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Valenti reads off some stunning stats about the Tigers lefty.
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00:00All right, I had something real quick.
00:01We'll get to another blitz momentarily, but I want to ask a question.
00:06And again, I'm happy to be told I'm being unfair, but look,
00:11last night Frambois Valdez did what Valdez is going to do a couple times a year.
00:15He erupted.
00:16Right.
00:17Two-thirds of an inning, six earned runs.
00:18That's kindly.
00:19Well, I wanted to ask a question.
00:22He's now started 20 games this season.
00:24All right, you're paying the guy $40 million a year.
00:27And I told you, look, you signed the best player that was available as a pitcher.
00:32He's going to eat up innings, but he'll take you out of some ball games.
00:38And then, look, he's always got that psycho gene in him where he could end up
00:41like not in his own catcher.
00:42Fine.
00:43How many starts this year has Frambois, of his 20 starts,
00:47how many starts has he given up?
00:49Four earned runs or more.
00:51Or more?
00:52Mm-hmm.
00:5420 starts?
00:55Yep.
00:58Six?
00:59Higher.
01:00Eight?
01:01Yes.
01:02Eight of his 20 starts.
01:03And he's got starts giving up eight earned runs, seven earned runs,
01:08two giving up six earned runs, five multiple fours.
01:12That's not a $40 million pitcher.
01:14Then I dug a little bit deeper, and I said, okay, well,
01:16maybe he's incurring some bad luck.
01:19He is not.
01:20His whip, right, walks and hits plus innings pitched, worst of his career.
01:25Nearly 1.4 walks plus hits per inning.
01:29His worst whip ever.
01:32His stuff is infinitely hittable.
01:36And I had this thought in my mind, and I need to know if I'm fair or foul.
01:41Okay.
01:42Okay?
01:43Paul, David, and you, is this fair or foul?
01:46Okay.
01:47Are we approaching a conversation of, is this the latest bad Scott Harris free agent signing?
01:54Who?
01:55Alex Cobb, Verlander, Maeda, giving Flaherty a vested second year.
02:01Or Ken Lee Jansen.
02:02Want me to keep going?
02:03I don't want to be a prisoner of the moment.
02:05No, no.
02:06But that's why I took the data from the season.
02:09He's, it's the same thing as Finnegan being re-signed.
02:12The ERA might look good, but if you are going to continue to give up 1.3, 1.4, 1
02:20.5 walks plus hits per inning,
02:24that ERA is going to go up.
02:27You're hittable.
02:29Finnegan getting re-signed.
02:30The guy's whip is near 1.5.
02:33I'm not even going to enter him into the chat.
02:35You paid this guy $40 million to be a 1-2 hammer with Scoble?
02:40Yeah, yeah.
02:40I mean, what are we, the guy's got an ERA closer to 5 than not.
02:44The whip is close to, is essentially, it's 1.38.
02:48And in 8 of the 20 games, you would need to score 5 runs to win.
02:52That's not a formula for a $40 million pitcher.
02:55So I wanted to ask you, fair or foul?
02:58And you can totally say it's foul.
03:01Please refrain from using ethnic slurs.
03:04I was going to say it's foul.
03:06You're getting caught up in the moment, but you brought data.
03:11Facts.
03:11My bad.
03:12Almost like you're headed to court.
03:14Want me to just be Stephen A. and just blather?
03:16I can do that for you.
03:17I know you're upset that, you know, your boy's not on the show anymore.
03:21Oh, that idiot Ryan Clark?
03:23No, that was the first guy who should have got laid off.
03:26Awful.
03:26That's all right.
03:27He could sell a few of his brooches and recoup his salary.
03:30Who's buying those?
03:34Actually, it's fair.
03:36Yes.
03:36It's trending towards that.
03:39Okay.
03:39Paul Serra, fair or foul?
03:44It is fair.
03:46And I'll say this.
03:47The thing that concerns me most about what Scott Harris has been doing in the offseason
03:50is it's now almost a running joke that every offseason he has, like, an arbitrage contract,
03:55like the Scott Harris annual, let's give a guy $15 million and never play for his contract.
03:59It's just...
04:00Here's 40.
04:02Yes.
04:02This is even...
04:03I mean, obviously, this is way worse.
04:04Of course, he's pitching for you, at least, but you're not getting nearly what you paid
04:07for.
04:08Like, his pro player stuff has just been bad.
04:12That's...
04:13Yeah.
04:13And that's why the Scooble thing, whether they keep him or sell him, I don't care.
04:18I need Scott Harris to continue to put himself in the spotlight.
04:22And I'm not talking about going on the Play by Play Guys podcast.
04:25I'm talking about doing your job and we get to grade it.
04:29But, look, Valdez could easily turn it around.
04:31Maybe he powers you to a playoff.
04:33I'm just saying, as we sit here today, this is trending towards being another bad Scott
04:38Harris signing.
04:40Well, it is because...
04:41And I gave you data, so don't say I'm being unfair.
04:43And trending, yes.
04:44I like that you said trending.
04:46Yeah.
04:46It's not there yet.
04:47Oh, it's there.
04:48Oh, you're saying it's there.
04:50Dave David's at it.
04:51I'm saying it's there because in a conversation I just had with Evan, we were talking about
04:55this Framber situation, and Framber may be a victim of ABS.
05:01He lived at the bottom of what they call the quote-unquote zone.
05:07Those were balls.
05:08I thought anybody but Scooble?
05:10No.
05:11Those were balls.
05:13And now he can't throw those anymore because he would never get a strike on those.
05:19And so now the problem I have is, that's why I said it's already there, because analytics
05:25is what Scott Harris prides himself on.
05:28He should have seen that.
05:30He should have known that.
05:32And you still signed him to this contract.
05:36So to me, it's there because I don't see him being able to fix it because of ABS.
05:43David is taking your data, Mike.
05:45It's an interesting...
05:47Here's another good one.
05:48I'm going to put a draw four on top of it.
05:50Do you know how many times this guy has gone past six innings?
05:5620?
06:00Seven?
06:02Lower.
06:03Four?
06:04Lower.
06:05Wait, but you brought him in to eight innings.
06:08Three.
06:09Lower.
06:10Two?
06:11Two.
06:12Now here's the part.
06:13It doesn't even count.
06:13Once was against Kansas City, and once is against the A's in the middle of their four and 17
06:19stretch.
06:21This is trending towards being a bad signing.
06:24This is fair.
06:26You know what?
06:27It's...
06:27You both are correct.
06:29It was just a talking point.
06:30And I want to thank you for saying what you said.
06:33You don't want to be a prisoner of the moment.
06:35That's why I made sure.
06:36I'm like, okay, let me take the collective.
06:38And I go, how many games has he not given me a chance to win in his 20 starts?
06:44Okay, eight, in my opinion.
06:46Eight.
06:47Then you factor the raw analytic data.
06:50And you go, okay, these are career worse here, career worse here.
06:55And then you look at, all right, well, is he at least battling?
06:59Maybe he was giving up a couple of runs in the seventh.
07:02No.
07:02He's not even getting into the seventh.
07:05No, no.
07:06Trump, this is the bipartisan bill here.
07:09The senator from Greater Life and the senator from Troy.
07:11Great job.
07:13Great job.
07:14And it's saying a lot, too, because he did sign Javi as well, which is a bad signing.
07:19Two.
07:19Two times?
07:21And your job is to be the guy who eats innings.
07:25That's why.
07:26It was like, okay, wow.
07:30That's good.
07:30That's good.
07:31I just wanted to throw it out there.
07:33That's a good pull.
07:33All right.
07:34We'll move it along.
07:3597-1.
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