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Ben Standig from The Last Man Standig Podcast and Substack joins The Kevin Sheehan Show to give his thoughts on Brandon Aiyuk’s recent Instagram posts and answers burning questions about the Commanders leading up to the start of training camp in the coming weeks.
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00:00Ben Standings with us as he is every Monday and Wednesday,
00:03Monday and Friday.
00:05I'm sure we'll have another video out here shortly,
00:08but did you like the last one?
00:10That's my favorite one.
00:14At this point, I think I'm immune to his charms at the moment,
00:18but sure.
00:20Yeah.
00:21That was the most charming though.
00:23Yeah.
00:24No, I sure.
00:25You know, look, who knows?
00:26We don't know what's going on.
00:27Maybe he's going to be part of the,
00:28maybe he's going to help Mark Klaus on the ticket side,
00:31help promote the new stadium.
00:33Who knows?
00:34Yeah.
00:35I mean, there's a lot there.
00:37Where are you on these,
00:39on the Brandon Aiyu question these days?
00:42I mean, you know, I think I'm the same place I've been for a while.
00:47I think you're there too.
00:48It's just like, I, you know, I just don't,
00:53you know, you know, in the, in the movie Total Recall,
00:56when the Schwarzenegger is figuring out that he had like,
01:00that he has this like other life.
01:02And then there's like the video of him and the bad guy talking to,
01:08to the current version of him saying,
01:10explaining what the, what the con is.
01:12That's what I'm almost waiting for.
01:13The like,
01:13Aiyu and Peters and Daniels are just going to put up a video one day.
01:18We're just having fun of you guys.
01:20It's all good.
01:21Other than that, I just, I just don't know what to think anymore.
01:25I just, you know, as everybody has said,
01:26I don't know how this is helping the cause.
01:27And it just makes it harder and harder for me to understand why they'd want
01:32to take the risk.
01:32But, you know, like I said, I've been here for a while now.
01:35Yeah.
01:36I mean, I think the question actually is the risk.
01:39What is the risk?
01:40Even if he's, you know, not all there.
01:43My, my biggest issue.
01:45And the reason I kind of came around is the last couple of videos were just,
01:49it real,
01:50they really reflected somebody who's not very serious about what he should be
01:55serious about, which is if he really wants to be here,
01:58take the actions that are out there that he could take to get here,
02:03you know, his action, or really it's his inaction.
02:07That is the most disappointing part because we didn't hear a thing from him.
02:13You know, we were talking before June, you know, early June.
02:16We don't even know where he is.
02:18His agent doesn't even know where he is.
02:19Nobody knows anything.
02:21That would have been a better environment for him to be released in and then
02:24signed in.
02:25But the video, you know,
02:29deluge of the last few weeks just highlights the fact that he's not serious
02:34right now anyway,
02:35about doing what it would take to actually be on Washington's roster.
02:42He hasn't even, according to reporting,
02:45filed the application for reinstatement with the commissioner,
02:48which he needs to do.
02:49I mean, if you really want to play in Washington,
02:52if you really want to market those tickets,
02:54with you on the team,
02:56how about taking that first step and then presenting yourself to the 49ers like a
03:02real man,
03:03like a real professional would that's real serious.
03:06That's,
03:06that's my biggest issue is the,
03:10the he's leaving any reasonable thinking person with the idea that he's not
03:15serious about this because there's been no action and he has actions he can take.
03:22Yeah.
03:23I mean,
03:23a hundred percent.
03:24I mean,
03:24even the people who want to defend him and,
03:26you know,
03:26dump on the 49ers and this,
03:29that,
03:29and the other.
03:31Yeah.
03:32Maybe he doesn't care about the money,
03:33but if you want,
03:34I mean,
03:34this is a business,
03:35this is a job,
03:36just like we all have jobs and such that like,
03:40if you want out and you're willing to throw away the money,
03:42cool.
03:43Then tell the 49ers,
03:44he's going to have the money,
03:45but let me go.
03:46He didn't do that.
03:46He just stopped showing up.
03:47The idea that him not talking as a bonus.
03:51Nah,
03:51I mean,
03:52not really going MIA doesn't,
03:55is not solving the problem.
03:56You actually have to communicate.
03:58Yeah,
03:58no,
03:58you have to take action.
03:59Yes,
04:00you do with your employer directly.
04:03Yeah,
04:03exactly.
04:04I mean,
04:04and you know,
04:05also I was texting with a former player about this the other day and,
04:10and they're like,
04:10look,
04:11you know,
04:12it can be hard if you are a player who gets into this mode where you're
04:15just,
04:16you know,
04:17constantly in this attack against your former employer.
04:21What happens when something goes wrong with the new plays?
04:24Are you easily,
04:25are you easily going to keep that part of you shelves when you've just been
04:30in that mode for all this time?
04:32And I do think like,
04:33when we talk about the risk,
04:35I know people will say,
04:37Oh,
04:37big deal.
04:37Sign him to one year,
04:38not a lot of money.
04:39Who cares?
04:39Well,
04:40okay.
04:40Well,
04:41what happens when the ball two games in a row doesn't go his way?
04:44Is he going to yell at the quarterback?
04:45Who's his friend?
04:46Is he going to tell his friend who's the quarterback to tell the
04:49coordinator,
04:51Hey,
04:51what are we doing here?
04:52I'm not saying he will,
04:53but you can't rule anything out in this circumstance.
04:56And the last thing,
04:57anybody here in any capacity wants is Jaden Daniels to be compromised.
05:01I mean,
05:01not just because he's coming off the year that they had and,
05:04you know,
05:04they need to be better,
05:05but just why put this guy into this position?
05:08So again,
05:10and maybe Jaden Daniels doesn't feel that way,
05:12but I,
05:13you could clearly ever doing everything he can to get here for him.
05:17I don't,
05:17you know,
05:18as much as he and Adam Peters may have a relationship,
05:20it's clearly for the quarterback.
05:22So,
05:23you know,
05:23if he's going to feel a certain way about it all,
05:25then that that's not good.
05:27So to me,
05:28just the more that goes on,
05:30the bigger of the risk that becomes.
05:32And ultimately,
05:33like,
05:33I don't know any commander's fan who would say that's worth what we're
05:38seeing here.
05:38So,
05:39you know,
05:40I just,
05:41you know,
05:42again,
05:42at this point,
05:43I just feel like I'm immune to the whole thing.
05:45I only have to talk,
05:46I only talk about it as I'm sure you do,
05:47because he keeps invoking the commander in the discussion.
05:51So it's like,
05:52all right,
05:52well,
05:53I guess we have to keep mentioning it.
05:54You know,
05:54when he says things like,
05:56you know,
05:57release me off night with the commanders tomorrow,
05:59that's not a real thing.
06:00I mean,
06:00maybe it is,
06:01but you know,
06:01I mean,
06:01like,
06:01that's not a,
06:02it's not a fact.
06:03It's of him saying that.
06:05So we have to address it.
06:06So yeah,
06:07sure.
06:08Well,
06:08whatever,
06:08whatever he's going to keep doing.
06:10I mean,
06:10I think the thing is,
06:11you know,
06:12training camp is not for another month,
06:14give or take.
06:15So what is he going to keep doing this for the next four weeks?
06:18Are we going to keep getting Instagram content from him all this time?
06:22You know,
06:23I,
06:23I,
06:24yeah,
06:24no,
06:25that doesn't seem like a good time to me.
06:27No,
06:27I think the conversation that you had with somebody,
06:30you know,
06:30in the league is,
06:32is a conversation many people around the league have had,
06:34which is,
06:35you know,
06:36kind of the,
06:37there for the God,
06:37grace of God,
06:38go,
06:39I,
06:39you know,
06:39he's already proven that he'll go scorched earth on you if it doesn't work out
06:43well.
06:44And,
06:45and by the way,
06:46the odds now heavily stack that eventually he's going to go scorched earth on
06:50his next team.
06:50And the team after that as well,
06:52that appears to be who he is,
06:54or at least now,
06:55maybe it's just immaturity and he'll grow up.
06:58Um,
06:58but the,
06:59the part of that,
07:00that you then get into and extrapolate out as to,
07:04okay,
07:05well now you've put me,
07:07Brandon,
07:08I,
07:08you,
07:08I'm Adam Peters into a position where I really have to sell you now to my
07:14owner,
07:15to my ownership group,
07:16to my head coach,
07:17to everybody in the building,
07:18because you've created such an absolute,
07:22you know,
07:22the,
07:22the shenanigans make you appear to a lot of people to be a bit off.
07:28If what I meant by not saying anything,
07:31of course he should have been more professional.
07:34Of course he should have gone and gotten the knee checked and not thrown
07:36away $30 million.
07:37I mean,
07:38that that's,
07:39that's bad judgment at the very least,
07:41but you've,
07:42you've gone from,
07:43yeah,
07:44we're going to take a flyer on this guy where it didn't work out in San
07:47Francisco to,
07:48to we'd like to take a flyer on this guy from San Francisco,
07:52but now I have to sell you Josh Harris and Mitch rails on.
07:56And he's not going to be terrible for our locker room,
07:59our organization,
08:00or our community.
08:02And that's not,
08:03you know,
08:04that's not chess over checkers.
08:06If,
08:06I mean,
08:07I think you and I've talked about this.
08:08I have felt for a while now that it was more likely than not going to
08:12happen.
08:12I think you felt the same way.
08:14We've agreed that,
08:15right?
08:15I think the chances that he's hurt that with a lot of this stuff are
08:23better than 50,
08:2450 that questions that have to be answered,
08:26answered questions now have to be answered inside Ashburn that maybe
08:32didn't have to be answered a month ago.
08:35Yeah.
08:36I mean,
08:37look,
08:37I don't know if they're going to have an introduction to press conference
08:40or brand.
08:40I think something tells me they won't,
08:42but at whatever point,
08:44at whatever point Adam Peters would have to address it.
08:47And Dan Quinn as well,
08:48instead of it just being,
08:51you know,
08:51like,
08:52you know,
08:52look like when they traded for Marshawn Lattimore,
08:54obviously there were picks involved,
08:55but look,
08:55Lattimore had some questions,
08:56the injury,
08:57you know,
08:57had he worn out as welcome with new Orleans,
09:00whatever.
09:00But okay.
09:01At least you understood it from a football context.
09:03They needed a corner.
09:04This guy's been one of the better ones.
09:06Other than he was injured at that moment,
09:07he was still playing,
09:08et cetera.
09:09You know,
09:10there were some questions,
09:10but they were at least in the realm of football questions.
09:13This is veering towards something else.
09:15And again,
09:16I said this before,
09:17I don't know how I would ask this or phrase this or whatever,
09:19but like,
09:20you know,
09:20you can't keep telling us here,
09:22the,
09:22here,
09:22the check,
09:23here,
09:23the boxes of what it means to be a commander.
09:25And then trot this guy out here after everything he's done and keep
09:28pointing to that.
09:29Like,
09:29show me where he's,
09:30which boxes he's checking.
09:32The answer would be none.
09:34One.
09:34I don't know.
09:35Like the,
09:35the,
09:36the,
09:36the,
09:37the compromise that they're having to do here is significantly greater because,
09:41because of all this.
09:42And again,
09:42and yes,
09:44if,
09:44if,
09:45if,
09:45if he had just showed up,
09:47then San Francisco would have,
09:49would have released them essentially.
09:50And we wouldn't have had what's gone on here now for this past month.
09:54That's what I'm saying.
09:55So he couldn't have had as many questions to answer on the back end of this.
09:59Right.
10:00The only questions we had at that point were essentially,
10:02Hey,
10:03you know,
10:03what's his health?
10:04How's the knee?
10:06How's his knee?
10:06Does he want to really play?
10:07Okay.
10:08Guess he wants to play.
10:09Maybe he's answered that,
10:10but like the rest of it is a huge deal.
10:12And yes,
10:13I mean,
10:14you know,
10:14again,
10:15I understand that when you talk about culture and what it means to be a commander,
10:20I understand to a degree,
10:21these things are,
10:21I think they believe it.
10:23I think this is something that they preach to their players,
10:25but also it is a little bit of a,
10:27you know,
10:27selling point that any company does right to explain what it means to be part of
10:31this great organization.
10:32But it just becomes harder when you then bring in somebody who is doing all the
10:37things that you're suggesting would be not part of that.
10:42And now you're going to tell me,
10:43no,
10:44no,
10:44no,
10:44no,
10:44he's fine.
10:45Okay.
10:46Okay.
10:46I would suggest that the lack of action is an indication that,
10:53you know,
10:54you have to ask the question,
10:56does he really want to play?
10:58If he really wanted to be here,
11:00he could have taken action already,
11:02uh,
11:03to get that process going.
11:05And reportedly he has not done that.
11:07We'll see what happens with the beginning of training camp.
11:10Um,
11:11if he's applied for reinstatement at that point.
11:14Um,
11:14but I think that question's very much,
11:16uh,
11:17in play.
11:17And I think you're a hundred percent right.
11:19I mean,
11:20you've got a question at this point,
11:22um,
11:23you know,
11:23what you're bringing into your,
11:25you know,
11:25revamped culture.
11:26Look,
11:27none of this would be a conversation if a,
11:31he didn't have tantalizing talent.
11:33Obviously this wouldn't even be a thing.
11:36Uh,
11:37but B it wouldn't be a question.
11:39It would be for a lot of people because of the health.
11:41And a lot of people didn't even think he was that good.
11:43I think people who just pay attention to our team versus the rest of the
11:46league,
11:47weren't really sure how good he was.
11:49Um,
11:50but,
11:50uh,
11:51he's made it problematic for not just,
11:54you know,
11:55the debate going on among fans and media members,
11:58by the way,
11:59part of that is that he's had very little support from people close to the
12:03situation or in the game.
12:05Very little.
12:05In fact,
12:06I mean,
12:06TJ Hushmanzada,
12:07his mentor basically said,
12:09beware George Kittle said,
12:11basically beware we Dante Wittners said,
12:14you know,
12:14beware of what's your game.
12:16There've been a lot of warnings from other people,
12:18not just his videos.
12:21Um,
12:21but yeah,
12:22uh,
12:23it would have been so easy.
12:25Had he just gone in and said,
12:29I'm applying for reinstatement.
12:31My knees better.
12:32I'm healthy.
12:33I'm ready to play football.
12:34And then the 49ers would have had to make a decision.
12:37Are they going to keep them?
12:38Are they going to have them in training camp?
12:39Are they going to risk him getting injured?
12:41Where then all of a sudden they're actually on the hook for,
12:45you know,
12:46uh,
12:46the guaranteed for injury part of the contract.
12:49Um,
12:49and he hasn't done any of that.
12:51Hasn't done any of that,
12:52but by all accounts,
12:54that's what he needs to do.
12:56And also like,
12:57you know,
12:57we still don't know exactly what set it off that led him to stop showing up,
13:02which is how,
13:03which is why the 49ers.
13:04Richard Sherman says the Superbowl target number.
13:09Oh,
13:09okay.
13:10Well,
13:10I was going to say Richard Sherman.
13:11I saw the,
13:12um,
13:14the part,
13:15a part of the clip of him talking about it,
13:17saying that like,
13:18you know,
13:18the deal is if you can rehab on your own,
13:20but if you do,
13:21which is fine,
13:21you have to show up four days before the start of camp where everybody else just
13:24has to show up the eve because they want to,
13:27you know,
13:27take a long look into what you're up to and whatever.
13:29And if you don't do that,
13:30then this is where you start to have problems.
13:33So,
13:33you know,
13:34if,
13:34if that's the issue again,
13:36fine.
13:37If he thinks that he should have gotten more targets of Superbowl,
13:39or he doesn't like where his locker is located,
13:42or he thinks you have a better parking space,
13:43whatever it is,
13:45go with your agent and say,
13:47Hey,
13:48this is not acceptable for us.
13:49We'd like to get out of here.
13:51And then,
13:52you know,
13:52if you're really willing to throw the money away,
13:53say,
13:54okay,
13:54and we will accept,
13:55we will allow you to keep this as long as you let us go.
13:59All of that.
13:59I mean,
13:59you know,
14:00we can question it in another way,
14:02but that's all reasonable that that's how negotiations work.
14:06You know,
14:07go ahead,
14:08do that.
14:08But this is just a whole other,
14:10you know,
14:10it's just hard to understand what is,
14:12what is happening.
14:13I know we've been saying this now over,
14:15but by the way,
14:15I do think there's something else to consider here.
14:17And that is,
14:19you know,
14:19obviously we,
14:20we keep talking about the start of training camp as to when maybe we see some
14:24action here,
14:24because that's when would be the next opportunity for him to show up and
14:28for San Francisco's hand.
14:29Well,
14:30there is another time marker here.
14:34And that is when other free agents who are available start getting signed.
14:38Right.
14:38I mean,
14:39if,
14:39if,
14:40you know,
14:40right now there's not a lot of urgency from anybody's side,
14:43like the free,
14:44the veterans guys,
14:45they didn't want to show up for,
14:46for,
14:47for minicamp,
14:48things like that.
14:48So they're just waiting.
14:49And,
14:50you know,
14:50at this point there's no urgency.
14:52Right.
14:52So,
14:53but at some point there will be,
14:54at some point we'll start hearing Stefan Diggs is visiting so-and-so and
14:58talking to so-and-so and same with Keenan Allen or whoever else is out
15:01there.
15:02Well,
15:02if Washington is willing to wait because they know they're going for Brandon Ayouk,
15:06then it doesn't matter.
15:08But if they're not and they do decide,
15:10Hey,
15:10we do,
15:11we would like to bring at least another veteran experienced guy or whatever,
15:15then,
15:15then that has to have come sooner.
15:17So,
15:17you know,
15:19maybe that's not a definitive answer,
15:20but we'll probably get a better feel once those guys start.
15:24When do you think that'll be?
15:25I mean,
15:26Stefan Diggs is posting videos and I was going to ask you next about,
15:29I think that's where I am right now.
15:31It's like,
15:31I just,
15:32this guy doesn't seem very serious about playing,
15:36football at this point.
15:37If he were serious,
15:38he would have already applied for reinstatement.
15:41He would have shown up for OTAs.
15:42It seems like he's more interested in trying to be,
15:45you know,
15:46a social media entertainer.
15:47So if that's the case,
15:50Diggs is ready to play.
15:51He has played recently.
15:52He doesn't have the upside that Ayouk has,
15:55in my opinion,
15:56for not only this year,
15:57but the future.
15:58But at what point do you think Diggs starts to talk to teams or we start to
16:04hear about Diggs talking to teams?
16:08Yeah.
16:09I mean,
16:09you know,
16:10the conversations have been going on,
16:13you know,
16:13for,
16:13for some time,
16:14you know,
16:14once his situation cleared up with the legal system,
16:17you know,
16:17I know that,
16:18you know,
16:19there's the least general contact,
16:20you know,
16:21with,
16:21with teams,
16:22with him,
16:23with his camp.
16:23But,
16:24you know,
16:26you know,
16:26like what Gvon Miller signed,
16:27like right before a day or two,
16:29before the start of camp last year.
16:30And Dan Quinn told us the other day that,
16:32you know,
16:32those were conversations that had been going on for weeks.
16:35Not just,
16:35it wasn't just a,
16:37Hey,
16:38we looked at the mini camp practice and decided we needed help.
16:41They had been talking.
16:42So,
16:42you know,
16:43it could literally be days before the start,
16:46the start of,
16:47of camp.
16:47I mean,
16:47I guess,
16:48obviously if one team says to him,
16:49Hey,
16:49we would like you,
16:50but we can't,
16:51you know,
16:51we get nervous if you don't go.
16:53So we're ready to do this.
16:54So maybe it,
16:55it,
16:56it triggers something quicker,
16:58but you know,
16:58it may not be until a few days before training game,
17:01before the marketplace,
17:02at least at the top of the market,
17:03it's going.
17:05I mean,
17:07do you think,
17:07I mean,
17:08the one thing when I think about digs is they,
17:10he,
17:11he may not be a good fit for them.
17:13You know,
17:13like he's maybe a little bit more possession receiver than he is deep threat.
17:19Like he used to be at this age,
17:21they may see,
17:23you know,
17:23what they have as comparable.
17:25I,
17:26I think that's a reach.
17:28Um,
17:29whereas Iuke is an outlier talent wise right now.
17:33And at his age,
17:34if he's physically healthy,
17:35but do you think that,
17:37I mean,
17:37is it,
17:37is it possible that there's just no interest in digs?
17:40Cause they don't see like massive incremental value.
17:44Yeah.
17:45I think that's completely plausible.
17:46You know,
17:47we've talked about how if they're going to use more to the 12 and 13
17:51personnel,
17:52right.
17:53Then that would logically mean,
17:55you know,
17:56it's not like back in the John Riggins era where that would mean two tight
17:59ends out on the outside of the tackles and,
18:02or,
18:02you know,
18:03I guess,
18:03or have the eight back and then just like a lot run block,
18:06run block,
18:07run block.
18:07In this case,
18:08it would be more likely bait in line,
18:10kick a con clue lining outside to some degree.
18:14So if that's the case and you only have to have one other receiver on the
18:18field in a two tight end set,
18:19then,
18:20you know,
18:21I understand the big hypothetically might be better individually than
18:24everybody else they have,
18:25but don't you want Antonio Williams to get on the field?
18:27Don't you want to see Jalen Lane or,
18:32you know,
18:33Traylon Burks or whatever.
18:34So like,
18:35I think at that point,
18:36maybe it isn't as big of a deal because if it's not going to just
18:39solely be,
18:40he's the guy definitively,
18:42he's just one of the pieces.
18:43They do have a lot of pieces.
18:45So yeah,
18:45I don't,
18:46I,
18:46it's very possible.
18:47They're just not as interested in him as we all may think.
18:51And I,
18:52for the most part,
18:53I think I would be okay with that.
18:54Now,
18:54if again,
18:55if this was last year where you're going 11 personnel all the time,
18:59that might be different because now that,
19:01well,
19:01now you have a lot of spare parts.
19:02The hero looking at having to have maybe one spare part,
19:06you know,
19:06one rotation.
19:07And that's therefore he maybe is not of as much of interest as we all
19:10might think.
19:12All right.
19:12We're talking to Ben standing,
19:14of course,
19:14at Ben standing on X,
19:16Ben covers the team and writes about it on his sub stack.
19:21I would urge everybody to subscribe.
19:23It's just a couple of,
19:24a couple of dollars a month.
19:26It's totally worth it.
19:27He has done depth chart.
19:31One point zero where every position right now stands a month before training
19:37camp.
19:37We'll get to that in a moment.
19:38But I was talking about this story that Ben Solak wrote for ESPN.com this
19:44morning.
19:44I don't know if you saw it,
19:45but I knew that there was a lot of turnover and coordinators,
19:50but,
19:51and I even guessed at one point without really doing the math on it,
19:54that this has to be one of the biggest turnovers and coordinators in NFL
19:57history.
19:58It is in fact,
19:59the most turnover in offensive coordinators and defensive coordinators in
20:05one off season in NFL history,
20:0735 new coordinators,
20:1021 new offensive coordinators,
20:1314 new defensive coordinators.
20:15And he wrote about the 10 most intriguing essentially,
20:17and both Blau and,
20:21and Durante Jones were among the top 10 that were most interesting with the
20:26most questions.
20:27Did you read this or not?
20:28I have not.
20:30Okay.
20:30So one of the things I wanted to ask you about is in,
20:33in writing about Blau,
20:36he writes that the challenge here is marrying two systems,
20:42the Kingsbury system and the Ben Johnson system.
20:46And then one of the big takeaways is it took a while just for the Ben
20:50Johnson system in Chicago for Caleb Williams to get comfortable.
20:55They struggled to get to the line of scrimmage on time early in this season.
20:59They had a lot of those growing pains,
21:01but he writes,
21:02look,
21:02if Blau can land the plane and blend these two offenses,
21:06there's a chance Washington's offense is one of the league's most dangerous
21:10down the home stretch.
21:12This might be the coolest,
21:13the coolest thing we see all season.
21:17Marrying,
21:18I think implies the offense is going to be 50% Kingsbury,
21:2350% Ben Johnson.
21:25Do you agree with that?
21:29No,
21:30I don't either.
21:32You know,
21:33look,
21:33obviously this is all a guessing game by all of us,
21:35to what degree percentages.
21:37And,
21:37you know,
21:38even Drante Jones,
21:38we're all assuming you're just going to bring Brian Flores.
21:41And he's like,
21:41well,
21:42I've also worked for Marvin Lewis and other coaches.
21:44So,
21:44you know,
21:45who knows what spin there,
21:46each of them is going to put on it.
21:48But in this case,
21:49no,
21:50I think,
21:50I think Quinn made it pretty clear.
21:53They're not looking to keep the cliff Kings very often.
21:55If they did,
21:56they would have kept cliff Kingsbury.
21:58They're,
21:58they're looking to do something different.
22:00And obviously just simply going under center more and no,
22:03and,
22:03and huddling that itself is radically different.
22:06Now,
22:06can you keep some of the past patterns?
22:08Sure.
22:09I'm sure there are plays where Jaden Daniels,
22:10especially in shotgun says,
22:12Hey,
22:12I really liked this.
22:14David Blatt is not an idiot.
22:15He's going to say,
22:16cool.
22:16We can keep some of that.
22:18I mean,
22:18David,
22:18and also,
22:19you know,
22:20we,
22:21we all understand that David Blatt,
22:22this is a big mystery because he has not,
22:25he's barely been a coach,
22:26let alone a coordinator,
22:27but he has been here the last two years.
22:29He isn't coming in as a person,
22:31as a personality,
22:32completely cold,
22:33the way Ben Johnson did with Chicago.
22:36So,
22:37you know,
22:37they,
22:38they've had successes together.
22:39They've seen what's worth,
22:41what hasn't.
22:41And I'm sure that gives him a big leg up again.
22:44He has,
22:45we don't,
22:46we haven't seen the experience.
22:47We just have to see him implement everything.
22:48What's he going to do?
22:49you know,
22:50when the,
22:50when the game is live and it's third and seven,
22:53what do you do?
22:54But the,
22:55the,
22:56the implementation,
22:57all that,
22:57all those aspects,
22:59I'm not really that worried about that part,
23:02part,
23:02because again,
23:02I don't think they're going to do,
23:03it's not like a 50,
23:0550 marriage here.
23:06It's more just like here.
23:08What are the things that we want to keep cool?
23:09Now let's go throw out the rest and come over here with this.
23:13And you know,
23:14he's been working with Jaden on this again.
23:16I don't,
23:17I'm not saying that Ben Johnson was more of a,
23:19you know,
23:20like veering towards like a traditional coach,
23:22like dictatorship scenario.
23:23Like here's what we're doing,
23:24but it was probably more of that than it will be here because David Blau is,
23:30you know,
23:30coming in completely fresh to the whole thing,
23:32but also he's already been here.
23:34He has a relationship.
23:35They don't have to my way or the highway,
23:37the whole situation.
23:38All right.
23:39You put out your first depth chart.
23:42How many will you have before the final cut down?
23:45I mean,
23:46I don't know.
23:47I mean,
23:47honestly,
23:48nine,
23:48we'll go to double digits.
23:50No,
23:50no,
23:50no,
23:50no,
23:50no,
23:51I mean,
23:51honestly,
23:51this could be the one.
23:52Cause I,
23:53I was like,
23:53no,
23:55you're going to do this five more times.
23:57No,
23:58no,
23:58no.
23:58I'll do 53 five more times,
24:00but it was too early to do that.
24:02I figured this is more like,
24:04instead of saying who's going to make the team,
24:06this is like,
24:06okay,
24:06let's look at the people who are trying to make the team and try to,
24:10what's the heart.
24:11What was the hardest position to,
24:12to create a depth chart for?
24:18I mean,
24:19I think the receiver,
24:20I mean,
24:20not even,
24:21you know,
24:21not even factoring in the,
24:23the IUC aspect,
24:25you know,
24:26again,
24:26like is,
24:27is anybody going to emerge as more than just part of a committee?
24:31Is anybody going to be able to step up and look at me?
24:34Maybe that is Antonio Williams,
24:35the guy with,
24:35you know,
24:37the blank slate that we just don't know about him in the NFL level.
24:40You know,
24:41again,
24:41it's not like Jalen Lane,
24:42you know,
24:43was able to show a ton last year for a variety of reasons.
24:45Is it possible?
24:46You know,
24:47he's got great speed and maybe he's a guy that can,
24:49that can emerge.
24:50You know,
24:50I know there's people out there excited about what Traylon Burks can do
24:53coming in here from the start of a year,
24:55rather than halfway through.
24:58And he's,
24:58you know,
24:58far removed from the injuries and things like that,
25:00et cetera,
25:01et cetera.
25:01Then there's also the,
25:02you know,
25:03how many are going to be kept,
25:04who's making the team.
25:05So I just think the receiver situation as a whole,
25:08and I would also just sort of combine it with the other skillset position
25:12at running back.
25:14You know,
25:15is Bill going to definitely be the lead?
25:18We,
25:19you know,
25:19we haven't seen him,
25:20his work in the,
25:21in the passing game because he was out.
25:22So,
25:23and also,
25:23you know,
25:24they just haven't been doing as much.
25:25So what does that look like?
25:26If he's able to show he can block and be a viable receiver,
25:30then maybe he is getting,
25:31you know,
25:3260%,
25:3265% of the work.
25:34If not,
25:35then we're looking at is Rashad white.
25:37You know,
25:37it's just a,
25:37you know,
25:38sort of a 50,
25:3850 with Kay Tron Allen,
25:40Jeremy Nichols filling in.
25:41So I think that,
25:42you know,
25:42those situations could be drastically different.
25:44You know,
25:45if we're talking sort of fantasy football ish,
25:47I don't,
25:48wouldn't know what is that going to tell people right now,
25:50because of those things are more up in the air.
25:52Whereas like tight end,
25:53you know,
25:54I think it's pretty clear who's the one,
25:56who's the two,
25:56who's the three.
25:57And the only real question is,
25:59is,
25:59you know,
25:59Colson Yankoff,
26:00the four again,
26:01you know,
26:02so that's different than these other groups where the hierarchy feels like
26:05it's kind of all over the place.
26:07Um,
26:09what,
26:09just give me an idea of what you think the starting secondary for DBs,
26:14let's just assume they're in some sort of base defense with 3d lineman or
26:194d lineman.
26:20If it's 34,
26:21four linebackers,
26:22who are the four DBs when they go out on the football field for the first
26:27time against Philadelphia in September?
26:29Yeah.
26:30I mean,
26:30I would assume Trey Amos is one corner.
26:32I'm going to assume Mikey Sanders still is another one.
26:36Uh,
26:36obviously Nick cross at safety and,
26:39you know,
26:40until further notice,
26:40I would say Will Harris feels like sort of the safest bet.
26:44Obviously they talked last year about when he went,
26:46when he went out,
26:47how that,
26:47you know,
26:48hurt their communication in the secondary.
26:50He's like the more natural free safety.
26:53It feels like,
26:53I mean,
26:54I think say Quan Martin has more upside,
26:56but we saw how his year kind of went.
26:58So I would say Harris would be the fourth guy right now.
27:02And unless they show us some other type of variation.
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