00:00Because I don't know what you're going to say, but apparently it's going to be pretty,
00:02it's going to make me very angry, and it might make everybody else angry.
00:05Yeah, probably will.
00:06All right, what did you want to say?
00:07And I understand that, and I'll take the bullets, so to speak.
00:10Okay, that's fun. That's interesting.
00:11So, the report came out yesterday.
00:14I got tipped off, and I thought it'd be a bigger story,
00:17especially coming from, was it Marcus Spears?
00:21Marcus Spears. I'm sorry, I get the two, the former football player mixed up.
00:25From Anscape.
00:26Yeah, Anscape. And we've had him on. I've seen him at Cavs games.
00:29He actually, actually, you could tell the guys that actually get out and go to arenas
00:32and go do reporting and go talk to people in the bowels of the arena.
00:36He's one of them. So, he is pretty tapped in.
00:38And he says, from what he's hearing from basically every angle,
00:42is that LeBron, yeah, there's a negotiation for money and all that,
00:45but he's going to return to the Lakers for his final season.
00:48And that he also added Kevin Love was in on this.
00:51That Kevin Love was going to go there, too.
00:53And again, I don't think the Lakers are going to win the title,
00:55but how can you count anybody out now that I just saw Jalen Brunson
00:58and Karl-Anthony Towns win a championship?
00:59Eight different winners in eight different years.
01:00So, if that's the case, I'll be honest, I'm a little depressed
01:05because if the Cavs do decide to run it back or whatever,
01:10like, I still think they're going to be formidable.
01:12I still think, you know, given as long as they stay healthy,
01:15they can make a run in the East or conference just like they did this year.
01:17But it'll be hard for me to mentally think about them hoisting
01:22or playing for the Larry O'Brien trophy.
01:24So, I would have loved to have LeBron's final year in Cleveland.
01:28I think that would have been fitting, I think, to bookend the career like that,
01:32where he came into the league, to end it, he came in as a kid,
01:35he'd be leaving as a fully-formed billionaire adult.
01:39Pretty damn cool.
01:40I don't hate it so far.
01:41What do I hate?
01:42But if that's not going to happen, I think it's a gigantic missed opportunity
01:47for him to stay out West.
01:50For a team that doesn't appreciate him, that's not just speculation.
01:54I agree.
01:55We know that as a fact.
01:55Why do I hate what you're saying?
01:57Because the other rumors were Golden State.
02:00And look, I'll tell you this.
02:01If it's not going to be the Cavs, I think it's a huge missed opportunity
02:06for him not to stay out in this time zone to play his games
02:10out this direction.
02:13And while I wouldn't have loved this either,
02:15I think it would have been way better had he have joined the New York Knicks,
02:19the defending champs, for a bargain basement, veteran minimum contract,
02:24and joined them for a championship run.
02:26I think it would have been one of the coolest things in the NBA.
02:29It would have been must-watch TV every day.
02:31I think he would help them.
02:33I don't think they're going to get another miracle Landry-Shammet year
02:36because he's now played his way out of a veteran minimum.
02:39There's no doubt he could help a team that's contending to win a championship.
02:42And if it's not the Cavs, I think it would have been a really cool story
02:45to do it in New York.
02:47You're seeing the Manhattan-filled streets.
02:50The parade is going to be insane today.
02:54It's New York and the Knicks being a champion.
02:57They're a real hoop city.
03:00They respect hoops there.
03:02They, from Rucker Park to every playground within that area,
03:08within the five boroughs, I think it would be awesome.
03:11And LeBron's had some of the biggest games of his career at Madison Square Garden.
03:16And it would just be an awesome way, if it can't be Cleveland,
03:21it'd be an awesome way for him to finish his career.
03:23With the Knicks?
03:24Yeah.
03:25Oh, that's garbage.
03:26Over the Lakers?
03:27You think the Lakers, they don't even like him.
03:29They don't even appreciate him.
03:29Okay, but he doesn't like the Knicks.
03:32I mean, you've heard what he said about James Dolan and Phil Jackson
03:34and all those other things?
03:36I have things changed.
03:39What's changed?
03:39They just won a title.
03:40He wants to finish with a chance to...
03:42James Dolan's still the owner.
03:43He doesn't want to be the...
03:44Who does that...
03:45He hated Dan Gilbert.
03:46Came back and won a championship with us.
03:48Well, first off, Cleveland is his home area.
03:51Second of all, Dan Gilbert got on a plane and flew to him.
03:53And how did he feel about Dan Gilbert before that?
03:55He obviously didn't like Dan Gilbert,
03:56but you're discounting the fact that Cleveland is Cleveland.
03:59I think he's proven that he can let those differences subside and...
04:04For Cleveland?
04:04For a chance for his legacy to win another championship.
04:08A fifth championship at the end is enticing.
04:10I'm not going to debate you on that.
04:12It'd be an amazing story.
04:13But you're completely...
04:15It would tie him with Tim Duncan and Kobe Bryant.
04:17New York is not Cleveland to him.
04:19And of course, that last championship was...
04:20And he doesn't need to be tied with Kobe and Tim Duncan.
04:22Very heavy on the asterisk.
04:23He doesn't need to be tied with Tim Duncan and Kobe Bryant.
04:26And everybody thinks he's better than those two guys.
04:28So what does that got to do with his legacy?
04:31That doesn't have that much to do.
04:33He's still fighting for attention with Kobe in Los Angeles.
04:36You're no better than Kobe.
04:37If he's listening or his friends are listening,
04:39that's the last place you can go.
04:41You want to go to L.A.?
04:42Hell, you want to even go to Golden State?
04:44I think it's weird if he goes to Golden State.
04:46And I know his friends are listening.
04:47So the last place he should go is New York.
04:50You're Kevin Durant.
04:52You are nothing but a chaser.
04:54You are a leader.
04:55It's always been that way.
04:56People have called him that for...
04:57You cannot go to New York.
04:58People have called him that for decades.
04:59I don't think he cares about being a chaser.
05:01He's a leader.
05:01People have called him that for a decade.
05:03He goes places.
05:04They win championships.
05:05He doesn't go and chase places that already have championships.
05:08There's a huge difference.
05:10There's a huge difference.
05:11I think to solidify his legacy, the final frontier, to win another championship.
05:17And furthermore, staying out in L.A., he's only going to come to Cleveland once.
05:22He's only going to come to these cities one time.
05:25That's a terrible way for him to end his career in a final standoff.
05:29No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
05:29He goes to L.A.
05:31I don't have any emotional...
05:32He stays in L.A.
05:33I have no emotional connection to that.
05:35That's fine.
05:36I think after what was written in the whole Jeannie Buss thing, I know he's a person that
05:41takes words personally there.
05:42And if I were him, I wouldn't be feeling that way.
05:45But fine.
05:45What the hell else ever?
05:47You stay there.
05:47You have your businesses there.
05:49You have your production company there.
05:51That's fine.
05:51And if you have one trip back to Cleveland, it's obviously a big trip.
05:54And it's going to cost people $3,500 just to get into the door.
05:58It's going to be a big day.
05:59You stay out there.
06:00Come to New York.
06:01Then you're coming back a couple of times.
06:03You're with the Knicks.
06:04You're playing against the Cavs.
06:06The Cavs are supposed to be a competitive team.
06:08Like, honestly, how many people think the Cavs are going to go to the NBA Finals next year?
06:12There would be some people who think the Lakers are going to go to the NBA Finals.
06:14I do not think they will.
06:15So you play them twice in a season.
06:17You play them once here in Cleveland.
06:18It's not a big a deal.
06:20And you're not hurting your own fans.
06:21You're playing in the Eastern Conference and hurting your own fan base at the end.
06:24No one in Cleveland will be able to afford the tickets to go see LeBron in his last game.
06:28And WFAN, I hope you guys picked this up.
06:30Boomer and everybody who's talking about whether or not they're going to go to the White House.
06:34The Knicks are fourth in championship odds right now.
06:37So you guys all probably say, oh, we don't even need LeBron.
06:40Yes, you do.
06:41To go back-to-back, to have LeBron James remember the disease.
06:44I'm getting texts over you right now.
06:46Good, because they know I'm right.
06:47The disease of me that normally sets in after a team wins a title, LeBron would not allow that.
06:51But he is somebody who could come in and handle and manage that whole expectation of going back-to-back.
06:59The only people who agree with you are people who don't want him here at all.
07:03That's the only person that would ever agree with you are the guy who called up about the drywall.
07:08That's the only person that's going to agree with you on this issue.
07:11Fine.
07:112-1-6-4-7-4-0-0-92.
07:13I think you're stupid.
07:14Yeah, I do get a little bit upset about what you said.
07:16I'm not as mad as I've ever been with you, but I think it's a pretty damn dumb thing of
07:21what you just told me.
07:22I think it'd be silly for his legacy.
07:24After what he said about the New York Knicks organization, after what he has said about James Dolan and even
07:32Phil Jackson, who's no longer even there, yes, it would be asinine.
07:36Underline the term asinine.
07:37Who needs a fifth championship?
07:39Asinine.
07:40That'd be pretty cool for LeBron.
07:41Asinine.
07:42A good chart?
07:43Are you making like a LeBron to New York chart?
07:46No, that's a good idea.
07:48Several people disagree with you.
07:49I hate this idea.
07:49I really, really, really do.
07:52It's so bad.
07:54It is so bad.
07:55Like, I'm not going to say...
07:56It'd be his best chance to win his fifth championship.
07:58If he goes back to...
08:00How can you say that?
08:02Because they're the defending champions and then...
08:04Just because they're the defending champs doesn't mean a damn bit of difference.
08:07There's been eight different ones.
08:08Yeah, now they have the potential to lose Mitchell Robinson.
08:10We'll see...
08:12Landry Schammett was...
08:13I mean, you want to talk about all-time luck.
08:15He came in, played like Klay Thompson on the veteran minimum.
08:19He's not doing that again.
08:20Like, in my scenario, LeBron would be signing with them as the veteran minimum.
08:26And would help them go back to back.
08:27So, LeBron is going to go to James Dolan's team.
08:31Yeah, I don't know why that matters to you so much.
08:32A man, he has been open...
08:34Think about what you had said after he wrote the letter.
08:36So, LeBron's going to come back to Dan, Gilbert, Comic-San, Sarah's team.
08:41They thought that was irreconcilable.
08:43For the league minimum?
08:44For the veteran minimum?
08:45At this stage, yeah.
08:46For the veteran minimum.
08:47Yeah.
08:47Okay, no, no, no, no, no, no.
08:48That winning...
08:49He's still a proud, egotistical man.
08:52Winning a fifth championship would make up...
08:53That money would be made up in droves.
08:55No, no, no.
08:56It would.
08:57You're right about that.
08:58But it doesn't matter.
08:58He wants the very best.
09:00Because you can make up the money or you can just get all the money.
09:03Get all the money.
09:04It makes zero sense.
09:06I mean, you do make a couple of points that are just still bad points about why he would
09:11go to the New York Knicks.
09:12It's just asinine to me.
09:14It really is.
09:16Everything he's done, everything he's worked for, the whole legacy, it's not out the window.
09:20It's not like I'd be bagging on him 20 years from now over it for crying out loud.
09:24It's not what he does.
09:25He goes places.
09:27They win championships.
09:28He's the leader for them winning championships.
09:31That's how this goes.
09:32If he goes to New York, he's Durant, he's Kyrie, he's all the guys that we say he's above.
09:40Really.
09:41He's all those guys that we just say he's better than.
09:45That we still hold him in a higher regard.
09:46That people hate him for.
09:48That he goes to team, he went to Miami.
09:52Now, I understand that Dwayne Wade is the heart and soul of that team at that time.
09:56But he's the reason.
09:59Cleveland.
10:00He's the reason and he's the heart and soul of the team.
10:03Los Angeles.
10:04He's the reason and he's the heart and soul of the team.
10:07This is just, no.
10:08This is a sad way to end a career if he were to go to the New York Knicks.
10:13To win a championship would be a sad way for LeBron to end his career.
10:16Are you hearing yourself?
10:17For the veteran minimum?
10:18Wait, say that now.
10:19For the veteran minimum?
10:20You should have thought about that again before you said it out loud.
10:22For the veteran minimum?
10:24No, I'm going to do what everybody's doing.
10:26I'm going to double down on my stupidity.
10:27All right?
10:28It's not the saddest way.
10:30All right?
10:30I'll take that back for a second, okay?
10:33Fine.
10:35But, I don't know.
10:36You're the one who wants to sit there and talk about asterisks.
10:38Are you not going to put an asterisk next to that one?
10:40Oh, I mean, I've already put plenty of asterisks.
10:42See, this is the slipperiest of wizard moves here.
10:45This is how I've known you for so long.
10:47If he goes to New York, you'll do champion's pose.
10:49If he wins a championship, there will be another fat asterisk next to it.
10:53Because then you go, ah, he just chased it.
10:54And he rode Jalen Brunson's coattails.
10:58You're not even a hater, but you'll put an asterisk next to it.
11:00You did it with the Lakers.
11:01His haters have already put a number of asterisks by his titles.
11:05And you're one of the people that argue these things.
11:07He was assembling a super team in an era when you could get away with it.
11:11Now, of course, they've legislated against it.
11:13Just focus on the Cavs and how they get LeBron.
11:15I wish it were the Cavs.
11:17That's the thing.
11:17And Mark Spears is saying there's no chance.
11:22He's saying no.
11:23He says it looks like it's almost a foregone conclusion that it's going to be the Lakers.
11:27I think it's a huge miss for him for how many dates out of the year to be on the
11:33West Coast.
11:34Do people realize how many fewer people live in that time zone than the Eastern time zone?
11:41100% correct.
11:41It's amazing.
11:42No LeBron.
11:44No Giannis.
11:44And I have people getting in my mentions yesterday saying that they're tired of the Cavs' mediocrity.
11:49And I'm going, you're an Eastern Conference Finals team.
11:51What do we mean about mediocrity?
11:52The Final Four is not mediocre.
11:54That is a quote.
11:54I swear to God, you can look.
11:56You can say it was a mediocre performance if you were to compare them to all the teams that have
12:01been to the Eastern Conference or Western Conference Finals over the years.
12:03I would agree they lost more games than they won.
12:05But when you're one of the last four teams standing, if you're calling that mediocre, then you're never going to
12:11be happy as a fan because 99% of your teams will not reach the Final Four.
12:16Expectations and then hitting the ceiling with our head is what we're doing.
12:20Expectations while hitting the ceiling with our head has made us say some crazy things about this organization over these
12:25past couple of years.
12:26I know we got to go, but do you find it odd how quiet the Cavs' rumors have been given
12:32the owner came out immediately after they were eliminated and said, we are not close to a championship and we
12:39are going to get there?
12:40Does that sound like an owner who's going to sign off on running it back?
12:44Well, I'm not just making a trade just to make a trade.
12:47What are you going to trade?
12:48I'm asking, though.
12:49Do you think that sounds like an owner who was told by the GM we're going to run it back?
12:54No.
12:54That's not to me.
12:55What are they cooking?
12:58Can't make them sign with you.
12:59Oh, hey, look.
13:01If they're out of the equation, what's next?
13:04I don't think.
13:04You want them to do something so bad.
13:06You're trying to will it.
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