00:00A bit happening in the world of footy, the lot's going on, and I'll tell you what,
00:03we found ourselves with another tribunal case that's going to cause a lot of angst
00:07amongst the fraternity, Steve-O.
00:09You think that North, well, they surely challenged this one, won't they, Harv?
00:13Paul Curtis, a tackle on Hamish Davies you're talking about in the North West Coast game,
00:17where Paul Curtis has been given by the MRO already a three-week suspension
00:21that I think they have to challenge.
00:24Yeah, I mean, I read some of the headlines and the immediate reaction to this,
00:27and then I went to the replay and I thought, what's all the fuss about?
00:30It was a fair tackle.
00:31He showed some care, I think, and sort of rolled the opponent.
00:35In the end, the landing was a little bit unfortunate.
00:38That's all I'd say.
00:38It's another footy accident hub.
00:40It's two weeks in a row we've had footy accidents.
00:42Accidents happen in footy.
00:43We need to move on.
00:44So the issue now is that it's either three weeks or nothing.
00:48So there's no middle ground.
00:49But that's okay.
00:50I'm okay with that.
00:50Well, it shouldn't be three in the first place.
00:52Well, as it's graded, it's three weeks.
00:55So the system has a great policy, and Michael Christian's done that
00:59as part of the MRO process.
01:00And that's okay.
01:02Now we get the chance to talk about that and take it to the tribunal,
01:05if they challenge, which I think they will,
01:06and explain exactly what's happened from their perspective,
01:09like Billy Frampton did last week in the Brodie Majcek situation,
01:12which was incredibly unfortunate.
01:14And we found ourselves with another one on this occasion.
01:17Paul Curtis has done nothing wrong in this tackle.
01:19He's locked him up absolutely.
01:20The ball spills out, and then they fall to the ground.
01:23There was no drive.
01:24There was no secondary motion.
01:25There was no force executed.
01:26I agree with you.
01:27I reckon he almost protected him on the way down as well.
01:30Unfortunately, he fell awkwardly and landed on his head
01:32and was ruled out of the game with a concussion.
01:35We don't always have to have a villain in these scenarios.
01:38We don't always have to be looking for blood as supporters
01:41because someone got hurt.
01:42Someone is going to get hurt in the inherent nature of AFL footy at times.
01:46And we've just seen some really unfortunate accidents last week,
01:49and of course, in this scenario as well.
01:50There's no reason, in my view, why Paul Curtis should be serving a suspension
01:54for that situation.
01:55Not at all.
01:56And again, it's about the end result, not the action.
01:58We were supposed to move back towards the action a little bit half, weren't we?
02:01But there's no concussion there.
02:03We're not even thinking twice about it.
02:04If he bounces up, it's play on and no free kick.
02:07So I just think it's extraordinary that we've got to this stage.
02:10But again, Chris O's put it up, as he does as the MRO.
02:14It'll go to the tribunal.
02:16And I don't think Chris O gets offended.
02:17He just has to tick the boxes.
02:18But a lot of the times now, these things are getting overturned,
02:22and we're having tribunal cases.
02:24So you sort of have to question where we're at with the MRO, to be honest,
02:27the whole lot, so many layers.
02:29When it was introduced, it was to not have tribunal cases.
02:32Now everybody's having a ping at it, huh?
02:34Yeah, but when it was introduced, the concussion conversation
02:36wasn't anywhere near as ferocious and as heated as it is now
02:40on the back of the research that's been done the last couple of years
02:42and what we now know about the impacts, long-term impacts of concussions.
02:46So I can see why the MRO and the AFL do what they're doing with adjudicating these scenarios.
02:51But there still has to be a level of transparency,
02:55but also fairness into the understanding that the game is inherently dangerous at times.
02:59And sometimes there will be accidents, and no one's at fault for that.
03:02That's just the system.
03:03Yeah, it's a dangerous game for you.
03:05Also dangerous selling games, obviously, to Perth.
03:07They got out of it north, didn't they?
03:09They dodged a lot of money.
03:10I was thinking about you.
03:11I was thinking about you during this game.
03:12I had the finger on the X button ready to go, because if they're 0-2,
03:15that's a disaster, against West Coast, who are not a very good team.
03:19And they still couldn't get it done.
03:21Well, they're better than they were.
03:21Well, they're better than they were, but north, with what they had available,
03:24should have won that a bit easier.
03:25Well, maybe selling the game last week won them the game this week
03:28because they were able to sit there all week, train in the conditions,
03:31acclimatise the time delay and the time lag, of course, three hours time change.
03:35So maybe, Steve-O, selling the game,
03:37which they weren't going to win against Fremantle anyway,
03:40considering they're the best team in footy at the moment,
03:42maybe selling that game has given them the win.
03:44Yeah, it's a bit of sugar half I meant.
03:46If it was here, if it was at Marble, they win by eight goals
03:49because West Coast, to be honest, aren't much chop.
03:51And what about the Waterman miss?
03:53Now, I spoke about this on the outer wing.
03:56Waterman's kicking for West Coast.
03:58He's costing them games.
03:59Such a skilled player normally.
04:01This year, the ball drops no good.
04:03No confidence.
04:04He had a shot there in the last minute.
04:05Set shot, what was it, 35 out straight in front.
04:07I reckon for a small moment there, he was thinking,
04:11will I go around the body?
04:12He was.
04:13It's 100% he was.
04:14And I'm thinking, that's his preferred mode at the moment.
04:18He was maybe worried that, what if I go around the body
04:20and the siren goes?
04:22Yeah.
04:22I'm on the arc and the siren goes.
04:24So he pulled back on that and that was a bad sign.
04:27I actually sat there and said, I think he's going to miss this.
04:29You could just tell.
04:30And then poked at it and whacked it into the right post.
04:34That's painful, Huff.
04:35Yeah, that's a bad result and cost them the game in the end.
04:38Obviously, there's lots of factors that cost them the game,
04:40but that was the moment late in the game that they had the chance
04:42to win it.
04:43And he's got the ips.
04:44He's got the ips.
04:45But we've seen this across the competition.
04:46We saw Patrick Cripps in that game against Geelong two weeks ago
04:49go around the corner from 12 metres out.
04:51Cooper Sharman did it in the game at Marvel Stadium yesterday
04:54against the Giants for the Saints late in the game
04:57because he missed one early in the game from 20 metres out
04:59directly in front.
04:59Late in the game, he's 12 metres out.
05:01He rushed it, didn't he?
05:01He rushed it and plays on and kicks it around the corner and plays on.
05:04Barry did it too for Port.
05:05Players are getting very jumpy in front of goal for Seth Jotts at the moment.
05:08Barry did it for Port late in that game.
05:10That was just terrible.
05:11I mean, you go back.
05:12I forget who was commentating.
05:13Go back and do what you've done since you're an eight-year-old.
05:17Straighten up and kick it straight through the high diddle diddle.
05:20Barry had a stinker and then kicked to the pocket
05:22where he should have gone to the top of the square.
05:24Missed another one at halftime.
05:25I know he's a young player, but I think that's time to go back
05:28for the sand full sun because that was horrid to go around the corner.
05:32It's cost him another game.
05:33And Waterman, I think, should go around the corner, though,
05:35because that's the only way at the moment he can kick straight up.
05:37Hang on a second.
05:38You're Arthur and Martha.
05:39You don't know who you are.
05:39You're kicking straight.
05:40You're going around the corner.
05:41Well, I've got mixed messaging there, I've got to say.
05:43But I was frustrated at Barry.
05:45That was terrible.
05:46I mean, really bad stuff for a guy I've watched in junior foot.
05:49He's got a lot of skill, a country boy.
05:51But, gee, that wasn't good.
05:53And then what about Talaaki, the skipper of North?
05:56Yes.
05:56Actually felt sorry.
05:57Four goals, did a good job.
05:58Big Nick.
05:59Then he felt sorry for Waterman.
06:00In the post-match interview on the ground, you think,
06:02wow, this is great.
06:04This is grit.
06:05You know, come on the Kangas.
06:06Come on the Shinboners.
06:07All he could do was talk about how bad he felt for Waterman.
06:10Oh, he's a good player.
06:10I'm so sad he missed and I feel for it.
06:13In your day, half of that wouldn't happen.
06:15And I was sitting there thinking, what would Hodgie have said?
06:17What would Luke Hodges have said?
06:19And I'm telling you, he's not saying that.
06:21No, well, the world's a bit different these days.
06:22Grumpy old men like you and me, we come from a different era
06:25where it was kill or be killed.
06:26These blokes don't seem to have that sort of mentality,
06:29particularly post-game, as opposed to what we used to grow up with, Steve.
06:32So no real surprise there, but the Kangas get a win
06:34and I reckon they did it because they sold the game.
06:36And can I mention Job Shanahan again?
06:38Oh, I am, man.
06:39Yeah, man.
06:40He's a six-point zone.
06:41He's huge hands.
06:42He takes clean contested grabs, kicking again, a bit of an issue,
06:46probably a little bit indecisive on a couple,
06:48but he kicked a good banana.
06:49And I talked about watching Berry a couple of years ago
06:52doing some scouting for an AFL club, which I won't name half.
06:56But I looked at Shanahan that year and thought,
06:59gee, this guy is something special.
07:00And I weighed him up against Harry Armstrong and John T. Fall.
07:03I had him clearly ahead of those two.
07:06They're both now at Richmond.
07:06Why didn't your team pick him up?
07:08Well, they didn't have a pick in that area.
07:09Didn't they like your advice?
07:11They had another tool and somebody else they were taking.
07:13Another tool I rated even higher than Shanahan.
07:15But Shanahan slipped right through.
07:17Armstrong and Fall, I had a look at Armstrong, looks okay.
07:22Bit of a marked kick player.
07:23Fall hasn't got the size that this guy's got.
07:27So this is an absolute bargain.
07:28And I'm just saying Richmond, with that plethora of picks
07:31that they had early, should have taken Jobe Shanahan.
07:34Well, plenty overlooked him, but he's looking like a pretty solid player,
07:37Jobe Shanahan.
07:38I like him.
07:39And he's six points on Superstar on the Rise here at Zero Hanger HQ.
07:44That's what he is.
