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Who on this Red Sox roster is still/should be UNTOUCHABLE?
Greg: "Sell everything!" Do you believe Roman Anthony is still 'untouchable' when it comes to a trade? If you had to pick 3 players that will not/should not be traded, who would you pick?
Greg: "Sell everything!" Do you believe Roman Anthony is still 'untouchable' when it comes to a trade? If you had to pick 3 players that will not/should not be traded, who would you pick?
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00:00Literally, it should be sell everything.
00:04When we were talking about Roman Anthony being hurt earlier,
00:07I had five immediate text messages on the Subaru of New England text line,
00:13which is trade Roman Anthony.
00:16Like, he's built like glass, is what one of them said.
00:22I didn't know that was coming.
00:23I mean, at some point, you kind of have to, I mean.
00:25Well, you have to think about it.
00:26Well, you're not going to trade him right now.
00:28That would be the idiotic thing to do with this value point.
00:30But, like, where are you, bud?
00:31But you know people are going to say that, you know,
00:33because he dealt with an injury at the end of last year.
00:35He obviously, you know, the beginning of this year is dealing with another injury.
00:39So, I mean, within not even a year and a half,
00:43he's dealt with two injuries that have kind of set him back.
00:46And he's supposed to be the savior or the face of the franchise moving forward.
00:52So, there are definitely going to be people out there that are going to be like,
00:55all right, well, is he even going to be healthy enough to stay on the field?
01:01What's the direction you got to go in as an organization?
01:04So, not so long ago, my guy Lou was on the show and talked about picking three or four guys.
01:10And what he wanted to do is pick three or four guys, build his team around them.
01:14Hey, it's Lou.
01:16And he didn't care, but best guy in the game.
01:18Best, most knowledgeable guy in the game.
01:23So, who are those guys to you?
01:24I would say the two guys from a pitching standpoint would be Garrett Crochet and Rangers Suarez.
01:31Okay.
01:32And then, depending on how you feel about Peyton Toley and Conley Early,
01:36I don't know, the jury could potentially still be out.
01:39From the hitting aspect of it, I think most people would probably say Roman Anthony.
01:44But, because of the injuries, because of, okay, what he's really going to be.
01:49What about Willier?
01:52Abreu might be the only one that you can look at because he's been relatively healthy.
01:56He's hit for you.
01:59He looks like your best player when it comes to your bat.
02:03Doesn't he have, like, the best left-handed batter average against lefty pitchers since, like, 2004 Ichiro?
02:10That's what Greg told me before the show.
02:12Yeah.
02:13That's crazy.
02:14So, I would say you have three guys, right, that you would say, all right, and maybe there might be
02:20some.
02:20There's three that are untouchable.
02:22I would say, you know, maybe, as long as people believe Abreu's untouchable.
02:27But I don't know if everybody would believe that.
02:30I don't think there should be anybody untouchable on this team.
02:33What about Crochet?
02:34No.
02:35I mean.
02:35He's your ace.
02:36Of course.
02:37But if somebody comes in and is like, I'll give you whatever.
02:40But can you get somebody to hit?
02:41This is what we talked about with Jalen Brown.
02:43Are you moving on from a guy and getting another ace back?
02:47And I don't know if you're going to get the value that you are supposed to get for a Crochet.
02:54I think the Red Sox organization needs an Aaron Rodgers ayahuasca cleanse.
02:57I think they need an enema.
03:00They need whatever you can get.
03:01Go on a vision quest?
03:02They just are.
03:04They need some.
03:05What is it?
03:05Peyote?
03:06They need something that will just change their mindset entirely.
03:09Because everything about this organization is wrong and rudderless.
03:13They don't care.
03:14They have zero basic understanding of baseball.
03:17Hardest thing to do is to hit a baseball.
03:19Easiest game to understand baseball.
03:21It's not hard.
03:22Hit the cutoff man.
03:22Oh, it's not.
03:23And most of these guys have been theoretically playing it their whole entire lives.
03:28Right.
03:28And then they're...
03:29Turning double plays.
03:31Well, they're...
03:31Yeah.
03:31And cutting off a throw to second and then tossing it to...
03:34Just like...
03:35Tossing it to Marcelo Meyer.
03:38Like...
03:38Can we get a Tom Amansky video to Fenway Park?
03:42It's like, what are we doing?
03:43It's awful.
03:44I mean, it's...
03:45But what would you say you do here if you're Chad Tracy?
03:48Like, what are you doing?
03:49You can't do anything.
03:49All you can do is roll out what you have.
03:51Okay, how about you say there's two outs?
03:53How about that?
03:54Well, no, I mean, those are the things that...
03:56Ducks on the pond.
03:56Sometimes you gotta tip your cap and they took some good at-bats.
03:59Well, you tip your cap to the left field wall because Jaron Duran's still banging into it.
04:02But I think to Greg's point a little bit, this team...
04:05And when I say this team, these players are, like, just looking towards the end of the season.
04:10They're checked out.
04:10They're checked out.
04:11Okay, I'll take that argument.
04:12Yeah, they're checked out.
04:13So, mentally and physically, they're done.
04:16They're like, whatever.
04:17Like, there's no chance of us doing anything.
04:19Let me collect my check every, you know, two weeks whenever they get paid and go out there.
04:25You know, I'm gonna give it my best in the sense of, like, when I get my opportunity at the
04:29plate.
04:30But, you know what?
04:32If I'm not gonna be looking to really have great at-bats up there...
04:37Do you think...
04:37Here's an excuse for Marcelo Meyer in the Twitch chat this morning.
04:41They brought him up.
04:42They forced him up too early.
04:44No, because we were, like, get him up here.
04:47We, as fans, were like, get him up here.
04:48He's been down in the minors for a few years now.
04:51It's time for him to come up.
04:53How is he gonna...
04:54I mean, it's okay to say, by the way, that he might just not be the guy.
04:57Like, that happens with prospects all the time.
04:59Yeah.
05:00All the time.
05:01And you can blame the organization.
05:04The organization takes, I guess, the blame for Christian Campbell.
05:07But, same scenario.
05:09Yeah.
05:09Like, you look at the big three, and Christian, I said this earlier this morning.
05:14I don't want to repeat myself like an old man.
05:16But, you have 2.5, two and a half question marks on the big three.
05:22Which is Campbell and Meyer and Roman Anthony.
05:25Yeah.
05:25So...
05:26And your number one job, if you're Craig Breslow, is that you need to find and identify the guys that
05:31you think are not going to be what others think they are.
05:34And trade them.
05:34And yet, he has failed on that at every level.
05:38Yeah.
05:39Well, with you, speaking of the Sox, I got a 7-8-1 text during the break on the Subaru
05:46of New England text line.
05:49Which reads, Greg, this is exactly what Alex Cora was complaining about to Rosenthal.
05:58I am guessing Texter is referring to the young guys and rushing the young guys up quick before they were
06:08ready.
06:08Which is certainly what Alex Cora said to Ken Rosenthal and was pissed that Ken Rosenthal shared.
06:16Well, it is the latest and greatest example of John Henry prioritizing flexibility regarding payroll as opposed to ability.
06:24Because Christian Campbell was not ready for the big leagues, but he played ball, signed a long-term extension that
06:30was team-friendly.
06:31So he started the year with the club.
06:32And you have that where Cora's trying to instill some semblance of baseball aptitude or the right way to play
06:41the game.
06:42And the guys that agree to these long-term deals all of a sudden get up there no matter whether
06:47they're ready or not.
06:48It's just about finances, not about the ability to play the game.
06:51Yeah, but they sent Christian Campbell down, right, when they realized he wasn't performing at a high level.
06:57And he hasn't been up all year long.
07:00Right, because you can't play.
07:01No, no.
07:02So they were doubly wrong.
07:03Right.
07:03So for Alex Cora, when you say young guys, you really only had two young guys that you had to
07:10deal with.
07:10If you want to throw Sadon Raffaella into that, you could throw him into the equation.
07:15But I don't think he was one of the guys.
07:16It was really only Roman Anthony.
07:18Who was he crapping all over, all spring training?
07:21And we were wondering what the issue was.
07:22Marcelo Meyer.
07:22Marcelo Meyer and Roman Anthony.
07:24And they were saying at the Ritz.
07:25He wouldn't even let him take any reps at shortstop, which is an issue now, I think, probably.
07:31But I think he's trying to establish something.
07:34You played for Bill Belichick.
07:36Right.
07:37He's going to argue it because he wanted Alex Cora gone a long time ago.
07:40No, you guys are only arguing it because that's your default to go back and blame Bresbaugh over Cora.
07:46You had two young players.
07:47So you can't manage two young guys on your roster?
07:51But if it was Cora's fault, why hasn't it gotten better?
07:55I'm not blaming Cora for their performance.
07:58Well, you're saying I'm going back.
07:59I'm saying what has Chad Tracy done better?
08:01I'm blaming, I'm blaming, or I guess I'm going after people who are like, oh, Cora had all these young
08:07guys he had to deal with.
08:07No, he had two young guys he had to deal with.
08:10And Marcelo Meyer, he was kind of like, he was giving him issues all spring training long, which we as
08:17fans were like, good for Cora to bring the stick down on Meyer.
08:21And now all of a sudden it's like, oh, well, Cora had nothing but young guys.
08:25No, Cora, and you guys can defend them all.
08:28He checked out.
08:29He hadn't performed at the level that he performed in a long time.
08:34And he was getting a pass and the organization was the one that was allowing him to do that until
08:42they got to the point where they decided to say, you know what?
08:45Enough is enough.
08:47Maybe you're not buying in the driveline, in which I can agree with that.
08:50We're going to stick with Brezbart and Cora.
08:53We appreciate everything you've done.
08:55We're moving on.
08:56But can't you admit that no matter whether this is Casey Stengel, Joe Torre, the greatest manager in the history
09:02of the world,
09:02it's a poorly constructed roster?
09:05So, see, horribly, horribly constructed roster.
09:08This is where –
09:09Because we have two separate managers with different approaches, both being almost equally enough.
09:15Right, but this is where you and I disagree because at the beginning of spring training –
09:18We keep going back to this.
09:20But that's part of what we're talking about.
09:22We have the same team managed by two different people and they're the exact same result.
09:25No, but at the beginning of spring training, no one looked at this roster and goes, it's a horribly constructed
09:31roster.
09:32What we did say is where is the power going to come from?
09:35Yes, we did.
09:36We said it often.
09:38Right.
09:38That's what we said.
09:39We talked often about the fact that letting Bregman go was a mistake.
09:42Yeah, we disagreed about that.
09:44I said it wasn't a mistake.
09:45You guys were on it.
09:47But we – no one was saying this roster was horribly constructed.
09:51Exactly.
09:52You were saying it when you wanted Pete Alonso.
09:54I said –
09:55You were saying it –
09:56Not the roster.
09:56It's the one position doesn't – it doesn't mean the whole roster.
10:01I said –
10:01I would do Pete Alonso.
10:03I said you had – you had an issue when it came to a power bat.
10:09That's what we talked about.
10:10Now all of a sudden we're changing the narrative and going, oh, the roster was horrible.
10:14It's not a narrative.
10:15It's a reality.
10:16Two separate people have managed this team.
10:18They have the identical record.
10:19Right.
10:20I know that.
10:20It's the roster.
10:21But no one was complaining.
10:23Who cares what we said in spring training?
10:25The players are not performing up to the standard that they should be performing up to.
10:30Jared Duran isn't.
10:32Trevor Story wasn't before he got his injury.
10:35Roman Anthony wasn't.
10:36So it's not about the guys that you have on the roster.
10:39It's the fact that they're not performing to the level that you expected them to perform.
10:45And the reason Cora was bitching about the manner in which these young guys are anointed
10:50is it's a trouble – it makes it much more difficult to have a cohesive baseball team
10:55when you have the guys that have not done anything at the big league level walking around
11:00like they owe nothing to anyone.
11:02Yeah, there's a whole bunch of young guys.
11:03That's two guys.
11:04The texter's pointing out Narvaez was a rookie last year.
11:08Uh-huh.
11:08So –
11:10And he was late this year.
11:12He had an issue early on.
11:13So it's a young – it's a young – minus Bregman or anybody else.
11:17Bregman doesn't have to be my binky.
11:19It could be anybody else.
11:21Minus those guys, it's a young baseball team.
11:25That was Alex Cora's issue.
11:27That sounds like an excuse.
11:29When you say a young baseball team and I got three guys that I'm dealing with
11:34or, you know, two guys because no one brought up Narvaez.
11:38It's just because the text – the person on the text saying, oh, he was – that last year was
11:43his rookie year.
11:43No one had any issues.
11:45It was two guys.
11:45It was Roman Anthony, which a lot of people had high expectations for, and it was Marcel Amai.
11:50When you're using your argument, that's like saying you can't be mad that the Celtics blew a three games-to
11:55-one lead
11:56against an inferior team because nobody thought they'd be there in the first place.
11:59It's so counterintuitive.
12:01No, but the excuse that you're using – like to say that it wasn't Cora's fault –
12:06It wasn't.
12:06We're looking at the roster.
12:07They have the exact same record with two different managers.
12:11It was – it's the way that these guys are performing.
12:14The reason why they stink is because the guys that you should expect to be playing at just an average
12:21league –
12:22average Major League Baseball level are performing well below them.
12:27Okay, well, then if that's the issue, if it's the players, then they shouldn't have fired Alex Cora.
12:30Right.
12:31Well, I think they fired Alex Cora because they were kind of fed up because he was like –
12:35No, they fired Alex Cora because Breslow wanted –
12:37You guys are carrying his water.
12:38You guys are carrying his water.
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