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Wednesday, June 4th, 1913

Witnesses Summoned in Dictograph Controversy, Although Foreman Says Vice Probe Is Not Complete

BEAVERS AND FELDER ASK INVESTIGATION

Felder's Charges Against Lanford to Be Heard With Dictograph Case—Felder Says the Records Are Forged

Four witnesses were called Wednesday morning by the Fulton county grand jury to testify in regard to the existence of vice in Atlanta. They were Colonel Thomas B. Felder, who was on the stand but a few minutes Tuesday; A. J. Young, a real estate man; J. E. Skaggs, agent of the Southern Express company, and Police Chief James L. Beavers.

Neither of these witnesses would indicate along what lines he was questioned by the grand jury. It is understood, however, that Colonel Felder submitted a supplementary list to the list of alleged disorderly houses furnished Tuesday by Attorney Carl Hutcheson and that he also turned over to the grand jury a number of affidavits relative to houses which are operating in the city without police interference.

Colonel Felder is said to have supplied evidence attacking the official integrity and moral character of Detective Chief Newport A. Lanford.

Chief Beavers, it is understood, was questioned at length concerning his vice crusades and the general moral condition of the city as he observes it. He was also asked, it is said, about Attorney Hutcheson's charge that he had failed to make raids upon disorderly houses which had been reported to him.

Upon leaving the grand jury room Chief Beavers stated that he could not discuss what had transpired there as he had been requested not to do so, but he admitted that he had been asked whether he thought his recent crusade against vice had bettered conditions in the city and that he had replied that it was his opinion that conditions were much better today than they had ever been before.

The chief says he admitted that it was probable that some disorderly houses were operating surreptitiously and that he assured the grand jury that he was diligently endeavoring to obtain evidence against such places and that as fast as he got thme [sic] evidence he made cases against the proprietors and inmates.

Messrs. Young and Skaggs are reported to have been interrogated relative to disorderly houses which may have come under their observation or which they may have information about.

A number of persons alleged in Attorney Hutcheson's testimony to be proprietors, managers and frequenters of disorderly houses, were summoned by the grand jury Wednesday, but were not called. At 1:45 p. m. the grand jury adjourned and excused all witnesses until 10 o'clock Thursday morning.
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00:00Felder exonerates Beavers, but says Lanford is corrupt. Atlanta Journal, Wednesday, June 4,
00:051913. Witnesses summoned in dictograph controversy, although Foreman says Vice Probe is not complete,
00:12Beavers, and Felder asks investigation. Felder's charges against Lanford to be heard with dictograph
00:17case. Felder says the records are forged. Four witnesses were called Wednesday morning by the
00:22Fulton County Grand Jury to testify in regard to the existence of Vice in Atlanta. They were
00:27Colonel Thomas B. Felder, who was on the stand but a few minutes Tuesday, A.J. Young, a real estate
00:33man,
00:34J.E. Skaggs, agent of the Southern Express Company, and Police Chief James L. Beavers. Neither of these
00:40witnesses would indicate along what lines he was questioned by the Grand Jury. It is understood,
00:44however, that Colonel Felder submitted a supplementary list to the list of alleged disorderly
00:49houses furnished Tuesday by Attorney Carl Hutchison, and that he also turned over to the Grand Jury a
00:55number of affidavits relative to houses which are operating in the city without police interference.
01:00Colonel Felder is said to have supplied evidence attacking the official integrity and moral character
01:05of Detective Chief Newport A. Lanford. Chief Beavers, it is understood, was questioned at length
01:10concerning his vice crusades and the general moral condition of the city as he observes it.
01:15He was also asked, it is said, about Attorney Hutchison's charge that he had failed to make raids
01:20upon disorderly houses which had been reported to him. Upon leaving the Grand Jury room, Chief
01:25Beavers stated that he could not discuss what had transpired there as he had been requested not to
01:30do so, but he admitted that he had been asked whether he thought his recent crusade against Vice had
01:36bettered conditions in the city, and that he had replied that it was his opinion that conditions were
01:41much better today than they had ever been before. The Chief says he admitted that it was probable that
01:47some disorderly houses were operating surreptitiously, and that he assured the Grand Jury that he was
01:53diligently endeavoring to obtain evidence against such places, and that as fast as he got them
01:59evidence he made cases against the proprietors and inmates. Messrs Young and Skaggs are reported to
02:05have been interrogated relative to disorderly houses which may have come under their observation,
02:10or which they may have information about. A number of persons alleged in Attorney Hutchison's testimony
02:17to be proprietors, managers, and frequenters of disorderly houses were summoned by the Grand Jury
02:22Wednesday, but were not called. At 1.45 p.m., the Grand Jury adjourned and excused all witnesses until
02:2910 o'clock Thursday morning to probe dictograph episode. It is expected that on Thursday or Friday the Grand
02:35Jury will begin a probe into the alleged dictograph conversations, in which Colonel Felder, Mayor Woodward,
02:42C.C. Jones, E.O. Miles, G.C. February, and as Collier figure, subpenas have been issued for a number
02:49of
02:50witnesses to testify in such an investigation. The Grand Jury has, it is said, yielded to the demands of
02:55Colonel Felder and Chief Beavers to make a thorough investigation of the dictograph episode. Colonel Felder
03:02charges that the dictograph records were forged and promises to make sensational disclosures when
03:07the investigation is begun. He says that attorneys and court officials agree with him that even if the
03:12records were true, he had violated no law and would not be subject to indictment on any count.
03:18The city detectives expect the dictograph records to prove that Colonel Felder sought to bribe G.C.
03:24February, a clerk in the detective department, to furnish him with affidavits and other papers
03:29relating to the Fagan murder case. Foreman Lewis H. Beck states that the vice probe will hardly be
03:34completed before Thursday afternoon, and for this reason he said he did not anticipate that the
03:39investigation of the dictograph incident could be started on Thursday. This would indicate that the
03:45latter investigation will be begun Friday morning. We've started a general housecleaning, says Felder.
03:51Well, if we've done nothing else, we have caused a general housecleaning in Atlanta, remarked Colonel
03:55Thomas B. Felder when he walked into the anteroom of the grand jury chamber Wednesday morning.
04:00Six places closed up last night and now claim to be as white as snow. A general exodus seems to
04:05have
04:05begun. Turning to City Detective John Black, Colonel Felder said, I had men out with your men all of last
04:12night and the indications are that a mighty hurried cleanup is in progress. You didn't have any men with
04:17me, replied Detective Black, for I was home in bed. I had them out with the city detectives all right,
04:23responded Colonel Felder. Police Chief James L. Beavers and Detective N. A. Lanford were walking
04:28from the anteroom when Colonel Felder arrived, they having been excused until noon by Foreman
04:33Lewis H. Beck of the grand jury. Colonel Felder called to Chief Beavers and began a conversation
04:38with him in the presence of a number of newspapermen and courthouse attachés.
04:42You can publish what I say if you wish, announced Colonel Felder.
04:46You are the man doing the publishing, I am not, answered Chief Beavers. Then spoke Colonel
04:51Felder. Chief, I have never made any statement attacking your personal character or your official
04:56integrity. I am not responsible for that so-called dictograph record. At a later date, I will show
05:02you that I am not.
05:03Beavers. Does that mean that you've never charged me with being corrupt?
05:06Never charged corruption.
05:08Felder.
05:09No, sir, I certainly have not.
05:10Beavers.
05:11Has anybody else in your presence charged me with being corrupt?
05:14Felder. Yes, someone else has, and I will tell you about it sometime. I don't want to go into
05:18that now.
05:19Beavers. Well, I would like to know who it was.
05:22Felder. It will come out at the proper time.
05:24Beavers. Well, I want to say whoever did make such a charge told a malicious falsehood.
05:29Felder. Some time ago, I had a long conference with Mr. Marion Jackson of the Men in Religion
05:34Forward movement, and I told him that I had not charged you with any official corruption,
05:38and also that I had not attacked your moral character. I did charge it to the chief of the
05:42other department, presumably referring to Detective Chief N.A. Lanford, and I will furnish good
05:48and abundant proof to establish that charge.
05:51This closed the conversation, and a moment later Chief Beavers left the room.
05:55Colonel Felder announced to those about him that sometime later he would prove that Chief
05:58Lanford is corrupt.
06:00I will also show that those alleged dictograph records were forged, he said. I am not going
06:05to allow Lanford to hide behind the skirts of February and Collier.
06:09Colonel Felder referred to stenographer George M. Gentry's affidavit, attesting the accuracy of
06:13the dictograph records, and intimated that he had obtained an affidavit from Gentry,
06:18which contained startling disclosures. Colonel Felder declares that attorneys and court
06:23officials have assured him that, even if everything contained in the alleged dictographed
06:27records was true and proven, he has violated no law and would not be subject to indictment
06:32on any count. Detective Chief Lanford made a statement Wednesday afternoon replying to
06:36Colonel Felder's charge that his department was corruptly administered. He declared that
06:40if there was anything wrong in his department he wanted it shown up, concerning Colonel Felder's
06:45intimation that as Collier had sold out Chief Lanford declared he didn't know anything about
06:50it, that he was not involved and not interested in whether Collier sold out or not. While before
06:55the grand jury Tuesday, Colonel Felder says he urged the grand jury to investigate the alleged
07:01dictograph episode, and Wednesday morning he stated that he would continue to urge such
07:06an investigation. He intimated that if such an inquiry was instituted he would make sensational
07:11allegations against the Chief of Detectives and possibly several others. Solicitor General
07:16Hugh M. Dorsey was before the grand jury for about an hour Wednesday morning, during which
07:22it is understood he discussed the vice investigation with the members and also the advisability of a probe
07:28into the alleged dictograph incident. Felder first witness. Colonel Felder, who was before the grand
07:35jury for about 15 minutes Tuesday, was the first witness called Wednesday morning. He was sent for
07:41immediately following the conference with the solicitor. The central figure of the vice crusade,
07:46Police Chief James L. Beavers, was among the several witnesses who were about the courthouse when the
07:51session opened. Chief Beavers, who, since the Board of Police Commissioners again has given him full
07:57authority, has put his famous vice squad of 22 plainclothes men back in harness, declared that
08:03he could not understand the attitude of some of the witnesses who have appeared before the probers.
08:08Some of those men who now tell of the terrible vice conditions in Atlanta, the police official said,
08:15were the very people who raised the loudest voices against me when my men were particularly active in
08:20their fight against vice. My position, continued the chief, has never changed. I will make arrests
08:27whenever I can secure sufficient evidence to warrant a raid. Chief Beavers declared that he is now
08:32particularly anxious to get attorney Carl Hutchison's promised list of 30 houses with evidence against
08:37the owners. Mr. Hutchison stated on leaving the grand jury room Tuesday that he had furnished the
08:44probers with the names of about 30 places, hotels, and small houses where vice flourishes, he says,
08:49and that in many instances he gave the grand jury sufficient evidence to warrant indictments.
08:55What will jury do? There is much speculation over the probable action of the grand jury in the matter.
09:01The question is, will the grand jury return indictments on the testimony given before it,
09:06or will the grand jury simply formulate a report on vice conditions to be embodied in his presentments
09:12to the Superior Court when it is discharged during the first week in July, owing to a remark made to
09:18reporters by foreman Lewis H. Beck, soon after the vice probe was inaugurated, it is inferred that the
09:24latter course is probable. Mr. Beck stated that the jury was making a general, not specific investigation
09:30into vice conditions in Atlanta, and in making this probe, he declared that the jury was sitting like
09:36a committee of the whole. The jury especially was charged by Judge W.D. Ellis to make an investigation of
09:41vice conditions, and this adds weight to the theory that the jury will render simply a report of its
09:46findings to the court and then leave the matter in the hands of the authorities.
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