00:00What we've seen is a number of cases now where, whether it's our police or wider public services,
00:05they are not intervening to stop public harm from happening because they are too frightened
00:10of being called racist.
00:12So we have to unpick the ideology which has got into our public services because actually
00:17whether it's murder or child abuse, the case of the grooming gangs for example, we need
00:22to make sure that they can operate without fear or favour to do what they need to do
00:26to keep the public safe from harm.
00:28I do think there is a two-tier policing problem but that's not just policing, it's across
00:33our public services and we saw within the police services there's a race action plan where
00:38they're being told to treat ethnic minorities differently.
00:41I don't actually think anybody in the country wants that.
00:44We should all be equal before the law.
00:46That is the best way to make sure that the police can uphold law and order and also that
00:50they can uphold the trust that the public have in them as well.
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