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00:00:26Look closely at this face.
00:00:28Now, it's a composite sketch, made by several officials from the Granada Provincial Council, who swore they had seen him, had seen him
00:00:37like a rant shadow, wrapped in a kind of cassock or long robe, wandering through those official facilities.
00:00:44But not only that, in that place human remains were found, surrounded by several fetuses, several ossuaries, and so on.
00:00:53what was left of them.
00:00:54Several researchers, who were officially authorized for the first time in this country, also spent two nights in a state of genuine terror.
00:01:01of December 21 and 23, 1986.
00:01:05For 20 years, the story of the Diputación case has been sealed under the utmost secrecy, under seven locks.
00:01:12No one had returned to the place. Cuarto Milenio has managed to do it.
00:01:15One of their reporters, with a whole technological arsenal, has returned to the witnesses, to those who suffered these events.
00:01:23Some cleaning women even confessed to feeling hands gripping their hair and dragging them through the
00:01:30floor.
00:01:30The case has its story, the place has its macabre history.
00:01:34And this face, this face has a name.
00:01:37We'll find that out throughout tonight.
00:01:39Perhaps the cause of those nights of terror.
00:01:42But tonight, on Cuarto Milenio, there are many more stories.
00:01:45These are them.
00:01:51The strange ecstasies experienced by the mystic Saint Teresa were investigated by the Inquisition.
00:01:57Today, people continue to seek an explanation for them through psychiatry and paranormal phenomena.
00:02:04Did Mozart compose any of his works with Masonic themes?
00:02:07Are there any unknown codes in their scores?
00:02:10Is it true that his death remains a mystery that no one has explained?
00:02:14Today we will discover the hidden side of a genius.
00:02:18Many claim it happened to them one summer night.
00:02:22Others speak of a modern urban legend.
00:02:25They know the disturbing story of the huntress.
00:02:28And of course, tonight we will analyze some of the most amazing photographs sent by the friends of Cuarto Milenio.
00:02:41She was a woman unlike any other.
00:02:45He saw heaven and he saw hell.
00:02:47He saw God and he saw the devil.
00:02:49His flesh bore wounds of passion, or what we would call stigmata.
00:02:54Several Inquisition tribunals even stated that we do not know whether he levitated due to divine or demonic influence.
00:03:01The story of Saint Teresa has been repeated many times, but the hidden story is much more complex and unknown.
00:03:07A team from Cuarto Milenio traveled in search of the remains that are still preserved of this saint.
00:03:11Looking, of course, for the enigma, the mysterious code that still surrounds this woman.
00:03:16Saint Teresa of Jesus.
00:03:26Teresa Sánchez de Cepeda y Ahumada, later Saint Teresa of Jesus or of Ávila, was one of the most important nuns
00:03:32important and unique events in the history of Catholicism.
00:03:35Born in 1515 and canonized in 1622, her literary work transcended time and space.
00:03:43This precursor of feminism became most famous for her extraordinary mystical visions.
00:03:49These phenomena caused great excitement and she assured that they came from God.
00:04:02At six years old she is already the most prodigious, most beautiful, most present girl.
00:04:06Devoted to chivalric romances to the point of exasperation.
00:04:10In 1539, at the age of 24, Teresa fell seriously ill.
00:04:15She went to a healer in Beceda without obtaining satisfactory results.
00:04:19Then she will remain for four days as if dead inside.
00:04:22Luckily, at the last moment her father decided that she should not be buried.
00:04:27And so the coffin was open in the incarnation.
00:04:30And the father said, this daughter is not meant to die.
00:04:35And the doctor calls her "fight," he says, "it could be a cataleptic state, I think that's what it's called."
00:04:41But no, that's not it.
00:04:43And they're throwing her out, they want to win her back for the world so badly.
00:04:46that let wax drip from their eyes, on their eyelids.
00:04:53She doesn't wake up.
00:04:55And with such bad luck that there's even a fire in the room.
00:04:59Teresa of Ávila suffered from terrifying visions of hell.
00:05:02Perhaps an allegory or a journey to the deepest and darkest part of the soul.
00:05:06A terrible world, full of pain,
00:05:09like an endless nightmare inhabited by creatures
00:05:12that no other human being had ever seen in their lifetime.
00:05:14Then came the hallucinations,
00:05:17They generally came from the left side of the field,
00:05:19on the left side of the visual field.
00:05:21They were very rich relationships,
00:05:24They were olfactory, visual, and auditory.
00:05:28scenic scenes, scenes in hell,
00:05:30the saints speaking, etc.
00:05:32And all of that cloaked in extreme pleasure.
00:05:36A pleasure that wouldn't change anything in the world
00:05:40for a few seconds of that moment.
00:05:43During their ecstasies,
00:05:44Some witnesses testified under oath
00:05:46to see Saint Teresa rise up to a meter off the ground.
00:05:50It was a mystery that the church knew well,
00:05:52because he had opened several investigations
00:05:54to other previous religious figures
00:05:56who suffered the same anomaly.
00:05:58Some of these and other phenomena
00:06:00He lived them in the Convent of the Incarnation in Ávila,
00:06:03where he remained for almost 30 years.
00:06:08Quite a few scholars speculated
00:06:10that Saint Teresa suffered
00:06:11of some mental anomaly caused
00:06:13due to poisoning from medicinal plants.
00:06:17Others considered that their crises
00:06:18They were of the epileptic type
00:06:20and that they resulted from a viral encephalopathy.
00:06:23The truth is that no one was able to diagnose with certainty.
00:06:26that strange state into which he was sinking.
00:06:29What was the cause of this epilepsy?
00:06:31Why did she have epilepsy?
00:06:33It wasn't traumatic, which was common,
00:06:36It wasn't due to a birth injury,
00:06:37She was a bright girl,
00:06:39There was no evidence that he had
00:06:40no type of congenital disease.
00:06:43So one of the fundamental causes
00:06:45that existed then in Spain
00:06:46It was cysticercosis,
00:06:48with such a technical name,
00:06:51It was the one that produced the pork tapeworm.
00:06:54Saint Teresa experienced the phenomenon of transverberation.
00:06:57It was the appearance of a very beautiful angel.
00:07:00which he identified with a cherub.
00:07:02He carried in his hand a long golden sword
00:07:04whose tip looked like a burning disgust.
00:07:07The nun felt that the angel
00:07:09He plunged the sword into his heart
00:07:11and it pierced his very core.
00:07:15The Cuarto Milenio team traveled to Alba de Tormes,
00:07:18where Saint Teresa died on October 4, 1582.
00:07:23Teresa was buried in her convent
00:07:25covered with stone and lime,
00:07:27in a place of extraordinary humidity.
00:07:30The nuns of the community,
00:07:31Incredible as it may seem,
00:07:33they felt in the following days
00:07:35that the grave exhaled
00:07:36a pleasant aroma,
00:07:38identical to the one that was observed in his cell
00:07:40the day of his death.
00:07:43Nine months after Teresa's death,
00:07:45The exhumation of his body proceeded.
00:07:47To the surprise of those present,
00:07:49the anatomy appeared intact and uncorrupted,
00:07:52as if it had been deposited an hour earlier.
00:07:55The clothes and the wood of the coffin
00:07:56They were visibly deteriorated.
00:08:00His left hand was cut off.
00:08:04Upon opening the body,
00:08:06They found her looking fresh and rosy,
00:08:10the color like that of a child.
00:08:13In the Church of the Annunciation,
00:08:15You can see the cell where he breathed his last.
00:08:19There, in a small museum,
00:08:21There is the incorrupt heart of the saint,
00:08:23stored inside a blister pack,
00:08:25which exploded twice due to the evaporation of the liquids
00:08:28that still mysteriously retained their freshness.
00:08:31In the center of the heart,
00:08:33Some identify a scar
00:08:34which they attribute to the dart with which the cherub of transverberation pierced him.
00:08:40In another display case of the Annunciation in Alba de Tormes,
00:08:44There is the left arm of Saint Teresa,
00:08:46a mummified portion of his body,
00:08:48protected by a reliquary.
00:08:50A vestige that many leaders believed they possessed
00:08:53of an almost divine power.
00:08:56When Franco finds out what he has among the things that have been sent to him
00:09:01the hand of Saint Teresa,
00:09:03He, who already had great devotion to the saint
00:09:06and that he had entrusted him, it seems,
00:09:10everything he considered the work of the crusade,
00:09:14all the military elements of the battle and everything else to the saint,
00:09:20He considers it providential that his hand has come to him.
00:09:24And then he decides to keep his hand in his own headquarters,
00:09:32for which purpose he writes to the Bishop of Malaga
00:09:35and asks for permission to keep the relic
00:09:38until the end of the war.
00:09:41Franco believed he was under the protection of Saint Teresa,
00:09:44completely sure that his hand
00:09:46He would assist him in what he called leading the nation.
00:09:50Only death separated him from the precious relic,
00:09:53who after 40 years returned to the bosom of the Carmelites of Ronda,
00:09:57some nuns who never stopped demanding its return.
00:10:11Saint Teresa is certainly an interesting figure.
00:10:14and perhaps more unknown than we initially thought.
00:10:18Francisco Alonso Fernández,
00:10:19Professor Emeritus of Psychiatry and Medical Psychology
00:10:22from the Complutense University,
00:10:24He is one of the great experts.
00:10:25He wrote a book that I personally consider a classic.
00:10:28Stigmata, Levitation, and Ecstasy.
00:10:31A study to delve into these amazing fields,
00:10:35so scientific and sometimes seem so mystical.
00:10:38Doctor, good evening, welcome.
00:10:40Good night.
00:10:40I have heard him say once, Francisco,
00:10:43that the key lies in childhood,
00:10:46in this woman's youth,
00:10:47and that it is rarely talked about.
00:10:48Yes, well, in principle, above all,
00:10:51If we move beyond what was the great mystic that she was,
00:10:57who had no levitations,
00:10:59because in the history of humanity
00:11:00There has never been a proven case of levitation,
00:11:04except in theaters, of course.
00:11:06It is important to highlight this,
00:11:08but nevertheless, almost on a mystical level,
00:11:09or on a religious level,
00:11:10It is admitted that this happened.
00:11:12No, from a subjective point of view, yes.
00:11:13but from an objective point of view
00:11:15It has not been proven.
00:11:16not even as he proves in my book
00:11:18for Saint Francis of Assisi,
00:11:20who was the person with whom the discussion took place
00:11:21plus levitation.
00:11:22Besides,
00:11:23Nor is she objectively stigmatized,
00:11:25because of objective stigmas
00:11:27that appeared on the skin
00:11:28They were very discredited
00:11:30for the Church at that time,
00:11:31especially for the Inquisition.
00:11:33And then the great mystics of Spain
00:11:35of the 16th century
00:11:36He had no objective stigmas,
00:11:39but nevertheless
00:11:40It had subjective, invisible stigmas,
00:11:42because the pains coincided
00:11:44with the erosion zones of Christ's body.
00:11:47The most important ones,
00:11:48the traces of passion.
00:11:51And then, in addition,
00:11:52He had a visceral stigma,
00:11:55the heart injury.
00:11:56The heart injury,
00:11:57Of course,
00:11:58corresponds,
00:11:58According to studies conducted,
00:12:00For example,
00:12:00by a great Spanish pathologist,
00:12:03Novoa Santos,
00:12:03Roberto Novoa Santos,
00:12:05may correspond
00:12:06to a myocardial infarction.
00:12:07So really
00:12:08this phenomenon
00:12:10so amazing
00:12:11of transverberation
00:12:13agreed,
00:12:14apparently,
00:12:15could coincide
00:12:16with myocardial infarction.
00:12:18And then,
00:12:18indeed,
00:12:19Apart from this,
00:12:20because I had a painting
00:12:21of historical neurosis.
00:12:22It had phenomena
00:12:23of apparent death.
00:12:24Apparent death?
00:12:25What is that, doctor?
00:12:26Apparent death.
00:12:26Apparent death
00:12:27It is a catalytic state
00:12:28which was given a lot
00:12:29in other times
00:12:30and that it coincided
00:12:31with great immobility,
00:12:33at the same time
00:12:36a weakening
00:12:37of vegetative phenomena,
00:12:38of breathing,
00:12:39of cardiac function,
00:12:40so that all that
00:12:41He looked deathly
00:12:42and it gave the impression
00:12:44of a dead person
00:12:45and yet
00:12:45She was not dead at all.
00:12:47That's where it comes from
00:12:47the macabre tradition
00:12:49that many people
00:12:50They say they were buried alive.
00:12:51Well,
00:12:51And that's where it also comes from
00:12:52the phenomenon
00:12:54of fear
00:12:55and phobic
00:12:56more widespread
00:12:57in those times
00:12:58It was taphophobia.
00:12:59or phobia
00:13:00to be buried alive.
00:13:02There were people
00:13:03that they left arranged,
00:13:04For example,
00:13:05the musician Chopin,
00:13:06that upon dying
00:13:07They will take away their hearts.
00:13:08to have security
00:13:09and that they were not buried alive.
00:13:11So really
00:13:12It was a fear
00:13:14truly amazing.
00:13:14This continued until the 19th and 20th centuries.
00:13:16in which it was already taken
00:13:17more confidence
00:13:18in the diagnosis of death
00:13:20by the doctors
00:13:21and it was already being excluded
00:13:22this fear.
00:13:24Amazing, doctor?
00:13:24And I wanted to tell him,
00:13:25Did she enter those states?
00:13:27Was that the strangest thing?
00:13:28What was happening to Saint Teresa?
00:13:29at a phenomenological level?
00:13:30Well, no,
00:13:31It happened to him too
00:13:31the ecstasies.
00:13:32The ecstasies
00:13:33contrary to what is also said
00:13:35that she was convinced
00:13:36that he was united with God,
00:13:38Sometimes, yes.
00:13:39But other times I thought
00:13:40if it could be
00:13:41influence of the devil
00:13:42or it could be
00:13:43a disease phenomenon
00:13:44because she herself
00:13:45I had the conscience
00:13:46that he had
00:13:47a mindset
00:13:48very tumultuous,
00:13:51very contradictory
00:13:52with herself
00:13:53and that he had had
00:13:54phenomena,
00:13:55Of course,
00:13:56that we now categorize
00:13:57safely,
00:13:58like a hysterical neurosis.
00:14:00That is to say,
00:14:01a conversion neurosis
00:14:02where psychic conflicts
00:14:04that come
00:14:05of childhood
00:14:06they were transforming
00:14:07in somatic symptoms,
00:14:10pains,
00:14:10inability to speak,
00:14:12to move,
00:14:13etcetera, etcetera.
00:14:14That type of phenomenon,
00:14:15doctor,
00:14:15could be
00:14:18diagnosed
00:14:19From a religious point of view,
00:14:20I always mean,
00:14:22as coming from
00:14:22of the divine
00:14:23or also of evil,
00:14:24I was saying?
00:14:24I mean,
00:14:25which I imagine Saint Teresa
00:14:26He also had a bad time
00:14:26with certain authorities
00:14:28in its time.
00:14:28And his books
00:14:29They were burned
00:14:30and several of his writings
00:14:31They were burned.
00:14:32Were his books burned?
00:14:33And did the Inquisition persecute her?
00:14:34Well, the Inquisition
00:14:36he harassed her,
00:14:37let's say,
00:14:38at least that he harassed her.
00:14:39And then,
00:14:40this harassment by the Inquisition
00:14:41it also slowed down
00:14:43the possible appearance
00:14:44that his enthusiasm
00:14:47religious mystic
00:14:48could be embodied
00:14:49in the body
00:14:50in the form of objective stigmas,
00:14:52which was something
00:14:53what was happening
00:14:54quite frequently
00:14:54at that time.
00:14:55But the secret,
00:14:56Of course,
00:14:56of all this,
00:14:57from my point of view,
00:14:58And this has been
00:14:59very little discussed,
00:15:01It lies in the biography
00:15:02children and young people.
00:15:04Was there anything that really
00:15:05tell one,
00:15:06Gee,
00:15:06Is there a strange phenomenon?
00:15:08inside this woman
00:15:08that transcends even
00:15:10the scientific
00:15:11or not at all?
00:15:13It's very difficult,
00:15:15clear,
00:15:15answer this question
00:15:16because it would be necessary to
00:15:17answer it
00:15:18with many reflections.
00:15:20But each mystic
00:15:21It's different.
00:15:22to the other mystics.
00:15:24Saint Teresa
00:15:25she had so much experience
00:15:26harassment
00:15:26for the devil
00:15:27that at certain times
00:15:30experiment
00:15:30like a species
00:15:33of reverie
00:15:34that the devil
00:15:35I was transporting her
00:15:36to hell
00:15:36flying.
00:15:37So really
00:15:38This is a common experience.
00:15:40and it's not an experience
00:15:41demonological,
00:15:42but on the contrary,
00:15:44a beatific experience.
00:15:45Are there still mystics today, doctor?
00:15:47Mystics who present
00:15:48paintings
00:15:50neurological
00:15:51or of phenomena
00:15:51more or less strange
00:15:52that are of interest to the Church
00:15:54today,
00:15:54Not in the century...?
00:15:55Well,
00:15:55the proof is
00:15:56in the Father Pio of Petrecina,
00:15:57Father Pio of Petrecina
00:15:59who died
00:16:00in the pain of multitudes
00:16:01and well,
00:16:02and then
00:16:03He was consecrated a saint
00:16:04and he was pursued
00:16:05by the official Church,
00:16:06by his superior,
00:16:09the abbot
00:16:10corresponding,
00:16:11etc,
00:16:11etc.
00:16:12So,
00:16:13Father Pio of Petrecina
00:16:14because he is already a figure
00:16:15of this type
00:16:15and it has been
00:16:16the only priest,
00:16:18the only priest
00:16:19official,
00:16:20regular
00:16:20that had objective stigmas
00:16:22because then
00:16:23There were many friars,
00:16:25Franciscans,
00:16:25Dominicans,
00:16:26There was even a collision
00:16:27among Franciscans
00:16:28and Dominicans
00:16:28Let's see which order
00:16:30It had more stigmatized people,
00:16:31etc,
00:16:32etc,
00:16:33but really
00:16:35regular treatments,
00:16:36the only one was
00:16:37Father Pio of Petrecina.
00:16:38A question
00:16:39that I can't resist doing to him,
00:16:40the human mind
00:16:40can arrive
00:16:41to cause injuries?
00:16:42And we have to ask ourselves
00:16:44in the face of a stigma,
00:16:45Is it spontaneous?
00:16:46Or is it artificial?
00:16:47If it's spontaneous,
00:16:49Well,
00:16:49and it's lightweight,
00:16:51Of course
00:16:52It can be a phenomenon
00:16:52completely psychosomatic.
00:16:54That's the case
00:16:55of the girl
00:16:55which contemplates
00:16:57how they whip
00:16:58that afternoon
00:16:58to his brother
00:16:59on the back
00:17:00giving him a few lashes
00:17:01terrible
00:17:02and the next day
00:17:03they appear to her
00:17:04the same footprints
00:17:05on his back
00:17:05without having been touched
00:17:06by no one.
00:17:08So
00:17:08are phenomena
00:17:10conversion
00:17:12of a feeling,
00:17:14an idea
00:17:15in a bodily phenomenon.
00:17:17This is already known
00:17:18for a long time
00:17:19that exists.
00:17:20Therefore,
00:17:20these stigmas
00:17:22spontaneous
00:17:23many times
00:17:24They have a origin
00:17:25psychosomatic.
00:17:26And as for the others,
00:17:27the artificial ones
00:17:27many times
00:17:28They are not fraudulent
00:17:29because they are caused
00:17:30by the same person
00:17:31probably
00:17:31during sleep.
00:17:32During sleep?
00:17:33Yeah,
00:17:34during sleep.
00:17:35Probably
00:17:36automation
00:17:37that is thrown
00:17:38some substance,
00:17:39that gets scratched,
00:17:40etc,
00:17:40etc.
00:17:40But without being aware of it.
00:17:41This is more mysterious
00:17:42that there is a real stigma.
00:17:43That's why without being aware of it.
00:17:44Or also provoked
00:17:45by the group
00:17:46that surrounds it
00:17:47without him knowing it.
00:17:48And there's a lot of this.
00:17:49because around
00:17:50to each one
00:17:51of these figures
00:17:51it always forms
00:17:52a group
00:17:52which deals with
00:17:53to exploit
00:17:54fame
00:17:55and the phenomena
00:17:57extraordinary
00:17:58that occur
00:17:59in this figure.
00:17:59Unfortunately
00:18:00We don't have any more time.
00:18:01We continue to recommend
00:18:02This absolutely classic book,
00:18:04We told you so,
00:18:04one of the treaties
00:18:05genuine scientists
00:18:06about the world
00:18:07of stigma,
00:18:08levitation
00:18:08and ecstasy.
00:18:09And also, doctor,
00:18:10I wish you the best of luck.
00:18:11with this book,
00:18:12The free man
00:18:13and their shadows,
00:18:14fresh out of the oven,
00:18:15literary.
00:18:16Doctor,
00:18:17It has been a pleasure
00:18:17to have it here
00:18:18on Cuarto Milenio.
00:18:18Same here.
00:18:19And that I summon him
00:18:20that one day
00:18:21Let's look at other figures
00:18:22what they said
00:18:23that arrived
00:18:24to really cry blood,
00:18:25that caused stigmas
00:18:26and phenomena
00:18:27that we don't know
00:18:28where the legend ends
00:18:29and where does science begin?
00:18:30A pleasure.
00:18:31Delighted forever.
00:18:33And we now
00:18:33We're leaving
00:18:34with a series of images
00:18:36I assure you
00:18:36that will surprise you.
00:18:38Images,
00:18:38some of them gruesome,
00:18:40of these stigmatized people,
00:18:42of these people
00:18:43who wanted to be
00:18:44in a different state
00:18:45to that of the rest of mortals
00:18:46and that sometimes,
00:18:48graphically,
00:18:49They say it all.
00:18:50Look at them closely,
00:18:51because then
00:18:51We talked about them.
00:18:52and that they will surprise you.
00:19:32Images that are worth a thousand words, without a doubt.
00:19:36Mystical people, within very important religious environments, very fundamentalist in some cases,
00:19:42and that they bled from their eyes, from their mouths, that they had not ingested any food for years,
00:19:46In short, they were protagonists of countless wonders for some, frauds for others, or enigmas of the mind.
00:19:53perhaps for the vast majority.
00:19:54Karen Porter, good evening.
00:19:56Good evening, Iker.
00:19:57This terrifying image is by Teresa Newman.
00:20:00Indeed, she is one of the mystics who suffers all the stigmata of what we would call passion.
00:20:06Since 1918, the year in which a serious fire occurred in one of the Bavarian villages of Conestreut.
00:20:13houses,
00:20:13And as she helps extinguish those flames, she suffers partial paralysis of her legs.
00:20:19Later, in the months when she is bedridden, she suffers from all kinds of illnesses,
00:20:24from appendicitis, deafness, blindness, and from that moment on the stigmata of passion begin to reappear.
00:20:30Those wounds that open up on both the hands and feet are also revived by the crown of thorns.
00:20:36He develops spots around his forehead and bleeds profusely from all of them.
00:20:41To such an extent, Iker, that the doctors who are with her even collect blood samples from those eyes.
00:20:47that fall.
00:20:49They see that it is this person's vital blood and that it is not normal for a person of their age.
00:20:57nor of his physical condition that causes him to bleed so much.
00:21:01Furthermore, those wounds never healed.
00:21:03They didn't close.
00:21:04No, and above all they opened up and bled more during Holy Week and on the days when it revived
00:21:09the passion of Jesus Christ.
00:21:10But Carmen, excuse me, we are seeing images without color.
00:21:13In other words, we're not just talking about prints from past centuries, from the beginning of photography, from the end of the 19th century; we're talking about
00:21:21of the mid-twentieth century.
00:21:22We are talking about the 20th century, indeed, this photograph was taken around 1950 in which we can see her in full
00:21:30ecstasy.
00:21:30She said that while she suffered these wounds, she relived the moments, even describing the painful path she had taken.
00:21:39Christ.
00:21:40When she placed it in the crown of thorns, she made the gesture that they were placing that full cap on her head.
00:21:46with thorns on top of the head
00:21:47and immediately rivulets of blood began to appear from his forehead.
00:21:51And even one thing that is very important because very few stigmatized people in history are involved, and that is the
00:21:57launched.
00:21:58There comes a moment when a large wound opens up on his side, precisely in this area.
00:22:04that a doctor even goes so far as to put his hand in
00:22:06And he confirms that it's a physical wound. There, he doesn't touch this woman, not even in front of this doctor.
00:22:13and four nurses who were always taking care of her,
00:22:16That wound opens and begins to bleed, like the lance thrust that Jesus Christ received when he was...
00:22:21the cross.
00:22:22Was there a scientific investigation, therefore? Was any evidence of fraud discovered?
00:22:25No evidence of fraud was discovered, even though it was analyzed by hundreds of doctors.
00:22:29who, faced with such striking photographs, came all the way to this Bavarian village.
00:22:34Those four nuns were constantly with her and also conducted experiments because this woman,
00:22:39From 1951 onwards, he stopped eating any food.
00:22:44He drank only a little water a day and an eighth of a communion wafer.
00:22:49consecrated.
00:22:50It was what he ate and what he ingested for the rest of his life.
00:22:54Until death.
00:22:55Indeed, he never ate again.
00:22:57The doctors also said it could be a state of completely aggressive hysteria.
00:23:02and that in that state, and having read many things about religious people who had suffered stigmata
00:23:08and other mystical phenomena, because she, thanks to her mind, had remembered those same phenomena.
00:23:14Well, there are passages in the Holy Scriptures that speak to us of that exudation of blood.
00:23:18with the anguish of Jesus in the garden of olives, for example.
00:23:20Many mystics have tried to reproduce that phenomenon that may reconcile us
00:23:26with the darker aspects of the power of our own minds, who knows.
00:23:30But in Spain, yes, in our country, there have also been amazing and little-known cases.
00:23:35Almost kept secret, like this woman's.
00:23:37The truth is yes, María Luisa Zancajo de la Mata, this woman from Ávila,
00:23:41who decides to become a nun, decides to help above all the poorest people,
00:23:46He founded a kind of convent in Madrid. There, a series of extraordinary phenomena began to occur.
00:23:52In addition to those wounds of passion, here we see how her forehead is completely covered in blood.
00:23:58because of that cap of thorns, which also recalls Teresa Newman.
00:24:02But not only that, this nun also suffered demonic attacks.
00:24:06As we discussed earlier, attacks by strange figures that they identified with the devil.
00:24:10Yes, but often the people who suffer from it say that they suffer it alone.
00:24:14The thing is, in this case we have witnesses from other nuns in the convent.
00:24:18which they assure, and it is written and signed in their own hand,
00:24:24because I was able to speak with some of those nuns at Jean's convent,
00:24:28They claimed that this woman was being dragged along as if by an invisible hand,
00:24:32who was holding her by the hair, dragging her by the hair all over the room,
00:24:36and even went so far as to lift her onto the wall,
00:24:38and that she said they were demonic attacks or attacks from what she called the bald man.
00:24:42Around this woman, all sorts of phenomena also occur, such as contributions,
00:24:46That is, the materialization of objects in a place where there is nothing,
00:24:51and also igneous phenomena.
00:24:53Everything around him was burning.
00:24:54A priest, Father Manuel Soria, who is also his spiritual guide,
00:24:59He is the one who writes a book about the extraordinary phenomena surrounding this woman,
00:25:05And he says he witnessed how, while sitting in an armchair,
00:25:09As we can be here normally, suddenly everything around us starts to light up.
00:25:13Now in the convent of Jean, where this woman is still held in great devotion,
00:25:19who dedicated his life, it must always be said, to the poor,
00:25:22There is a small museum that cannot be visited; it is not open to the public.
00:25:27where some of this woman's completely burned nightgowns are kept,
00:25:31because nobody knows how or why fires started to break out around them.
00:25:36A whole litany, never a truer word spoken, of strange phenomena
00:25:39that have occurred in the vicinity of those people we call mystics.
00:25:43And I get the feeling that we know very little.
00:25:45regarding those altered states of consciousness
00:25:48when the mind enters fields that are certainly terrifying on many occasions.
00:25:53Now I want to tell you about another story, the story of the musicians.
00:25:57There has been a lot of talk about it lately, of course, because of its centenary.
00:26:01which we now celebrate, Bozart.
00:26:04Bozart is being rediscovered; his music is certainly being played more than ever.
00:26:09an unprecedented, precocious genius,
00:26:11But wow, there are many things we don't know about him.
00:26:14It was said that he did favors for the Freemasons.
00:26:17And what happened to his skull?
00:26:20Or for example, is it true that a man in black
00:26:22that in the end no one has identified
00:26:24and that we all have in mind from the movie Amadeus
00:26:27Did it end his life?
00:26:28Who was that man in black?
00:26:31Did he really draw strange codes in his musical scores?
00:26:34Thanks to Pablo Bellarrubia, we're going to learn
00:26:36the other side of a genius, Mozart.
00:26:41Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart was one of the greatest geniuses of all time.
00:26:45From childhood he revealed himself as a prodigy and composed more than 600 works.
00:26:49Many scholars are still asking themselves
00:26:51What does his musical work conceal?
00:26:53Why is his death surrounded by legends and mysteries?
00:26:56Did he die from murder or from some disease?
00:26:59This is the hidden life of the one they called
00:27:02the great architect of the universe.
00:27:10He was already playing the piano at the age of four
00:27:12and by the age of six he had already composed up to 300 works.
00:27:18So, small as it was, it was already known that it was something exceptional.
00:27:23Mozart's lesser-known facet is the influence, from a young age,
00:27:28of Freemasonry and esotericism in his work.
00:27:30Mozart officially joined Freemasonry on December 14, 1784.
00:27:36The thing is, the young man had already been absorbing esoteric theories in some way.
00:27:45of connection with secret societies, although he had not participated in an overt manner.
00:27:50The work Le Giselle en Reise, which is the journey of Mozart's companion,
00:27:55which is one of the most remarkable Masonic works and compositions in existence,
00:27:59He composed it for his own father's initiation into the second degree,
00:28:05by Polo Mozart, who was initiated into Wolfgang Amadeus's own lodge in 1785.
00:28:13The Magic Flute was Mozart's main Masonic musical work.
00:28:18In it, musical notes held a special symbolism
00:28:21offered mainly by some instruments.
00:28:25The magic flute, in reality, summarizes initiation.
00:28:30It is a description of initiation through the natural elements,
00:28:34as classical, esoteric initiations have always been.
00:28:38Through earth, air, water, and fire, man begins
00:28:43in the knowledge of nature and of nature itself, which is physics,
00:28:48It leads to metaphysics. That is initiation.
00:28:51Mozart may have discovered the musical keys capable of providing
00:28:56a significant development of intelligence in children,
00:28:59and even alleviate the symptoms of some diseases.
00:29:03This is the so-called Mozart Effect, which the La Fe Hospital in Valencia
00:29:07applies to their newborns.
00:29:09We have seen that children calm down and are more tranquil when they hear music.
00:29:12They sleep better. The restlessness that children experience in these units is reduced.
00:29:16You are experiencing what a neonatal unit is like,
00:29:19the large number of people there, the tremendous noises that exist.
00:29:22You think the fetus is acoustically isolated and suddenly we put
00:29:26in a unit with all these problems, all these environmental aggressions.
00:29:31So, what we're looking for with the music, indeed,
00:29:33That's what we all notice when we put on music; it relaxes us.
00:29:36that calms us down, that makes us think a little, that induces us to sleep.
00:29:40Mozart's death is a subject of debate.
00:29:43Some believe he died of natural causes,
00:29:46But others speak of murder or even conspiracy.
00:29:50There has been speculation that the Freemasons themselves
00:29:53They ordered Mozart to be poisoned for having revealed secrets
00:29:57of the order in the magic flute.
00:29:59However, others consider this hypothesis absurd,
00:30:03Mozart was a tireless Freemason until his death.
00:30:06Others suspect the Viennese aristocrats, subtly criticized by the brilliant musician.
00:30:12People adored him, and at the same time the aristocrats disliked him a little.
00:30:18Because he, with the fun he got into during construction,
00:30:22But there was always a hint of criticism of that regime, that some very powerful people
00:30:28and the others who had nothing.
00:30:30And that comes through, for example, in the operas he writes in Vienna.
00:30:34His colleague and rival, Antonio Salieri, was also accused.
00:30:38However, several biographers dismiss this possibility,
00:30:42Salieri was a highly prestigious composer
00:30:45and his alleged jealousy regarding Mozart would not be justified.
00:30:50There are still some dark spots.
00:30:52His own death, the dark one.
00:30:56And so is the oft-repeated fact,
00:31:01that he was buried in a mass grave.
00:31:04Which, nowadays, is not at all clear
00:31:07because, given that he was going to be buried in a mass grave
00:31:11when his relatives, his children who were dying,
00:31:16of the many children his wife brought into the world
00:31:19and that they died as soon as they were born,
00:31:22as was somewhat common at the time,
00:31:24They are all buried in recognizable locations.
00:31:29So, the mystery surrounding Mozart still remains.
00:31:44Like all great geniuses,
00:31:45Musicians are very special, very sensitive people
00:31:48and sometimes even very superstitious.
00:31:50For example, I remember the story of Wagner.
00:31:52Wagner had an obsession with the number 13
00:31:54that haunted him throughout his life.
00:31:57By the way, your first and last name,
00:31:59since I know that the friends of Cuarto Milenio
00:32:00He likes the subject of numerology,
00:32:02They totaled 13.
00:32:03He was born in 1813,
00:32:05He composed 13 operas,
00:32:07the first one premiered on the 13th,
00:32:09The last one was on the 13th.
00:32:11The most important one on the 13th,
00:32:13It was ruined on the 13th.
00:32:15He was banished for 13 years.
00:32:16on the 13th,
00:32:17He died on the 13th.
00:32:19Those kinds of stories happen with great geniuses.
00:32:22But with Mozart, all mysteries are far surpassed.
00:32:26Pablo Villarrubia, author of this research,
00:32:27Good evening, colleague.
00:32:28Good evening, Sique.
00:32:29Where is Mozart's body, or at least his skull?
00:32:32There's a whole story about the end of this genius
00:32:35which we find a bit bland,
00:32:37No?
00:32:37There's a mass grave, it seems unbelievable.
00:32:39Yes, because it's incredible,
00:32:40such an important person at that time
00:32:42and that, well,
00:32:43He was taken to the cemetery,
00:32:44No one accompanied Mozart's body there,
00:32:47only at his dinner,
00:32:47Vienna Cathedral,
00:32:49There was a celebration of death,
00:32:51even Antonio Salieri,
00:32:52who is also accused of the possible murder
00:32:55due to Mozart's poisoning,
00:32:56He was playing some music, wasn't he?
00:32:58For a funeral, for Mozart,
00:33:01and then the coffin continues to the cemetery,
00:33:04alone,
00:33:05in the midst of a terrible snowstorm,
00:33:07accompanied only by Mozart's dog,
00:33:09He was the only companion
00:33:10And when they get there in the undertaker,
00:33:11Well, they are only accompanied by undertakers,
00:33:13They bury him
00:33:13and after 10 years
00:33:15They unearth the body of,
00:33:17exhume Mozart's body,
00:33:18a gravedigger
00:33:19that he had buried him with a rope
00:33:21tied around the neck
00:33:22so that it can be identified in the future.
00:33:24They were going to boil the bones in oil,
00:33:26as was the custom in those days,
00:33:27save Mozart's body
00:33:28or basically the skull
00:33:30and then that skull passes by in succession
00:33:33to several people,
00:33:34among them a famous phrenologist from Vienna
00:33:37And this man even has the skull in his house.
00:33:41and died in 1901
00:33:42embraced,
00:33:43It is said,
00:33:44At least, that's what the legend says.
00:33:45to this skull.
00:33:46After this skull,
00:33:47in 1902,
00:33:48he is transferred to the Mozarteum,
00:33:50which is an institution located in Salzburg,
00:33:52who had the opportunity to visit there
00:33:54and at the Mozarteum
00:33:55This skull is on display
00:33:56from 1955 onwards
00:33:59And they say that from that moment on
00:34:01several people
00:34:02several phenomena are witnessed
00:34:03around this skull.
00:34:05Among them,
00:34:05For example,
00:34:06There's talk that they listen to music
00:34:08that comes from nowhere,
00:34:09There are also reports of horrible screams
00:34:12around the skull
00:34:13and also of phenomena
00:34:14of the Pottergeist type.
00:34:15But not only that,
00:34:16It appears that the former owners of the skull,
00:34:18who were at least four people,
00:34:20They also witnessed some phenomena in the surrounding area.
00:34:22Then they talk about the curse
00:34:24from Mozart's skull.
00:34:25Pablo, as always,
00:34:26Thank you very much, mate.
00:34:27for shedding light
00:34:28on the other side of Mozart.
00:34:30Thank you all very much as well.
00:34:31Of course, a photo
00:34:32from that black silhouette,
00:34:34of that man
00:34:34who makes visits
00:34:35concrete and precise
00:34:37to destabilize
00:34:38to the young Mozart
00:34:39and submerge it
00:34:40in a terrible illness,
00:34:41That would be terrible.
00:34:42Having the image, of course,
00:34:43There were no cameras.
00:34:44But fortunately,
00:34:46so that it may not be a source of despair,
00:34:47We have the images
00:34:48from our friends
00:34:49from Cuarto Milenio.
00:35:08The first photo of this week
00:35:10She's very, very curious, Carmen.
00:35:11She's very curious
00:35:13because in it
00:35:14It appears to be an animal
00:35:15that is inside a stove.
00:35:17It looks like a puppy.
00:35:19Poor thing.
00:35:20We could even
00:35:21the breed, a farmer,
00:35:23Right?
00:35:23Little white boy.
00:35:24Well no,
00:35:25It's a curious way
00:35:26that María Ruiz sent us.
00:35:28He sent us this curious image
00:35:30in which the logs
00:35:32what's inside that stove
00:35:34have appeared to form
00:35:35This effigy of an animal.
00:35:37Although for me,
00:35:38I don't know what he'll say.
00:35:39our IT analyst
00:35:40Guillermo León
00:35:41It's a puppy
00:35:42whom they have put
00:35:43with a flashlight or a light
00:35:44to make us look
00:35:45that the stove was on.
00:35:47But it's just a hypothesis.
00:35:47completely mine.
00:35:48And the next one,
00:35:49the following photograph
00:35:50from a friend
00:35:51from Fourth Millennium
00:35:52It really comes from
00:35:54with the seal
00:35:55at least
00:35:55inexplicable for the moment.
00:35:57The truth is, yes.
00:35:58Maribel from Badajoz
00:36:00he sent us
00:36:00This curious image
00:36:01in which it is shown
00:36:03to two elderly people
00:36:04who are with a small child
00:36:06dress also for procession
00:36:08because it was in the procession
00:36:10from a few years ago.
00:36:11I was there with my grandfather.
00:36:13and the great-grandmother
00:36:14and suddenly
00:36:15when they stopped
00:36:16Take a look at these curious images
00:36:18they checked
00:36:19that precisely
00:36:20behind bars
00:36:21from that door
00:36:21A face appeared.
00:36:23He says it's a town
00:36:24very tiny
00:36:24where they live
00:36:25that is known there
00:36:26from all over the world
00:36:26There are barely 100 people
00:36:28and that the face
00:36:29of that woman
00:36:29that appears there
00:36:30They haven't acknowledged it.
00:36:31at no time.
00:36:33Guillermo León
00:36:33what it tells us
00:36:34It's really
00:36:35I miss the photograph
00:36:37but we must comment
00:36:38that are appreciated
00:36:39several reflections
00:36:40defined
00:36:41elements on the street
00:36:42in those crystals.
00:36:43The strange thing
00:36:44of all this
00:36:44it's the look
00:36:45there we can contemplate
00:36:47that strange and penetrating
00:36:48that woman's gaze
00:36:49which also seems
00:36:50also realize
00:36:51that there is a camera.
00:36:53We have not given
00:36:53an explanation
00:36:55more rational than this
00:36:56Iker
00:36:56because it doesn't have it
00:36:57or truly
00:36:58There was a person
00:36:59behind those windows
00:37:00that nobody knew
00:37:01And it's strange.
00:37:02because the house
00:37:03belonged to this family
00:37:04or some reflection
00:37:06street
00:37:07could have done
00:37:08such a strange effigy.
00:37:09And speaking
00:37:10of strange effigies
00:37:10I told him
00:37:11at first
00:37:12Don't forget
00:37:13from this image
00:37:14of the composite sketch
00:37:15of a sad man
00:37:17I repeat
00:37:18small eyes
00:37:19and profound
00:37:19sharp nose
00:37:20and a countenance
00:37:22tormented
00:37:23It was him
00:37:24the one that originated
00:37:25the strange phenomena
00:37:26of the Provincial Council of Granada
00:37:2720 years later
00:37:28Let's try
00:37:28discover it
00:37:29and also
00:37:30in a few minutes
00:37:31let's get to know
00:37:32one of those stories
00:37:33that everyone
00:37:33believes true
00:37:34and perhaps it is
00:37:35the hunter
00:37:36and perhaps it is
00:38:05the hunter
00:38:21The first time I heard
00:38:22this story
00:38:22I was just a child
00:38:24They told me about it
00:38:25one night
00:38:26next to the bonfire
00:38:27and in the middle of a mountain
00:38:29That's perhaps why
00:38:30I was deeply impressed
00:38:32someone confessed
00:38:33than to a friend
00:38:33from a friend
00:38:34had happened to him
00:38:35that had been found
00:38:36one night
00:38:36with a mysterious girl
00:38:38but then
00:38:39over the years
00:38:40I heard it
00:38:41to many other people
00:38:42Some swore
00:38:43which was true
00:38:43that a family member
00:38:44than a colleague
00:38:45work
00:38:45It had happened to him
00:38:47something impossible
00:38:49urban legends
00:38:50realities
00:38:51myths
00:38:52that leave
00:38:53expanding
00:38:54for the four points
00:38:54cardinals
00:38:55of our country
00:38:55I invite you
00:38:57to learn about this story
00:38:58and then
00:38:59Let's analyze it together
00:39:00is the event
00:39:02which some called
00:39:03of the jacket
00:39:05that night
00:39:06was presented
00:39:07Interesting for Julio
00:39:08on the bar
00:39:09he was able to see
00:39:10to a young woman
00:39:11different and solitary
00:39:13that attracted him
00:39:14from the very first moment
00:39:17soon engaged
00:39:18conversation
00:39:19And so they passed
00:39:20the hours
00:39:21as if everything
00:39:22It was a romantic dream
00:39:23near dawn
00:39:25They left the premises
00:39:26It was cold
00:39:27and decided
00:39:29leave your jacket
00:39:29to the unknown
00:39:31in return
00:39:32She offered him
00:39:33the address
00:39:34of your home
00:39:38after
00:39:39a cold farewell
00:39:41and the promise
00:39:42of a new meeting
00:39:50the next day
00:39:52decides to go and recover
00:39:53his jacket
00:39:54to the address
00:39:54that she had given him
00:40:01the girl's mother
00:40:02opened the door
00:40:04explaining to him
00:40:04between dazed
00:40:05and frightened
00:40:06who understands nothing
00:40:08Julio insists
00:40:09until that woman
00:40:10claims that her daughter
00:40:11had died
00:40:12three years ago
00:40:13in a fatal accident
00:40:20I couldn't believe it
00:40:25Such was his disbelief
00:40:27that the mother
00:40:27he asked
00:40:28that he would accompany him
00:40:29to the cemetery
00:40:30the heart
00:40:31July
00:40:32It was beating very strongly.
00:40:33and almost arrives
00:40:34to stop
00:40:35when approaching
00:40:36to the gravestone
00:40:37of that strange
00:40:38girl
00:40:38discovers, horrified
00:40:40that his jacket
00:40:41hung
00:40:42from one side
00:40:43from the tomb
00:40:46Well, there you have it.
00:40:47the story of the huntress
00:40:48as it is told
00:40:49even today
00:40:50year 2006
00:40:51And it's a story
00:40:52quite old
00:40:53that's the most amazing thing
00:40:54It has
00:40:55real root
00:40:56at that root
00:40:56has investigated
00:40:57our colleague
00:40:58Alberto Granados
00:40:59Good evening, Alberto.
00:40:59Good evening
00:41:00Hey, where did this happen?
00:41:01for the first time
00:41:02Well, look, you were saying it.
00:41:03I heard it at a camp
00:41:04I heard it
00:41:05I think a lot of people
00:41:06have you heard this urban legend
00:41:08and many different versions
00:41:10This is what we do have
00:41:11The good thing is that it's there.
00:41:12tied up in Talavera de la Reina
00:41:13It is said that this
00:41:14in a nightclub
00:41:16the androids disco
00:41:17in the 1980s
00:41:18a disturbing nightclub
00:41:20because it already
00:41:21it was being said
00:41:21that strange phenomena were occurring
00:41:23It was said that
00:41:24of the walls
00:41:25blood was flowing
00:41:25Strange sounds could be heard
00:41:27and all
00:41:28It appears that it happened
00:41:29in this nightclub
00:41:30who was also
00:41:31located on Alfares Street
00:41:32So it really existed.
00:41:34spoken with people there
00:41:35Alberto
00:41:35You, who are an expert
00:41:36in urban legends
00:41:36I realize
00:41:37that's what this has
00:41:38mysterious
00:41:39It's always
00:41:40a friend of a friend
00:41:41There is never any reliable data
00:41:42not a place
00:41:42not even an address
00:41:43Here it is for the moment
00:41:44in this case
00:41:46Yes, we do have
00:41:46to the address
00:41:47That nightclub existed.
00:41:48I even think that
00:41:49some local newspaper
00:41:49of the area
00:41:50the news was reported
00:41:51as if telling it
00:41:52as true
00:41:53We are accompanied by
00:41:54the anthropologist
00:41:54José Luis Cardero
00:41:55what stories
00:41:57of the dead who return
00:41:58He knows a thing or two
00:41:59José Luis
00:41:59good night
00:42:00hello good evening
00:42:01They are a constant
00:42:02throughout history
00:42:03the deceased who returns
00:42:04for a reason
00:42:04Yes, indeed.
00:42:05It's like
00:42:06as if
00:42:08were messengers
00:42:09messengers
00:42:10that they brought
00:42:11something
00:42:12some object
00:42:14some projection
00:42:15some presence
00:42:16that for some reason
00:42:18You can not pass
00:42:19in the world of the dead
00:42:21and he has to return
00:42:22again
00:42:23to the world of the living
00:42:24José Luis
00:42:24urban legends
00:42:26or the myths
00:42:27or whatever they are
00:42:27I say
00:42:28They almost always
00:42:29a root
00:42:29a root
00:42:30coming
00:42:30from way back
00:42:31We were talking a while ago
00:42:32of appeared
00:42:33on the road
00:42:34the great and eternal
00:42:35classical history
00:42:36of urban legends
00:42:37and already since the 17th century
00:42:38There are carriage ladies
00:42:40that appeared
00:42:40in northern Europe
00:42:41Something similar happens
00:42:42There are old stories
00:42:44that they may have
00:42:44certain similarity
00:42:45with this story
00:42:46of the jacket
00:42:46Yes, indeed.
00:42:48There are stories
00:42:49quite old
00:42:50of the 16th century
00:42:51of the 17th century
00:42:52of some ladies
00:42:54that appear
00:42:54because on the roads
00:42:56from that time
00:42:57There were no roads
00:42:58obviously
00:42:58There was no nighttime lighting either.
00:43:00but some presences
00:43:01that appear
00:43:02some like ghosts
00:43:03or spirits
00:43:03that appear
00:43:04on the road
00:43:04and that when the carriage
00:43:06it stops
00:43:07disappear
00:43:08disappear
00:43:09after investigating
00:43:11when the curious
00:43:13clear
00:43:13He is dedicated to researching
00:43:14this topic
00:43:14because it always appears
00:43:15some gruesome story
00:43:17some dramatic story
00:43:17which happened
00:43:19at that point
00:43:19and the romance of the afterlife
00:43:21It's a constant too.
00:43:22that is to say
00:43:22love affairs
00:43:23with someone who suddenly
00:43:24He's no longer alive
00:43:26that kind of story
00:43:26They have also accompanied
00:43:28the chronology of human beings
00:43:29for a long time
00:43:30Yes, obviously
00:43:31because love
00:43:31It is one of the forces
00:43:32that move
00:43:33not only
00:43:34human nature
00:43:35I would venture to say
00:43:36the entire universe
00:43:37above all
00:43:38the human universe
00:43:38Love is so strong
00:43:40that is capable of passing
00:43:41beyond death
00:43:42There are beautiful stories
00:43:44where
00:43:46when one of the two lovers
00:43:48dies
00:43:49wait
00:43:49wait
00:43:50in that interval space
00:43:52which are border places
00:43:53that are among the world
00:43:54of the living
00:43:54and the world of the dead
00:43:55waits for his partner
00:43:56so that he can meet with him
00:43:58and even calls him
00:43:59There are some stories
00:44:00I remember
00:44:01by Conan Doyle
00:44:02For example
00:44:02from the author of Sherlock Holmes
00:44:03a beautiful story
00:44:04which is called
00:44:05of the ghosts in the Arctic
00:44:06of a whaling captain
00:44:08that will die in the Arctic
00:44:10because he awaits him there
00:44:11the ghost of his wife
00:44:13indeed
00:44:13Love is something
00:44:14which is closely linked
00:44:16with death
00:44:16a relationship
00:44:17always present
00:44:19love and death
00:44:20that has adapted
00:44:21perfectly
00:44:21to the modern
00:44:22urban legends
00:44:23precisely
00:44:24many of these legends
00:44:25They have a macabre component
00:44:26the cemetery
00:44:27the cemetery
00:44:28a place that
00:44:29from
00:44:29that we are
00:44:30human beings
00:44:31We respect him
00:44:32We are afraid
00:44:33We even have it
00:44:34away from the town center
00:44:36We're going to talk too
00:44:36of cemeteries
00:44:37Alberto
00:44:38of this story
00:44:38also curiously
00:44:39There are versions
00:44:40Internet
00:44:41It also helps
00:44:42to what they say
00:44:42who was a motorcyclist
00:44:43different
00:44:44puzzles
00:44:45what it's all about at the end of the day
00:44:46that is the goal
00:44:46of urban legends
00:44:47it brings us a lesson
00:44:49in this case
00:44:49the main version
00:44:51and the one that hangs around the most
00:44:52online
00:44:52It's that of a motorcyclist
00:44:53who finds this girl
00:44:54on a rainy night
00:44:56She lends it to her hunter
00:44:57They have a few drinks
00:44:58and finally the girl
00:45:00He goes with him on the motorcycle.
00:45:01and it's a little
00:45:02It seems that the girl
00:45:03had had an accident
00:45:04motorcycle too
00:45:04And that's why he had died.
00:45:06It's a bit like
00:45:06the girl on the curve
00:45:08Well, more or less the same
00:45:09It's a version
00:45:10about that girl on the curve
00:45:11Well, this girl on the motorcycle
00:45:12already at a journalistic level
00:45:13and very important
00:45:14It has never been located
00:45:15to real witnesses
00:45:16with first and last names
00:45:17let them say
00:45:17I went
00:45:18the one with the jacket
00:45:19the one who found
00:45:20the huntress in the tomb
00:45:21This would be the key
00:45:21exact
00:45:22has never appeared
00:45:23Nor do I think they will appear.
00:45:24these kinds of urban legends
00:45:26that if they are
00:45:26especially based
00:45:27in real events
00:45:28if possible
00:45:29something like that
00:45:30has occurred
00:45:31a long time ago
00:45:31but for now
00:45:33nothing has been proven
00:45:34There's nothing at the moment.
00:45:34José Luis
00:45:35we talk about tombs
00:45:36where that element appears
00:45:37that object that the dead man brings
00:45:38according to legend
00:45:40Why doesn't he keep giving
00:45:41Did the cemetery require so much attention?
00:45:42Is it still another border town?
00:45:44Yes, of course.
00:45:45It is a border town
00:45:46one of the typical border places
00:45:47What happens to border areas?
00:45:49first of all
00:45:50They are paradoxical places
00:45:52that is to say
00:45:52are places where
00:45:54the differences disappear
00:45:55that human beings
00:45:57we are establishing
00:45:58continuously
00:45:59in our world
00:46:00male or female
00:46:01black or white
00:46:02good or bad
00:46:03that is to say
00:46:03Our world is based on
00:46:04in a permanent classification
00:46:06well then
00:46:07border places
00:46:08those are the spaces
00:46:09that are located
00:46:10between two worlds
00:46:11where apart from meeting
00:46:12two worlds
00:46:13they become blurred
00:46:14these differences
00:46:16and these classifications
00:46:17that we do
00:46:18That's why
00:46:19hence
00:46:19many objects
00:46:20that the dead bring us
00:46:22It's as if
00:46:23some force
00:46:24would reject them
00:46:25from that world of the dead
00:46:26towards us
00:46:27They're like a species
00:46:28of testimony
00:46:29which testifies to us
00:46:30that visit
00:46:31has taken
00:46:32that?
00:46:33all urban legends
00:46:34all modern myths
00:46:35They have a purpose
00:46:37a moral
00:46:37They are counted for a reason
00:46:39Why would it be counted?
00:46:40this story
00:46:40so seemingly strange
00:46:42and absurd
00:46:43of the jacket
00:46:43Jorge Luis?
00:46:44Well, I don't know.
00:46:45I believe that the viewers
00:46:47They must have seen it
00:46:48There are two
00:46:49two fundamental constants
00:46:50in the dead
00:46:51in the dead
00:46:52that return
00:46:52one of them
00:46:53It is thirst
00:46:54inextinguishable
00:46:55of the dead
00:46:56which is one thing
00:46:56which is attested
00:46:57from thousands of years ago
00:46:59and one other thing
00:47:00It's the cold
00:47:00of the dead
00:47:01thirst and cold
00:47:01in all the legends
00:47:02in all the legends
00:47:03practically
00:47:04from ancient Egypt
00:47:05to this day
00:47:06They're like two
00:47:08characteristics
00:47:09peculiar
00:47:10that distinguish
00:47:10to the dead
00:47:11the dead
00:47:11They are distinguished by that
00:47:12because they are thirsty
00:47:13and they are cold
00:47:14But how do we interpret it?
00:47:15us?
00:47:16Well, we actually
00:47:17we have to interpret it
00:47:18asking us a big question
00:47:20first
00:47:20Why do the dead come back?
00:47:22What is the reason?
00:47:23of that return?
00:47:24without a doubt it is
00:47:25always to warn us
00:47:26of something
00:47:27to give us some sign
00:47:28or to teach us something
00:47:31to say
00:47:31Well
00:47:31Something is wrong
00:47:32in your world
00:47:33I bring you this message
00:47:35so you can correct it
00:47:37Because of course
00:47:37obviously
00:47:37It's a very hard blow
00:47:39receiving the visit
00:47:40of a dead person
00:47:40however
00:47:41there is another constant
00:47:42that I would like to highlight
00:47:43And that's because
00:47:44the dead
00:47:44They never broadcast
00:47:45clear messages
00:47:47your messages
00:47:47they are always
00:47:48to put it a certain way
00:47:50under a
00:47:51under a
00:47:52under a secret
00:47:54or like a cryptogram
00:47:56that we
00:47:56We have to learn
00:47:57to decipher
00:47:58so
00:47:59For that reason
00:48:01It is very possible
00:48:02that the witnesses
00:48:02never appear
00:48:03because
00:48:05normally
00:48:06It's a message
00:48:07that only addresses
00:48:08to certain people
00:48:09who are trained
00:48:10to receive that message
00:48:11It's for someone.
00:48:12very specific
00:48:12It's a message
00:48:13very specific
00:48:13for someone
00:48:14This could be the case
00:48:15For example
00:48:15a message for the mother
00:48:16It could be a message
00:48:18for this person
00:48:19that was approaching
00:48:20temporarily
00:48:21let's say
00:48:22with a little bit of
00:48:23disparagement
00:48:24towards these things
00:48:25And that is beyond doubt
00:48:26It is also
00:48:27very interesting
00:48:27that the place
00:48:28where it occurs
00:48:28have a background
00:48:30that happen there
00:48:31strange things
00:48:31because there are marked places
00:48:33What are these places?
00:48:34border
00:48:35contact
00:48:36between our world
00:48:37and that other reality
00:48:38that human beings
00:48:39We've been around for thousands of years
00:48:40asking ourselves
00:48:41what does it consist of
00:48:42well we
00:48:43in fourth millennium
00:48:44we will continue to address
00:48:45a topic that is
00:48:46in full swing
00:48:47in training
00:48:47that new technologies
00:48:48They are helping
00:48:49to transform
00:48:50constantly
00:48:50and something happens
00:48:52on the net
00:48:52which is already a parallel world
00:48:53Nobody knows what's true
00:48:54which is a lie
00:48:55How long has it been there?
00:48:56if the information is reliable
00:48:58and everything is an immense
00:48:59hodgepodge
00:48:59Here's Alberto
00:49:00We will try to dot the dots.
00:49:01on the chairs
00:49:02and tell other stories like that
00:49:04that today
00:49:05They continue to be counted
00:49:07through various points in Spain
00:49:08seem to you?
00:49:08Yes, also caution.
00:49:09because they say that
00:49:09through Talavera de la Reina
00:49:10It still keeps appearing
00:49:11the spectrum
00:49:12So...
00:49:13We'll leave it at that.
00:49:13Alberto, thank you very much.
00:49:14José Luis, thank you very much
00:49:16thank you so much
00:49:16by the way
00:49:17This was definitely news.
00:49:18around the year 1883-1884
00:49:19when that disco
00:49:20It was reported in the regional press
00:49:22as Alberto Granados said
00:49:24commenting on the strange story
00:49:25of the jacket
00:49:26can send us
00:49:27of course their stories
00:49:28because many are sure
00:49:30that are transforming
00:49:31little by little
00:49:31and acquiring
00:49:32new meanings
00:49:33which undoubtedly
00:49:33They have a reason.
00:49:34But what's making headlines now
00:49:36what has been in the news today
00:49:37It's also very interesting
00:49:39Let's get to that
00:49:39with what has happened
00:49:40in this 7-day chronicle
00:50:04according to the story
00:50:05and also the American air force
00:50:07a strange object
00:50:08It crashed in Roswell
00:50:08in 1947
00:50:09And some say
00:50:10that the crew
00:50:12of that ship
00:50:12perhaps from outer space
00:50:13were recovered
00:50:14and autopsied
00:50:15no more, no less
00:50:16a decade ago
00:50:17a bunch of chains
00:50:19television
00:50:20important in the world
00:50:21even in our country
00:50:21They paid large sums
00:50:23of money
00:50:23for airing a documentary
00:50:25with this individual
00:50:26this supposed alien
00:50:28the truth is that
00:50:29many of us think
00:50:30which was a huge fraud
00:50:31Now she looks like Carmen
00:50:33that the suspicions
00:50:33have been definitively confirmed
00:50:34It's a bizarre story
00:50:37full
00:50:37and that from the beginning
00:50:38until the end
00:50:39as it has happened
00:50:40the news
00:50:40that has emerged
00:50:41on April 6th
00:50:43in the newspaper
00:50:44Manchester Evening News
00:50:45apparently
00:50:47Ray Santilli
00:50:48which is the first
00:50:48who sells this film
00:50:50to the various
00:50:52televisions
00:50:53worldwide
00:50:54I knew perfectly well
00:50:55that it was
00:50:55of a fraud
00:50:56also made by him
00:50:57from the beginning
00:50:58has been deceiving
00:50:59to everyone
00:51:00until
00:51:01the sculptor
00:51:02the filmmaker
00:51:03of these dolls
00:51:04tripudos
00:51:04these extraterrestrials
00:51:06who were coming
00:51:06from outer space
00:51:08has come to light
00:51:09is called
00:51:10John Humphreys
00:51:10And he says
00:51:11Well, that's great!
00:51:12He did both
00:51:13to the beings
00:51:14that we are seeing
00:51:15of which later
00:51:16There have been reenactments
00:51:17by other artists
00:51:19as well
00:51:20the movie
00:51:21Because, look at that
00:51:21That's curious.
00:51:22which also
00:51:23of being a sculptor
00:51:24also
00:51:24in the filming
00:51:26He played a doctor
00:51:27the one who performed
00:51:28the autopsy
00:51:29to these dolls
00:51:30which are
00:51:31what it does
00:51:31extra
00:51:32during the filming itself
00:51:33indeed
00:51:33also
00:51:34upon being caught
00:51:35Santilli
00:51:36because he had to testify
00:51:37and said that was good
00:51:38the story
00:51:39It's more outlandish
00:51:40if there's still room
00:51:41because he said that
00:51:43the reality is that
00:51:44He reaches even him
00:51:44to a movie
00:51:45but that is
00:51:46very deteriorated
00:51:47So what?
00:51:48they want to do
00:51:49is to recreate
00:51:50that movie
00:51:51where indeed
00:51:51Yes, it is done.
00:51:52an extraterrestrial autopsy
00:51:54So, according to him
00:51:56come on
00:51:56You have to have a lot
00:51:58shameless
00:51:58to put it mildly
00:51:59Yes, there is a recording.
00:52:00real of an extraterrestrial
00:52:01But what he sold
00:52:02It's a recreation
00:52:03modern
00:52:03Yes, and not only that.
00:52:05says that in recreation
00:52:06that he does
00:52:07includes some fragments
00:52:08from the actual filming
00:52:09They put it on one of the televisions
00:52:11which he/she attends
00:52:12these days
00:52:12that filming
00:52:13But what a coincidence!
00:52:15that he doesn't know how to recognize
00:52:16at no time
00:52:16which are the real fragments
00:52:19Interesting, isn't it?
00:52:20and that it was used
00:52:21for the extraterrestrial
00:52:22It seems there was
00:52:22lamb's feet
00:52:23goat brains
00:52:24that is to say
00:52:25a compendium of things
00:52:26that were not out of this world
00:52:27not at all
00:52:27It looks like they went to the butcher shop.
00:52:29to recover
00:52:30all kinds of tripe
00:52:32brains
00:52:33sheep brains
00:52:34to recreate what the brain was like
00:52:36because in the autopsy
00:52:36as we see
00:52:37It also opens for him
00:52:38the head
00:52:39the leg of lamb
00:52:40where you see that he has the wound
00:52:42after having crashed
00:52:43with the UFO
00:52:44in the end
00:52:44who pick up a rabbit's foot
00:52:46another one of lamb
00:52:46the brains of a sheep
00:52:48and recreate
00:52:49this alien being
00:52:50Well
00:52:50end of the story
00:52:51end of filming
00:52:52that provided
00:52:53millions of dollars
00:52:54to the creators
00:52:56of this gigantic joke
00:52:57as follows
00:52:58I don't know if this is a joke.
00:52:58Carmen
00:52:59as follows
00:53:00This is no joke
00:53:01at least
00:53:01That's what he thinks
00:53:02the family
00:53:03They say the face
00:53:04of Jesus Christ
00:53:05has appeared
00:53:06in a cup
00:53:07chocolate
00:53:07everything has happened
00:53:09in a humble dwelling
00:53:10Colombian
00:53:11hundreds of people
00:53:12have already arrived
00:53:12up to there
00:53:13to contemplate
00:53:14what the curious
00:53:15believe
00:53:15which is the face of Jesus
00:53:16and that has appeared
00:53:17as we see it
00:53:18in a cup of hot chocolate
00:53:19apparently the facts
00:53:20produced
00:53:21on April 12th
00:53:22when the Rojas family
00:53:23He was about to have breakfast
00:53:25Let's see
00:53:26Dorelei Rojas
00:53:27She tells us
00:53:28how they occurred
00:53:29the facts
00:53:30we were there
00:53:31when the son-in-law
00:53:32served the chocolate
00:53:33to the daughter
00:53:33when the glass was placed
00:53:35He took refuge there
00:53:36And he came and said
00:53:37have a mother-in-law
00:53:37you who are such a believer
00:53:38Look, here I bring you
00:53:39the Lord
00:53:40that here it is
00:53:40He didn't look good then.
00:53:42the more times
00:53:42We've seen it clearly.
00:53:43so
00:53:43We know that.
00:53:45which is a blessing
00:53:47of God
00:53:47who arrived at the house
00:53:48immediately
00:53:48that's why the neighbors
00:53:49they started to go
00:53:50they started to say
00:53:51that truly
00:53:52had appeared
00:53:53that Christ
00:53:54at home
00:53:55and that they had to form
00:53:56there an altar
00:53:56And so it is
00:53:57the police
00:53:58has had to cordon off
00:53:59the area
00:53:59given the amount
00:54:00of people
00:54:01that they want to see
00:54:01such a curious image
00:54:02incredible
00:54:03Of course
00:54:03I'm not trying to be irreverent
00:54:05taking it a little
00:54:05with humor
00:54:06There is toast
00:54:07with the Virgin
00:54:08There is ham
00:54:09ham leg
00:54:10in Spain
00:54:10with the face of Jesus
00:54:11and now
00:54:11a cup of chocolate
00:54:12Of course
00:54:13It sounds a bit comical.
00:54:14to put it mildly
00:54:16And let's move on to another topic.
00:54:17which also
00:54:17Today we are very skeptical
00:54:18navigate through fraud
00:54:19and reality
00:54:19a monster
00:54:20of a lake
00:54:21And it's not Loch Ness.
00:54:22No
00:54:22It is an Argentinian lake
00:54:24besides
00:54:24everything also happens
00:54:25in a very curious way
00:54:26last week
00:54:27an individual
00:54:28it is presented
00:54:29in an Argentinian newspaper
00:54:30and leaves three photographs
00:54:32we are already seeing
00:54:33one of them
00:54:34the newspaper
00:54:34in which it is presented
00:54:36This man
00:54:36is the mountain man
00:54:37he claims he had taken them
00:54:39April 15th
00:54:40on the lake
00:54:41Nahuel Huapi
00:54:42where legend tells
00:54:43that a monster inhabits
00:54:44large dimensions
00:54:45apparently
00:54:46that man
00:54:46of which still
00:54:47has not been identified
00:54:48nor is there any data
00:54:49left it at reception
00:54:50from the newspaper
00:54:51an envelope with these three images
00:54:53and a note
00:54:54The note said
00:54:55It's not a log.
00:54:56of whimsical shapes
00:54:57It's not a wave
00:54:58Nahuelito
00:54:59showed his face
00:55:00Lake Nahuel Huapi
00:55:01Saturday, April 15
00:55:03nine hours
00:55:03I don't give out my details
00:55:04to save me future trouble
00:55:06in the images
00:55:07taken
00:55:08and that it was a very short distance
00:55:09of the lake
00:55:09can be seen
00:55:10what appears to be
00:55:10a large snake
00:55:12But how has it happened?
00:55:13on other occasions
00:55:14We need to be very skeptical
00:55:15with these shots
00:55:16because most of them
00:55:18as we can see here
00:55:19They are outright frauds
00:55:21they sound so real to us
00:55:22like the Roswell alien
00:55:24and with that
00:55:25Everything has been said
00:55:26But now we've changed.
00:55:27the course of things
00:55:28radically
00:55:29I told them
00:55:30that they would not forget
00:55:31of the face
00:55:31of an individual
00:55:32the one who frightened
00:55:33to the people
00:55:34of the Provincial Council of Granada
00:55:35And now in a few minutes
00:55:36we penetrate
00:55:37in what was
00:55:37a sealed place
00:55:38a scary place
00:55:39an environment
00:55:40where many officials
00:55:42They believed it was an evil entity.
00:55:43had taken over
00:55:44of all of them
00:55:45and what he was doing to them
00:55:46pass the decay
00:55:47real events
00:55:48creepy
00:55:49recordings
00:55:50bites
00:55:51invisible
00:55:52aggressions
00:55:52discovery of skulls
00:55:53of corpses
00:55:54all that
00:55:55In a place
00:55:56that once had no windows
00:55:57and that also has
00:55:58a dark history
00:55:59a history of suicides
00:56:00a story
00:56:01of places
00:56:02who were always involved
00:56:03in death stories
00:56:05Let's get to know him
00:56:06the case
00:56:07Granada Provincial Council
00:56:17Number
00:56:56Thanks for watching the video.
00:57:09Something must have happened in that place, something that deep down we have never been able to know or understand.
00:57:14But overnight, the old building on Mesones Street, which belongs to the Granada Provincial Council,
00:57:19It became a living hell.
00:57:21Many of the officials were women, because they were initially female staff and even cleaning women,
00:57:27those who alerted that something strange was happening and that he was directly attacking them.
00:57:32Some said they noticed a hand firmly gripping their hair, pulling hard.
00:57:37There are also those who claimed that a figure with a supernatural appearance, due to his black robes, looked as if he were a priest.
00:57:46From another time, he wandered through some corridors.
00:57:48This must definitely be an unfounded legend.
00:57:50But time passed and the silence was broken the day José Luis Hermida, vice president of the Provincial Council
00:57:58She simply said enough was enough.
00:58:00It was necessary to investigate what was happening.
00:58:02There were too many testimonies, and many of them had seen the strange shadow.
00:58:06The strange shadow of that priest, whom some even claimed may have lived there years ago.
00:58:11Everything turned into a string of very unpleasant events.
00:58:16Aggressions, bites that seemed like those of small children, strange voices, lights, movement of objects.
00:58:21All of that in a place that isn't very big.
00:58:23A place we want to explore with you.
00:58:25A place that had been closed in its own secret for 20 years.
00:58:29This is the case of the Provincial Council of Granada.
00:58:32There are thousands of buildings like this one scattered throughout Spain.
00:58:37Seemingly anonymous buildings that house official bodies.
00:58:41Rooms and spaces where hundreds of officials work.
00:58:45Only a few harbor a dark past that seems capable of surfacing at the most unexpected moments.
00:58:52Mysterious, enigmatic, paranormal events have occurred that official science has not been able to fully explain.
00:59:00Not even those who have been tasked with it through investigations by parapsychology groups.
00:59:09The Provincial Council itself kept it secret and hidden because it could be a Spanish X-File, one of the many that
00:59:18They exist.
00:59:25It was the mid-1980s.
00:59:27And for some time, several workers in the official building of the Granada Provincial Council had been complaining about the strange
00:59:34noises they heard some nights.
00:59:37What began as a simple discomfort gradually evolved into a much more aggressive poltergeist case.
00:59:43There was talk of typewriters that typed by themselves, of children's cries, and above all, of a strange and
00:59:50prolonged presence.
00:59:53The staff were uneasy because strange things were happening; the girls, the employees, when they went to the restrooms, would pull on...
01:00:04the hairs,
01:00:05The security guards didn't want to do night patrols because they were scared; they saw strange things, flashes, voices.
01:00:13and he asked me if I wanted to go talk to his boss.
01:00:20The members of the defunct Omega Investigations team, led by Juan Burgos,
01:00:26They were able to spend several nights inside the building verifying the existence of strange phenomena on site.
01:00:31that could never be explained.
01:00:33One of the people who was able to see how the impossible suddenly materialized was Pilar Perry.
01:00:41What I personally saw in a huge room, where there were about six or seven of us completely silent and
01:00:48in the dark,
01:00:49Well, some lights on the ceiling, some long lights, white, not white, yellowish white,
01:00:54And then they would go, I don't know, how to tell you, they would go from one place to another and after a little while they would come back,
01:01:01But not in a rhythmic way, but, well, in their own way, right?
01:01:06So I thought, well, you always think in a certain way, I don't know, you look for the logical answer first, right?
01:01:12And then I thought, well, this must be some kind of car, but of course, then it turns out that the building was a sealed warehouse.
01:01:17In other words, it didn't have any windows, so there couldn't be anything, no leaks from anywhere.
01:01:22And we were in the dark.
01:01:25But the Omega team, officially authorized with a permit that was groundbreaking in our country's history,
01:01:31Not only was he able to observe that night some strange lights wandering around the interior of the building's courtyard.
01:01:37A little later, they clearly confirmed those long and pitiful cries.
01:01:42which ended up spreading unease among experienced parapsychologists.
01:01:47We were on the top floor and it turned out we were trying to record EVP (Electronic Voice Phenomena).
01:01:54On each floor we had a recorder trying to capture EVP because a fairly clear EVP had been recorded there, right?
01:02:00The first one.
01:02:02So we had that, and of course, we were all completely silent.
01:02:05And suddenly there start to be voices of men, of three or four men, but they start to argue.
01:02:12In other words, voices that you could clearly hear arguing.
01:02:16You didn't understand what they were saying, but there was a heated argument, wasn't there?
01:02:20Even I thought, man, the EVP recordings are going to ruin it for us.
01:02:24Well, there was nobody there.
01:02:26There was nobody there.
01:02:27That night of official investigation was not the only one experienced by the members of the Omega group.
01:02:33But due to the virulence of the phenomena and considering that the building in question was located in a
01:02:39of the oldest historical areas of Granada,
01:02:42They decided to investigate the origin of the property.
01:02:45Their investigations confirmed that the building's past was much darker and more sinister than they had imagined.
01:02:51initially.
01:02:52When the news came out in the Ideal newspaper and a few days had passed, I made some statements,
01:03:00The architect from the provincial council, who carried out the remodeling work, called me.
01:03:07And he told me that he, personally, upon opening that opening, that arch, found several skeletal remains of newborns.
01:03:23and among them that of an adult.
01:03:27The surprises had only just begun in the bowels of that sinister building.
01:03:40And another night of true terror still awaited the members of the Omega investigation group.
01:03:44who, I repeat, attended officially at the request of the Granada Provincial Council itself.
01:03:49Perhaps the most shocking aspect of this story at this point is the macabre discovery of an adult's body.
01:03:55next to several children's skeletons inside a wall as if walled up.
01:03:59Does this make any sense? Could it be the catalyst for the phenomena that followed?
01:04:04We're going to try to clear it up here tonight, with some exceptional guests.
01:04:07One of them is already a regular contributor to this team, fortunately for us,
01:04:11Forensic psychiatrist, Dr. José Cabrera. Welcome.
01:04:13Hello good evening.
01:04:14Is it common to find an adult human body alongside several small ones inside a wall?
01:04:21Well, it's not common, but it is true that many years ago in convents, churches, etc.,
01:04:25There were nuns, so to speak, who gave birth there or who didn't even come to give birth, from noble classes.
01:04:31And when that child died or was never born, he was buried to avoid matters of honor and such.
01:04:37Then again, it's not too strange for a place that was a convent before.
01:04:40So, have there been other cases where there have been, let's say, similar findings?
01:04:44Yes, it has been discovered, especially in the crypts of some convents or sites where there has been a convent,
01:04:50burials of this type.
01:04:51Our colleague Juan Jesús Vallejo has had the good fortune, and it must be said clearly,
01:04:55This is a milestone in the world of mystery.
01:04:58For 20 years, 20 long years, the history of the Provincial Council remained absolutely sealed.
01:05:03There hadn't been an opportunity to investigate inside that building again.
01:05:06Our colleague Juan G. was there.
01:05:09I imagine the feelings, although that, Juan G., good night, you'll tell us about later.
01:05:13First, let's highlight the history of this place, which, as the doctor rightly says,
01:05:17It may have something to do with the arrival of his bones.
01:05:20There is a long and dark history.
01:05:21It is a place that has always been macabre in the history of Granada.
01:05:23Besides, I'm from Granada; I've lived there all my life.
01:05:26And I must say that, well, as curiosities, very close by was what was known as the Arch of
01:05:30the Ears,
01:05:31which led to Bir Rambla square.
01:05:33The "Arch of the Ears" was used because the ears of people who were surprised were cut off.
01:05:37stealing from the market in the Middle Ages, in the Arab world, in the Muslim world.
01:05:41Later on, there are chronicles that tell of how in the Magdalene convent,
01:05:46A carriage standing right in front of the door suffers, let's say, a sudden fright.
01:05:50and it runs over, at least, and there is at least one dead in that carriage stampede.
01:05:54And then, even when it becomes a convent, or a private building,
01:05:59One of the caretakers of that building ended up hanging himself on the banks of the Genil River.
01:06:03In other words, it's a place that has always been surrounded by a dark history
01:06:05which made Granada always a place, let's say, tragic and macabre.
01:06:09Well, doctor, is it suggestion, pure suggestion, the pure contagion of fear?
01:06:14Can this cause these types of hallucinations?
01:06:17Well, it should be clearly stated that fear can cause death.
01:06:21Voodoo death is death by pure fear.
01:06:24Therefore, if fear can lead to death, fear can also cause one to see things that do not exist.
01:06:27You can hear noises that may not actually be noises, and much more.
01:06:31Fear is an element, and when it turns into panic, which is extreme fear,
01:06:34Incredible, incredible things can happen.
01:06:37We will analyze it from the point of view of psychiatry and journalistic investigation.
01:06:42and paranormal what happened on that second night where the events
01:06:45They rushed headlong and unstoppable.
01:06:49I repeat, a night of terror.
01:06:50By the way, Juanje, what's it like working at the Granada Provincial Council?
01:06:53Man, today it's a very different building.
01:06:55Keep in mind that the Provincial Council, when these phenomena occurred in 1986,
01:06:58in December of '86, because it was a concrete building, without windows, very closed off,
01:07:06with only one caravel in the middle, but today it is a much remodeled building,
01:07:11full of windows, although on the night of investigation I was able to be there
01:07:14Yes, two strange elements or phenomena occurred.
01:07:18An appearance of some faces that we will later see on closed-circuit television
01:07:22with an infrared camera, a monitor, and then an elevator that suddenly
01:07:25and for no apparent reason it stopped working.
01:07:27Okay, don't tell us any more, let's find out.
01:07:30Night of investigation, after 20 years, with new official permits,
01:07:33We would like to take this opportunity to thank all the officials of the Granada Provincial Council.
01:07:37which have allowed the cameras of the fourth millennium to re-examine
01:07:40and remember the story of a phenomenon that ended up generating a kind
01:07:45of the spiral of fear that has kept many mouths sealed for now.
01:07:48There are people, some doctors, for example, who were there that night
01:07:52and that they have difficulty speaking.
01:07:53There are many who prefer to forget.
01:07:55Why? Perhaps because of what happened on that last night, December 23, 1986.
01:08:02Official investigation, midnight, Granada Provincial Council.
01:08:07After what they had experienced and discovered, it was clear to the members of the Omega research team
01:08:12that this was not just another case.
01:08:14This building had hidden something inside since time immemorial that seemed truly malevolent.
01:08:23On December 23, 1986, several members of the group returned again
01:08:28to brave the night inside the building.
01:08:38We conducted an investigation in which we simultaneously used the recorders to make the recordings,
01:08:45to see if any EVP could be heard or anything else could be recorded.
01:08:49At the same time, each floor also had an infrared camera that fired sporadically.
01:08:56in case any images appeared that could also be collected.
01:09:00Then, in the room downstairs, a Ouija board was being used.
01:09:05in case there was a spirit that wanted to manifest itself to him.
01:09:08Come on, we were making it pretty easy.
01:09:10And then, on each floor there were two completely dark, silent researchers,
01:09:16Quietly, of course, so as not to...
01:09:19They were just watching, weren't they?
01:09:24But that early morning was not going to be like the others either.
01:09:28Several members of the group spread out to different rooms in the building
01:09:32with the purpose of leaving different energy measuring devices
01:09:36and recorders that were capable of detecting possible paranormal activity.
01:09:41The first few hours passed normally,
01:09:44until one of the researchers, Juan Burgos,
01:09:47He passed close to the gap in the wall that years before had housed children's skeletons.
01:09:52Then, right at that moment,
01:09:55An electromagnetic field disturbance meter tripped.
01:09:59A bolt of lightning shot out from the wall and struck the hand of that terrified man.
01:10:04Just as I approached with that field meter to take the measurements,
01:10:09The meter alarm went off, both the audible and visual alarms.
01:10:14and an electric arc jumped from the wall to the device and it fell.
01:10:22It fell to the floor, the lid opened, I thought it was broken.
01:10:26When I was picking it up and assembling it,
01:10:30Then smoke started to come out of the low wall.
01:10:34I initially thought it was a short circuit or something.
01:10:39I even asked for a fire extinguisher, something's burning here, like.
01:10:43But amazingly, that dense smoke began to take shape,
01:10:51a kind of monolith,
01:10:54and even to the point of configuring a face.
01:10:58When panic had already taken hold of some of those present
01:11:01who fled from the room,
01:11:03It appeared slowly and mysteriously, from the same wall,
01:11:07a dense mist that gradually took on a human form,
01:11:09and that she moved stealthily around the cabin
01:11:12until he disappeared into an adjoining room.
01:11:15The witnesses created a composite sketch of what they had seen.
01:11:19When that face was first broadcast on regional television,
01:11:23The surprise was enormous.
01:11:25It appears to have stemmed from a joint bet.
01:11:28of the perceptions that the members of the Omega group have had
01:11:32and which is then refreshed in a subsequent meeting
01:11:41so that a cartoonist from Granada, from the Ideal newspaper,
01:11:47could be carried out in an artistic manner.
01:11:51So what appears in the famous drawing
01:11:53It's a composite sketch of the whole, of everything that had been seen,
01:11:59starting with what Juan Burgos saw.
01:12:02From that night on, nothing was ever the same.
01:12:05for none of the members of the Omega association.
01:12:08When Juan Burgos's hand was analyzed,
01:12:11It was possible to verify the mark it had left
01:12:14that strange ray on his skin
01:12:15It looked like it had been made by the pressure of tiny incisors,
01:12:19like those a child possesses.
01:12:21Yes, there was a doctor who was a great friend of mine.
01:12:23and that he was part of the research group
01:12:27And when the arch popped up, I went to grab the device.
01:12:31with flashlights that had infrared filters and so on,
01:12:36He made the comment to me,
01:12:37Juan says, "Is your hand bleeding a little?"
01:12:41I mean, yeah, I don't know,
01:12:43That must have been what jumped off the wall.
01:12:46He says, but it's shaped like a bite, isn't it?
01:12:49Like you'd been bitten or something.
01:12:52I mean, I don't know, do you think so, Juan?
01:12:54No no.
01:12:55He says, yes, yes, yes, it has the perfect shape,
01:12:57I mean, but it doesn't look like a bite with teeth.
01:13:01He says, well, but it has all the right shape,
01:13:03They are like incisors and are marked.
01:13:07At that moment I thought it was the electric arc itself.
01:13:10that I had burned myself, I had...
01:13:12Well, then there were many arguments about that brand.
01:13:20Of course, it wasn't an electric arc.
01:13:24Twenty years have passed since these events.
01:13:27And we too wanted to spend a night in this property,
01:13:31in the company of the main protagonists.
01:13:34The important thing today
01:13:36It's about the hypothetical presences that swarm around this building
01:13:40They seem to remain immersed in a strange lethargy.
01:13:44Some pray that they never wake up.
01:13:53The cartoonist Soria, from Ideal de Granada,
01:13:56He compiled this composite sketch using various testimonies.
01:13:59And the big surprise comes when many people,
01:14:03especially the people who lived nearby
01:14:05to what was formerly the Corpus Christi convent,
01:14:08after the Magdalena, after a series of warehouses,
01:14:11They even recognized physical presence
01:14:14of a person who was like that.
01:14:17Jorge, begin the identification process
01:14:19of the alleged author of these strange phenomena.
01:14:22The incredible thing is that what they see,
01:14:24that mist that witnesses see after the electric arc,
01:14:27which takes the form of a face,
01:14:30this face we have here,
01:14:31later appears on a television program
01:14:33and the people who live on Mesones Street
01:14:35He recognizes it immediately
01:14:37with an old priest who was walking
01:14:39and that it was in a church very close to the place
01:14:41who was known as Father Benito.
01:14:42Father Benito.
01:14:43Indeed.
01:14:44He lived into the 20th century.
01:14:45Indeed, he lived into the 20th century
01:14:47and he walked along that street and near that convent a thousand times.
01:14:51Many times, according to the chronicles,
01:14:53accompanied by children,
01:14:54I imagine they received instruction or schooling
01:14:57or a thousand things,
01:14:59But was the adult's body investigated?
01:15:02Never.
01:15:02Because Antonio Rodríguez,
01:15:04the provincial council architect,
01:15:06the one who does the work,
01:15:07He also literally told Juan Burgos
01:15:10He was surprised when they were chipping away at that wall.
01:15:13It's because there were some of the bricks
01:15:14that did not correspond to that ancient era
01:15:18which was supposedly the one from the convent.
01:15:20As if it might have been played afterwards.
01:15:22A mystery that will remain there forever and ever.
01:15:24But they never relinquished any part of the authority.
01:15:26of those bones that appeared there.
01:15:29Therefore, it is a mystery that time will swallow forever.
01:15:31An interesting mystery,
01:15:32because one of the first calls received
01:15:34when that image of Father Benito appears on television
01:15:37It is nothing short of overwhelming,
01:15:38It has to be said like this.
01:15:39A woman from Granada claims
01:15:41that the face of the supposed Father Benito
01:15:44It's also in a painting he has at home, behind him.
01:15:47How is that possible?
01:15:49It was a painting that reflected
01:15:50to a group of religious people from that convent.
01:15:53That face did indeed belong to Father Benito.
01:15:56But we have heard and we have seen
01:15:58many phenomena that are hard to believe,
01:16:01but they were seen by doctors
01:16:03who were there that night.
01:16:05Doctors who, I repeat, have kept their mouths shut.
01:16:08Mouth, like that of a small child,
01:16:10which is embedded in Juan Burgos's hand,
01:16:12one of the researchers.
01:16:14Is there any explanation, doctor?
01:16:17Because there isn't much of an explanation for a child's incisors.
01:16:20They get stuck in your hand out of nowhere, I say.
01:16:22Those wounds on his hand,
01:16:24if an electric arc did indeed jump,
01:16:26It could have been a very simple explanation,
01:16:28that there was a potential difference
01:16:29And with the humidity in the environment, water conducts electricity.
01:16:32And electricity when it strikes a part of a body
01:16:36It causes small ulcers
01:16:37that look like the incisors of a bite.
01:16:41Therefore, the explanation for a forensic expert,
01:16:43as is my case,
01:16:44That could be the effect.
01:16:45from that electric shock that has fallen on the hand.
01:16:48And the explanation for the doctor who was there,
01:16:50With all due respect,
01:16:51who was under the influence of collective suggestion,
01:16:54darkness, etcetera, etcetera,
01:16:56It could be the one my colleague explained.
01:16:58In other words, the whole impression could be of incisors.
01:17:01That is my position,
01:17:02a little more eclectic perhaps,
01:17:04But well, it's also compatible with the other explanation.
01:17:07Very interesting, indeed.
01:17:08Because what this is about is that each one
01:17:09Let's be a potential researcher
01:17:11and let's try to see the different phenomena
01:17:13and give them an explanation.
01:17:15But, precisely, around midnight
01:17:18Something happened, Juanje,
01:17:19Something like this, and I want you to explain it to us.
01:17:21Well, that's what fuels my reasonable doubt.
01:17:23about this story.
01:17:25I believe the devices cannot bring their collective management.
01:17:27In this case, what we are trying to do
01:17:29It's a closed-circuit television system
01:17:31with an infrared camera to a monitor.
01:17:34I mean, I was recording nothing,
01:17:36so that people can understand me.
01:17:37So, in that recording of nothingness,
01:17:39with that monitor facing an infrared camera,
01:17:42There comes a moment when, suddenly,
01:17:44I took this photograph with my camera.
01:17:46because I see that in the upper left
01:17:48from the monitor image
01:17:49What seems to me to be forming is...
01:17:52a face, I think that's clear here.
01:17:53It was visible in the recording itself.
01:17:55Yes, yes, yes, it was perfectly visible
01:17:56And that's why I took this photograph.
01:17:59Later, another photograph appears,
01:18:01which I hope they'll show us now too,
01:18:03where another small face appeared.
01:18:06But honestly, what isn't Iker?
01:18:09I don't think we'll ever know.
01:18:11Doctor.
01:18:12This has a technical name.
01:18:13I always feel bad about being the downer, don't I?
01:18:16But as a doctor, I have to act this way.
01:18:18In psychiatry, this is called pareidolia.
01:18:20Pareidolia is the same as when one sees a cloud
01:18:22And it looks like a little lamb with legs
01:18:24or that a man is looking at you.
01:18:25In other words, the figure does indeed resemble a face.
01:18:28It could be a camera artifact,
01:18:30that are not perfect,
01:18:31but from a psychological and psychiatric point of view
01:18:33This seems like pareidolia.
01:18:34And what does that mean?
01:18:34It means that if one is determined to see something,
01:18:37He finally sees it.
01:18:38In other words, something like, as I jokingly said,
01:18:39If one is looking at one's navel all day,
01:18:41In the end, the navel is square.
01:18:42In other words, I don't want to distort the fact.
01:18:45that there is an image here.
01:18:46What image is it?
01:18:47What mystery lies behind it?
01:18:48I don't know.
01:18:49But that would be the scientific explanation.
01:18:51Doctor, and there's one important thing.
01:18:54He previously confirmed that someone can die of fright,
01:18:56that fear can be so powerful
01:18:58which can lead to cardiac arrest.
01:19:00Therefore, in intermediate states that do not reach that point,
01:19:03Suggestion could also explain those hair-pulling incidents.
01:19:06of the officials.
01:19:07Or do you sincerely believe there is an initial phenomenon,
01:19:10which is then exaggerated or not,
01:19:12But why does it suddenly happen there?
01:19:13in such a seemingly peaceful place,
01:19:15Doesn't want any publicity?
01:19:17Moreover, these events take three years.
01:19:18to come to light after the first investigation.
01:19:21Why does this happen?
01:19:22Well, I would like to say that Granada,
01:19:24everyone who knows Granada,
01:19:25He knows that Granada is small.
01:19:27In other words, Granada is not a big city.
01:19:29Second, Granada is a city with a rich history,
01:19:31a lot, a whole lot of history that is over a century old.
01:19:34Third, when in a small group,
01:19:35or not very small, as they are civil servants,
01:19:37Word begins to spread that something is happening,
01:19:39That really gets to you.
01:19:40And in the end, some people are intelligent.
01:19:42people who are less intelligent,
01:19:43but there is a growing sense that,
01:19:46Where there's smoke, there's fire.
01:19:48And in the end it may happen that, through suggestion,
01:19:50People feel things.
01:19:52Now, it's not as bad as someone grabbing your hair.
01:19:54and drag him along the ground,
01:19:55I would deny that.
01:19:57Now, strange sensations,
01:19:59which may be the result of an itchy sweater,
01:20:01or excessive heat at a given time,
01:20:04I can explain it.
01:20:05It's the rational explanation, so to speak.
01:20:07Juanje, however, in Granada this is still a big taboo.
01:20:10There are still people who don't dare to speak out
01:20:12of the history of the Provincial Council,
01:20:13Formerly the Provincial Council of Granada, or not anymore.
01:20:15But our feeling is that,
01:20:17Perhaps it wasn't thoroughly investigated.
01:20:19the origin of these events.
01:20:21Those bones,
01:20:22And there's one detail that will be of great interest.
01:20:24because the people from Cuarto Milenio
01:20:25She's used to it by now.
01:20:27None of the establishments
01:20:28who were there,
01:20:31major shopping centers,
01:20:33warehouse houses,
01:20:34First there were several deaths
01:20:35And second, none of them worked.
01:20:36History repeats itself.
01:20:38They look like marked places.
01:20:39Yes, and it was the talk of the town.
01:20:41among all the people of Granada
01:20:42the one that the World War warehouses
01:20:43and then later the Provincial Council,
01:20:46Now it's the land registry,
01:20:47They have always been closing down
01:20:49the buildings because of that supposed
01:20:51What a curse this place is.
01:20:52And witnesses to assaults
01:20:54of poltergeist,
01:20:55which is extremely difficult to find,
01:20:56and witnesses of strange voices
01:20:58or of lights like Pilar Perry,
01:20:59For example,
01:21:00we have them first
01:21:00dozens in the Provincial Council.
01:21:03So,
01:21:03all of that really
01:21:04has fueled a negative legend
01:21:05around this house
01:21:06incredible.
01:21:07Apart,
01:21:07As I was saying,
01:21:08from very,
01:21:09very old,
01:21:10the Arch of the Ears,
01:21:11the Convent of La Magdalena,
01:21:12abortions that appear
01:21:13on this wall,
01:21:13I mean,
01:21:14It is a marked place
01:21:15for a mystery,
01:21:16a tragedy,
01:21:16There is a fear
01:21:17which still follows
01:21:18for Pablo in Granada,
01:21:18I'm from there
01:21:19and anyone who asks
01:21:21Learn the story.
01:21:21Well,
01:21:22what we have intended
01:21:22is to get closer
01:21:24with rational light
01:21:24and research light
01:21:25to a mythical event
01:21:27for history
01:21:28of the mysteries
01:21:28and do it from within.
01:21:30There was a cluster
01:21:31of exaggerations
01:21:32or was there really
01:21:33an initial phenomenon
01:21:33what does that have to do with it
01:21:34with that Father Benito.
01:21:35As usual,
01:21:37the opinion has to be
01:21:37yours.
01:21:38They've tried to solve it here.
01:21:39our colleagues
01:21:40José Cabrera,
01:21:41forensic psychiatrist,
01:21:43Thank you very much as always.
01:21:44To you.
01:21:44Juan G. Vallejo,
01:21:45thank you so much
01:21:45and awaiting further investigation.
01:21:47We'll see.
01:21:48what we ended up finding out
01:21:49of this character.
01:21:50That wouldn't be bad.
01:21:50to investigate again
01:21:51over those bones.
01:21:52Perhaps one day it will be achieved.
01:21:53Thanks my friend.
01:21:54And we
01:21:55we have seen photographs,
01:21:56photographs obtained
01:21:57by the team
01:21:58from Cuarto Milenio.
01:21:59Photographs that, well,
01:22:00Well, each one,
01:22:00As we always say,
01:22:01has his own personal opinion.
01:22:03But there are others,
01:22:04others that we received
01:22:05by the hundreds.
01:22:06The photographs
01:22:07from Cuarto Milenio.
01:22:26Human beings
01:22:27we can be deceived
01:22:28by our own mind.
01:22:29That's clear.
01:22:30Suggestion exerts
01:22:31an almost magical effect.
01:22:32And also technology
01:22:33of digital cameras
01:22:34can be deceived,
01:22:36why not?
01:22:37Because of optical effects, Carmen.
01:22:38Yes, often
01:22:39when capturing an image
01:22:41with our cameras
01:22:42we are not aware
01:22:43of the crystals
01:22:44or trays that are around
01:22:45and these produce
01:22:46sometimes
01:22:47that emerge from faces
01:22:48or images
01:22:49or what we
01:22:50we believe we see in them.
01:22:52Aureo Correa
01:22:53he sent us
01:22:54This curious photograph
01:22:55where on one of the trays
01:22:56said to see
01:22:57a human face.
01:22:59And indeed,
01:23:00by expanding that area
01:23:00we can see
01:23:01a kind of face.
01:23:02But Iker
01:23:03It's an optical effect
01:23:04increased
01:23:05if it fits through the glass
01:23:06that gets in the way
01:23:07and that causes
01:23:08this effect
01:23:09also blurry.
01:23:10It's one thing
01:23:11as if very blurred.
01:23:12Nothing to do with it
01:23:12with the following image.
01:23:14And it seems to me, Carmen,
01:23:15which is very strange.
01:23:16Yes, the truth is that
01:23:17our IT analyst
01:23:18Guillermo León
01:23:19He's not entirely sure.
01:23:20with this image
01:23:21that he has sent us
01:23:21Juan from Huesca.
01:23:23At first
01:23:23one could say
01:23:25which is an overlay
01:23:26photographs by Iker
01:23:27but not everything
01:23:28It's so clear.
01:23:29The truth is that
01:23:30what we can distinguish
01:23:31clearly they are
01:23:32to a person
01:23:33as if lying on the floor
01:23:34her facial features
01:23:35who is a male
01:23:36middle-aged
01:23:37even their clothing.
01:23:38The tie
01:23:39He appears to be wearing a tie.
01:23:40Clear,
01:23:41a kind of jacket,
01:23:42tie
01:23:42and a white shirt
01:23:43even.
01:23:44We might think
01:23:45in some kind
01:23:46double exposure
01:23:47involuntary
01:23:47But the curious thing is
01:23:48of this case
01:23:49is that our sender
01:23:50he told us
01:23:51that he feels
01:23:52at the moment
01:23:53to take the photograph
01:23:54a curious feeling
01:23:55what should you do
01:23:56precisely at that moment
01:23:58a photograph
01:23:59to the ground
01:24:00because the framing
01:24:00It's very strange.
01:24:01really
01:24:01because he takes a picture there
01:24:02And not only that, Iker.
01:24:03a few months ago
01:24:04that at this address
01:24:05had just died
01:24:06a person
01:24:07that because of the features
01:24:08can be identified
01:24:09with the character
01:24:10that appears in the image.
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