effects of ketamine.
44:47And that's their words.
44:48And they stated that other conditions contributing, but not related to the immediate cause of death,
44:55were drowning, coronary artery disease, buprenorphine effects.
45:01My interpretation is that his death was a result of drowning because he took ketamine, sadly,
45:13in a pool and lost consciousness. To me, I would have expected to see that the cause of death was
45:22from
45:23drowning or drowning caused by ketamine use in a pool.
45:28So let's say Matthew Perry had been laid that night in his bed or on his sofa, let's say,
45:35instead of being in that hot tub. Is it your opinion that he would still be alive?
45:41Yes. I think more likely than not, he would still be alive.
45:47If Kenneth Iwamasa hadn't left Matthew Perry, he might still be alive.
45:56But does this actually change anything for Jasveen?
46:03The only way to get answers is to ask the people bringing the case against her.
46:10Good morning. My name is Martine Estrada, the United States Attorney...
46:14And I've got a meeting with the man leading it, Martine Estrada.
46:20I wanted to talk to you about a conversation that I've had with a respected clinical toxicologist
46:26who has reviewed Matthew Perry's autopsy report. He says he believes it is a mistake to say that
46:33Matthew Perry died of the acute effects of the ketamine. And in fact, in his opinion,
46:39he feels certain that Matthew Perry drowned and that ketamine was a contributing factor in his death
46:45rather than the primary cause. What do you make of his opinion?
46:50I really can't comment on his opinion because I haven't reviewed his report or the basis for his
46:56report. I know that the reports we relied on did find that Mr. Perry died as a result of the
47:04acute
47:04effects of killing. That being said, as a legal matter, it doesn't matter. Because for a prosecution,
47:10all that's required to be proved is that if not for the distribution of the ketamine, the death would
47:18not have occurred. Here, there's no question, whether it be drowning, whether it be the acute
47:23effects of ketamine, that the distribution of ketamine to Mr. Perry was the cause of his death.
47:30Moreover, I want to make the point that we discovered through this investigation that Ms.
47:35Sonia was not a first-time drug dealer. She'd been doing this for many, many years. In fact,
47:42several years before Mr. Perry's death, she distributed ketamine to another victim, Cody McClory.
47:49He's not famous. He's not well known. But nonetheless, his life matters too. And for that reason,
47:56we specifically named him in the indictment to make sure that his family would get some justice as well.
48:02And in Cody's case, how did the prosecution determine that the ketamine that Josephine
48:07Sanger had supplied ultimately resulted in his death? We learned from telephone records,
48:14from text messages about the distribution to Mr. McClory. We also learned from messages that his
48:21sister had sent to Ms. Sonia that she was in fact told that Mr. McClory died as a result of
48:28ketamine.
48:30The prosecution's view is firm. Whether Matthew Perry drowned or the ketamine alone killed him,
48:38it doesn't matter, legally. But what about the claim that Jasmine's drugs killed Cody McClory?
48:46I'm taking Cody's autopsy report to toxicologist Andrew Stahlbach.
49:05So let's just go through what this report shows about how Cody died.
49:10Yeah, so we're looking at Cody McClory's autopsy report. And so what you see on the top line, it says
49:16the death is ascribed to acute ketamine, heroin, methamphetamine and cocaine toxicity.
49:24So this medical examiner in this case is saying that they're all equal.
49:30They're saying that Cody McClory died of an accident and it's listing four different
49:35types of drugs here as the primary cause of death. Do you agree with that?
49:40I would have attributed this death primarily to heroin.
49:45Why?
49:46Heroin's an opioid and opioids are involved in nearly all overdose deaths. The vast majority of
49:55overdose deaths. On the autopsy, which is like the post-mortem physical exam, they find a bilateral
50:03pulmonary congestion and edema. So it's fluid in your lungs. And that is a finding that can be typically seen
50:10with opioid overdose. And what you'll see here is that the heroin is within range of what would
50:15typically be, could be attributed to somebody's death. Whereas the ketamine, the methamphetamine,
50:23and the cocaine, actually it was a cocaine metabolite. All those were lower than what you're
50:27typically seeing in deaths attributed to those. So I think for me, the combination of those three things
50:32makes the heroin really the main cause of death here.
50:36So in your opinion, did Cody McClory die of a ketamine overdose?
50:40You know, in my opinion, this is an opioid overdose in somebody that was also using ketamine.
50:50Whatever part Jasmine played in the death of Cody McClory, we know what happened next.
50:57Jasmine was sent a text by Cody McClory's sister saying her ketamine had killed him.
51:05She carried on selling drugs anyway.
51:08Did Jasmine ever talk to you about what happened with Cody McClory?
51:13No. If I was there, I wouldn't tell anybody either. Or even people that I love. You know?
51:22But that should have been a red flag. Then that should have been a wake-up call when like,
51:27oh, this is serious. Like, she was dealing with the devil.
51:38The news about Cody McClory's death doesn't help Jasmine's reputation, especially at a key
51:45moment when she is saying that she's innocent in the Matthew Perry case.
51:52Then, nine months after his death, another significant blow.
51:58Eric Fleming, the man who delivered Jasmine's ketamine to Kenneth E. Womasa, pleads guilty.
52:06The most damning evidence would have been the statements of Eric Fleming.
52:11Without a doubt, if he were to testify and describe in detail every drug transaction,
52:18every time he went and picked up ketamine from Tsangha and delivered it to Iwomasa
52:22to be injected into Matthew Perry, I think it's very difficult to overcome that kind of in-person testimony.
52:30A woman known as the Ketamine Queen has admitted providing drugs that contributed to the death
52:38of the Friends TV star, Matthew Perry.
52:50Jasmine Tsangha faces 65 years in prison, the longest potential sentence of anyone involved.
52:58She's always accepted responsibility. The biggest hurdle in this case has always been
53:05that, from my standpoint at least, I thought the government was turning the responsibility
53:14in this case on its head. Why is she in custody and the people, whether it's medical professionals
53:24or the people who were administering the drug, are out?
53:31Dr. Mark Chavez forged prescriptions and together with Plasencia, he charged Perry almost 10 times the
53:40price of Tsangha's ketamine. He's facing 10 years. Dr. Salvador Plasencia texted,
53:48I wonder how much this moron will pay. He injected Matthew Perry until he lost consciousness and he
53:56was still trying to push it on him a day before he died. He has received 30 months.
54:06Hey Alison, I'm Amber. Good to see you.
54:10Alison Margolin is a defence attorney here in LA who specialises in drug cases.
54:18I don't think that the sentence exposure reflects her culpability at all. The U.S.
54:24attorney isn't really, they're not making a moral analysis of culpability. They're charging the
54:30maximum they can and whoever fits the bill they'll go for. But I do think there's a difference between
54:36doctors in a caretaking position who are profiting off of a patient that they know is a drug addict
54:42and providing them with substances they know can cause. Like this thing that happened with Matthew
54:48Perry, I think most doctors who are in this realm know that that's something that's foreseeable.
54:54That's not, the foreseeability of it is not an issue in terms of the law, but in terms of morally,
54:58I think that's an issue. Who is most responsible for Matthew Perry's death?
55:06If you looked at the media reports, you would think Jasmine Sangha. She's the ketamine queen.
55:12But the reality is she had no relationship with Matthew Perry. She didn't live in the same house
55:17with Matthew Perry. She hadn't been with him for 25 years. She hadn't seen his struggles with addiction
55:22and maintaining sobriety. And really, she'd never taken an oath to do no harm to patients as the two
55:29doctors did in this case. I feel like the two most culpable individuals in this case are the doctors.
55:35Because knowing that he was battling addiction, knowing that he was going spiraling down that hole
55:40into deeper addiction, they continued to supply his drugs. Why? Based on greed. And I think that's a part
55:48that's been lost on this case is yes, Sangha's a drug dealer, a sizable drug dealer. But still,
55:54the doctors and the live-in assistant knew this person and could have done something just on a
55:59human level to help this person when he was in need. Before I leave, I want to visit Matthew Perry's
56:13neighbors so I can see the place where he spent his final moments.
56:23Hello. Hi, Bella. Hi, Peter. How are you doing?
56:27I'm doing well. Amber, good to see you. Wow. This, this is spectacular.
56:41And nobody really bothers anybody here. No, there's a perfect place. If he was looking
56:46to have a beautiful place that's quiet, and you know, like we were not the kind of person who would
56:52ever, we knew who he was, but we weren't ever gonna bother him. And people are sophisticated here. It's kind
56:59of a very nice place to live. If you don't want to be bothered, you want to enjoy the quiet
57:03and the beauty.
57:06You know, you can tell it's somewhere you move to have like a little oasis of calm, which is an
57:12escape from the madness of LA. You know, this is a nice neighborhood and he was no different. He was,
57:18we saw him a couple of times and he was both, you know, he was, he was a good guy,
57:24you know,
57:24and it's tragic that he died so early. Um, so it just seems like a tragedy, you know.
57:49After weeks in LA, something has become clear. Jasmine Sanga is a drug dealer and she is responsible for
57:58Matthew Perry's death, but she isn't the only one. He was enabled by corrupt doctors who kept giving him
58:06drugs and an assistant who abandoned him at his most vulnerable. Matthew Perry had a lifelong struggle
58:14with addiction. And he deserved better from the people around him.
58:25But I'm so lonely, so lonely
58:35When everything dies, can you stay with me?