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The head coaching position at the Atlanta Falcons has been a revolving door for much of the past few decades. What makes certain coached successful and other not? Why do some organizations have more success in finding the coach that's right for them. Steak and Sandra dicsuss.
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00:00Hey, talking about coaches, and here's what I'll say.
00:03Kirby Smart's the most brilliant hire that's ever happened in Atlanta's sports history.
00:08Maybe Bobby Cox, but Kirby's got more championships than Bobby Cox,
00:12and I argue that Kirby's had more success than Bobby Cox on some level,
00:16although Bobby Cox obviously is in the Hall of Fame and part of that run with Sherholtz and that team
00:20and did a phenomenal job.
00:21But, I mean, part of our job is to give opinion, and Kirby Smart and what he's done in 11
00:25years at Georgia
00:27is unprecedented. Two national titles, should have had a third year or two against Alabama.
00:32Unfortunately, that didn't work out.
00:33But regardless of all that, it's just not easy to win, and I don't believe that owners are stupid,
00:40and I don't believe the process of hiring coaches is inane.
00:44Like, I don't believe it.
00:45I believe that what fans don't remember is in the national football league,
00:48there's 31 other billionaires, multi-billionaires, that have hired Harvard MBAs
00:54and hired lifelong professional sports gurus who have been in the business,
01:00and they're all trying to do exactly what you're trying to do,
01:03which is win football games, have coaches keep their jobs, compete at the highest level.
01:08It's hard.
01:09And I don't know, like I say, when guys get hired,
01:14I have no idea if Kevin Stefanski is the absolute football mind that this town needed
01:21at the right time in his discipline and his history and his dad being Ed Stefanski,
01:27who is a former GM in the NBA, a Philly basketball legend,
01:34and his experience in Cleveland, all of that makes him the perfect tire.
01:37I have no friggin' idea.
01:39Just like when Arthur Smith rolled in here, or Mike Smith rolled in here,
01:43or June Jones rolled in here, or Dan Reeves rolled in here,
01:46or Jim Moore rolled in here, or Raheem Morris rolled in here, or any of them.
01:51I have no idea from the press conference, from my interviews with them,
01:55I'm not smart enough for that, right?
01:58I was good at listening to a guy and figuring out if he could be good on the radio
02:02and whether or not he should be on our old radio station when I was the boss there,
02:05or coming up with good promotions to put radio station talent and our audience together
02:11and probably pretty good at selling in that space.
02:13And I'm talking about where my 10,000 hours have been, right?
02:16My 10,000 hours is in football or trying to figure that out.
02:20So knee-jerk reactions just don't make any sense.
02:24Did I think Kirby was the perfect tire?
02:26Of course, he was the friggin' defensive coordinator for multiple national championship teams.
02:32He went to Georgia, and he was under Nick Saban's tutelage.
02:36It looked on paper like the greatest tire ever.
02:38And guess what?
02:39It was, right?
02:42But I just gave you, Sandra, since I've been to Atlanta, right?
02:47Oh, boy.
02:47Since I've been to Atlanta.
02:49No, just Jerry Glanville I wasn't here for.
02:52I was here for June Jones, knew him well.
02:54I don't think anybody would say that was a great hire.
02:57He was coming out of that Mouse Davis offense run and shoot type thing, whatever.
03:02After that, I think Dan Rees provided everything you could ask for in a head coach.
03:06Oh, yeah.
03:07Level of stability and professionalism and everything that you don't know we've ever had here.
03:11Then it was Jim Mora.
03:12He gets fired.
03:14Dan Rees, he got fired.
03:15June Jones, he got fired.
03:17Mike Smith.
03:19Falcons had never had back-to-back winning seasons.
03:21Falcons were not any factor whatsoever.
03:24Matt Ryan arrives in town the same time as Mike Smith and the same time as Thomas Dimitrov.
03:29It was a great run, particularly for Thomas because he stuck around after for Dan Quinn.
03:37So Dimitrov was here for multiple NFC Championship games.
03:41Dimitrov was here for a Super Bowl.
03:43Dimitrov was here for the Matt Ryan era way longer than Smitty, right?
03:47I remember being at that press conference.
03:48Why'd you fire the coach but not fire the GM, right?
03:51Well, Dimitrov's sitting there.
03:53But he got fired.
03:55And Dan Quinn, who brought us to a Super Bowl and they won a playoff game the next year, he
03:59got fired.
04:00And then Arthur Smith came in here, not winning any press conferences, but solid-ish, and he got fired.
04:08And Raheem Morris got fired in two years.
04:10So does that mean Arthur has not to pick coaches?
04:14That's just the profession.
04:16I don't know what's a great hire for minute one.
04:19I think we're looking back there.
04:20I think we could agree.
04:22Ree, you tell me Dan Reeves was the perfect hire at the perfect time for Arthur Blaine.
04:26And Mike Smith was, too.
04:27He was the perfect hire at the perfect time when you put that in.
04:31Dan Quinn then fell on deaf ears.
04:33It all happens to transition.
04:35There's a reason that, on average, nine coaches are turned over in the NFL every year.
04:41This year it was 10, and the Falcons were one of them yet again.
04:4510 is tied for the most ever in the NFL.
04:48So to figure it out that you got it wrong as quick as they did, they were not sticking
04:53around with Raheem and company anymore.
04:56He did too many warning signs.
05:00Too much.
05:01You know, two years is really short for any head coach.
05:06But when you were four and nine last year, it was over.
05:10When you had players revolting and your wide receiver room blow up and you fire your coach
05:16early on.
05:18And I don't know.
05:19It just didn't seem buttoned up and they weren't willing to give him any longer.
05:22Yeah.
05:22And now the change comes.
05:24And we knew behind the scenes, especially Stake, they wanted Stefanski from the jump.
05:29Stefanski was their guy.
05:30And then I couldn't help, and I don't know if you feel this way, Stake, we're watching
05:34quarterbacks.
05:34So you're in Cleveland Browns' room because of Flacco as one of the characters in the show.
05:39And there's Stefanski.
05:41And they're picking all those quarterbacks on the night of the draft.
05:44Shadour and all the drama.
05:46And I thought, oh God, I hope they got it right.
05:49Because we don't know yet.
05:50Well, I'll say this.
05:51He's 46 and 58, Stefanski, overall in his head coaching career.
05:56So he didn't come in here with this massive winning.
05:58Yeah, why would he be winning with those quarterbacks in that roster?
06:02Like, I don't know.
06:04Bill Belichick's got, what, nine Super Bowls and he had a losing record in Cleveland.
06:09Guess what?
06:10You got the greatest player of all time as your quarterback.
06:14Do you think that helped?
06:16Do you think that helped Mike Smith and Dan Quinn that Matt Ryan was their quarterback?
06:19Do you think Arthur Smith would have lasted longer if the first day he got here, Matt Ryan
06:24was in his prime?
06:25Arthur Smith got Desmond Ritter and Marcus Mariota and I don't know what year.
06:32And Matt Ryan, maybe his last year, right?
06:34And Raheem got Kirk Cousins and Michael Penix, right?
06:39And Kirk Cousins wasn't ready to go.
06:40I grabbed a couple of teams, right?
06:43Miami Dolphins after Don Shula.
06:46And I don't think any of these guys are dumb.
06:48I'm just telling you, this is their group.
06:51Jimmy Johnson, Dave Wanstead, Nick Saban, Cam Cameron, Tony Sperano, Joe Philbin, Dan Campbell
07:02as an interim coach.
07:03He didn't give them the job.
07:05Adam Gase, Brian Flores, Mike McDaniel, right?
07:10That's their group over the last 50 years.
07:13I mean, are they dummies in Miami?
07:18I don't know.
07:18There's some very uncompelling hires.
07:20You know who you skipped over with the Falcons was Bobby Petrino.
07:23Oh, right.
07:23Yeah.
07:24Bobby Petrino.
07:26Yeah.
07:26Now that case.
07:27And let me just pivot to what's going on.
07:29And we had a conversation off the record yesterday with somebody who's getting calls from these
07:34agencies that are literally their job is to go find me a head coach.
07:39Do all the vetting.
07:40Do all the interviews.
07:41They charge millions and millions of dollars and they do have dogs in fights because they
07:46are tied to all this agents, these agents and Sexton and this one's a, so I go back
07:51to the Bobby Petrino of, of the kind of guy he is to go and even speak to him.
07:56And he's this offensive genius in this quarterback whisper.
07:59I get it.
08:00But for him to have won the room, I can't imagine what he did that day of, of thinking
08:06this is going to be our NFL head coach.
08:08Yeah.
08:09Bobby Petrino.
08:10I think Rich McKay was replaced by Thomas Dimitrov because of that hire.
08:14I mean, that hire and, and there's no way that you couldn't have figured out that that
08:20guy isn't good with people.
08:21You know, when you have a guy that won't speak to his players, Algie Crump has told us the
08:25story.
08:26Summertime stops by the office, wants to meet his new head coach.
08:29Summertime.
08:30So one of your top five players.
08:32And Bobby Petrino has his secretary come on and say, he can't meet with you.
08:36Can't talk to you.
08:37When he puts his head down and won't say good morning.
08:39In the hallway, they were told, don't, yeah, he's, he's not going to say good morning.
08:43He's going to have his head down and he won't say hello.
08:44Don't bother talking to him.
08:45Yeah.
08:45But by the way, if he was a great coach, no one cares about that, but he did show himself.
08:50So my point being in hiring, you don't know.
08:53He, Rich McKay and company went all in on a Bobby Petrino hire.
08:57I totally get Raheem.
09:01Raheem is energetic, says all the right things, a politician on some sorts, but that's part
09:08of it.
09:09Won a Super Bowl.
09:09Yeah.
09:10Yeah.
09:11As the defensive coordinator.
09:12He won a Super Bowl.
09:13Yeah.
09:13With, with Sean McVay.
09:15Yeah.
09:16Head coach, was a head coach in Tampa where, you know, he learned his lessons.
09:22He had, had some experience of what that looked and feels like.
09:26When you're in interviews, when you're Raheem, we really want you.
09:30And, and the first thing those guys have to do when they get to this next level is tell
09:34us who your coordinators are going to be.
09:36So for Raheem to come in with two brand new coordinators, I really felt like that room,
09:43you had the power to say, Raheem, we're all in on you, but we need some experience.
09:46You got to get proven coordinators because that was really his downfall.
09:51Yeah.
09:52Jimmy Lake, his buddy.
09:53Who was fired first and then the, the, he had Zach and Zach was a brand new play caller
10:00and everybody's questioning the offense.
10:01No, that's a great point.
10:02So I don't know that it's a great point, but I just always.
10:04But it's a great point because, because like, you know, if you're guilty of anything, it's
10:09not being fooled by Raheem, but it's letting him tell you, because Raheem Morris was the
10:13number one candidate.
10:14I mean, if I had one more, if there wasn't one more coach that said, this guy's ready
10:17to be a coach, you know, head coach, Sean McVay is the number one coach in the national
10:20football league.
10:21He loved Raheem.
10:22He said, this guy's been the best for us.
10:24My point is, it's such an inexact.
10:26I have no idea.
10:27I think it's even more inexact in the, in college, in the college ranks of, because it's so much
10:34more, you know, you can go get the players, but there's a certain pedigree.
10:38Herbie is one of how many?
10:39You could count eight that is that guy and the rest of it, your hope, what does Kurt
10:44Signetti do this year?
10:46Oh, I mean, Kurt Signetti, come on.
10:47He's had two years.
10:49What he's done in two years is more than anybody ever could have imagined in history.
10:53So, yeah, I don't know if you have any thoughts.
10:56404-726-0929.
10:59404-726-0929.
11:01Is there anybody that you thought right away, I can tell what this is, or you were wrong
11:06about it?
11:06Admit you were wrong about somebody because some of these coaches are like, oh, that was
11:09terrible.
11:10That press conference that higher, that guy's never won, he's never coped, blah, blah, blah.
11:14And then you look up, you know, like, damn, that's something.
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