00:00Cook's sensational affidavit, Atlanta, Georgian, Wednesday, June 4th, 1913,
00:04says she heard Frank's wife tell mother Frank had threatened suicide
00:08incoherent statement by employee of Frank household
00:10that must not be taken as legal evidence until heard and corroborated in court.
00:15Another sensational but strangely incoherent affidavit in the Mary Fagan mystery
00:20was made public this afternoon when the police gave out
00:23what purports to be a startling statement sworn to by Manola McKnight,
00:27Negro cook in the Frank household, who was grilled for two hours at police headquarters Tuesday.
00:33The statement quotes the McKnight woman as declaring that she overheard Mrs. Leo Frank tell her mother
00:38that Frank had talked of murder and had threatened to get a gun and shoot himself.
00:43The Georgian informs its readers once again that police affidavits are not evidence
00:48until they have been accepted in court and that judgment as to their reliability
00:52should be withheld until then. Statement of Negroes in full.
00:55The McKnight woman's statement is given for what it is worth as follows.
01:00State of Georgia, County of Fulton.
01:02Personally appeared before me, a notary public in and for the above state and county,
01:07Manola McKnight, who lives in the rear of 351 Pulliam Street, Atlanta, Georgia,
01:12who, being duly sworn, deposes and says,
01:15Saturday morning, April 26th, 1913, Mr. Frank left home about eight o'clock,
01:21and Albert, my husband, was there Saturday too. Albert got there, I guess, about a quarter after
01:25one, and was there when Mr. Frank come for dinner, which was about half past one, but Mr. Frank did
01:31not eat any dinner, and he left in about ten minutes after he got there. Mr. Frank come back
01:36to the house at seven o'clock that night, and Albert was there when he got there. Albert had gone
01:41home
01:41that evening, but he come back, but I don't know what time he got there, but he come sometime before
01:46Mr. Frank did, and Mr. Frank eats supper that night about seven o'clock, and when I left about
01:51eight o'clock, I left Mr. Frank there. Sunday morning, I got there about eight o'clock, and there
01:56was an automobile standing in front of the house, but I didn't pay any attention to it, but I saw
02:00a
02:00man in the automobile get a bucket of water and pour into it. Miss Lucille, Mr. Frank's wife,
02:05was downstairs, and Mr. and Mrs. Selig were upstairs. Albert was there Sunday morning, but I don't
02:10remember what time he got there. When I called them down to breakfast about half past eight, I found that
02:15Mr. Frank was gone. Mr. and Mrs. Selig eat breakfast, and Miss Lucille didn't eat until Mr. Frank came
02:21back, and they eat breakfast together. I didn't hear them say anything at the breakfast table, but
02:26after dinner, I understood them to say that a girl and Mr. Frank were caught at the office Saturday.
02:30I don't know who said it, but Miss Lucille and Mr. and Mrs. Selig and Mr. Frank were standing there
02:35talking after dinner. I didn't know the girl was killed until Monday evening. I understood them to say
02:40it was a Jew girl, and I asked Miss Lucille, and she said it was a Gentile. Frank said,
02:45It's mighty bad. On Tuesday, Mr. Frank says to me, It is mighty bad, Manola. I might have to go
02:51to jail
02:52about this girl, and I don't know anything about it. I heard Mrs. Rousen, Mrs. Frank's sister, tell Miss
02:57Lucille that it was mighty bad, and Miss Lucille said, Yes, it is. I am going to get after her
03:03about it.
03:04I don't know what they were talking about. Sunday, Miss Lucille said to Mr. Selig that Mr. Frank didn't sleep
03:09so good Saturday night. She said he was drunk and wouldn't let her sleep with him, and she said she
03:14slept on the floor on the rug by the bed because he was drinking. Miss Lucille said Sunday that Mr.
03:19Frank told her Saturday night that he was in trouble, that he didn't know the reason why he
03:23would murder, and he told his wife to get his pistol and let him kill himself. I heard Miss Lucille
03:29say to
03:29that Mrs. Selig. It got away with Mrs. Selig might bad. She didn't know what to think. I haven't heard
03:35Miss Lucille say whether she believed it or not. I don't know why Mrs. Frank didn't come to see her
03:39husband, but it was a pretty good while before she come to see him, maybe two weeks. She would tell
03:44me, Wasn't it mighty bad that he was locked up? And she said, Manola, I don't know what I'm going
03:49to do.
03:50When I left home to go to the Solicitor General's office, they told me to mind how I talked.
03:54They pay me $3.50 a week, but last week she paid me $1.04, and one week she paid
04:00me $6.50.
04:02Up to the time of the murder, I was getting $3.50 a week, and the week right after the
04:07murder,
04:07I don't remember how much they paid me, and the next week they paid me $3.50, and the next
04:13week
04:13they paid me $6.50, and the next week they paid me $4, and the next week $4.00. One
04:19week Mrs. Selig
04:20gave me $5, but it wasn't for my work, and they didn't tell me what it was for. They just
04:25said,
04:25Here is $5, Manola. But of course I understood what they meant, but they didn't tell me anything
04:30at the time. I understood that it was a tip for me to keep quiet. They would tell me to
04:35mind how
04:35I talked, and Miss Lucille give me a hat. Q. Is that the reason you didn't tell the
04:40Solicitor yesterday all about this, that Miss Lucille and the others had told you not to say
04:44anything about what had happened at home there? A. Yes, sir. Q. Is that true? A. Yes, sir. Q. And
04:51that is the reason why you would rather have been locked up last night than tell this? A. Yes, sir.
04:55Q. Has Mr. Pickett or Mr. Cravens or Mr. Campbell or myself, Detective Starnes, influenced you in any
05:02way or threatened you in any way to make this statement? A. No, sir. Q. You make it of your
05:07own free will and accord in their presence and in the presence of Mr. Gordon, your attorney?
05:12A. Yes, sir. Signed, Manola McKnight. Sworn and subscribed to before me this 3D day of June 1913,
05:19G.C. February.
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