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Dan Hellie, the voice of the Commanders preseason, joins The Kevin Sheehan Show to talk about his time in the booth with Doc Walker and Brian Mitchell, and what he’s hearing from production meetings with Dan Quinn and the front office. Dan dives into the team’s new-look roster depth, identifies camp sleepers in Robert Henry and Joshua Josephs, and shares his thoughts on Jayden Daniels’ development heading into the season opener.
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00:00Joining me right now, Dan Helley, of course, of Channel 4 fame, of NFL Network fame,
00:10and last week with Riggo and Brian Mitchell doing the preseason game,
00:15and he'll be on the call for the game on Saturday against Detroit as well.
00:20First of all, I haven't talked to you in a while, and I'm so glad to catch up.
00:24I thought you guys were really good, and I know that you're probably self-critical
00:29and you can point out the things that you didn't love, but overall, you've got a good feel for this.
00:35You've been doing college football play-by-play, college basketball play-by-play, UFC play-by-play.
00:42Overall, what did you think?
00:44I thought we had a lot of fun.
00:46I think in the preseason, chemistry is hard to create, and we've never worked together before as a crew.
00:55And, you know, Riggo hasn't been in a broadcast booth for 30 years.
00:59He was telling a funny story about the last time he was actually calling a game was with Dick Stockton.
01:04And so that was a long time ago, and Beamich clearly dialed in because he does a daily radio show
01:11and the pregame shows and is uber-involved with the team.
01:14But I was really pleased with it.
01:16You know, we had some moments after a rough start by the commanders, and I think we kind of found
01:22our groove.
01:23You know, that's the one thing you worry about, especially as a play-by-play guy,
01:26who's kind of the point guard of that broadcast, is I don't want to step on those guys.
01:30I want to give them enough room.
01:32And I think for the most part, we did that.
01:34Certainly there were some areas we could clean up, but I think we had fun.
01:38You know, I talked about this on the show, that doing preseason football games is not easy for the play
01:47-by-play guy.
01:48There are 90 players that potentially could participate in the game.
01:52I've done, you know, college football before where, you know, that week one when you have, like, depth charts,
01:59but, you know, they're like four and five.
02:01It's not a three deep.
02:02It's like a six deep because there are over 100 players.
02:06And that's a big challenge going into a game in which you haven't seen the team, right?
02:13You have to be prepared for that.
02:16Well, it's huge.
02:17You have double numbers.
02:18You also have guys.
02:19You know, the way we do it is there's a guy named Tony Britt who prepares, we call them our
02:24boards.
02:25Basically, it's our depth chart that is oversized, and we write things on,
02:31and they put the stats in from the last couple of years,
02:33and we take all our notes from our production meetings and our coaches' meetings
02:36and things that we've read and that we've learned, and that's our Bible, right?
02:41So we have a spotter, and we have a stack guy, and the spotter helps me kind of identify who
02:46makes the tackle.
02:47But, you know, college, they're double numbers.
02:50The NFL, you've got 90 guys on the roster.
02:52There's three.
02:53You know, just this week, they added five or six new players to the team and released a few guys.
02:58So you get this chart on Tuesday, and then all of a sudden you're adding names and crossing out numbers
03:06and doing all this crazy stuff.
03:07You just want to make sure you have the right guy who makes the play, you know?
03:10Yeah, and you're a pro, and you understand the difference between a regular season game
03:18and a preseason NFL game.
03:21And I thought what you understood as sort of the keep-the-trains-on-time guy was,
03:28look, this is as much of a talk show and trying to entertain over a three-hour period as it
03:35is,
03:35you know, game flow, score, time, all of that.
03:40It's just much different than a regular season game, correct?
03:44Oh, it's entirely different.
03:45You know, I did the Titans preseason games for six years with Charles Davis.
03:49Wow.
03:49I didn't know that.
03:50Yeah, we were there during the, you know, the Mike Vrabel era and a year or two prior.
03:57So I have a pretty good feel for the preseason games, but you're exactly right.
04:01You know, if the starters are in or the backups are in or there's position battles,
04:06those are all things you need to address.
04:07But if, you know, I think this last game we had a long conversation about the worst turf in the
04:14NFL
04:14when Riggo and Beamich played.
04:16Yeah, when the Dolphins are up easily.
04:20You know, the Dolphins are driving using their third stringers in the third quarter.
04:25I don't feel the need to say that it was a, you know, a two-yard gain by Anthony Hankerson.
04:32You know, like, I think we're okay, you know, continuing the conversation for a little while.
04:35So you got, you know, you got to pick and choose your spots.
04:37But you're right.
04:38Once you get in the second half of the preseason games, you know, there's a lot of big picture stuff.
04:42There's a lot of chatting about position battles.
04:45And it's really fun to get, you know, those guys' outlook.
04:48And especially, you know, the running back position with Riggo talking about guys like K-Tron Allen and Robert Henry.
04:54And I think he was especially impressed by Robert Henry.
04:58I don't think many people really knew a whole lot about him before that game.
05:01And that was his, I guess you could say his coming out moment.
05:05But it seems to work this way, especially for running backs in preseason.
05:10You saw it towards the end of the game.
05:11You know, they're going to run a vanilla offense against a vanilla defense.
05:15And they're just going to, once they've seen everything they need to see,
05:19they're just going to run those guys to death to run down the clock.
05:22You know, one of the things over the years in doing this for this long, I've always tried to get,
05:29especially when I was doing the pregame show for the Skins Radio Network, which I did for like 14 years,
05:36I would always try to get the play-by-play guy on the show or the game analyst.
05:41Because they had this access to the coach and the quarterback and sometimes another, you know,
05:49two or three people on that Friday before a Sunday game.
05:53And they got more than most of the beat reporters would get.
05:57They'd get some nuggets that I think the coaches and or the quarterback would save and give to them.
06:04And I always found it to be pretty instructive and pretty informative.
06:07And sometimes we'd get stuff that, hey, we didn't know that.
06:12Do you have that access for these preseason games?
06:17And, I mean, how much of that did you take to the air on Friday night?
06:23That's a great question.
06:24And I've been there at every level, right?
06:27I've been the local reporter who hosts the coaches show.
06:30I've been the national host at NFL Network.
06:34And I've been doing the games.
06:36And I would say second only to probably newsbreakers and insiders who are constantly in contact with the coaches
06:43in terms of knowledge and value are these production meetings that we have with the coaches and coordinators
06:49and sometimes some players before the games.
06:53And, yeah, they tell you who they expect is going to be playing and generally who's going to be out
06:58there first
06:58and a lot of times how long they plan on playing the guys.
07:02And a lot of it's just for background, you know, just so you're talking about position battles
07:09or who we could be seeing a little bit later.
07:12And it really ranges, too, the amount of information and the willingness to share from head coach to head coach.
07:20And, you know, the coordinators will give you, especially during a regular season game a lot of times,
07:26a little bit more about the game plan, but it's the head coach who's going to tell you, you know,
07:31who's hurt, who's playing.
07:33They always defer to him.
07:36But, yeah, it is incredibly informative.
07:39You learn a ton about these teams when you talk to the coaches.
07:44And, you know, I also got a chat with Adam Peters for 15 or 20 minutes.
07:47And he was very insightful in terms of, you know, what he thought about certain guys
07:53and what he was excited about with the team this year.
07:56And it's all helpful just in terms of background.
07:59You know, you have to be the expert on whatever team you're doing that week.
08:04And that's not always the easiest thing to do.
08:07I'm kind of going – I'm spinning it ahead to college football, right?
08:10I'm going to dip into Texas Tech for my first game of the year.
08:12And, obviously, they had a very eventful offseason.
08:15Sure.
08:15And it's their time to share or to spin or however they see it fit to use that time.
08:25And I always find that the guys who share more kind of get it because they realize,
08:31especially on the college football level, this is an advertisement for your team for three hours.
08:37Yeah.
08:37This is a national advertisement for your team.
08:40This is a recruiting pitch for everybody who's watching this game.
08:43It's obviously different in the NFL.
08:47But you have to build up that trust.
08:48There are certain coaches that won't give you much.
08:52And if you've done a couple of their games, by that second or third game, they're giving you more.
08:56You know, I had that example in Tennessee when I was doing the preseason games.
09:00And Mike Vrabel came in.
09:02And it took me a year or two to where he realized my paycheck was coming from the same place
09:08as his.
09:09You know?
09:10The team pays the preseason broadcasters.
09:13It's very different than calling a regular season game, whether it be NFL or college.
09:20But the background, it just helps us sound educated and be educated when we're talking about these specific position battles,
09:29especially during the preseason.
09:30Well, what can you share with us that isn't going to be out of school about what you've learned from,
09:37you know,
09:38one of the conversations you've had with various people about how they feel about the team?
09:44I was surprised, not by how good they feel, but the position groups and how much better they feel.
09:52I think they were, when you come off an NFC Championship game, the next step is the Super Bowl.
09:57Right?
09:58So last year, it was a much older roster.
10:01And everybody was thinking the next step was the Super Bowl.
10:04And then injuries happened and life happened and football happened.
10:07Right?
10:07It didn't go that way.
10:09For them, injuries happened all season long.
10:12Yeah.
10:12Exactly.
10:13It was, you know, when your best guys are hurt, you're not going to be able to win.
10:18But they feel so good about some of the weaknesses last year, right?
10:24The defense is completely revamped.
10:26You're going to have, you know, seven, eight new starters on the defensive side of the ball.
10:31The wide receiver room, I don't know that I've ever seen before the change in perception after one player is
10:39added,
10:39that after training camp has been started.
10:42And, of course, I'm referring to Stefan Diggs, right?
10:44Everybody now kind of falls into their natural slot or role.
10:49And I think I said this during the broadcast.
10:51You know, Dan Quinn said there are eight receivers on our roster right now who were good enough to be
10:58on the 53 last year.
11:01So they're going to be cutting guys, whether it be the wide receiver room or the tight end room or
11:07defensively, that are going to be playing in the NFL next year.
11:11And I don't know that you could say the same thing about last year, right?
11:15So that's a good feeling.
11:16You've done something right when you are blessed with enough talent on the roster to be letting guys go that
11:22are going to be playing for other teams next year.
11:24So they just feel really good about where they are.
11:28You know, they feel really good about Brandon Coleman.
11:31They feel like left tackle is his best and most natural position.
11:36And he got a good look last week.
11:38He was, I believe, along with Chris Paul, the only starters that played on the offensive line.
11:45And they wanted them in there to protect Marcus.
11:48And then obviously Marcus gets banged up anyway to no fault of anyone's.
11:52But so, yeah, I think they feel really good, really good about where they are.
11:59Obviously, the Tunsil hit stinks.
12:02I mean, he's a top two, top three left tackle in the world.
12:06And that sucks.
12:07But they do feel confident that Coleman can fit in there nicely.
12:13Do you have any sense, you know, not only based on the time that you've spent with them and getting
12:21ready for this preseason,
12:23but sort of the chronology of the last several months as it deals with that other receiver,
12:31and it ended up being digs, but for a while there was a lot of conversation about Ayuk until he
12:37kind of left the reservation on social media.
12:40But do you have a sense of what you think Adam Peters and company, what they were thinking, let's just
12:47say, post-draft about the receiver room?
12:50Because clearly it is a lot better than it was last year.
12:54But what do you think they really wanted to do?
12:59I think that Ayuk was probably in the conversation at some point and that he talked himself or posted himself
13:10out of that conversation.
13:12You know, I think they probably had, I think Diggs and Ayuk and, you know, Keenan Allen, maybe a couple
13:19other guys, they were looking at them all.
13:21You know, they wanted to upgrade there.
13:24I think they couldn't be happier with the way that things worked out with Steph.
13:30And I think they're really excited about Antonio Williams.
13:35But, you know, if you don't have Steph, then all of a sudden everybody else is playing more.
13:42They carry a larger burden.
13:44And now it's just everybody's kind of where they're supposed to be, you know.
13:48And then there's going to be, there's going to be a breakout guy.
13:51There's going to be a, they're going to have to make some really hard decisions, right?
13:54You have your, you have your, your kick and punt returners, right?
13:58Say, let's just say if, if Jalen Lane and Luke McCaffrey are going to take two spots in that wide
14:05receiver room because they're your returners.
14:09You know, where does that put, where does that put Jefferson?
14:12Where does that put Burks?
14:13I think Brown's probably good because, you know, he's a different receiver than a lot of those other guys are.
14:19But I'm also, I'm telling you, this Jalen Bradley kid can play.
14:22He nearly blocked two punts.
14:25I mean, and that's the kind of thing that we probably didn't talk about enough that B. Mitch was all
14:31over.
14:32Yeah.
14:32And we did mention it.
14:34But that's the kind of thing that could put him over the top, right, in terms of making the 53.
14:39Like, if they can use him in some of these other roles on special teams.
14:41But he's, he's a big kid.
14:45He's a local guy.
14:48He's, I know I said this on the broadcast, that he, they brought him in for a local tryout.
14:54And Adam Peters said it was probably the best local tryout he had ever seen.
15:00And this is a kid that was well-traveled.
15:01He started his career at Pitt and he went to Charlotte.
15:03And then he wrapped up at UNLV, the new era of college football that we're in.
15:07That's the other thing.
15:08The part about calling these games is trying to list off the four or five schools that some of these
15:12kids went to sometimes.
15:13But I had, I had one or two of his games over the last couple of years.
15:18And he's, you know, he can play.
15:20And then the other guy that we didn't, we didn't hear much about, and we haven't heard as much about,
15:27is Nick Nash.
15:28That wide receiver from San Jose State that had over 100 catches one year.
15:31Yeah.
15:31He used to be a quarterback.
15:32Massive production in college.
15:34Yeah.
15:36So, where do you think everybody in that building is right now on Jaden Daniels entering year three?
15:43I think their number one concern is just hoping that he can get through the season healthy.
15:48You know, he has been picking up the offense, which I don't think is a surprise, maybe faster than they
15:56anticipated.
15:57You know, David Blau came into his, he started his coaching career essentially with Jaden, right, like as the assistant
16:03quarterback coach.
16:04He's been alongside of him all three years.
16:07The trust level there between the two is through the roof.
16:12I don't think they could be any happier with his performance and the way that he has progressed in this
16:19new offensive system.
16:20And to be honest, I don't think we're going to see it at all in the preseason.
16:25I jokingly asked David Blau, what percentage of your offense are you going to show in these next couple games?
16:33And he said zero.
16:36Yeah, right, yeah.
16:37I don't know that we're going to see, you know, we're not even going to see him come out, you
16:43know, I think with 11 and 12 personnel the whole game.
16:45And I don't know because I haven't talked to them leading up to this next game yet.
16:50But I would imagine that that's going to kind of be the game plan, you know, the whole preseason is
16:55not to show much, if anything, at all.
16:57Did you have a chance to sit with Blau and with Durante Jones?
17:02We did.
17:03We talked with both of them.
17:05Everybody who was doing the radio crew and the TV crew all chatted with them together.
17:12So first impressions?
17:15Well, I've listened to a lot of – I've seen a lot of stuff with Blau.
17:20He's done a couple of podcasts, and I've been kind of following him a little bit.
17:28He's really – what's the word I'm looking for?
17:33Kind of cerebral.
17:35You know, he's just a very smart guy.
17:37Everybody talks about the relationship piece and how inclusive he is, and that trickles up.
17:46I don't know if you can trickle up, but to Dan Quinn, right?
17:49Like, he's just very inclusive of the whole staff, and everybody has a say and does their part.
17:56And, you know, Durante just – he just seems to get it.
18:00He's been with Flores.
18:02He's been part of some really good defenses.
18:05He ran his own show at LSU in 21.
18:08Another local guy, which I appreciate, you know, he's coming home and where he grew up, you know, Bishop McNamara
18:15High School.
18:16And he's a smart dude.
18:17Like, he just – when – he is tailoring his defense to what his guys do best.
18:23And, again, I don't know that we're going to see that in the preseason, but, you know, he made it
18:27very clear when we were talking about his system.
18:30And he said, it's not my system that these guys have to adjust to.
18:34It's me.
18:35Any good coach would say the same thing, right?
18:37It's my system that has to adjust to my personnel.
18:40And he feels pretty good about the personnel that he has.
18:43You know, I'm curious to see game two for Sonny Stiles.
18:47You know, he had that one drive.
18:49It was his first game.
18:50Everything's just kind of happening.
18:52It was a little bit of a blur.
18:53And, you know, I've seen that he's taken a little heat for the way things went down.
18:56But it was – there might have been two starters out there defensively, you know, against the ones from Miami.
19:03And I understand that the commanders are expected to be a significantly better team this year than Miami, which will
19:08be one of the worst in the NFL.
19:10But I really don't think you can judge your, you know, seventh overall draft pick.
19:16You don't think so?
19:18Because I just found what I read on the show yesterday, and I'll read it as if it was written
19:22to you, from Joel.
19:24He writes, I guess you hadn't heard, Dan.
19:26Twitter has already gone through the All-22 and definitively determined after a couple of preseason series that Sonny Stiles
19:34is a bust.
19:37I mean –
19:37I just watched it.
19:38I actually watched it.
19:39I think it was Dove Kleiman that put something out.
19:41And it was a flip-up of that drive.
19:43Oh, my God.
19:44I mean, can you imagine being a real football fan and thinking that the one drive in a preseason game
19:51is a rookie, you can actually figure anything out.
19:56Bless their hearts.
19:58We have Dan Helley on the show, and he'll be calling the game Saturday in Detroit.
20:04It's a 12 noon kick on Channel 9 locally.
20:08You know, as of the recording of this, there is kind of a coin flip-ish nature to whether or
20:16not we're going to see any of the starters, in part because they ended up not going padded practice yesterday.
20:22They went padded practice today.
20:23Are you expecting to see, Jaden, and some starters on offense and defense?
20:30I would think that if you're not having joint practices – and this is what most teams do in the
20:36NFL, has been my experience over the last few years – is that when you don't have those joint practices,
20:42that's the game.
20:43If there is a game in which you play your starters, Sean McVay, for instance, out here in Los Angeles,
20:48doesn't play starters, period, ever, preseason, doesn't do it.
20:51And those joint practices are game situations, and being that there are no joint practices this week, yeah, I would
21:00think it's more likely than not that we see those guys out there for a couple of drives.
21:04Again, I have no information.
21:06I haven't talked to anybody, but that's what I would think most teams are thinking in the preseason.
21:14And then I would expect, too, even though it's vanilla, that you want to get your guys out there and
21:19get them a good look and maybe see a couple of passes from Jaden to Steph and Terry and a
21:27couple of the tight ends.
21:29But I don't know.
21:30Maybe Marcus going down scared the bejesus out of them.
21:35You know, I know we got a long look at Hartman and Callie McManus, but, you know, neither one of
21:41them is the experienced backup that Marcus Mariota is.
21:45And maybe they don't want to put Jaden out there.
21:48So I'll be curious.
21:49I don't know when they're going to talk about it.
21:51I know that Dan said these next two days were really important, and it sounded like he was going to
21:57be deciding after today, maybe Thursday.
22:03So, yeah, I mean, it would be nice to see him.
22:05I think everybody would like to see him out there, right?
22:07Yeah, I mean, I think I would.
22:09It's a new coordinator.
22:10It's a new center.
22:11It's a new receiver.
22:12It's a new back.
22:14Everything's new.
22:15He hasn't taken a snap since early December last year.
22:19And even if he were to play a series or two, it would be another 20-something days until he
22:24takes a snap again.
22:25So, yeah, I mean, I'd like to see it.
22:28But I always feel like that's one of those conversations where we really don't know.
22:32Like, they know, and they know how ready they really are.
22:37I'd just like to see, with the starting quarterback, David Blau, be on the headset and work a series before
22:43doing it for the first time in Philadelphia in the season opener.
22:47But that's just me.
22:48I don't know.
22:49Yeah, I would love to see it, too.
22:52You know, their rebuttal would be, well, that's what we do in joint practices and every single day of practice
22:57is, you know, on the headset.
23:00But there isn't a stadium.
23:01There's not a clock.
23:02There's not fans.
23:03There's not real referees.
23:05There's not a play clock that you're looking at.
23:07You know, there's all of those things, like in a stadium.
23:10But, again, to your point, they may just say...
23:13There's a play clock and they're all real.
23:14No, I know.
23:15But I'm just saying, it's not the exact same.
23:17But to your point, they may say, no, this is a replica.
23:21We're good.
23:22Yeah.
23:23They know more than we do.
23:25And I don't know, to be honest, I don't...
23:27I mean, I know as a fan and as a broadcaster what I would like to see.
23:33But I don't know what the right answer is.
23:34Are you going to tell Sean McVay not playing the center ever in preseason since he's been in L.A.?
23:39Is the wrong move?
23:40Probably not.
23:40Yeah.
23:41That's kind of my point.
23:43I mean, I don't think we really know.
23:44And it's, you know, they know a lot more than we do when it comes to everything.
23:50But in this particular conversation, it just seems to be a conversation we have every mid to late August.
23:56Because what other conversations are we going to have?
23:58All right.
23:59So, let me finish with a couple of quick ones.
24:04You already mentioned the wide receiver room.
24:06And we've been talking about it, you know, all summer long.
24:09And, you know, I know they love Van Jefferson and it would be hard to cut him and they might
24:15have to.
24:16Who knows?
24:16And it's a crowded room.
24:19Do you think for them this is the area that will be the hardest to cut down to say from
24:25wherever they are now, 8, 9, 10 to 7 or 8, whatever the number ends up being?
24:29Is this the position group that's going to be the hardest for them?
24:33Yeah, I think so.
24:35I mean, tight end is not going to be easy either.
24:37Right.
24:38I mean, Yankoff has been playing great.
24:41You kind of have your guys in, you know, Chig and John Bates who are slotted in there.
24:46And, you know, you have Sinnott who's been around for a minute.
24:50But is it a Yankoff-Sinnott competition?
24:56You know, you've got Mark Cager there.
24:59I think running back is going to be a little bit easier.
25:02You're just going to have to decide, are you keeping four running back?
25:06You can't keep, in terms of the skilled players, you can't keep four running back, six receivers, four tight ends.
25:12You know, you've got to make decisions, right?
25:14So, one position group is going to affect the other.
25:17But, yeah, I would think that, I would think the receiver is going to be the toughest.
25:22By the way, in watching Henry Jr., and I heard Riggo talking about it, and you and Brian,
25:28I mean, you know, there are things you can observe that have nothing to do with, you know, the actual
25:34game or down in distance.
25:36That dude's just a natural runner.
25:38And I went back and looked at this, and he opened up last year against one of the best college
25:45defensive teams in the country in A&M.
25:48He rushed for 177 yards and 11.2 yards per carry in a game that was halfway competitive.
25:55A&M won the game by two scores.
25:58But A&M's defense, by the end of the year, I mean, Miami really got to them in that playoff
26:02game on the ground, but it took three quarters to get there.
26:05I just thought that guy actually really looked the part, especially for, like, a zone run scheme.
26:13Yeah, I think he was great.
26:15And I said this on the broadcast, I believe it was, I don't remember who they played, but I had
26:21one of his games last year.
26:22And I'm like, who is this kid?
26:24And from week, I don't know, five or six to week nine, he was the second leading rusher in college
26:33football.
26:34He was, like, crazy good.
26:39And the way that he moves is so different than Allen.
26:43Allen is a, you know, 220-pound, you know, bowling ball when he gets his pads on.
26:49And Henry just has, like, he has juice.
26:53The way he moves is different.
26:57And that's going to be a big question, right?
26:59Where, you know, behind Bill and Rashad White, how healthy is McNichols, you know?
27:06Right.
27:07Jerome Ford has been placed on the physically inactive list, right?
27:11So then is one of those guys going to be the third-string guy?
27:16I think it depends on, I don't know, maybe what they're doing on special teams
27:20and which one can catch better coming out of the backfield, because they're very different backs.
27:25Very different.
27:26Henry and Allen.
27:27But we're going to be seeing more of them, probably, than we see of anybody else in these next two
27:33preseason.
27:33No doubt.
27:33And they had him back on punts.
27:35They had him back on kicks.
27:36Clearly, they wanted to see it, you know, kind of under the lights to see whether or not what they
27:42were seeing all along was real.
27:45So I'll finish up with this, although I do want to ask you about your college schedule.
27:48Is there a player that you think they're really excited about that might be a surprise to, you know, the
27:58fan that's even paying attention to the preseason?
28:01Is there somebody that you've gotten a sense, God, they really like this guy?
28:07I think they really like Joshua Josephs, the rookie out of Tennessee.
28:15He was drafted in the fifth round, and I feel like they think he's going to play this year.
28:24That he will contribute in some form or another.
28:30So defensively, I think they really like him.
28:35And I think they're excited.
28:36I think they're excited about Antonio Williams, too.
28:38I just don't know, you know, given the situation in the receiver room, how big of an impact he has
28:45right away.
28:46But, and, you know, the other obvious ones, you know, the Chig and Steph.
28:51Right.
28:52You know, we haven't heard much about Rashad White, and I feel like he's going to have a massive impact
29:00on this offense this year.
29:01I agree.
29:02Totally agree.
29:04Yeah.
29:06But, yeah, that's kind of some of the young guys and some of the old guys.
29:09And, you know, I'm excited for the season to start, even though I'm not going to be doing the games.
29:15Because I want to see what they are.
29:16Because it's a completely different team.
29:19You know, everything that they wanted to achieve in the offseason, upgrade the defense, find another weapon for Jaden, get
29:28another running back who can catch out of the backfield.
29:31They did all of them.
29:33You know, and not everything was plan A.
29:38Right?
29:38They tried to sign some other receivers and threw a lot of money at some guys, and it didn't work
29:42out.
29:42But plan A isn't always the best plan.
29:46All right.
29:47Well, you're really good at doing this.
29:49And the challenge that you have for preseason games, you guys easily met that challenge on Friday night, and I'm
29:57sure it'll happen again on Saturday at noon.
30:01Thanks for doing this.
30:02Good to catch up.
30:03Hope you're well.
30:04Thanks, brother.
30:05Thanks for having me on.
30:06Dan Helley.
30:08You'll note that we recorded that yesterday because he was talking about practice tomorrow, as in today, and maybe getting
30:17some answers about starters.
30:19Dan Quinn did say some starters are going to play Saturday, but did not say whether or not any of
30:25them would be Jaden Daniels.
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