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On The Midday Show, Andy and Randy are joined by 92.9 The Game Braves analyst Grant McAuley to discuss Atlanta's pitching depth. With rotation options already on the roster and additional arms working their way back, Grant explains why the Braves may be better positioned to handle pitching challenges than many fans realize.
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00:00We walk away from like, God, that sucked, and a lot of stuff that happened sucked.
00:04Let's start with the Acuna hamstring.
00:06Do we know anything more than we knew last night?
00:08What are kind of your thoughts on that?
00:10No, I haven't heard anything new, but I will tell you, and I tweeted this yesterday too,
00:14which is probably my first mistake is sharing thoughts with strangers online,
00:17but I didn't feel great when it happened because of the way he was kind of, I don't know,
00:23kind of like dragging his leg along.
00:26At first, I was like, is this a hamstring?
00:28Is this something where, but like, he left under his own power.
00:31Nobody had to help him.
00:32He wasn't down.
00:33There was no examination on the field.
00:35So for that part, I guess you just kind of had to wait and see because lower leg injuries,
00:40that kind of stuff has been something he's dealt with a lot.
00:43Unfortunately, we've already seen it this year, but it does sound like maybe a re-aggravation
00:46of the hamstring.
00:48Walt Weiss did say after the game, as I know you guys have already talked about,
00:51it wasn't, they don't believe as severe as last time.
00:54He's not been placed on the injured list yet.
00:56Day to day, we'll wait and see, but it doesn't make you feel great to be going through this
01:02again with Ronald Acuna Jr., especially at a time when it felt like maybe he's starting
01:07to turn it on.
01:07But I mean, this was an injury that occurred and the type of play that I expect to get
01:12from Ronald Acuna Jr.
01:14Hit a ball deep to third base, you got to make a play, a player's got to make a long
01:18throw
01:18and beat out one of the quicker guys on the field.
01:20Yeah, I mean, this is just the stuff that happened.
01:23So I don't know if there's a preventative for it.
01:25To make a long story short, it's frustrating and it was one of the many pieces that made
01:28yesterday's game, as I said, an annoying loss.
01:32And there haven't been many of them, but man, if you swim around in my mentions from last
01:35night, you would think that the Braves are 25 and 42 this year.
01:40Hey, G-Mac, Andy read the stat that you had yesterday with Grant Holmes on it, as far
01:46as innings and runs and average and almost everything.
01:48How do you explain that?
01:49One, really good.
01:51Two, meh.
01:52And then the third one, pretty good.
01:54Well, it's kind of weird because I would guess that I'll start with the last one.
01:59Like, why is the third one a little bit better than the second one?
02:01Well, it would clearly say to me that he's kind of rolling that night and maybe things are
02:06going well.
02:06He's getting that third time through.
02:08He seems to have some trouble in that third or fourth inning, especially the fourth inning.
02:12I think it's a real problem inning for him because the first time through, his strikeout
02:16rate is about 25%.
02:18His walk rate is a manageable 9%.
02:20And guys are not squaring him up.
02:23The second time through, those hitters are making adjustments and they're seeing him better.
02:26The first time through, two home runs and 117 plate appearances.
02:29The second time through, 10 home runs and 115 plate appearances.
02:34That's not the rate you want.
02:35So, that kind of screams to me that hitters are making adjustments to Grant Holmes.
02:40And even though he has an elite slider, that's not debatable.
02:42He does.
02:43He just doesn't have enough to keep hitters off of that.
02:46The walks start to elevate just a little bit.
02:48So, free base runners can also invite some more problems.
02:51And he's just pitching under more stress.
02:52So, what's the solution to that?
02:55I believe as the rotation starts to get healthier and fill out more, you could probably see Grant
03:00Holmes help himself and the club out immensely by being a guy that can come in and miss bats
03:06and be utilized in that sixth, seventh inning.
03:08And if you need a big strikeout or somebody to go seven or eight or nine outs, maybe you
03:13could count on Grant Holmes for that kind of thing.
03:15And that's a valuable arm on the staff.
03:17And I feel like right now we don't really have that arm.
03:20Is that something that, you know, as we kind of connect the dots of the moves that they
03:24made today with J.R.
03:25Ritchie coming back and Carlos Carrasco being DFA'd, could be imminent?
03:28Or is that something that they need to wait to get, whether it's Waldrop or a move that
03:33they might make?
03:34Is that something that would happen a little bit later?
03:36It could be, Ritchie.
03:37But it also could be, as you pointed out, Hurston Waldrop, whose rehab assignment has now been
03:41moved up to AA.
03:42He's going to start tomorrow.
03:43It'll be his third outing.
03:44He's still got about three weeks left to ramp up, and the Braves could decide that at the
03:48end of that 30-day rehab assignment, we want to go ahead and option him down to Gwinnett
03:53and let him continue to start, because it would benefit him more than throwing him into the
03:56big leagues without enough innings to where you feel like he's really comfortable and
04:00can help the club.
04:01All of that said about Hurston Waldrop, I look at J.R.
04:04Ritchie as a guy that the Braves clearly believe in, and I think that he just kind of got
04:07squeezed out his last time.
04:09I mean, it wasn't just because, A, he had a bad start against Miami.
04:11There were some plays that weren't made behind him.
04:13Yes, he walked some guys here and there, but there's a lot of belief in this kid as a
04:17starter, and for good reason.
04:19So you're probably not going to have Grant Holmes available to you for at least two or
04:23three days because of his workload from yesterday.
04:25I think Ritchie right now is kind of your insurance policy.
04:28If somebody gets knocked out of the box early, somebody's got to throw, you know, three innings
04:32or thereabouts, maybe more.
04:34Ritchie would probably be that guy at this point.
04:36But he could also be pushed into a starting role, and you could slide Martin Perez into
04:40the multi-inning insurance policy type role, and then kind of figure things out as you
04:46go along and transition Grant Holmes into the bullpen by having a few moving parts, a few
04:50different dominoes that could fall favorably for the Braves, as the case may be.
04:55Any word on how Drake Baldwin's doing, Grant?
04:58Well, good news for Drake Baldwin is that he was cleared to go do his baseball activities in
05:02Florida, so live batting practice, I think Thursday, Friday is the plan for that.
05:07If all of that goes well and he doesn't have any ill effects from the oblique injury,
05:11he could go join Gwinnett, who I believe are going to be on the road over in Jacksonville,
05:15so not too far away from the Florida complex for him, Saturday, Sunday.
05:19And Walt Weiss told us last homestand that if everything trends in the right direction,
05:24the homestand that begins on the 16th of this month against the San Francisco Giants,
05:28that's kind of what they had circled for Drake Baldwin's return to the Atlanta Braves.
05:32Um, why no, why no Dylan Lee last night in the 7th?
05:35I know that they normally go 7-8-9 with those three guys, but they didn't use Dylan last
05:40night.
05:41Yeah, I know it's a good question, and I think that in general there was some question about
05:45a lot of coming off an off day, why were some other guys not available?
05:49Why is Carlos Carrasco pitching in leverage?
05:51And I think with Dylan Lee, they really just wanted to give him what they kind of call the
05:56hard reset.
05:57He is leading the club in appearances, he's leading the National League in appearances.
06:00I think they wanted to give him like three days just to kind of sort it all out.
06:05I mean, you can't ride these guys till the brakes fall off, and all of a sudden Dylan
06:08Lee is broken in August and has been overworked and isn't effective anymore.
06:12And even if he's not on the injured list, you've just ridden him too hard.
06:15And that's something I think Walt is trying to be mindful of.
06:18On the flip side, or kind of the tightrope walk that he's been doing is, I do want to
06:24go after some of these winnable games.
06:25And the Braves have done this way more times than not.
06:28They're on pace for 109 wins this year.
06:31So let's kind of look at where we're at in terms of where the team is trending and just
06:35think about the big picture view.
06:37Bullpen is the one place that you can't hide from it.
06:40You're going to have to manage with some guys unavailable some days.
06:43And yesterday was one of those days.
06:45Then we found out today as they bring James Kirinchak up from AAA Gwinnett, the former
06:50Indians, or excuse me, Guardians closer, that Tyler Kinley is now on the injured list with
06:55elbow inflammation.
06:56So that's another knock.
06:57And that's another thing that I look at and say, all right, if you got no Tyler Kinley,
06:59but you got a Grant Holmes who's a good swing and miss pitcher, maybe he does make more
07:03sense in the bullpen.
07:04So there are a lot of moving parts right now, I feel like, in this bullpen mix.
07:07But I am intrigued to see if Kirinchak, without the use of the, I'll say, sticky stuff
07:13that Major League Baseball banned a few years ago, is he going to be the same kind of strikeout
07:17pitcher he was in Cleveland in, what, 0-1, 0-2, or excuse me, 21-22, not 20 years ago.
07:24How old is this guy?
07:26Late 20s.
07:27So yeah.
07:27Yeah.
07:28If he's not Jimmy Key, he's not 45.
07:30Do you see a, if Ronald is going to miss time, you think that Michael in the leadoff,
07:34putting Ozzie to Olsen and then whoever behind him is how they're going to go moving forward
07:39to Ronald gets back?
07:41Um, well, that's, that's kind of an interesting question because if you're, you know, if,
07:46if Ronald is day to day, doesn't go on the injured list and hopefully he doesn't have
07:49to, we don't have to worry about this.
07:50But if you got Drake Baldwin back, I think Baldwin could also get some leadoff at that
07:54depending on how long Ronald's out, but you've got options to your point, Randy, you could
07:58go with Ozzie, you could go with Michael.
08:00And honestly, just looking at it as it stands right now, it wouldn't hurt my feelings to see
08:05Michael Harris be the guy who's getting the most played appearances on the team because
08:07he's been as hot as anybody in EA scalding.
08:11So why not?
08:13Um, I mean, we, we've talked about this now for a couple of weeks, but they're continuing
08:16to handle it like this.
08:17I understand why, uh, with, with riding the hot hand at shortstop, how do you, how do
08:23you think that they go about trying to get, uh, Kim some more at bats so he can try to
08:27work his way out of the slump that he started his season in?
08:31I think that they're just going to have to do some mix and match here.
08:35And eventually I do feel like, and I've said this before, and I still believe this, it
08:40hasn't changed because he's been a little bit less active in the last couple of weeks.
08:44This is a valuable player and his missing spring training, going down, rehabbing, spending
08:5010, 12 days in the minor leagues.
08:51It's not a substitute for ramping your season up the normal way to the point that I've seen
08:56some other people make.
08:57He's just now kind of gotten the amount of at bats you would get in spring training.
09:01So now the question is, is he up to speed?
09:03Can they get the swing right?
09:04Can they get him comfortable and confident at the plate?
09:06Cause that confidence can go a long way too.
09:08He may not be doing anything mechanically wrong, but you're going to have to get the, the
09:12opportunity.
09:13So you're also trying to win games and Jorge Mateo helped you do that.
09:16Mauricio Dubon has certainly helped you do that.
09:18So you've got options and this is something that the Braves, I feel like are not really
09:22used to when it came to shortstop, it was ride whoever we've got.
09:26And really there's no secondary options.
09:28So as far as problems you can have, this is one that the Braves are better set up for
09:32this year than at any time in recent memory to try to get a guy back on track and get
09:37him through what's been a really challenging start to the season for Hassan Kipp.
09:41And if we do miss, if Ronald is missing time, that's another way where you can put Dubon
09:44somewhere out there because he's a dad, he's a, he's just a baseball playing Jesse
09:48as a, as Mark Schleyer, I'd like to say.
09:50He plays everywhere.
09:51Grant.
09:51Yeah, no, he does it all.
09:52Yeah.
09:53Great stuff.
09:53Pretty sensitive GMAC.
09:55Thanks, guys.
09:55Grant McCauley there, 92.9 The Game, Braves Insider, host of From the Diamond every Wednesday
09:59at 120.
10:00A lot of good stuff in there.
10:01I did not realize, it makes sense when you think about it, because they've done a really
10:04good job of getting to that post-starter three-inning stretch in the game and using Lee
10:11and, and, and, you know, and those guys.
10:13I didn't realize, I didn't realize it only was they, I did not realize that he's been
10:17using as much as he has been.
10:18I didn't realize he had led baseball appearances at this point.
10:21Did I know that?
10:21Well, that makes sense.
10:22Yes.
10:23If it's, you know, it sucks to lose a game the way that you did last night.
10:26Yes.
10:27Because you usually, Andy, when that happens, when they're in the game like that, you
10:30anticipate those three.
10:31Yeah.
10:32And, and, and, and had they gone Lee, uh, Suarez Iglesias last night, they probably would have
10:36won the game.
10:36Right.
10:37But I don't know over time, if that adds up to Dylan Lee, not being as effective or
10:41available in September, October, you know, you gotta, you gotta play the long game.
10:45And there's also no guarantee that it'll work like that.
10:47But a three day reset is obviously what their medical team says is what is better for a guy
10:52at a situation like this.
10:53And, um, so that's what they did.
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