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00:00She says that I call her a drunk?
00:02That's after she got her ass beat.
00:03Heather had been talking behind my back.
00:05We all talk behind each other's back.
00:08Let's talk about that.
00:13Welcome back to Tea Time.
00:14I am so delighted that the guest of the tea party this week is none other than Tamara Judge.
00:19You are someone who knows how to spill some tea.
00:22Oh, are we spilling tea?
00:23I think so.
00:24Can I tell you how the game works?
00:26Sure.
00:26Okay, so these pastries right here, they are very fake, but the questions here...
00:32They're fake?
00:32They are fake, so you can't eat them.
00:33Why was that?
00:34It's not a cannoli?
00:35What is that thing?
00:36It's a macaroon.
00:37Why is it so shiny?
00:38Well, because it's plastic, Tamara.
00:40That looks really good.
00:41They do look good, but what happens is you're going to pick one of these fake pastries,
00:45and it corresponds to a real question that I have for you here on these cards.
00:49I love this.
00:50You can either answer the question if you want, but if it's a little bit too spicy and you don't
00:54feel like answering,
00:54you just take a sip of your tea.
00:55But please pick one right now so we can get the game started.
00:59Oh, I kind of wanted to eat this one, so...
01:01Okay, that's a good one.
01:03That is so good.
01:05Mmm, look at that.
01:06Okay, I'll take that from you.
01:08Okay, so this is fun.
01:11Okay.
01:11Out of 10, how would you rate Newbie Carmela's first season as a housewife?
01:15Oh, okay, this is an easy one.
01:18I haven't really seen the whole season, obviously, but I think I would say like maybe like an 8 because
01:25she's so sweet and kind that I kind of feel like she needs to stick up for herself a little
01:31bit more.
01:32Okay, it seems like she does, from what we've seen in the trailer at least, stand up to Vicky, the
01:36OG of the OC.
01:37That's after she got her ass beat.
01:39Oh, after she got her ass beat.
01:40Who beats her ass?
01:41Vicky.
01:41Oh, okay.
01:42Yeah.
01:42So do you think that the way she came for Vicky was substantiated by what Vicky had done to her?
01:47Yes.
01:48Okay.
01:48Yes.
01:48All right.
01:49So, I mean, I think she's great.
01:50I feel like, you know, she's just only going to get better.
01:54Gotcha.
01:54Only going to get better.
01:55And I've watched the first three episodes in her home scenes are amazing.
01:59I love it.
02:00So maybe a 9.
02:01Okay, that's high praise coming from Tamra Judge.
02:03I'm obsessed.
02:03Okay.
02:04She has it in her.
02:04That's what I'm saying.
02:05I love that.
02:06I love that for her.
02:06And I love that for the viewers of the Real Hotels of Orange County.
02:10I'm tired of having Newbies come in and leave.
02:12Yeah, I know that sucks.
02:14So hopefully she can stick around.
02:16Let us pray.
02:17Hopefully I can stick around too.
02:18Right, no.
02:19You're going to be around forever.
02:20You're on my Mount Rushmore of Housewives, by the way.
02:23Oh, thank you.
02:23I love that.
02:24I can't imagine the franchise without you.
02:26All right, let's choose another pastry.
02:28Okay.
02:29Let's do this one.
02:30What was going through your mind when Jen Pajoranti told you Heather Dubrow was talking a little bit of smack
02:35behind your back?
02:37Uh-huh.
02:37Yeah.
02:38A lot.
02:39A lot.
02:39A lot.
02:39I sat down with Heather, and when she talked about you, she just very much said she puts you in
02:44a box, and she can compartmentalize her friend.
02:49So I was getting ready to leave, and I got, oh, someone wants to talk to you.
02:54I said, oh, God, what do I do now?
02:56So I went over there, and Jen proceeded to tell me that Heather had been talking behind my back, and
03:02then after the reunion, there was a lot to be said, and there was a few things that was going
03:06on in my mind.
03:07Okay?
03:07One was, me and Jen are not that close, so why is she giving me this information?
03:13I'm no dummy.
03:14And the second one was, we all talk s*** behind each other's back.
03:18Right.
03:18Right?
03:19Yeah.
03:19Like, how bad was this s*** talking, right?
03:22Yeah.
03:22So I, um, I didn't know what to think.
03:25That's why I feel like the first time ever in my life, I'm like, let me think about this, and
03:29I will get back to you.
03:30That was very different for you.
03:32You really wanted to take that moment to reflect, because I do think also just as a viewer of this
03:37show, and knowing what I think I know about your relationship with Heather, it's been up, it's been down, but
03:42you really care about it.
03:44Yeah, yeah, I know, I love her, she's one of my dear friends, and, um, you know, you see in
03:48this week's episode, I'm like, why do you talk about me like I'm a serial killer?
03:53I'm not a serial killer, okay?
03:56No, I know, like, that is kind of crazy, though.
03:59Like, Tamara just is not a serial killer.
04:01I'm not, I swear.
04:02PSA.
04:03Do you, do you trust Jen?
04:05I mean, what do you think her intentions were, you know, behind sharing that information with you?
04:10Was it methodical?
04:11Was, I mean, what was the real reason?
04:13No, at that moment, right there, I, a million things, I'm thinking, why is she doing this?
04:19Is she baiting me?
04:20Is she lying?
04:22Is she being kind?
04:24Does she want to be my friend now?
04:25Like, I, I was so confused.
04:27Yeah.
04:27And later on, you'll see, like, she says, well, I said everybody.
04:30I go, no, you mostly said Heather.
04:32Yeah.
04:32It wasn't, like, then she tried to backtrack.
04:34I think it's in this week's episode.
04:35And she's like, well, I said everybody.
04:37I'm like, no, it was mostly, you were saying Heather.
04:39It was definitely about Heather.
04:40Yeah, so something went down, and to this day, I do not know what went down.
04:44After the reunion, they went to dinner, and I was not invited.
04:48Oh, gotcha, man.
04:49Where was Andy on the cameras for that dinner?
04:51He was consoling me in my trailer.
04:54Oh, that's right.
04:54Yes.
04:55Yeah.
04:55That was a rough reunion for you.
04:56Mm-hmm.
04:57Do you think this reunion for this season will be a little bit easier for you?
05:01Who knows what they'll pull out of their ass?
05:02Oh, God, okay.
05:03Who knows?
05:03No, I think at this point, this season, I think it's going to be one of my easier reunions.
05:10Oh, I love that for you.
05:10It depends on what I do now, between now and the reunion.
05:13True, true.
05:15Okay, let's pick another treat.
05:16Okay, let's do this little shiny.
05:19Oh, okay.
05:20This one's interesting.
05:22Okay, so on the show, you and Shannon are re-engaged in a feud, this time over your fight that
05:29you
05:29had at The Quiet Woman while filming the next season of Girls Trip.
05:32Would you say this is the worst fight you and Shannon have ever had?
05:36No.
05:37Okay, so what are the lingering misconceptions about this scuffle at The Quiet Woman?
05:41Was it that bad?
05:43I didn't think it was that bad.
05:46It was...
05:48She says that I call her a drunk.
05:50I don't remember calling her a drunk.
05:52I think I might have went like that.
05:54Right.
05:55I think she called me a drunk.
05:57Oh.
05:57Yes.
05:58Okay, maybe we'll see on Girls Trip.
06:00And I think I also said, like she's saying, you said I didn't have a man or anything.
06:03I'm like, I'm pretty sure I said, I have a good life.
06:06I have a husband.
06:07I have kids in college.
06:09I guess she took it as she doesn't have any of that.
06:13I see.
06:14Okay, so she misunderstood.
06:16And then, and the thing is, it's like Heather's going after me about this, but Heather wasn't
06:20there when this went down.
06:21Heather was on the opposite side.
06:23So I, assuming, Shannon went over there and told them I was horrible to her.
06:28Oh, I see.
06:28And do you think that the other housewives in attendance were flabbergasted by your display
06:34of behavior?
06:35Okay, let's talk about that.
06:36So we have Portia.
06:38Okay.
06:39No, I don't think Portia.
06:40Do you have Teresa?
06:41No, I don't think Teresa's like, oh my God, that's the worst I've ever seen.
06:45I mean, come on.
06:46Yeah.
06:47Come on.
06:48I can't imagine that they would be.
06:48Mesa Barlow.
06:49They're not shocked.
06:50I mean, I think Kyle made comments like, you guys are so loud.
06:54Orange County people are loud.
06:56They scream and yell.
06:57And we did in this episode.
06:58We were screaming and yelling.
06:59We were playing bunco and screaming.
07:01So.
07:02I love it.
07:03Okay, let's pick another treat.
07:04Okay.
07:05All right.
07:05So I love a good raspberry.
07:07Oh, me too.
07:08Wait, this is also a girl's trip related.
07:09So Vicky Gumbelson recently stopped by virtual reality and she told us how she really feels
07:14about the real housewives of Rhode Island.
07:16She says that they actually scare her.
07:18She had a moment with Rosie and Kelsey while filming at Bluestone Manor for a girl's trip.
07:23Okay.
07:24She was like, they're aggressive.
07:26They need to shut up.
07:27Like, they just got here.
07:28Oh, that's funny because they're one of my favorite shows.
07:32Okay.
07:32Favorite.
07:33I'm like, put me in boss.
07:36I would thrive in that environment.
07:39Okay.
07:39Because that was my question.
07:40How do you feel about the real housewives of Rhode Island?
07:42So clearly.
07:43I want to be a slam pig.
07:45It's a slam pig summer, baby.
07:47No, I love real housewives of Rhode Island.
07:49And I am.
07:50One of my favorites.
07:51Who is your favorite?
07:53Oh, wow.
07:54Well, it's Joellen.
07:57I mean, her performance at the reunion was crazy in the best ways.
08:01Joellen.
08:02I am proof.
08:03Who the f*** are you?
08:04You're a psychopath.
08:06I know.
08:07Oh, here we go.
08:08Like, she really delivered.
08:11I love her.
08:12You guys feel like, in a way, like, kindred spirits.
08:14Like, I feel like you would offer it.
08:15Oh, we've talked about it.
08:16Like, oh, you've chatted with her about that?
08:18What's that saying?
08:18I walk so she can run.
08:19Yes.
08:19Yes.
08:20I feel like, you know, she had the FBI hat on and outfit on.
08:23I don't know if that was, like, an AI picture or whatever.
08:25And I'm like, because I was going to tell her, I go, I have an FBI hat that I wore
08:28one season.
08:29Would you like it?
08:30Yeah.
08:30Oh, my God.
08:30She just gets, she gets, she was, she was a little much at the reunion, but I appreciate the hustle.
08:36How do we feel about Rula?
08:39I like Rula.
08:40I like her, but I'm just confused with the husband stuff.
08:44Like, I'm all for trying to make things work, but burying your head is what it kind of looks like.
08:50Yeah.
08:50And I just, I worry for her in that relationship.
08:53And then lastly, how do we feel about Liz leaving after just one season?
08:56I don't like it at all.
08:57Yeah, what the hell?
08:57Don't like it at all.
08:58Yeah.
08:59I think that she brought a lot.
09:01I had talked to her off season and she was really struggling with just the hate on social media.
09:05And that's the thing, like these fan accounts.
09:08I think that Lindsay said it best lately.
09:10If you're, like, attacking, you're a cyber bully.
09:12Right.
09:13And I really, I keep saying, I want to change the laws for social media because there basically are no
09:19laws.
09:19Yeah.
09:19Get this.
09:20I got death threats and called the person out.
09:23Instagram put a hold on my account.
09:25Because you responded to someone.
09:27Yes.
09:27Threatening your life?
09:28Yes.
09:29That's wild.
09:29Yeah.
09:30So I'm like, what is going on Instagram?
09:32Like there, there needs to be better rules.
09:33People need to chill.
09:35Like it's TV.
09:37It's entertainment.
09:38You don't have to go for their children and their businesses and write bad Yelp reviews and send death threats.
09:45Like, then you makes you wonder like, what is, those are the people that need to be on reality TV.
09:49Right.
09:50Or get a Psyche Val.
09:52Yeah.
09:52One of the two.
09:53All right.
09:53Let's choose another treat.
09:56Oh.
09:56Sorry.
09:56You're like, what game are we playing?
09:58I love a good donut.
10:00Oh, me too.
10:01Okay.
10:02So back to Vicki.
10:04Oh.
10:04She told us that Shannon needs a man with a good balance sheet.
10:08Do you agree with her?
10:10What kind of man do you see Shannon with?
10:12Balance sheet?
10:12Like a financial?
10:13Like he needs to have money is what she was saying.
10:17Because Shannon doesn't have a job?
10:19I thought that's what she was insinuating.
10:21I think she was being a little shady.
10:22Oh, she was being shady.
10:23Yeah.
10:23Well, I mean, she has a job on the show, but if the show ends, that's going to be scary.
10:28For Shannon.
10:28I would like to see Shannon get a wealthy man that can take care of her.
10:32And how are you and Shannon today?
10:34Is there hope for your future as friends?
10:36I'm trying.
10:37I'm trying.
10:38You are?
10:38I've been trying for two years.
10:39You do.
10:40It's like we move forward, then we move back.
10:42We move forward, we move back.
10:43And I feel like now we're doing good.
10:47But I don't think she wants anybody to know that we're doing good.
10:49Why?
10:50Because some people just, you know, they act for the comment section of Instagram.
10:57That's the feeling I'm getting.
10:59Unless she doesn't want to like maybe give it away yet.
11:02Oh, I see.
11:03You know what I mean?
11:03Like it could be that too.
11:05But I'm like, come on.
11:06They see us together and we're photographed and we post pictures.
11:11Yeah, I saw it.
11:12So I was a little bit confused.
11:14So I feel like Shannon, the tea has been spilled.
11:15You guys are kind of friends again.
11:18I just did a collab with Shannon and Vicky with the old lady in the first 24 hours.
11:23She had not accepted the collab that Vicky had.
11:25So I don't know if she accepted yet.
11:27Wow.
11:27Okay.
11:28All right.
11:28Well, in honor of Shannon, let's grab another treat.
11:32Okay.
11:33All right.
11:34Oh, okay.
11:35Oh, boy.
11:36Good as gold.
11:37So you were engaged in a feud with Sheena Shea last year.
11:41I knew it.
11:42How are we feeling about Sheena Shea today?
11:45You know what?
11:46I don't really have any hard feelings.
11:48Okay.
11:48I mean, she does a lot on social media.
11:50And actually, she's been pretty quiet.
11:52I feel like.
11:53Yeah, she's been laying low.
11:55She's been a little quiet.
11:56I hope everything's okay with her.
11:57Yeah.
11:58Oh, my God.
11:58That's beautiful to hear.
11:59If you ran into Sheena today, what would you say?
12:01Hi, Sheena.
12:02How are you?
12:03Okay.
12:03It's as easy as that.
12:04I love it.
12:06Okay.
12:06I think we have time for like one or two more treats.
12:09Okay.
12:09I want the big one.
12:11Oh, the big one.
12:12Okay.
12:13Okay.
12:14So Saturday Night Live star Sarah Sherman, she recently said on Watch What Happens Live that
12:18she wouldn't mind seeing Sheena leave Orange County, which I wholeheartedly disagree with.
12:22I love Sheena.
12:23I think she adds a lot to the show.
12:24What do you say to fans who think Sheena's had enough time on the show?
12:27Well, there's, I mean, it's a lot on social media.
12:30Yeah.
12:32I mean, leave her alone.
12:35I don't know.
12:36She's obviously doing a good job.
12:37Robbie's keeping her.
12:38So why?
12:39I don't know.
12:40People wanted me fired.
12:41They fired me.
12:41So maybe everybody needs to be fired once.
12:43Just for a little bit.
12:44Just for a little bit.
12:45I don't want to see Sheena fired her.
12:46I don't want to see her fired.
12:47Her hair is looking better than ever.
12:49And her outfits are better.
12:50She looks so good.
12:51And I just, I mean, eye on eye for one, appreciate her on the show.
12:54Yeah.
12:54Do you think that she still has more to give as a housewife?
12:57Well, yeah.
12:57She's going to get married.
12:58Yeah.
12:59Yeah.
12:59Hopefully she gets married.
13:00Maybe she'll have a kid.
13:01Okay.
13:02I don't know.
13:02That'd be fine.
13:03I'm just throwing that out there.
13:03I'm making up rumors now.
13:05I love that.
13:06No, I think she's good.
13:07I think that she brings a lot to the show.
13:09She is questioning people and she's calling people out.
13:13So isn't that what we need?
13:15Right.
13:15I think so.
13:16Yeah.
13:16Okay.
13:16One more treat, Tamara.
13:18What's it going to be?
13:20I'm going to go over here.
13:21I think it's a croissant.
13:23Okay.
13:24Ooh.
13:25I like this one.
13:26Okay.
13:26So you and your podcast co-host, Teddy Mellencamp, shared some unfiltered thoughts about Rachel
13:31Zoe's first season as a housewife.
13:32Oh, I...
13:33How would...
13:34How could Rachel improve as a housewife?
13:36She needs to speak up a little bit more.
13:38Okay.
13:38And I think that she is somebody that doesn't like a lot of drama in her life.
13:42But I think if you're going to be on the show, you need to be more opinionated.
13:46Yeah.
13:46And we love seeing her because everybody loves her.
13:49But I need a little bit more from her this season.
13:51Just a little bit more.
13:52Okay, Rachel.
13:52I wanted you to hang out with Dorit.
13:54When I said...
13:54Don't do that.
13:55You need to work and you need to contribute.
13:57I didn't mean you need to be a f***.
13:59Oh, man.
14:00You're my Jesus Christ.
14:01Yeah.
14:02Dorit can teach her.
14:02Yes, Dorit gives everything.
14:04Dorit's...
14:05She's doing a good job.
14:06I love Dorit as a housewife.
14:07She is also on my Mount Rushmore of housewives.
14:09You and Dorit are always there.
14:11The two other positions kind of like are interchangeable.
14:13But you and Dorit just like I feel like brings so much.
14:15She...
14:16You understand what's going on.
14:17Well, she has really stepped it up since Renna left.
14:19Yeah.
14:19So we all miss Lisa and the show has never really been the same since then.
14:24But I think that Dorit is kind of filling that void now.
14:27Yeah, absolutely.
14:28Well, Rachel, I hope you're listening to Tamra because baby, you could use the advice, Tamra.
14:32Thank you so much for joining me for tea.
14:34You didn't take one sip of tea.
14:37All you did was spill it, which I love that.
14:39So cheers to you.
14:40I did that for a living, baby.
14:41So tune in next time for more tea.
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