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00:00I don't know too many other people who are saying they'd go to Buffalo right now,
00:03but I've been told that Hellebuck would waive for them if they can get a deal done.
00:09What is that?
00:09I don't know how many people would go to Buffalo right now.
00:12What does right now have to do with it?
00:13Right now is a great time.
00:15Yeah, it's an odd, yeah.
00:18Right now is when you would go.
00:19Yeah.
00:20Say that any other time the last decade.
00:23But what do you mean right now?
00:27Probably didn't really mean anything by it.
00:28Just said it.
00:29Probably not.
00:30Happens to me.
00:31Trying to accentuate how cool it maybe is that Hellebuck's agreeing to come here, supposedly.
00:37But yeah, I don't know.
00:37Yeah, that stung a little.
00:39Right now.
00:40Yeah.
00:42If there is any, Elliot Friedman, if there is anything to that, that's not good.
00:48Right.
00:48Like, if now would be a bad time to waive your no trade clause and accept a deal to Buffalo,
00:59then we're in bad shape.
01:00Because I don't know why you would not right now think it's exciting.
01:04Yeah, I would rather go there when they're terrible, but now they're good and it doesn't really seem like it's
01:09for me.
01:11I mean, just that, that would not be good.
01:13I don't, it probably means nothing.
01:16Probably not.
01:17The, uh, what we were reacting to as we went to the break.
01:20I mean, I mentioned the, uh, Chad DeNaminis' from Expected Buffalo tweet telling Sabres fans to go back about their
01:26day.
01:26About an hour or so ago, maybe a little earlier than that, uh, Kevin Weeks tweeted just a picture, an
01:33action shot of Hellebuck and, uh, the googly eyes.
01:38And, you know, Weeks does that.
01:41He, you know, intentionally takes bad photos of his forehead with, with different things he's doing.
01:46I don't know.
01:46He's got a whole bit he's working on, uh, social media, I guess.
01:50How's it going?
01:51Um, I, I, I, whatever.
01:53We're, I'm paying attention.
01:54I follow him.
01:56So, I mean, to that extent, I guess it's worked.
01:58Uh, and so we, okay.
02:00Is there something happening here with Hellebuck, you know, imminent and, um, Chad's tweet, I think is in response to
02:07that.
02:08Like what he's hearing from maybe inside is, you know, go about your day.
02:12Well, maybe it's another team.
02:13It could be another team.
02:14That's, that's right.
02:15Yeah.
02:16I mean, yeah.
02:16What, what Chad is telling you is like, he's not hearing the Sabres are in.
02:19What are you hoping for?
02:22I'm, I feel like I'm, uh, I'm at this point.
02:25Uh, yeah.
02:28This is what happens in free agency and the NHL off season is you end up really wanting things you
02:36thought you didn't want.
02:38I don't know if anybody else experiences this.
02:41Maybe you, people are, and I would say this as a compliment, if you're maybe, you know, more dug in
02:46about something as unimportant as a hockey opinion.
02:49You know, like it's good to be flexible and learn things and get more data and change your opinion about
02:55things that really matter in our society.
02:57Who's on your hockey team is not really high up on that list.
03:00Um, but so you can dig in on it and be, you know, immovable.
03:05If you want to, I don't want to spend anything on a goalie.
03:07Our goalies are fine.
03:09Me, I kind of felt that way a month ago and now we're here and the thing we're hearing the
03:17most is that they're still trying to do that.
03:19And so now, well, they must really want to do it.
03:22I want them to get it done if they really want to do it becomes sort of my position, which,
03:27you know, sort of ignores everything else.
03:30Well, you didn't, and I don't, I don't consider myself different in this, in this one instance, but Trocek the
03:38other day, you want action, but you don't want just any action.
03:42Right.
03:43So like, please let this not be real.
03:47So I'd like them to do something that I think has a chance of improving their team.
03:52And as much as a goalie is not my favorite idea, I think it's entirely reasonable to look at acquiring
04:00Connor Hellebuck as an effort to improve your team.
04:03And that's what we're all kind of waiting on because we're, we're giving them a lot of credit, rightly so
04:09for the, the, the, the haul they got in the Byram trade.
04:12But I don't think anything about anything they've done so far has made them better yet.
04:19So that's what I'm waiting on.
04:21And believe me, if I was hearing, you know, Matthew Nyes with the googly eyes from Kevin Weeks, that would
04:28make me happier than Connor Hellebuck.
04:30I would prefer moving assets for that player than for the goalie.
04:36Can we stop with the eyes out there?
04:40Just say it.
04:41If you got it, just say it.
04:42If you don't, don't talk.
04:44If you got it, what you got?
04:46Anything?
04:47Say it.
04:48No?
04:49Stand down.
04:50What is the, how does that tweet, how does that have any value?
04:55How do you make a living on that?
04:58I'm just going to tweet, there's a, there's a player in the league who, there's constant speculation about us being
05:04traded.
05:04You know what I'm going to do?
05:05Put a picture of him on my Twitter with googly eyes.
05:08Wow, what did I do?
05:11People want you to know something.
05:13They assume that you know something.
05:15Maybe he does.
05:16Let's hear it.
05:17I'm always talking about how the, if you will, the real insiders, I mean, the top names, will tell you
05:24that they're hearing about a trade and then in 10 minutes it happens.
05:26When Elliot Friedman says, I'm hearing so-and-so could go to Florida, in 10 minutes he goes to Florida.
05:32That happened with Markstrom earlier today.
05:34Sure.
05:35And that's not even really saying it either.
05:37That's closer.
05:38Right.
05:38But don't give me a picture and googly eyes.
05:41Then what are you doing?
05:43Then you're like, digs.
05:45Right.
05:46Then you're a player who's just teasing me to get a rise out of people uselessly.
05:52It's pretty digsy.
05:53Yeah, it is.
05:54Tell me or don't.
05:55Do you have it?
05:56If you're going to be in the media and purport to be somebody in the know, don't fool around with
06:03it.
06:04Don't abuse the privilege.
06:06Say it.
06:07Or just wait.
06:09Do you get credit for being first?
06:11Not that anybody cares anyway in the real world.
06:14Do you get credit for being first if you put a picture of Connor Hellebuck in googly eyes and then
06:18three hours later he's trading?
06:20I told you.
06:21No.
06:21I mean, that doesn't count.
06:22No.
06:23No.
06:24Where he lives in that space is, I'm hearing something.
06:30I don't know that he ever breaks a trade.
06:33But he is first on, you know, hearing things.
06:38But, you know, what did that get us when Matthew Kachuk got traded from Calgary to Florida?
06:43Like, I think 24 hours before that, there was weeks with Matthew Kachuk to the Sabres.
06:50I had an eight or ten hour joyride emotionally considering that prospect as being real.
06:58And then, you know, he got traded to Florida.
07:01I'm trusting that Hellebuck is not going to get traded to Florida because they made a goaltender trade, actually two
07:06of them, over the last couple of days.
07:08So I think they're probably all set in goal.
07:11Maybe New Jersey is going to trade for Connor Hellebuck because they just traded away their starter in Markstrom to
07:16Florida.
07:17So that opened up a chair for them.
07:19You know, they've got two of the Hughes brothers on their team.
07:22I don't know.
07:25Maybe that's an appealing landing spot.
07:28I think it would be, actually.
07:31I mean, I feel like I'm different on this every day, which, I don't know, should I apologize for that
07:36in terms of Hellebuck?
07:37I don't think I want it.
07:41Good.
07:42The premise...
07:43I mean, it's good for you for taking a stand.
07:45The premise on...
07:46Yeah, I mean, I don't need a trade.
07:47I also want to not get to game one and have us all be talking about, you know, like Paul
07:53with how they've regressed since last season.
07:55I'd rather not end up there.
07:57That's not just goaltending.
07:58That's just, in general, Tuck and Byram.
08:00But the point...
08:03I've made this point a lot.
08:04When it came to Tuck, if I've got one of the top GMs, he is going to find me a
08:11better Tuck.
08:13Maybe not better, like, immediately, but a better idea or close to the same level of idea because you lose
08:22guys.
08:22Like, that can't be avoided.
08:24So, I want to trust that and not just pay him a contract that I think I'd regret, you know,
08:30maybe pretty soon.
08:31And I think the Hellebuck premise is largely the same, that the contract isn't the problem.
08:39The contract is fine, but I'm going to lose two of my gems, probably, to do it.
08:48And I want to see this team come back with mostly the same roster.
08:53And if I'm doing that, then I might be sacrificing that.
08:56You know, too much for my palate.
09:00So, I would not deny, like I've said also, why I feel like I'm vacillating is I would not deny
09:06that it would be super exciting.
09:08Like, you would get a ton of credit for doing it.
09:11Like, oh, you're, you know, bold moves and the Sabres are, like, never before making a trade like that.
09:18I mean, the Sabres, if they really ever made a trade like this would be where they're trading for the
09:24goalie who's been the best in the league for 10 years.
09:26I mean, the best goalie of all time was a Sabre.
09:28They got him as a throwaway.
09:30Like, it wasn't that they just sold the farm.
09:32Trading for Grand Fure is probably the closest you could argue that they got.
09:36Yeah, and they probably shouldn't have done it.
09:37They probably shouldn't have done it.
09:39They didn't need him.
09:40But, you know, they've maybe almost never done this.
09:43And if they do it, it would be shockwaves.
09:47And I would enjoy that.
09:49I would enjoy the next three months sitting here looking forward to the season.
09:55Knowing that he's their goalie.
09:57And I would miss Helen Euse only so much in that time.
10:01But I think probably as it gets going, I would be like, oh, well, I knew it was probably something.
10:07It was probably a bad idea.
10:09And I would expect that.
10:12I would lean on that side of it.
10:14Right.
10:15And then if they don't win, you know, right.
10:17I mean, if it doesn't work.
10:18If it doesn't, you don't go farther.
10:20You don't get to the whatever.
10:21You don't win a trophy.
10:22Then, oh, why did I do that?
10:23I could have still had the kid.
10:24I don't know.
10:26I just need something here in the next few days.
10:33I mean, tomorrow free agency opens.
10:35Right.
10:36And I know it's not literally like this, but we say this every year.
10:40And now we're all sort of on alert because the Sabres had a great season.
10:44So all of this matters again in a way that it hasn't in a long time.
10:48It just feels like there's this four or five day window here to do something.
10:54And even though July 6th is just this coming Monday, it feels like it's all over.
11:02Like everyone goes to cottages and we'll see you in September for camp is what happens to the NHL.
11:08And so I'm not hearing anything about the Sabres connected to Dylan Larkin or Matthew Knives or Jason Robertson anymore.
11:19The fourth pick is gone.
11:23So I'm hearing about Hellebuck.
11:25All right.
11:26If that's what you're trying to do, go do it.
11:29Pull something into the boat here.
11:31It was always my third choice.
11:34And they have replaced Byram.
11:36I think anyway.
11:37I don't know if they've actually come out and said that.
11:38But I think the trade they made Friday for the Anaheim kid is a fine idea for a Byram replacement.
11:44So we're really to do I want to do something in goal or do I want to directly somewhat replace
11:53Alex Tuck?
11:53And I say it that way because, you know, that could be two people.
11:57Perhaps, you know, maybe you don't get everything all in one that Tuck was for you.
12:02So that's why I like the Knives idea so much because, to me, that is a plug-and-play, seven
12:07years younger, more affordable contract, comparable scoring potential anyway, and a penalty killer.
12:17Like, he checks all the boxes to me.
12:19Big body, all of it.
12:21But there's no juice there.
12:24There's no eyeball emojis.
12:25There's nothing.
12:25There's not Elliott Friedman saying, well, they couldn't get across the finish line before the draft,
12:30but I'm hearing they're reconnecting on Matthew and I.
12:33It's like, no, that's not out there.
12:36So I'm sort of focused on Hellebuck, and it's become my priority because I think it feels like the only
12:42thing I might get.
12:44Other than, to me, your name here in free agency.
12:48I don't love anything that's out there, really, enough to get excited about it if they were to pull it
12:57off.
12:58So, you know, we had a call, like, last week, one day, Boone Jenner.
13:03Like, oh, what?
13:05Like, that doesn't really do anything for me.
13:09And there's plenty of guys like that out there.
13:13So, I don't know, maybe they end up doing some of that once July 1 comes.
13:20But, I don't know, I wonder if they have it in them to get finally, once and for all, frustrated
13:28with the Hellebuck situation
13:30and pivot to, like, Bobrovsky and free agency or something and try to sell him on that.
13:35He's going somewhere.
13:35He's probably, yeah, he's not going back to Florida.
13:38They made their move today.
13:40I want to see Helen Euse win the Calder as a Sabre.
13:44That's what I want.
13:46That's more important to me than, you know, the Stanley Cup.
13:50A guy I don't know that's half my age or more than half my age, less than half my age,
13:54win the Calder trophy.
13:5614-1, by the way.
13:58Odds are out.
13:59He's the seventh choice.
14:01McKenna is second, not first.
14:05Porter Martone.
14:06Okay.
14:06Is the betting favorite at BetOnline to win the Calder.
14:09Hudson is going to be a rookie.
14:12Cole Hudson.
14:13Oh, yeah, Lane's, yeah, the young, the brother.
14:16Yeah, yeah.
14:17Frondell.
14:19Anton Frondell.
14:21Stenberg.
14:22But Helen Euse is up there on the list.
14:24Seventh choice, 14-1.
14:26Where's the other Hudson?
14:27Washington?
14:28I think he's in Washington.
14:30I don't know.
14:31Yeah, I think that's where he landed.
14:35Doesn't have it there with the odds.
14:36They just have the names.
14:37There's no teams.
14:39No teams.
14:39No, that's the tough thing.
14:40You've got to know who these guys are.
14:42Viggo Bjork is 60-1.
14:43That's Winnipeg.
14:44Winnipeg, I'm aware of that, yes.
14:46Chase Reed, 80-1.
14:49Seattle.
14:50Mm-hmm.
14:53Sal Capaccio coming up at four.
14:56Paul Hamilton.
14:57Greg Bauk.
14:58Author, Greg Bauk.
15:00So now, I think it's gonna be on question.
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