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00:01Sal Capaccio with us now on the West Her Hotline.
00:04Sal, what kind of day have you had?
00:07Busy one, very packed.
00:09This will be our life, gentlemen, pretty much Wednesdays and Thursdays.
00:13I guess not as much Wednesdays and Thursdays this year
00:14because the Bills don't play as many Sundays,
00:16but when they play on Sundays, this will be our life Wednesdays and Thursdays.
00:21Joe Brady having a later practice than what Sean McDermott had today was an example.
00:26He spoke at 145, the team was on the field at 215, they wrapped up at about 4.
00:33I literally just walked into Studio Capaccio in Buffalo, got home, and I'm doing this now.
00:38This is what it's going to be like compared to the last nine years of having practices at 12.30
00:45p.m.
00:45and then you're done by 2.30 and then you have a little time to kind of get everything done.
00:49So it definitely is going to be an adjustment.
00:51Do we need to move the time of our show maybe to like 10, 11?
00:55Maybe, sure, you can do that, yeah.
00:57Catch you before all this, although new time in the corner on the YouTube screen.
01:02New time.
01:03New time.
01:03Yeah, that's exactly right.
01:05Now you added.
01:05But with so many non-Sunday games, I don't know, it's a moving target anyway, right?
01:11It always is with us and with them playing.
01:14But when they have their normal weekly practice schedule,
01:17it's going to look much more like this than it would be under Sean McDermott,
01:22which is to say just later in the day.
01:23Has Brady been asked about this preference?
01:28Because, you know, it makes sense that they're doing it during minicamp
01:31because I'd already heard that it looks like training camp practices are going to be more in the afternoon,
01:36whereas McDermott was always kind of first thing in the morning.
01:40That's not the case?
01:41No.
01:41Training camp is going to be early in the day from what it is.
01:44Oh, okay.
01:44Earlier, even.
01:45I heard wrong.
01:46Wow.
01:46Okay.
01:47I heard wrong then.
01:48All right.
01:49Well, then that sort of torpedoes the question about Brady having a preference for the afternoon versus the morning.
01:54Well, we did not ask him today specifically because we didn't really know, you know, officially.
02:00And it's not official until he comes out.
02:01But my sense is just because they're going to have meetings, sports science, weightlifting.
02:09It's just really – lots of teams do it this way.
02:11The Patriots have later practices.
02:12Because, you know, a lot of times for us in the media, we're just wondering, like, when are we going
02:17to talk to people?
02:18Are we going to get people before practice, after practice?
02:20When do we do that, right?
02:21Right.
02:22I'll tell you, if you work in the TV industry, you're loving this change because you can be down there
02:26and just stay down there and do your five, six o'clock newscast, right?
02:30For me or other people in the print media maybe, you might not like it as much because you want
02:34to get out of there and get your work done.
02:36Right.
02:37You know?
02:37Right.
02:38So it just depends on who you are and what you like.
02:41Like, he has not – and Bulldog, and maybe we'll ask him at this at some point.
02:44I'm sure at training camp it'll come up when they're having earlier practices most likely, which is basically the question
02:50of, like, why – like, what do you think about that?
02:52You've done this this way under Sean McDermott or others.
02:55Why are you doing it the other way?
02:56And my guess is, you know, meetings, weightlifting, sports science, all that stuff.
03:01He won't say, I just want that extra hour of sleep.
03:03He won't say that.
03:04Coaches don't talk like that.
03:06Will he be a – is he a John Gruden set the alarm for 317 in the morning?
03:11So he can be at the office by 4?
03:12Oh, he's already got that reputation.
03:14Like, he's the first – like, I don't think any players are expecting or expected to beat him into the
03:20building.
03:20I think that's right.
03:22Brady's got that rep already.
03:23Do we take that seriously?
03:24Yeah, he's an early guy.
03:25Yeah.
03:26Do we take that seriously?
03:27Does it – in 2026, not to load the question, Sal, but does that impress you?
03:33No, it doesn't impress me from a standpoint of, you know, someone – like, is someone doing it as a
03:38flex?
03:39Then, no, it doesn't impress me.
03:41But I'll be honest.
03:42Like, just knowing, like, how I am in my own life, if someone tells me they get up that early
03:45every day and start their day and do things, I am pretty impressed by that.
03:48That's cool.
03:48That's fair.
03:49Like, I sometimes wish that I would be more in that routine, to be honest with you.
03:52Like, when I get up in the morning and I get my workout in, I feel so much better.
03:56And the days I don't, I'm like, man, I should have worked out this morning and I didn't.
03:58So when someone can do that, I have a lot of respect for that.
04:01That's fair.
04:02I'm glad you said that.
04:02Yeah, I totally agree with that.
04:04Everything you said.
04:05Like, if I don't do something physical between, like, 9 a.m. and noon, I feel like I've let my
04:12– because what am I doing?
04:13Yes.
04:13I'm just sitting all day looking at Twitter all day.
04:16Like, what am I doing?
04:17Yeah.
04:18I just think sometimes, because I want to be fair here, but sometimes it sounds like the coach is telling
04:22you that to impress you.
04:24Sure.
04:24And, you know, if it's for show, then I don't need it.
04:27You've got to be able to tell the difference, I guess.
04:30So, let's see.
04:32What else?
04:32I mean, we've got to – we've got to look at the lineup of –
04:35Want to talk about what happened today?
04:36Yeah.
04:36What happened today?
04:37What people said?
04:38Like, what's more interesting?
04:39What happened or what people said?
04:41Because a few – you know, I know we know Josh talked and obviously the coach, too.
04:44What's the lead, right?
04:45Yes.
04:45And in full transparency, I did not hear Josh yet because I was talking with other people.
04:49Again, because of the way this is structured now.
04:51Like, Josh was at the podium, and I'll go back and listen to him.
04:54I was actually off interviewing other people, including, like, Travis Clayton, you know,
04:58playing defense now as opposed to offense.
05:00And Michael Hoyt was interesting and wanted to talk to him a little bit today
05:03because he was doing individual drills, guys.
05:06Like, he is – it's crazy to think about.
05:09He's back.
05:09It looks like he's back.
05:10Yeah.
05:11At Sales Sports, by the way, if you want to take a look at some video on X,
05:13I'll post it at the website later.
05:15But he's doing individual work, and he knew to the day and how many days it is.
05:21You know, obviously he would know when he tore his Achilles.
05:24He said it was November 5th, and he said, what's that?
05:27How many – seven months and four days or something like that.
05:29Like, he knew it.
05:30Like, and he said, like, I don't know if I'm ahead of schedule.
05:34Sure, it might feel like that.
05:35He goes, I'm just doing what I need to do to get back.
05:37And he is.
05:38He's doing individual work.
05:39I was surprised to see him doing that today.
05:41I thought he'd continue to work with trainers off to the side.
05:43So that was encouraging.
05:44Joshua Palmer was back working on the field.
05:48You know, just seemed to be taking regular reps.
05:50So that was good to see.
05:51Deion Dawkins was back.
05:53That was good.
05:53We heard from him a little bit.
05:54He said he's certainly not where he wants to be physically, but he's getting there.
05:58Like, he's had to really kind of do some things different with his body.
06:01He wants to be able to be in a – he wants to lose some weight for the season.
06:04And, you know, it's just still early for that.
06:07We did not, however, see Skylar Bell out there.
06:09I did see him catching passes from the jugs machine after practice.
06:13So he had a sleeve on one of his legs.
06:15So I'm guessing he just kind of nicked up a little bit.
06:17You know, nothing too much to worry about if that was the case.
06:20Cole Bishop did not do any football activities.
06:23He was on the sidelines watching, and so was Spencer Brown.
06:26I don't think there's any reason to believe either of them have anything major.
06:30However, Dorian Williams was spotted by Matt Bova.
06:34I did not see Dorian, but he was spotted.
06:35Matt tweeted it out on big crutches.
06:38Like Matt said, the crutches were pretty big too.
06:40Like, Dorian was on crutches.
06:42He – Joe Brady was asked before practice, before we saw this,
06:46about Dorian not being at OTAs.
06:48He revealed there's an injury.
06:50He did not say specifically, but we know it's something different
06:53than the neck injury during the playoffs, which means it's an off-season injury.
06:57Because you wouldn't be on crutches with a neck injury.
06:59Probably.
07:00Although, it's football.
07:01They could try to trick you.
07:02Right.
07:03They don't have to disclose injuries now.
07:05And so, yeah, Brady goes on to say they hope Williams is ready for –
07:08hope he's ready for camp is what I think I read, right?
07:11So, that doesn't sound super great.
07:14It doesn't.
07:15I mean, you guys know, I think we talked a little bit about, you know,
07:17the linebacker spot.
07:18And I just think, first of all, I think there's a true open competition there.
07:22But this really makes me zero in on Caleb Elamzor.
07:25Like, I think this is – he's going to go to training camp as the frontrunner now.
07:29There's no doubt about it.
07:30He's going to have all this opportunity in taking these reps during the offseason.
07:36Terrell Bernard is – I just wrote about this at WGR550.com with the inside linebackers.
07:40And it's just so happening now where, to me, like, Bernard's already the entrenched starter.
07:43And now you're going to have Caleb Elamzor there.
07:45It also makes sense now that, you know, they did bring in another linebacker just a couple weeks ago.
07:52Demetrius Flanagan Fowles.
07:54And, you know, he's got – this guy's been in the league, what, six, seven years.
07:56So, at least you have another veteran in the room.
07:58You have Joe Andreessen still there.
08:00But this is a bummer for Dorian Williams.
08:02I hope, you know, he's ready for his sake.
08:04He's done everything he can to put himself in position.
08:06Four years, last year, of a rookie contract he's going into with a change in defense
08:10and maybe an opportunity to be a starter.
08:12And this happens.
08:13You know, it kind of sucks.
08:14You know what I mean?
08:15I've heard this from others.
08:17I'm thinking of Jacob Sanderson, who I'll be on with tonight from ADP Chasing,
08:21thinking of Daniel Jones.
08:22Sal, have you given a thought to this?
08:24Speaking of Hoyt, I think Achilles injuries,
08:27we have to recalibrate how long they take.
08:30I mean, it wasn't that long ago that you did not come back.
08:34I mean, then Cam Akers happened.
08:36Cam Akers, as a running back, had an Achilles injury.
08:40And then, like, wow, he was already – he wasn't super good.
08:43He might never have been super good.
08:45But I think maybe there's a thing here.
08:48Like, Daniel Jones, Jacob is a Colts fan.
08:50He's like, he'll be there week one.
08:51And that seemed counterintuitive.
08:53I mean, he was injured very late.
08:55Yeah, only a couple of years ago we were sort of rolling our eyes
08:58at Aaron Rodgers talking through an offseason like, I'm going to be fine.
09:01Right.
09:01And it turned out he was.
09:03Like, there was even – there was even, like, talk –
09:05I don't know how serious it was at all –
09:07about him even coming back later that season.
09:09That's right.
09:10And we all made fun of that.
09:11Yeah, we absolutely did.
09:12Yeah.
09:13Well, I agree with you.
09:14It feels like – it feels like there's been many advancements maybe
09:19with Achilles injuries, right?
09:21I'm not sure on that necessarily, but I agree that maybe we have to think
09:25a little bit differently than what we've always, you know, thought about it.
09:29You know, Michael Hoyt, I asked him today.
09:32I said, I know you're an Ivy League guy.
09:34He went to Brown, right?
09:35I mean, he's a smart guy.
09:36I said, how much have you, like, dived into the science of the Achilles injury?
09:43And – because it's funny you're asking me about this because I'm curious about this.
09:46Like, here's this guy.
09:47He's already out there, and he's doing all this.
09:48And I'm like, you're a smart guy.
09:49Like, did you read up about it?
09:52Have you been, you know, kind of just kind of immersing yourself in the recovery?
09:57Now, he said, look, a lot of the stuff is going to be the same for a lot of people,
10:01but sure.
10:02He said, I've been a sponge with a lot of the doctors, just understanding the body,
10:06understanding a lot of what goes into it, what to do, what not to do.
10:10He said, you're probably going to get the same kind of rehab from most places, but sure.
10:15You know, and that doesn't surprise me.
10:16Michael Hoyt's a very, very intelligent man, and I figured that this would be the case with him.
10:22Sal Capaccio with us on the Western Hotline.
10:25Minicamp for the Bills this week.
10:28Listening to Brady today, we were talking about not only some of what he said, but how he says it.
10:34I've had this little bit of a bug of my own when it comes to him, because he kind of
10:38just,
10:39in a fast sort of way, says everything, covers all the bases.
10:42He does talk fast.
10:43He talks fast, and he kind of covers every possible answer to the question,
10:46so as, you know, not to, I guess, perhaps expose himself in some way.
10:51So, like, after, it's a little bit of a date on the calendar today, the first day where everybody has
10:58to be there.
11:00Did he give you any sort of impression about anything that was different or fresh?
11:06No.
11:07It's funny you say that.
11:09I always, like, I think I talk fast, so, you know, Joe Brady, I think he talks fast, so, I
11:13mean, that's...
11:13Nothing wrong with that.
11:14Listen to him.
11:15Nothing wrong with that.
11:18I don't know if...
11:19I wouldn't say different, Mike, but, like, when he was asked...
11:22So, he comes out to his press conference.
11:24You know, sometimes the way this works is people open up with a statement.
11:27You know, you're kind of waiting for them to talk.
11:29He didn't talk.
11:30He just stands there, and he kind of looks at us.
11:31So, I'm not always the first person to ask a question, but today I was the first person to ask
11:35a question.
11:36And I said, Joe, is everyone here today?
11:39Joe, are you expecting, you know, everyone to be here?
11:41Whatever, however I said it.
11:43His first two words, everybody's here.
11:45He said, love the attendance we've had.
11:48Everybody's here.
11:49And then he was asked a follow-up question about guys who weren't here, like James Cook.
11:54And he said something to the effect of, look, you'd love everybody to be here throughout everything.
11:59It's just, but I've been in contact with these guys.
12:01And that was the first sense I got where he was saying, like, yeah, you know what?
12:06A few of these guys have missed some things, and we need to get them back, you know, making sure.
12:09And not that he's mad at them or anything, but you want to get full attendance now, but, you know,
12:14you're a first-year head coach.
12:15You wish maybe you had full attendance, and it's unrealistic, but there were some key guys maybe not here, and
12:22now they're here.
12:23And, you know, he's super happy about that, but that was the first time I got him.
12:25Yeah, I kind of got the feeling that he was, you know, talking about guys not being here.
12:31And, you know, that would have been nice if they were here.
12:33Does that include, not to throw you a curveball, does that include Tyler Bass?
12:39You mean not being here?
12:41Being there.
12:41Like, if everybody's here, he's there, right?
12:43He's under contract, isn't he?
12:45Yep.
12:46He is, yeah.
12:46I don't see any reason why.
12:48I can't remember anything going on with him other than the injury from earlier this offseason.
12:52Okay.
12:52Does he have a new number?
12:53I'm sorry, from last year, I'm sorry.
12:56But, yeah, he's there, and he's participating.
12:58It's weird with the special teamers, the kickers, the punters, the long snappers, because sometimes guys, like, they will just
13:05do their work separately.
13:06And I'm not even paying attention if they're there or not, because I don't want to say they're not there,
13:10because they literally could be inside the new stadium, for all I know, testing the wind.
13:14You know what I mean?
13:15Like, I don't know.
13:16That's how that thing goes with them.
13:18Does he have a new number?
13:1916.
13:2016.
13:2016 now, because Moore has two.
13:22DJ Moore is number two.
13:22Do we have an official trade transaction?
13:26Not yet.
13:27We haven't asked about that yet.
13:28Thank you for reminding me.
13:29I'd like to get that on record at some point.
13:31Maybe we'll do it at training camp.
13:32But at some point, we're going to ask him for that, for sure.
13:34By the way, on profootballreference.com, we enjoy the nicknames, and sometimes the pronunciations come in handy.
13:39For Tyler Bass, it literally says, pronunciation, pronounced like the fish.
13:45That's what it says.
13:45Well, that's because it says that in the Bills media guide.
13:48So it's just copied from there?
13:50Pronounced like the fish.
13:51Literally, when we get our game notes, if you look at the game notes, the flip card that you guys
13:56see, and you go in the Bills media guide, it says pronunciations, and it says bass, pronounced like the fish.
14:01Well, that only helps me if I know how to pronounce the fish.
14:03I mean, if I don't know that, I'm in trouble.
14:05Right.
14:06I wonder if there's ever been anyone who goes, well, I'm sure there has, goes by bass, that spelling, and
14:13on their pro football reference card, it would say, pronounced like the musical instrument.
14:18Right.
14:18I've never heard anybody pronounce bass with that spelling, but I'd like to meet somebody who has that.
14:24Right.
14:25All right.
14:27DJ Moore.
14:28I asked because there's a picture of DJ Moore today.
14:30He's got a playing card under his hat.
14:31The two of hearts.
14:34He's number two.
14:35He's got the two of hearts.
14:36Oh, okay.
14:36Gotcha.
14:37Sal, we've talked about Moore, and we'll do so many more times, no pun intended.
14:40What's a stat line that they can live with that will make the Bills feel like, notwithstanding their record, I
14:49mean, that's where it has to start, and that's what matters the most.
14:52But with what they've invested in Moore, draft pick, money, and then a role presumably as the number one target
15:01in this offense, I'm saying that.
15:02What's an acceptable year, like a minimum acceptable year?
15:08First of all, let me give you a note on DJ Moore, since he's top of mind here.
15:11There was a moment during practice today where he was being looked like he was being looked at by trainers,
15:18and even Josh Allen went over and got down and talked to him.
15:20We're all like, ooh, what happened?
15:21It was after a play in the red zone where it appeared that he tried to kind of pull up
15:24a little bit and go the other way, and we were like, did something happen?
15:28He got back up, he put his helmet on, and he went back in, so nothing to worry about, but
15:32just to kind of cover all the bases here, if you look at last year for the Buffalo Bills, and
15:39what their wide receiver, and where there's been so much discussion about wide receivers, their top receiver was who?
15:46Khalil Shakir, right?
15:4772 catches, 719 yards.
15:50First of all, I would say DJ Moore has to blow by that.
15:54Like, you have to be better than that.
15:56He wasn't brought here to do 72 catches for 719 yards.
16:01DJ Moore has been an 1,100-plus-yard receiver four times in his career.
16:06I think he has to at least get to 1,000 yards and maybe 1,100 to get to where
16:11you're talking about, Mike.
16:12And touchdowns?
16:14Do you see him being, I mean, they don't really have this already for him to replace somebody as this,
16:20but is he, is it possible, is it likely he's a number one option?
16:27On third and goal from the eight, like, is that, is that going to be a part of his story
16:31this year?
16:34It's a good question.
16:35I don't think I'm comfortable answering that until I see a little bit more training camp and how they want
16:38to deploy him.
16:40But my initial reaction to everything I've heard about DJ Moore and watching him, there is no situation where he
16:48won't be on the field, or at least they won't hesitate to put him on the field.
16:52Last year, I mean, the Bills had a prolific offense.
16:55Explosive plays, great season.
16:58Eleven touchdown passes went to wide receivers.
17:01Coleman tied for the most.
17:02You think of Coleman all the time as, like, what he isn't.
17:05Four.
17:06Four with Shakir.
17:07And then it's one each for Shavers, Gabe Davis, and Curtis Samuel.
17:11Regular season.
17:12Yeah.
17:12Knox and Kincaid had four and five, respectively, to the not receivers.
17:17Right.
17:17You have big rushing touchdown years from Allen every year.
17:20Cook broke the franchise record two years ago in touchdown rushes.
17:24It doesn't have to be one way.
17:25But there's been room here for somebody, not that Moore is a huge target, exactly, but there's been room for
17:31somebody to elevate in this area.
17:35I mean, if Dalton Kincaid stays healthy, I think Dalton Kincaid is a much bigger proposition, better proposition to be
17:45that guy.
17:46I think they would love to use Dalton Kincaid in that way.
17:51He is so athletic.
17:53He can be a mismatch.
17:54And if you're going to go a little bigger at the goal line, I think he can beat a guy.
17:57And that would be great for them.
17:59And he's looking really good.
18:00But he, by the way, Sunday was the Greg Rousseau softball game.
18:04I was the emcee out there.
18:06And this guy just, you know, was smashing home runs.
18:08And he looked great.
18:09And he's been doing everything this offseason.
18:13You know, there was talk at the Combine and owners meeting about, you know, what, load management or whatever.
18:18And he made the rounds.
18:19And, I mean, today I asked Brady about Dalton.
18:22And he said he talked immediately about his mindset, his mindset.
18:26And that's a part of it, too.
18:27If you're looking for that, Mike, I would – I think Dalton Kincaid is the more likely option to be
18:33the guy that could have some sort of major impact on red zone, you know, throwing the ball and catching
18:41the ball in the red zone than D.J. Moore.
18:43And that's not to say D.J. Moore won't be a part of that.
18:45Yeah.
18:46The talk about load management was from the Bills, right?
18:49It wasn't just us speculating.
18:51No, no, no.
18:51That's right.
18:52Right.
18:52They all used that phrasing talking about Kincaid.
18:54And when they said it, people thought they meant in the season.
18:57I didn't – I thought they meant in the offseason, but I haven't seen it yet in the offseason.
19:00I'm saying, too.
19:01Right, right, right.
19:01Yeah, good point.
19:03Good point.
19:03Yeah.
19:04I saw a clip today, Brandon Cooks on some, you know, NFL show talking about how much he loved it
19:10here.
19:12And I also saw an interaction that I believe was between Deion Dawkins and Stefan Diggs, where Dawkins is, like,
19:21saying, it's time.
19:22Kind of like, you know, come on back kind of thing.
19:26Do you think they will add a receiver of that caliber to this room, or do you think they'll go
19:32to camp with what they've got?
19:34This is a really interesting discussion for me because we just had it this morning with Jeremy and Joe, and
19:40where I arrived ultimately was, would I be surprised if in September Brandon Cooks is on the roster and not
19:48Joshua Palmer?
19:49I would not be surprised.
19:50Joshua Palmer today was on the field doing work.
19:53He hadn't been doing that the time we were out there.
19:55He had injuries last year.
19:57I think they like Joshua Palmer.
19:58He's got to be healthy, though.
19:59They can save $2.5 million.
20:01Now, they would take a pretty good dead cap hit, but I don't think that matters to these teams as
20:04much these days.
20:05The money you're saving is more important.
20:07You can move on from him and save $2.5 million.
20:10And I think Brandon Cooks was very much what they wanted in a wide receiver.
20:14They loved him in that building.
20:15They talked so highly of him.
20:17I just think the Stefan Diggs stuff is so – it's soap opera stuff.
20:22To me, it's not worth really getting into talking about, like, as far as a serious idea.
20:27I mean, and Deion Dawkins, I don't know.
20:30I mean, that could be anything.
20:30Deion Dawkins posted an April Fool's joke that he got traded to the Miami Dolphins, you know, on social media.
20:36Oh, that wasn't real?
20:38Yeah, so I don't think the Stefan Diggs thing is – I think that's not going to happen.
20:44I'd be really stunned.
20:45There'd have to be some sort of amazing reversal of, you know, those two parties and how they – you
20:50know, how everything ended and stuff.
20:52But without getting into that, I think Brandon Cooks could be a legitimate possibility.
20:57But that might depend on where this lands with Joshua Palmer, Keon Ullman, Skylar Bell, and what all that looks
21:04like there.
21:05Poor Sal.
21:06Every single show, we want to talk about wide receivers.
21:08I asked him that – as I asked him the DJ Moore stat question, it hit me.
21:11I just asked him that last week.
21:13The same question.
21:14Yeah.
21:15I pushed back on Moore a little bit.
21:16Well, hey, you asked me something else last week that actually we did get some play on, just so you
21:20know, it is the James Cook workload.
21:23You know, Brady was asked about it today.
21:26And what he said was – and I can actually read the quote back because your pals over there at
21:31Sleeper quoted me on Twitter there, Mike.
21:34And they put it on Sleeper NFL.
21:36Can't have the mindset of how many carries he's going to have.
21:39He played at such a high level last year.
21:41But I would love to have opportunities to get Ray Davis and Ty Johnson the ball.
21:44That's what Brady said today.
21:45Yeah, that's one of those where he says kind of everything.
21:50385 touches for Cook last year, including playoffs.
21:55He took one today.
21:56Like, they can't, like, hit each other, right?
21:58You run through the hole.
21:59Defenders get in there.
22:00They put an arm on you.
22:01That's the kind of time we're in.
22:03But, like, he had a run today that was just he has not missed a beat.
22:07It looked exactly like one of those touchdown runs where he just gets into the hole and explodes and takes
22:13it to the house.
22:13And it looked just like that today.
22:14And I'm like, all right, well, that's James Cook.
22:17385 is the number.
22:17It's a lot.
22:18Right.
22:18It was 342 in the regular season.
22:20So that tracks.
22:21Thank you, Sal.
22:22Talk to you tomorrow, I bet.
22:24You got it, guys.
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