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Nicki Jhabvala from The Athletic joins the Kevin Sheehan Show to speak on the speculation with the Commanders’ potential interest in Brandon Aiyuk and evaluates the current state of the offense with their in house talent.
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00:00Nikki Javala opened up her mailbag column on The Athletic yesterday by writing,
00:07the Washington Commanders have their first training camp practice in 29 days,
00:12which for some means potentially spending 29 more days staring at Instagram
00:18for the most recent dispatches from a certain wide receiver employed by another team.
00:25Yeah, that's what we've been reduced to here.
00:29Nikki's joining us right now.
00:32Of course, Nikki covers the team for The Athletic.
00:35You can follow Nikki on X at Nikki Javala.
00:39You know, I just went through your latest X, your latest tweets,
00:45and your very first one was a quoting of somebody else saying that you said something that you said you
00:55didn't say.
00:55And I have to apologize up front because yesterday with Tommy on my podcast,
01:00Tommy said, you got to read what Nikki wrote.
01:03And I said, well, just tell me what she wrote.
01:05Well, she said that, you know, like everybody's been saying that the team had interest,
01:09but they now don't have as much interest.
01:12So I'm going to let you clear up exactly because I just read what you wrote and you didn't say
01:19that specifically.
01:20But where do you think, let's start with, by the way, hello.
01:25Secondly, chronologically, they were interested, but where would you think they are now,
01:32either based on something that you really know or something that is more of a hunch?
01:37Okay, can we go back a little bit?
01:39Sure.
01:41So my whole reason for answering it the way I did was I don't think anybody knows what they think
01:49now
01:49because they're not telling anybody.
01:50I know what I was told a month, month and a half ago, which is why I clearly said, you
01:55know, here's what I can tell.
01:57This is what I was told before all the, you know, Instagram posts went out.
02:04Now, interest, I think people are reading too much of the word interest.
02:07It was interest to the extent that they would consider him if it were like a highly incentivized one-year
02:13deal,
02:13if, you know, they felt like he was the best vet, there would still be some serious vetting, right?
02:18Yes.
02:19Your phone's breaking up.
02:20I'm going to stop you because your phone's breaking up and I don't want to catch every third word.
02:25I want Nikki to be super clear here, Max.
02:29So let's get her, are you, are you there?
02:33Yes.
02:33Can you hear me?
02:34Yeah.
02:35You sound better now.
02:36You were just breaking up there for, okay.
02:38So it starts with, yes, they were going to kick the tires at the very least and have some interest.
02:44If he had been released, they weren't going to trade for him.
02:47So move forward from there.
02:51Where they stand now, nobody really knows.
02:54It was my whole point of, and what I believed, I clearly said in that answer was, if there is
03:01still that level of interest,
03:03which, again, is to the extent that they would look into it and see kind of where he's at physically,
03:08you know,
03:08if he felt like, you know, a deal would work out in their favor, then they have to seriously vet
03:14it.
03:15I mean, there is more public videos out there that they really need to, okay, make sure that they're okay
03:23with,
03:23that the team is okay with, that they really feel like he's in the best frame of mind to do
03:28this.
03:28And until they really talk to the guy, because he does not have an agent,
03:32he hasn't been working with his agent for a while up until he, you know, the contract was terminated.
03:40They don't fully know.
03:43So I don't know if their interest has changed.
03:47I know it was a month and a half ago, roughly, and nothing, there hasn't, because there can't be much
03:57communication,
03:57any communication with them at this point, because it'd be tampering.
04:00He does not have an agent, and he's employed by another team.
04:04Yeah.
04:04I mean, so let's, let's, you know, do what, what I do every day, which is speculate on the way
04:14they may feel now,
04:15versus a month and a half ago, after this, you know, people like me in trouble, though.
04:20No, but this is more fun.
04:22And it's, I mean, we got 29 days until camp.
04:25We got 29 days.
04:26I mean, I said yesterday, common sense after these videos.
04:33I mean, I've kind of personally gone from, yeah, really interested to, no, I'm out.
04:40I mean, this guy is an unserious person.
04:42This, he's not, you know, he doesn't appear to be all there.
04:46And he's actually really hurting himself and putting too much pressure on any team that would sign him,
04:53because it'll be so much more polarizing, so much more controversial, et cetera.
04:57And as it relates to how the team feels right now, I don't know.
05:02But I would guess that they certainly are having second, third, and fourth thoughts on whether or not they would
05:10even kick the tires on him.
05:12What would you think at this point they're thinking?
05:15That's a fair guess.
05:16My answer was that nobody knows.
05:19I don't know.
05:19You don't know.
05:20Nobody knows where their interest level is.
05:23But, yes, there is more out there that they really need to vet.
05:26But they also know him better than we do off of however many Instagram posts that he's put out there.
05:35But I, you know, I think it's a leap for any of us to say that, you know, he has
05:43mental issues based on what we've seen in short snippets of Instagram posts.
05:47Again, we don't know Brandon Ayuk, certainly not to the extent that they do, certainly, I mean, at all, really.
05:54And that's something that they would have to figure out and feel very comfortable with if they wanted to go
05:59down that route.
06:00I think it was well documented, you know, the fallout with the 49ers and kind of parts of that story
06:06and what went on there.
06:10So there's a lot there.
06:11And it's something that they would have had to have felt comfortable with even before all this, you know, is
06:17to really vet the situation and make sure he's the right fit, you know, just with all the headlines around
06:22it.
06:23And, you know, you don't want to you want to eliminate distractions.
06:25You just want to add to the team.
06:26You don't want to detract in any way.
06:29Yeah, it's it's like I mean, what it's like if we really got down to it and said, all right,
06:34what do we know?
06:35Well, we do know that in unprecedented fashion, he had 30 something million dollars voided guaranteed money from his contract.
06:44And as of now, the NFLPA, the union that is there to protect players from being from things like this
06:52from happening, they haven't even taken up the cause for him.
06:56We do know that he videotaped himself going 100 miles per hour, driving around the stadium in Santa Clara, posted
07:04it to social media, which has led to an arrest warrant.
07:07We also know from these videos, he's I mean, I think a normal adult can say he's immature and he's
07:15unprofessional.
07:16He may be mentally stable.
07:17It's impossible to to actually determine that.
07:21But he's immature and unprofessional.
07:23Here's what we know.
07:24By the way, immaturity and unprofessionalism are not disqualifiers for NFL players.
07:30I mean, I mean, like, yeah, there's but the issue is he's made it so that instead of, hey, you
07:40know, he had a real issue with the team, you know, but we know the player and we're excited about
07:45it.
07:45And now it's wow, the perception he's left with most people.
07:51You know, you're really going to do this, Adam Peters.
07:53And by the way, by extension, Jaden Daniels.
07:56That's what I think it comes down to if they feel like he's physically, mentally, whatever, in an OK spot,
08:03it comes down to perception.
08:05And how much do they care about outside perception?
08:08I think generally the just I've gotten from this regime is they don't really care about outside perception.
08:13That doesn't mean they've been reckless about who they brought in.
08:17They've been very conscientious about who they've brought in and intentional about it.
08:21But I think it becomes harder to justify in a public realm like.
08:28I'm not saying it's purely PR, it's not.
08:30There's a lot to unpack there, but it is, you know, after years of touting, you know, the commander standard
08:38and we want to bring in the right people, we want to bring in certain types of people, whatever it
08:43is, you have to be able to back it up.
08:46And that's something that they would have to figure out and if they wanted to go down that route.
08:51But I think there's also like the simple.
08:55Does he add enough value at this point in his career after missing 19 months of football?
09:01Another we don't know.
09:03Can he be that player he was?
09:04Yeah, exactly.
09:05And like, you know, he hasn't had any offseason work with this team or any team, obviously.
09:11You know, where is he at health wise with, you know, with his knee and everything like there's a lot
09:17there that they would have to carefully vet.
09:19And then, you know, then you run into, OK, we want to give this a try.
09:22OK, how quickly could he get up to speed?
09:24You know, and there's there's just so much to consider.
09:27And as you get closer and closer this season, I think that, too, factors into, you know, does it make
09:32sense for us at this time?
09:34You know, should we just roll with what we got and then, you know, see who comes available when when
09:39rosters are trimmed and kind of go that route, which did, by the way, work out for them in 2024.
09:44It's not like they went into that season with a deep group.
09:48They they got some really outstanding performances from guys like Olamide.
09:52Noah Brown stepped up, but, you know, it didn't work out from last year.
09:57Yeah, the 24 comparisons and interesting one because I keep bringing up.
10:00Look, it's it looks and feels like 24, but Terry's two years older and he's coming off an injury plagued
10:07season.
10:08And, you know, I expect him to be super in shape and ready to go and much different frame of
10:15mind than he was a year ago.
10:17But, you know, you never know.
10:19You know, all of this could obviously be very moot because he may never get himself eligible to be released.
10:27And he doesn't seem he doesn't seem right.
10:32He just doesn't seem willing to take the action that he needs to take to affect his outcome.
10:38And that's that's something that probably gets factored into all this, too.
10:42Also, I'd mention if they didn't know this before, it's they're now very aware that any sort of adverse situation,
10:50he's going scorched earth on his employer.
10:53No, no, you know, all of these things get taken into it.
10:57All right.
10:57You said something.
10:58We're talking to Nikki, of course, Javala from The Athletic.
11:01You know, maybe they are OK with.
11:04Well, you said they may be in position to have to roll with who they got right now.
11:09How do you think they feel coming off this, you know, offseason of OTAs, et cetera?
11:15What do you think they think of what they got right now?
11:19It's a good question.
11:20I mean, what they they'll never truly tell us, you know, maybe they actually do feel like, oh, OK, we
11:26we feel like we've got enough here.
11:27But I mean, because that's always what anything would say.
11:30Right.
11:31Yeah.
11:33I.
11:37That's a hard one, because it's I mean, I know you love the speculation.
11:40I hate it so much.
11:42Sorry.
11:42I'll do respect.
11:44But I mean, that's a hard one, because I felt like.
11:48I'm sure they would have loved to add another elite receiver.
11:51I mean, what what team wouldn't love to add another receiver?
11:55Right.
11:55But it's not like there were a ton of great options in free agency.
12:00There were a ton of great options in the draft.
12:02But the way it felt, they they took the guy they felt was was best for them.
12:08So it's a tough one to ask.
12:09Do they feel like they have enough to kind of get the offense over the hump?
12:14Do they.
12:15Are they are they banking on, you know, just kind of scouring the wire when rosters are
12:21trimmed?
12:21It's a hard one to answer at this point.
12:25I know they keep pumping up Van Jefferson and I thought he had a good camp, but I don't
12:30know that you really.
12:32You know, use that as a while.
12:33They really think Van Jefferson can be like the quote unquote number two in terms of workload.
12:38I'm not sure they I don't think they have a true number two on this team.
12:41Um, but, you know, again, how did they view that?
12:46It's hard to it's kind of hard to say.
12:49I mean, I they signed these guys for a reason and they didn't sign other guys for a reason.
12:54You know, Steph, Steph Diggs, who has his own, you know, kind of off field issues to sort
12:59of unpack.
13:00You know, he's been sitting out there.
13:01They didn't sign him.
13:02Odell Beckham was free for a good bit before signing.
13:05They didn't grab him.
13:06You know, might they grab him?
13:08One of these guys, you know, going into, you know, camp.
13:11Or even into the season.
13:12Sure.
13:13But they haven't been jumping after him.
13:16So they seem to like their guys enough to kind of hold pat for now.
13:21By the way, I'll just tell you that informed speculation is so much more sophisticated than
13:27reckless speculation.
13:29So I kind of feel like the conversations that I have with you lean towards informed speculation.
13:36Um, but yeah, you know, on look, Adam Peters tried, we know that they had interest in Alec
13:43Pierce.
13:43We know that they had interest in Romeo Dobbs.
13:46They didn't land either player for whatever.
13:49I mean, Pierce, I don't think was ever.
13:51And I don't know that either player would have been the answer.
13:53You know, like I agree with that.
13:55You think Alec Pierce that kind of money?
13:57Is that, I don't, I think that would have created more problems than anything.
14:00I don't think Romeo Dobbs is your answer.
14:02Like, yeah, I think Pierce got too much money.
14:05I don't, I would not have wanted this team to give him that kind of money.
14:08I think he's, I think he's a number, he's a number one, but he's not an elite or top
14:1310 ish kind of number one.
14:14Right.
14:15And that's the money he got paid.
14:17Right.
14:18So I, I think I understand the reasons for signing the players they did.
14:22I, I like bringing them, they on me back.
14:26I think he adds speed.
14:28But I still think they need that consistent sort of workhorse guy to be that number two.
14:32Maybe if Traylon Brooks can stay healthy, great.
14:37If they could find sort of that, you know, a Lama Day figure in this group, great.
14:42If the rookie can turn into, you know, something immediately awesome.
14:46Um, but right now it just is, it's, it's Terry and a group that you're still waiting to see
14:52who shakes out at the top and, you know, they, you can say they have versatility.
14:57I, you know, I have no doubt that Antonio Williams does.
15:00He played primarily in the slot in college, but can play outside.
15:03But as of now, they have a, a lot of guys who have primarily played in the slot.
15:08Yeah.
15:09Um, and I think you need, you need some, you need, you need another pass catcher on this
15:13roster is my opinion.
15:14You need another vertical threat, you know, wherever it comes from, you need somebody
15:19that can score, you know, from, from distance.
15:22And right now, I guess the army fits that to a certain degree and Terry may still fit that,
15:27but there's a big question mark around that.
15:30Uh, I I've talked about recently, including earlier in the show, not that this is what
15:35you want, which is a choice, but I remember Adam Peter saying, and you were there, um, at
15:40the end of the season, he said, look, you know, helping the offense also means that
15:44it means really upgrading our defense because in 2024, even if you, if we look at what they
15:51have now and say, it kind of looks like it did in 2024, they had a bad defense in 2024.
15:56And there's a chance that they could have a much better defense in 2026.
16:01My question to you would be, which do you think is more important to helping the offense in
16:09terms of this team, more playmakers around Jaden or a defense that actually gets stops
16:16and gives them field position occasionally?
16:20Um, I don't know.
16:21It's more important, but I, I agree with what Adam said, um, the defense last year was a
16:26liability, no doubt.
16:28Um, and at the offense statistically, I mean, for everything they went through with the injuries,
16:33the quarterback changes, they remarkably didn't.
16:35I mean, it wasn't terrible, you know, like they just had no consistency and they had no
16:41receivers most of the time.
16:42Um, but you know, considering what they were working with, it honestly wasn't that bad.
16:47Um, but the defense was atrocious, you know, you can't be giving up those explosives and
16:52you know, they, they couldn't rush a passer to save their life, couldn't get turnover.
16:55So it was a, it was a real problem.
16:57So I agree with him.
16:57You've got to bolster that group.
16:59Um, I also thought what he did with the offensive line is smart.
17:03I don't think you can improve any offense until you have a consistent, um, O line.
17:08And, and I, it was important to extend Laramie Tunsil.
17:11I think they continue to develop Connerly.
17:13I thought he did really well as rookie season, just in that he continued to progress.
17:18It didn't look like he really took a step back.
17:20I thought he was sort of thrown into the fire early and, and did well with it.
17:26Um, so I, I, I like those moves.
17:29I still think you need another playmaker.
17:31I stand by this that I, I still think losing Austin Eckler early last season really, really
17:37hurt them.
17:38Um, and yeah, he was a 30 year old running back, but he could, he could get open.
17:43He could give you, he had the speed.
17:45He could create those chunk plays.
17:47He was, he was another playmaker that they're lacking now.
17:51Um, so whether they find one.
17:53He's another difference from 2024 too, because they had him and they were more dynamic in
17:582024 when he was on the field.
18:01Yes, yes, exactly.
18:03So findings, whether it's, you know, in the running back room, whether it's receivers,
18:08you know, getting another, one of the younger tight ends more involved, they got to find
18:11some way to get another playmaker on the offense, I think.
18:14But I agree with what Adam said.
18:16It is that altering the defense was hugely important.
18:19Yeah.
18:20We'll see if it ends up being a lot better.
18:22It would be hard for it to be worse.
18:23Do you think that there is a move that they really wanted to make or, you know, is, is
18:32there any sort of regret so far about this off season in that building?
18:37What, if, if I told you there's one big regret, what do you think it would be?
18:43I don't know if it was this off season, but I probably Marshall and Lattimore from, you
18:47know, but I'm talking about this past off season with somebody that they wanted a position.
18:53Obviously we've talked about, you know, wide receiver and maybe if Carnell Tate had fallen
18:57to seven, maybe he would have been the pick.
18:59I don't know.
19:00Um, but do you think there's something that they, uh, like I keep going back to Tyler
19:06Linderbaum.
19:07He got way more money than anybody thought there was interest.
19:12And I think at the end of the day, overpaying him may have been the right thing because
19:17he is an A plus player.
19:20He's also just a son of it though.
19:22I just agree.
19:22I think I, you're saying he's just a center.
19:25Yeah, but they also have a need at the position.
19:29I, yes, they do.
19:30But I would argue that center is the least important position up front.
19:34Most people say that, but I just view it as an interior offensive line and he's a great
19:39player.
19:40He is.
19:41I don't know that any center is worth the money he's getting though.
19:44That's my belief.
19:45He's getting an insane amount.
19:46So you don't think that that's something that they, they're worried about.
19:49They would have never gone that high.
19:53Um, I know.
19:55I mean, they didn't.
19:56So no, they wouldn't have gone that high.
19:58Um, and I mean, how long did they say, oh, well, we're saving like 8 million by giving
20:03up Tyler Beatty or whatever.
20:05So if they're, if they're going to tell, you know, an $8 million savings, are they, does
20:09it really make sense to go out and spend, you know, that kind of money on his replacement?
20:13I mean, to me, that kind of move doesn't make sense.
20:16Just as Alex, Alex Pierce doesn't make sense.
20:18You know, it just, that's, I mean, both are great, great players, but that money, when
20:25you've got a roster with a ton of holes and I mean, I like what they did this off season,
20:31but it's not like they have depth for years to come.
20:35All the passers that they signed outside of Adafi are on one of your deals.
20:40So it's not, it's not, it's a fair answer.
20:43I just want, I look at this team and they don't have enough great players and Tyler Linderbond
20:49is a great player.
20:51I would also, and this is not in any way to like defend the team or it's more of, I
20:57think
20:57context matters.
20:58Like I would have loved for them to have gotten an elite corner.
21:02There wasn't one to grab though.
21:04Right.
21:05The one that maybe could have been that elite corner was Delane and he, the,
21:09the chiefs, you know, moved up in the draft and took him.
21:13Um, but there wasn't that elite outside corner on the open market.
21:17There were a lot of slot guys on the open market.
21:20Um, so would it have made sense to pay a lot of money for a guy that you didn't feel
21:25could be that?
21:26I mean, they tried that once with Marshawn Latimer, you know, giving up assets for him.
21:30So don't go down that road again.
21:32Um, I, I think, I don't know, I wouldn't say it's a regret, but I'm sure
21:39they would have loved to have gotten another receiver.
21:41They saw what having, you know, a dearth of receivers last year did to that
21:46offense.
21:47I mean, we saw it from day one in camp, but I remember just, you know, people
21:51did not like my, my prediction going into the season, but it was based largely
21:56on what we saw from the offense.
21:58You had what?
21:59Seven and 10.
22:00You had less than 500 with me, which was wrong.
22:04As it turned out, it was way too optimistic.
22:05No, no, no, no, you were in the, you were in the right track, but it was mostly because
22:10their best players didn't play.
22:12Yeah.
22:12Yeah.
22:13Um, if you don't have, sorry, continue rambling.
22:17No, no, go ahead.
22:18No, I was just, you know, I think if you saw that last year and they, it's not like they
22:24felt they had a ton of definitely playmakers in 2024 that, you know, they said it was
22:29important to them to get, as you said, get more playmakers around Jaden, you know, just
22:34didn't fall that way this off season.
22:36You think they would have taken Tate had he been there at seven?
22:39Good question.
22:41Um, maybe I, I mean, it's honestly a good, like top 15 in this draft and I don't, I
22:52could have seen it definitely, I mean, you look at what George Pickens has done for
22:57Dallas, you know, like can change things quickly.
23:01Um, maybe, you know, I still think they, they really like, you know, Caleb Williams.
23:08I think they, Caleb Williams, uh, Caleb Downs.
23:10Um, I, I got mixed messages on Manseer Delaney on whether, how much they were interested or
23:17not, um, but I think any of those guys would have been great picks.
23:23I think Sonny Stiles was a really good pick for them.
23:25So I don't, I don't know.
23:26It's hard to say.
23:28Talking to Nikki Jabala, of course, when we get to week one against Philadelphia, which
23:34can't get here quickly enough, who do you think the top back will be?
23:39Who will get the most snaps and the most touches in their backfield in week one or overall early
23:47in the season?
23:48Um, bill, um, but I, I think it'll be more evenly split between bill and Rashad white than
23:58maybe it was, you know, with starters in the past.
24:01I think it would be more of that committee approach.
24:04Cause it's, I mean, that's honestly very similar to what Ben Johnson has used in his
24:08offenses.
24:09We, you know, there's strong reason to believe that this offense could have a lot of Ben
24:12Johnson concepts in it.
24:14Um, so I, I think it could be closer to a two back tandem there, but I think bill, I
24:21mean, if he can really develop those parts of the game that they want in terms of, you
24:27know, pass blocking and, and pass catching, then I would think he'd be the first one out
24:32of the gate and to get, you know, even if it's slightly more to get more.
24:36Um, yeah, there were just a couple of players.
24:39I mean, I think you kind of, uh, cause you're there with him when he says this, but I'm always
24:44curious as to who gets mentioned first, when people get specific about players that have
24:51impressed and Rashad white gets mentioned, van Jefferson got mentioned.
24:55You already mentioned him, um, a couple of times.
24:57So I'll finish up with this.
24:59Do you think there is a player or players that really kind of surprised them that they're
25:07much more excited about today than they were before the first OTA?
25:12Um, I think white definitely qualifies for that.
25:15I mean, I mean, Quinn mentioned him repeatedly unsolicited.
25:20Um, and I thought he, I thought it was accurate.
25:24I thought white didn't press.
25:25He looked fast.
25:26He is his versatility.
25:27I kind of think goes under the radar just with his pass catching, um, him and kid, the
25:33tight end they signed.
25:34Um, there was a lot of praise for him.
25:38Um, just, I mean, his yards out to catch were statistically well known, but like just seeing
25:44him out there, honestly, it looks more like a fullback linebacker to me.
25:48Um, but I, he does, I think a lot of guys, it's a different, it's a different build than
25:55Ertz.
25:56Yes.
25:57Oh, totally.
25:57Yes.
25:58He's not sort of that lanky, just pure pass catching.
26:01Um, but I, I think they like is somebody more versatile, but you know, again, going back
26:06to our other conversation, I think they need somebody else behind them.
26:10Thank you for doing this.
26:11We didn't do a lot of IUC.
26:13We did, you know, some, uh, a combination somewhere between informed speculation and
26:18reckless, reckless speculation.
26:20I could end with percent chance he's on the roster week one.
26:27I will end with that.
26:28You couldn't help yourself, could you?
26:29You could not help yourself.
26:30No, I couldn't.
26:30Go ahead.
26:37Um, people are going to come at me and be like, oh my God, the commanders have cooled
26:40their interest on, um, I'm going to put it at 30%.
26:44We'll put it there.
26:45Okay.
26:46I was at like 75% before the videos.
26:50I'm at like 10% now.
26:53Oh, wow.
26:54Okay.
26:55Yeah.
26:55I just, and by the way, things can change.
26:58I mean, they're not even at camp for a month and he may, you know, for all we know, he
27:03could
27:03go on this apology tour and figure everything out with the 49ers and get an agent who really
27:09gives them good advice.
27:10And I mean, so much can happen between now and then, but I think that he, I just don't
27:17have any faith that he's even going to get himself to the point where he's available by
27:22the time we get to the season, but all right, 30%.
27:26That's actually higher than I thought you were going to go at this point.
27:30Hope you're well.
27:31I mean, yeah, I appreciate it.
27:33Thanks, Kevin.
27:34Finish it.
27:34No, I just, the one point I wanted to, since you mentioned the agent, I know there was a
27:38lot made of that about, you know, terminating the, you know, the agreement with this agent.
27:44Right.
27:45I will say that, like I had been told a while ago that they stopped working together unofficially.
27:50Um, but I will say that the player or the agent can file the terminate.
27:55So we don't really know who actually officially ended it.
27:58Good point.
27:59If it was him or the agent, which I guess we could just take his word on everything,
28:06but that's probably not the way to go.
28:09Well, I mentioned yesterday or the day before, I think a lot of people were like, oh my God,
28:14he's got this.
28:15John Lynch has the same agent.
28:18GMs share agents with a lot of players in the league.
28:22They, I don't know why that was made such a big deal of, um, but I don't know what John
28:28Lynch driving over to his house.
28:29I don't know what his intentions were.
28:31He didn't get super specific.
28:32He just was very upset.
28:35No video since Saturday though.
28:37I mean, maybe, maybe somebody's gotten ahold of them and said, stop because aren't we going
28:43on max?
28:44Aren't we going on day three now without a new video?
28:46It's been very quiet.
28:47Any social media posts?
28:49It's been very quiet all week.
28:50I've been waiting for a new stuff at some point.
28:52Oh my God.
28:53We buried the lead.
28:55We buried the lead.
28:57I think he, somebody has gotten ahold of him since that long three minute plus video.
29:04I just increased my percentage to 20.
29:06I look forward to your next idea of speculating on this.
29:08See ya.
29:09Thanks.
29:10All right.
29:11See ya, Kevin.
29:12All right.
29:12Nikki Javala, everybody.
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