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JP, Tobi, and some callers debate whether Washington should actually trade Anthony Davis.
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00:00It was John Morant, excuse me, yesterday that was saying Anthony Davis to Golden State is really gaining steam, right?
00:09That this is really going to happen.
00:11And I kind of think we all thought that might happen.
00:16And now Brian Windhorst, I believe this morning on ESPN is kind of saying the opposite.
00:22Here's Brian Windhorst talking Anthony Davis.
00:25I'm taking the Anthony Davis thing off the front burner.
00:28I do not have data that says that that's likely to happen.
00:32Now, I could change.
00:33My information could change.
00:36I do not see traction from the Wizards to want to do that.
00:40The Warriors told Jimmy Butler they're not trading him.
00:43I think the focus right now is can they get LeBron James away from the Los Angeles Lakers?
00:50So, Windy, and I guess LeBron came out and kind of slammed Windy.
00:54But, like, Windy's been covering LeBron since Akron, since St. Mary's, St. Vincent.
00:59That was his break into the biz, covering LeBron.
01:03Now, I don't know that he knows definitively, and I think he's even saying, I don't know, but I don't
01:08see it happening.
01:09The question is simple for the phone lines.
01:12Do we think Anthony Davis is getting traded to Golden State?
01:15Like, where is this?
01:17Start with our guy, Mark in Largo.
01:20Mark, what's up, dude?
01:22Hey, what's up, JT?
01:23How you doing, buddy?
01:24Good, man.
01:25How are you?
01:26I'm doing pretty good.
01:27No, he's not getting traded.
01:29And I'm going to tell you why.
01:31Wind horse is right.
01:33By them signing for Zingas and bringing back our horses, you really don't need Anthony Davis.
01:38And then more, I hate to say it, I guess they trust them more than they trust the other two.
01:44I think if they were going to trade, if the Warriors were going to trade for Anthony Davis, 50, they
01:51would have done it before the draft.
01:53Because think about it.
01:54If they could have gave the 11th pick and got Anthony Davis in return for that, they could have given
02:00that before the draft.
02:02They really could.
02:03Because basically, Washington wasn't going to move unless they could Yatchel, which was their 11th pick.
02:09So, I doubt if that happens.
02:12Now, I will say this.
02:14That still doesn't rule out the question that Anthony Davis won't get traded.
02:18He still may get traded.
02:20It's just not going to be with the Warriors.
02:22All right, Mark.
02:23Hey, Mark.
02:24Can I say something?
02:26Yeah, go ahead, bro.
02:27I think this is the first time you've called and not ended yelling.
02:35Oh, my God.
02:36I always appreciate the passion, but this was just a...
02:39I guess because B-Mix is on vacation or something like that, I'm trying to calm myself down.
02:46I have to control myself when I'm talking to B-Mix because him and Doc and I always see people,
02:52when they rise up in anger, I say, okay, it's time for me.
02:56I can't go there with this.
02:59And nothing personal gets me.
03:00I love you, Jay.
03:01It's okay, dude.
03:01All good.
03:02You want a good job.
03:03So, let me ask you this.
03:05Okay.
03:06Do you see, outside of this trade, do you still think Davis may get moved?
03:12Yeah.
03:12I think plenty of moves could happen.
03:15I think there's going to be action.
03:18I'll frame it this way.
03:19Thanks for the call, Mark.
03:20Good to hear from you.
03:20Have a safe and happy Fourth of July.
03:24If you don't trade AD, do you then have to sign him?
03:29I think that's kind of what the leverage is here for Anthony Davis, right?
03:32If you're not going to move me, then go ahead and sign me that max contract.
03:37And I don't know that the Wizards necessarily want to do that.
03:41I know plenty of Wizards fans that don't want to do that.
03:43So, it's interesting.
03:45But, I mean, you look at Golden State, and I think he brings up a good point that if they
03:50were so interested, would they have just done this before the draft?
03:52I think there is a scenario in which they could say, we wanted to make sure that we got our
03:57asset, Yaxle, that we could at least feel like we've got somebody young that we're developing
04:03that's playing with this team and trade future picks, maybe just thinking that we need that
04:09one extra guy to have on this team versus future teams.
04:13Because when you think about it, if they trade for Anthony Davis and come up with the master
04:17plan that we've heard from Shams, where it's Steph, Draymond, AD, and LeBron, that team
04:24is playing, what, one year together?
04:26Maybe two?
04:27I highly doubt even more than one year.
04:29So, if that's the case, you feel like maybe you can get Yaxle in, and he can start to
04:34be part of that group that plays with them, the young guys, and then maybe takes over
04:38after the fact?
04:39Maybe that's some of the thought process, so it doesn't preclude it.
04:42But I do think it is a good point that maybe they're less likely to do it, and they weren't
04:46as keen on doing it because they didn't do it before this year's draft.
04:48Let's go to Bones in Southeast.
04:50What's up, Bones?
04:53Hey, my main man, JP, man.
04:56How you doing, bud?
04:56Shout out to Mark and Locker, man, for not, you know, yelling out, right, but it don't
05:02make sense to me.
05:04You know what I mean?
05:05I mean, I ain't got the Wizards, you know, trading AD, man, because, you know, that would
05:10go against everything that they were trying to accomplish in the beginning when they
05:14first acquired AD, you know?
05:16So, we need AD, man, to help develop, you know what I'm saying, the young big man that
05:21we do have on the roster, man, you know, and we need him, you know, to solidify, you
05:27know, the leadership with him and Trey Young.
05:29Nah, that would go against everything that they said that they were speaking about in
05:33the beginning, you know?
05:34Nah, that don't make sense to me.
05:36I ain't with that one.
05:37Uh-uh.
05:38Thanks for taking my call, man.
05:39Love you guys, man.
05:40Thanks, Bones.
05:41Good to hear from you, bud.
05:42Appreciate it, man.
05:43I get that folks are excited about seeing AD, Trey Young, AJ, DeBonsa, Keyshawn, like
05:50all the young talent, like it would be exciting, but if my options are trade Anthony Davis or
05:58sign, extend Anthony Davis, I'm on the trade side of that.
06:03100%.
06:03100%.
06:04I don't think that there's a scenario in which you can at least explain away the Trey Young
06:09one, and I know most people probably were not for that extension, but I think there
06:14is a way that you can explain that one and it makes some sense and that it won't feel
06:18like it's going to blow up.
06:19I don't know that you feel as good about doing that for Anthony Davis with the injury history,
06:24with his age, because at least Trey Young is still in his late 20s.
06:27Yeah.
06:28Anthony Davis is into his 30s, and he's someone that was already injury prone in his 20s,
06:32so that's going to be difficult to feel like you're going to get the bang for your buck
06:36in a max extension with him.
06:37And not that father time doesn't come for everybody, but like Trey's skill set is shooting,
06:45you know, like obviously the quickness and all that's super important, but like he's a
06:48shooter.
06:49Yeah, and a passer.
06:50That tends to age better than being like a big man.
06:53Correct.
06:55I don't know.
06:56The NBA is so hard to get a read on, so I'm just kind of scrolling through Shams' Twitter
07:02feed here.
07:03Do you know where Bradley Beal is now?
07:07It is remarkable what has happened to Beal.
07:09Was he with the Clippers last year?
07:11He was with the Clippers last year.
07:13He has declined.
07:14Bradley Beal signed a contract in Washington for a quarter of a billion dollars.
07:19Let that sink in.
07:20A quarter of a billion dollars.
07:22Yeah.
07:23You ready for the, at least to me, the latest Brad Beal update?
07:27Yeah.
07:29Los Angeles Clippers guard Bradley Beal has declined his $5.6 million player option for
07:35next season, making him an unrestricted free agent.
07:38You want to bring Beal home?
07:40No.
07:41How old do we think Brad Beal is?
07:4530.
07:46He probably came into the league at 19.
07:4732?
07:49All right.
07:50We're going to pull up the Brad Beal file.
07:52What do you think his rookie year was?
07:54Oh, man.
07:55And granted, you were probably 10.
07:56Yeah.
07:57I mean, what, what did Wall get drafted in 2010?
07:59He's probably 2012, somewhere around there.
08:01Rookie year was 2013.
08:02He is 33.
08:04He just turned 33.
08:05Man.
08:06Like a week ago.
08:07Actually, two days ago.
08:08Happy birthday, Brad.
08:10Man, I really liked him and he had some really good seasons and then it just kind of went away.
08:16Yeah.
08:16It just went sideways.
08:17Gang after Gley.
08:20That's crazy to think Brad Beal was making like the, the dollar amount changes on
08:26that contract are crazy.
08:28Not that $5 million isn't a ton of cash.
08:30You and I would kill for that.
08:31But in the NBA, that's super nubs.
08:34Kevin Herter made more than that with the deal he just signed with the Pistons.
08:37Yeah.
08:37Um, I don't know what's going to happen with Anthony Davis.
08:45I do know I am not into a super max extension.
08:50Correct.
08:50And that's the tough part is like, you're right that I would love to see this team play together
08:54because I think that it would be fun.
08:56I mean, the rim protecting duo of Alex Saar and Anthony Davis would be one of the best
09:01in the league.
09:02And that's not being hyperbolic just for the sake of being hyperbolic.
09:04Like you got one of the best shot blockers of all time in Anthony Davis and you got one
09:08of the best shot blockers in the league right now in Alex Saar.
09:11So that'd be really fun to watch together.
09:12But I don't think that's something that when they made the trade for Anthony Davis, they're
09:16thinking long term here.
09:17I don't think they're trying to think that he's going to be here for three and four years.
09:21I don't think you're signing him to that extension.
09:23So I think that's maybe you just hope that you can get some sort of assets.
09:28I mean, it seemed like when we were talking about this yesterday, it seemed like this
09:31Golden State thing had real legs.
09:33Maybe it doesn't have as much.
09:35But I mean, even Wendy said in his statement there on ESPN, like it could change.
09:40It's not saying definitively, no, this isn't going to happen.
09:42Just maybe not with the urgency that some people were thinking that it gets done today.
09:47But I don't know how interested other teams are.
09:50That's what I thought was interesting about Boston potentially being linked here with
09:54Jalen Brown.
09:55That's what I thought's interesting about Golden State.
09:57And maybe it's just more along the lines of what I was thinking of.
10:00Maybe he has to play some games here and then a team gets, you know, a little bit desperate
10:04towards the trade deadline and then maybe you get your most value there.
10:08Yeah.
10:09I mean, if he plays games and plays well, you're almost in another rock and a hard place.
10:15Similar to like the Nats with CJ Abrams.
10:17Obviously, there are different stages of their career and the Nats payroll is an issue.
10:22The Wiz don't have that.
10:23Like they'll spend the money, right?
10:25But if he plays and plays well and the Wiz are competing and like we get to Thanksgiving
10:31and they're the five seed in the East, then can you flip them?
10:36Because isn't the point to compete now?
10:38Yeah.
10:38I mean, that's the tough part.
10:40But I think the other, the most difficult thing here, honestly, that complicates it is
10:44what if Anthony Davis says, I'm not playing unless you sign me?
10:48Trade me.
10:49Like that's where it gets really difficult.
10:51And when like leverage is an interesting thing.
10:54If you ever watch wrestling, not pro wrestling, I'm talking about like actual wrestling.
10:58Yes.
10:59Like the dudes with the headsets on.
11:00Like leverage can flip fast.
11:02UFC fights.
11:03Like all it requires is one dude to like flip the other guy over and pause.
11:09And like maybe the Wiz have some leverage in trying to move AD right now.
11:14But if he then says, if you don't extend me, I'm not playing here.
11:17You get stuck selling him for 15 cents on the dollar.
11:20Correct.
11:21And that's where you don't want to be because you did trade assets to get this guy.
11:23And that was part of the risk in acquiring him.
11:24Correct.
11:25Correct.
11:25So I don't know, man.
11:27It's a tricky spot.
11:28It's a tricky spot.
11:28It's a tricky spot.
11:28It's a tricky spot.
11:28It's a tricky spot.
11:28It's a tricky spot.
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