00:00This is the most slept on I've been in my whole life.
00:04Like, even when I was in high school, I wasn't this slept on.
00:08Like, I felt like I could have been top five in my class.
00:13I should have been top ten.
00:16Number one point guard, I felt like, but I was number four.
00:19So, was I slept on a little bit, maybe?
00:22But this is, I mean, it's starting to feel a certain way.
00:26But for me, I know it's all, I've learned over the years,
00:31there's a lot of recency bias that goes on, especially in media.
00:35And I know if we start winning, imagine the Wizards as the number one team
00:39in the East next year, what people are going to be saying.
00:42I'd like to imagine that, Trey.
00:45Grant and Danny welcoming you back on the fan.
00:47That's the Pivot Podcast, starring Ryan Clark with Trey Young.
00:51Trey Young, he has opted out of $49 million this coming year.
00:57The report is he's going to get $40 million per year over three years
01:01and do a deal with the Wizards.
01:02But in the meantime, he might test the market and take some meetings.
01:07We're all just supposed to sit here and be like, yeah, no problem.
01:10This is the old, like, if you love something,
01:12you have to let it free and come back to you kind of deal
01:15where go have your meetings, buddy.
01:18Enjoy those conversations with those other teams.
01:20We'll be here waiting when you want to come back.
01:23Remember our pitch?
01:23Remember we said some good stuff about you?
01:25Okay, bye.
01:26Not my favorite.
01:27Just sent you a text thinking about you.
01:28Here's my question, because I do think he will be a Wizard.
01:31It just seems like all the reporters that are plugged in are too confident
01:34and everything Winger and Dawkins and this front office have said and done
01:38is under the assumption that he's going to be here
01:41as their energizer bunny on the offensive end
01:43and their point guard leading them next season.
01:45So I have to assume that they've calculated all this and they're right.
01:50So what does this week do in the bigger picture
01:54for the Anthony Davis conversation, which is also significant?
01:57Yep.
01:58He's watching with bated breath to figure out how badly he wants to be here
02:02and what moves you're making.
02:03Who do I want to catch lobs from?
02:04Which we can get to second.
02:05And first here, the draft.
02:07Because I really do believe in a world where Trey Young somehow,
02:12someway wasn't here, Peterson becomes a way better fit personnel-wise
02:17than DeBonsa, which is not me saying that you should definitely take him.
02:21But I wonder, like if you have Trey Young,
02:24should that disqualify or take away from Peterson as a ball-dominant scorer?
02:28To a degree.
02:29And I know it shouldn't.
02:31Because here's what should happen.
02:33Your current roster should be, like you'd almost do it like a blind date style,
02:38like one of those game shows where you don't,
02:40a bachelor number two, what would you do to me if I were ice cream?
02:42Put that behind.
02:44Don't even look at your roster when you're making your selection.
02:47You take the best player on the board, we're going to some position.
02:49Curiosity, what show is that?
02:50I'm just writing it down.
02:51Remember, it's the, what's the, blind date maybe is what it was called?
02:54But you know, like there's three contestants and like,
02:56do they go crazy after like an answer that they lead them into?
03:00Yeah, it's always like one of those stupid questions.
03:03It was so suggestive and dumb.
03:04Family Feud's like,
03:05name a hundred things you'd do with your wife while you're laying in bed late at night.
03:10And then someone says,
03:11And Steve Harvey's like, oh my God!
03:13He's like, why would you say that?
03:14That's filthy, it's a family show.
03:17We were saying sleeping, or talking, or texting, or napping.
03:22800-636-1067 is the number.
03:26Uh, I think that this informs the draft only if he walks.
03:33The fact that there's not an extension done now, ahead of this,
03:39makes me wonder a little bit about Peterson versus DeBonsa.
03:44Like, are they less, in the same way that the Hawks became less desperate to keep him around
03:52because of Jalen Johnson's development?
03:54If they're settling on Peterson, I don't think that's the case, but just play along.
03:58Let's say, yeah.
03:58Let's just say they've decided they want to take Peterson at 1-1.
04:01Mm-hmm.
04:03Does paying Trae Young $40 million interest you less?
04:06Probably.
04:07It's human nature.
04:08But the thing I was saying when I used my weird analogy about the dating game,
04:10thank you, Darius, that's what the show is called.
04:12I got lost in the ice cream.
04:12Yeah.
04:13Just what would you do to me if I was ice cream?
04:14That's all I'm asking.
04:15But the point I'm trying to make is it should be in a vacuum where you go,
04:19regardless of position, regardless of fit, I am not a championship team trying to fold in a player.
04:23If I'm coming off the NBA Finals, I've got more of an eye towards my roster.
04:27I'm still very much in a building phase.
04:29I want to be good pretty soon, but if you think Peterson's the best, you take Peterson,
04:33it doesn't matter who the hell's there.
04:35With all the respect, Kashawn George can get bumped if the best player's a small forward,
04:39or Kulabali can sit on the bench if the best player's a small forward.
04:42If the best player's a four, maybe Sar has to have his development curbed.
04:45This new superstar that's coming is going to be the best player on your team if it goes well,
04:50and you take the guy that will be that.
04:51Totally true.
04:53I just think that if it's really, really close, and everyone seems to think that it might be,
04:59I kind of thought this was the DeBansa draft, and Peterson's here too, based on the last year.
05:04Now, you know how I felt.
05:05Actually, if everything was even and Peterson was not a question mark
05:09and didn't have the games where he pulled himself off the floor in the creatine year
05:13and all this other stuff, I actually would take Peterson.
05:16I just think we undervalue scoring and putting the ball in the basket
05:19in a way that he's going to be able to at the next level as a sharpshooter from the outside.
05:22Not to say that DeBansa can't.
05:25In the world that we live in right now, the reality of this past season,
05:28I'm running the show, I'm drafting, I will take DeBansa because it's a sure, safer thing.
05:33I think the floor is higher, and he's also got the unbelievable ceiling.
05:36They both do.
05:38But had this year have gone differently, I was ready to have Peterson one and DeBansa two
05:42until probably like a few months ago.
05:44Let's go to George, who's in Fredericksburg, wants to hop in on Grant and Danny.
05:48What's up, George?
05:49Well, what's up, boys?
05:50First, I'll shout out to Jermon and guys like you, Grant, for visualizing rides
05:55and supporting the local community in the northern net.
05:57Awesome, man.
05:58That was fun, yeah.
05:59My buddy Jermon Bushrod's charity event played some golf last week, Danny.
06:02You're a big golfer.
06:03Very poorly.
06:04I played some golf and ate some of Grandma's pound cake.
06:07Did you do your bit where you hit every club the exact same length straight down the fairway?
06:10I did.
06:11That's the best.
06:12I've never seen anything like it.
06:14Driver, putter, they go the exact same yardage.
06:16What's up, George?
06:17All right, so given that we're hearing the parameters of a deal, the three and the 120,
06:23and the fact that that's leaking out, and the fact that the teams with true salary cap
06:28space kind of all suck on par or worse than the winners, I think the Nets, kind of lends
06:34the fact that it's almost like a restricted free agency.
06:37Like, hey, Trey, go see what you can get, and if you can do a sign-and-trade package
06:41where it gets you another lottery pick or a talented player or two back and returned,
06:46and I think it's smart play by the Wizards.
06:48So this is what the Wizards are banking on.
06:50It's a really smart call, George.
06:52There aren't that many teams that can pay Trey Young.
06:55In fact, it's not that nobody would want him, in my opinion.
06:59It's how many teams have 40 million AAV laying around in cap space to give him,
07:04and the teams that might are way less appealing and enticing than the Wizards who are on the come,
07:10especially after he was just here being wined and dined, wearing his Ovechkin sweater,
07:15ice side on the glass at Caps games for the last couple of months.
07:19So they are certainly counting on that, and I think that's why they think he's going to come crawling back
07:23if he does take some meetings.
07:25He's on to something there.
07:26The pool of teams that can afford him is, I don't know, four to six tops.
07:31How many of those are actually appealing?
07:32The answer is not many.
07:33No, there may be a couple spots.
07:36Again, how bad you want him, you can start moving some pieces around,
07:39but the point is true.
07:40It is fairly limiting.
07:41And also, he's such a, I don't know how to say this, but he has gravity to him.
07:46In other words, if you employ Trey Young, you've got to have a good space for Trey Young.
07:49He's not going to be the backup point guard in Sacramento.
07:52He's not going to go to San Antonio and languish there.
07:56You'd want to employ someone like that because you want the basketball on his hands, in theory.
08:00Well, you're paying him $40 million a year.
08:01So you're making a massive commitment, and the team's going to revolve around him in some way.
08:06So you have to be willing to give him that power, to your point.
08:09But also, is he of the level that you will, you just said if you want him, you could rearrange
08:15some things.
08:16He's not that guy.
08:18We saw that when the Wizards acquired him in a trade, when there just weren't suitors,
08:22when he wanted to go to the Wizards because that was the best available team to go to.
08:26Teams are not willing to rearrange all the furniture in the room to make him fit.
08:30If you can get him at $40 million, like the Wizards could, you know, they got him for peanuts.
08:35Now we're interested.
08:36But if you're talking about blowing out different players and rearranging your cap situation,
08:41I don't think that is, he's a priority add like that.
08:44Let's go to Gus in Arlington.
08:45What's up, Gus?
08:47Hey, guys.
08:48So you sort of answered my sort of question, which was, I mean, if we don't sign him,
08:53then it's egg on the face in the front office, right?
08:55Because we would have given away McCallum for nothing.
08:57And do they double down and give him like a no trade clause in that situation
09:01because they're desperate to bring him back?
09:04So you didn't give away McCallum for nothing, if I could say this.
09:07I think they lost 27 of their last 28 games.
09:10You gave away McCallum so that you could draft number one overall.
09:14Let's be very honest.
09:15Yeah, it's not a contending team made a trade and then the guy like slipped on a banana peel
09:20and could never play for you, right?
09:21This is a different story.
09:22I understand the point where you go, look what you have to show for the CJ McCallum deal.
09:25A guy that's not on your roster anymore.
09:27Sort of.
09:28If you're doing apples to apples, but it's not.
09:29You're 100% right on that.
09:31But if they didn't trade McCallum when they did, they were accidentally starting to play.
09:35He was playing well.
09:37They were winning a few games, probably too many games.
09:39And it's not a coincidence that you flip him for this future asset that you really like
09:43and then he doesn't play.
09:45They shut him down and he played all of five games the rest of the year.
09:48The reason they got rid of McCallum, who was unbelievable in the locker room,
09:52helping kids develop was you were about to start risking the thing that the whole plan
09:57was about.
09:58So that's why they got rid of McCallum.
10:00And yes, it helped that you could bring in Trae Young too.
10:02As part of a longer term, with the idea of it being a longer term thing.
10:05He had his rights and they were aware of them when they traded for him.
10:09So his image has been rehabilitated to a degree with this goodwill tour that he's been on.
10:13Talking about how much he loves Washington and I'm here to help people win.
10:16And he's done the podcast tour, not as often as Anthony Davis, but he's done it enough
10:20where he's no longer thought of, or at least he's hoping, as this semi-toxic, selfish, aloof,
10:26away-from-my-teammates kind of a guy.
10:28He was here to show buying it and he's done that to a degree.
10:30Is there any way he's not their point guard when the season starts?
10:34I would say no to that.
10:36But it's a percentage chance, but it's a small one.
10:39And then the other question that I want to drill down on next and we'll take calls,
10:42800-636-1067.
10:44Does anybody out there not like the idea of a $40 million at three-year extension for
10:50120?
10:50That's the report.
10:51Three at 40 per 120 mil to build the offense around Trey Young.
10:56Are we all on board with that at this point?
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