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00:11Hello and welcome to your first one show of the week live on BBC One and iPlayer with JB Gill
00:17and Roman Kemp.
00:19Now the three day weekend is almost over for many but tonight we are keeping the bank holiday feeling alive
00:24with three guests who never fail to bring the laughs.
00:27Yeah we'll be joined by two of the stars of the hit comedy Amanda Land, Philippa Dunn and Samuel Anderson
00:32aka Amanda's long-suffering friends Anne and Mal.
00:36They'll be revealing what's in store for the Motherland spin-off which returns to BBC One on Wednesday.
00:43Yes and joining them is Father Ted's star and best-selling author Ardell O'Hanlon as he tells us about
00:48his new murder mystery novel and while working on Death in Paradise inspired him to bring cosy crime to the
00:54page.
00:54Yeah also coming up in the week the BBC is celebrating Sir David Attenborough's 100th birthday.
00:59We'll be giving you a preview of a special film that we'll be showing on Thursday as we join David's
01:04former cubs and scouts group as they mark his centenary year.
01:08How incredible and later we'll take a closer look at a species Sir David once described as one of the
01:14most intelligent in the ocean.
01:16A Zizi Daily visits a centre of research in Plymouth exploring the extraordinary mind of the cuttlefish.
01:21Yeah very very smart and of course we love hearing from you so if you have a question for our
01:27guests or a comment about anything on tonight's show please do get in touch on WhatsApp 033 0123 1700 or
01:32we're on socials and email.
01:34But first with the recent news that the government is investing over £270 million to help make the UK shipping
01:40industry greener.
01:41We're starting tonight by visiting one of Scotland's largest ports that's already been making waves in sustainability.
01:49With more than 6,000 vessels passing through every year Aberdeen is one of the UK's busiest ports.
01:57In fact it handles around 40% of all Scotland's seagoing commercial traffic.
02:05The almost 900 year old port has had to change with the times and it's just undergone a major sustainability
02:12upgrade.
02:14How cool is this?
02:15Benji Morrison is the harbour master.
02:19Dolphins just jumping in the harbour outside your window in your office.
02:23Number 7805 up a day of ETS that is all copy thank you.
02:26We've had quite a busy morning we've got quite a lot of vessels in just outside the window there you
02:31can probably see quite a few oil and gas vessels.
02:35We've got some tankers in at the moment and we've also got the ferries in at the moment that run
02:40up to the Northern Isles for Orkney and Shetland.
02:44With the UK pushing towards net zero emissions the environment is at the top of the agenda here.
02:51We have started to be proactive with what we're doing in Port of Aberdeen and we are future proofing the
02:57port for sustainability.
03:03Historically big ships docked in the port have had to burn fossil fuels to keep their systems working.
03:10But now a new electrical system has been installed which means docked ships can plug into the mains and switch
03:18off their diesel engines.
03:21Holly Allen is the innovation project manager.
03:24The port of Aberdeen have installed multiple shore power connection points across our North Harbour to allow vessels to plug
03:31in and connect to electricity when they come into port.
03:37The power is supplied by renewable energy helping ships cut emissions by up to 80%.
03:48Running the ships on electricity also cuts noise pollution
03:52and improves air quality.
03:56Out of more than 50 berths at the port only 10 are currently running on electricity but the port has
04:03big plans.
04:05We've made a really good start with the shore power we have around North Harbour but we're always looking to
04:09what area's next, where can we expand to.
04:15Aberdeen isn't alone in its push for sustainability.
04:17Across the UK ports like Leith, Montrose and Portsmouth are also moving towards electric berths.
04:28It's our ambition to create prosperity for generations and really leave the port in a better position than when we
04:36found it.
04:37So if we can make shore power a success, I think that would just be brilliant.
04:43I mean, how great to see the port of Aberdeen doing its bit for the planet, eh?
04:46There you go. Certainly a step in the right direction.
04:49Time now, though, to introduce tonight's guests.
04:51Please welcome stars of Amanda Land, Samuel Anderson and Philippa Dunn and comedian and author Adlai Handler.
04:57Well, come on. It's a little bit of a sitcom special that we've got going on tonight.
05:03I mean, we've got Father Ted, Gavin and Stacey, Philippa and Adlai, you both obviously appeared in Derry Girls as
05:09well.
05:10And Adlai, you say that show, that really kind of, you felt, put Northern Ireland on the map almost.
05:16Absolutely. People thought it wouldn't travel.
05:19Mm, yeah, yeah.
05:19I didn't even think it would travel as far as Southern Ireland, like, or, never mind the UK, but it's
05:24huge in America and everywhere.
05:26And Australia and everywhere.
05:27Were they mentioning it on The Simpsons? Did I hear that right?
05:29Yeah, yeah.
05:29I've got a reference on The Simpsons.
05:31There you go.
05:32No, it's not my season.
05:33Yeah.
05:34Or my character. I mean, I think I was in two episodes.
05:38I played a cousin, Aime, and a cousin of one of the parents.
05:43And we were never in scenes together, which is a shame.
05:46No, no, no. No, I know.
05:46Oh, that's, I used to just see your picture on the wall and be like, one day maybe I'll get
05:49to work with Ardyn.
05:51And now here we are.
05:52Yes, indeed.
05:53On the sofa, on the one show.
05:55Well, Philippa, you say Derry Girls is such, or we know Derry Girls is such a love show.
06:00What was it like being part of a comedy series that had such a massive impact?
06:04It was really nice.
06:05I remember, like, just being so delighted I got that job, because everyone was lovely.
06:10And you got to go to Belfast, which is so cool.
06:13And then I remember we were getting ready to shoot series three and being in my trailer
06:19and just hearing all these kids behind a hedge going, come out, come out, can we have a look?
06:24And we weren't allowed to go out, but they were so pumped, like.
06:28So, yeah, there was always this thrill around.
06:29It was really cool.
06:30Fantastic.
06:31Well, Philippa and Samuel are here bringing us plenty more laughs in the brand new series of Amanda Land,
06:38the hit comedy, which is a spin-off, of course, from the BAFTA-winning Motherland.
06:41Yes, it follows Amanda, played by Lucy Punch, and her neighbours and friends as they navigate
06:45the highs and lows of parenting teenagers, from first kisses to friendship fallouts.
06:50And that's just appearance.
06:52Please welcome Amanda Hughes.
06:54You've probably seen my content and assumed it's another shallow lifestyle brand.
07:00And I've just smashed 7K, so you'll have to excuse my appearance.
07:04I'm actually reading 1984 at the moment.
07:06I recommend Handmaid's Tale.
07:07Love anything handmade.
07:08I use social media to touch people.
07:10You post a picture of yourself eating cakes, and that's a job?
07:13We're about connecting with people on a human level.
07:17You can't just confront someone like Amanda, what we am.
07:19She am enraged.
07:20Did someone just guess your real age?
07:21She came, she saw, she gentrified.
07:27I mean, look, Philippa, we've known Anne, your character, Amanda's long-standing friend,
07:32from, of course, Motherland as well.
07:34But in the last series of Amanda Land, she was saving her from her relationship.
07:39So where do we find the pair now?
07:41Oh, it's kind of like they're back to scratch.
07:43It's like nothing happened.
07:44When we start series two, we're just in Soha doing the usual.
07:48Amanda is still trying to grow her Senuous brand.
07:50The parents are still going to football matches and practice and stuff.
07:56We've got our teenagers to kind of look after.
07:58And, yeah, it's just the same thing, but on repeat.
08:02Yeah.
08:05It is brilliant.
08:06Now, Samuel, you play Amanda's neighbour, Mal.
08:09Now, there was a hint of romance in the last series.
08:12They didn't get off to the best of starts, though.
08:14So can we see that romance blossom maybe continue in the new series?
08:17You know, I think it's the longing that the audience has for this romance
08:23that is keeping this romance alive.
08:25I think that's the flame above it.
08:27I think give it some time and we'll see where it goes.
08:33He's being very ploy.
08:34He's being very ploy.
08:35Very ploy.
08:37Philippa, Amanda obviously still wants to be an influencer.
08:41Yes.
08:41We saw her there showing that she'd smashed a 7K.
08:44Yes.
08:45But Anne is about to maybe accidentally steal the thunder.
08:49Yeah, she goes viral by mistake.
08:51Yeah.
08:53Not on purpose.
08:55The series, she's kind of trying to teach Darius a couple of very important lessons,
09:00especially now that he's, like, deep into his teenage years.
09:04It's very funny.
09:06So, yeah.
09:07It's very funny.
09:09Accidentally and not on purpose.
09:10Right, accidentally not on purpose.
09:12No, no, no.
09:12No, and she becomes famous for a few minutes.
09:15And, yeah, Amanda's not best pleased.
09:17But, you know, she didn't mean to do it.
09:19It just happened.
09:20Yeah, Amanda's still trying to get in the algorithm.
09:22Oh, for sure.
09:23Yeah, yeah, yeah.
09:24Well, Samuel, I love the fact that you guys can still laugh about it
09:26because there were so many people who loved the show.
09:29The first series went down incredibly well.
09:31But also with a few of your friends who are parents.
09:35Tell us about that.
09:35My friends?
09:36Who are parents.
09:37Oh.
09:40I mean, I've been in the game about 20 years now
09:42and no-one's ever been bothered.
09:44All my friends and girlfriends and partners
09:46have never, ever, ever asked about how I'm doing
09:48or what I'm doing.
09:49But since Amanda Lang come out, I'm a big...
09:52Big hit.
09:53Yeah, I'm a big hit amongst my friends' wives,
09:55the girlfriends, all of a sudden.
09:58Why do you think it's them, necessarily?
09:59Is it because they're seeing it, obviously,
10:01as parents watching the show?
10:03Yeah, exactly.
10:04Young parents and the fact that it's, you know, it's the show.
10:09You know, everyone's talking about it in the office.
10:11It's the hat.
10:12It is the hat.
10:13And the shorts.
10:15Exactly.
10:16Yeah.
10:17But, Philippa, of course, you're joined by some new castmates
10:20for this series.
10:21But there is one castmate in particular
10:23who caused quite the stir on set,
10:26a four-legged friend, let's say.
10:28Go on, tell me, who is it?
10:30Him, amongst others.
10:31We had...
10:32Well, he plays Bobby.
10:33Yeah.
10:33I think his name was...
10:34Was his name Fire?
10:36Fire?
10:37I can't remember.
10:38Imagine your name being Fire
10:40and then you turn up and they go,
10:41you're Bobby now.
10:42Yeah.
10:43It's a bit of a step-down.
10:45But, yeah, he was gorgeous.
10:46There's something about having a dog on set.
10:48They're just so calming and so chill out.
10:50Yeah, so one of the storylines is that Reshenda...
10:54Sorry, Fee, played by Reshenda.
10:56Yeah.
10:56She's trying her hand at a few new jobs,
10:58see how she can make her own money.
10:59So she's so reliant on Della.
11:01So that's where the dogs come into it.
11:03And I'm not saying anymore.
11:04Was it one of those...
11:04They're still the scenes, aren't they?
11:06Yeah.
11:06They're still the scenes.
11:07Yeah.
11:07I was going to say, was it one of those things
11:08when you're going through the script,
11:09you're going, is this one with the dog?
11:11Yeah.
11:11Is it with the dogs?
11:12Well, I just thought from reading it first,
11:14it's like, no, those dogs will go by the third draft.
11:16They'll realise, no, dogs are just not the easiest.
11:19No, but these dogs were gorgeous.
11:21They were just so good and so calm and, like, really nice.
11:24Yeah.
11:24Fantastic.
11:24Well, we've got a comment coming for you, Samuel, from Maria,
11:28which says, loved watching Samuel in The Walsh Sisters.
11:31And a bit like Philippa and Ardell,
11:33you've got Irish roots, haven't you?
11:34So filming in Dublin for that show was really special.
11:37I do.
11:38I mean, you say it's a comedy theme.
11:39It's an Irish theme.
11:40Yes.
11:41Yeah, of course.
11:42Yeah, yeah.
11:42I have...
11:43What was the question?
11:44Sorry, I have roots in Dublin and...
11:45Yeah, no, so you've got roots in Dublin.
11:47So filming that in Dublin was really special for you.
11:49Oh, my God, it was incredible.
11:50Um, it was, it was like a return to home I didn't know I needed.
11:55Yeah.
11:56Yeah, it's a beautiful place, incredible people.
11:58And I was, I have to say, it was like a culture shock.
12:02I didn't know how different the Irish were to the rest of the world
12:06and how similar they were to the Jamaicans.
12:08I'm half Jamaican too.
12:09Yeah.
12:09I heard this too and it's like, it's true, you know?
12:13They're similar.
12:17Samuel, we can't have you on without mentioning Gavin and Stacey.
12:20Have to, because obviously you played one of the lads on the Stag Do.
12:22One of the BBC hits.
12:24What a Stag Do it is.
12:25I mean, look at this.
12:26There you are in your Hammers gear.
12:28But...
12:29I got cursed out for wearing that Hammers shirt by my Villa friends.
12:32But your, your relationship obviously with, with James Corden,
12:35longstanding friends, and you remember seeing the show
12:38kind of firsthand being created.
12:40Yeah.
12:41We were actually in, on tour when he was writing it.
12:44We were in New York.
12:46And funnily enough, one of the weeks my parents came over to visit,
12:49we all, we were hanging out and James wasn't there.
12:52And I, I remember my dad saying, where, where's James?
12:55It was like, oh, he's writing a show.
12:57Like, Ruth was over and they were huddled away
13:00right in Gavin and Stacey.
13:02Wow.
13:02It was in its little genesis.
13:04Right in the beginning.
13:04Right in the beginning.
13:06And it was just a hope and a dream for him.
13:08Like, imagine if we can get this off the ground.
13:10Imagine if we can get these people to do the song.
13:12Imagine.
13:13Yeah.
13:14And all of a sudden it's, you know, the biggest thing.
13:16Phenomenon.
13:17Yeah.
13:17The last three years, yeah.
13:18Well, you can see Samuel and Philippa in Amanda Land,
13:21which starts on Wednesday at nine o'clock on BBC One.
13:24And you can find all of Series One available, of course,
13:27to watch on iPlayer.
13:28Still to come tonight, Ardell tells us how locals
13:30in his home county, Monaghan, helped bring his new crime novel
13:34to life.
13:34But first, all week the BBC is marking 100 years
13:38of Sir David Attenborough.
13:39And our next film tonight is shining a light
13:41on a fascinating species he's brought to our screens
13:44on many occasions.
13:45Yes.
13:45And now Lizzie Daly has been exploring the powerful mind
13:47of the cuttlefish as she heads to Plymouth
13:50to discover how new research is helping us better understand
13:53one of the most intelligent creatures in the sea.
13:58Common cuttlefish have been in our oceans
14:00for 500 million years.
14:02But rarely do we get to see them.
14:05For most people, the closest encounter they'll have
14:08with the cuttlefish is when these cuttle bones,
14:11which are that internal shell, wash up on beaches
14:14around the UK.
14:15In the sea, they are true chameleons,
14:18able to change colour in a blink of an eye.
14:21It's an adaptation that keeps them hidden
14:24from both predator and prey.
14:27I was lucky enough to capture this cuttlefish on film,
14:30moving gracefully through the kelp of the Cornish coast.
14:35I find them endlessly fascinating, and I'm not alone.
14:40Scientists at the Marine Biological Association in Plymouth
14:44have been studying their behaviour for decades.
14:47Now they're turning their attention
14:49to the inner workings of their minds.
14:53Joe Fizy-Kemp is the aquarium technician.
14:56Currently, we've got about 50 cuttlefish on site.
15:00They're all from the same group of eggs,
15:01so they're all about eight months old at the moment.
15:03So what are some of the surprising things
15:05that you've learned by studying cuttlefish here?
15:08Their ability to change colour and texture of their skin,
15:11how they do that.
15:12Cuttlefish can blend into their surroundings
15:14by using their brains to control
15:17thousands of tiny colour-shifting skin cells
15:20called chromatophores.
15:22And it's just one of the tricks
15:24they pick up early in their short two-year life.
15:28They do recognise individuals, they're curious,
15:31they're always interested in what's going on,
15:32and they learn so quickly.
15:34Really intelligent.
15:35They don't get enough credit.
15:37To understand just how clever cuttlefish are,
15:40they've teamed up with researchers
15:42from the University of Cambridge
15:43to explore their eagerness to learn.
15:47Dr Victor Adjuwon is the lead researcher.
15:50What we're trying to look at at the moment
15:52is we're trying to test whether they're curious,
15:54whether they're interested in gaining information
15:56for its own sake.
15:57For humans, we obviously think of ourselves
16:00as very intelligent animals,
16:01and something that's a really important aspect of that
16:03is our curiosity.
16:04And why is that so important to understand?
16:07The more we test other animals
16:09that look very different to us
16:10or behave very different to us,
16:11like the cephalopods,
16:12the more we realise actually
16:13there is a lot that we have in common with them.
16:16So better characterising intelligence
16:17can actually have knock-on impacts
16:19for the way we think about their welfare
16:21and also conservation.
16:23In Victor's specially designed test tank,
16:26Apricot, a female cuttlefish,
16:28will face a curiosity challenge.
16:31Oh, there she is!
16:33There she is.
16:34So what will we see now?
16:35A light can come on
16:36on either one of these two zones.
16:39To get a reward,
16:40Apricot is going to need to swim round to that side,
16:43be detected by the programme,
16:44and that will then cause the feeder
16:46to drop a reward to her.
16:47OK.
16:48The light at the bottom of the tank
16:50is now on.
16:52Apricot's now moving.
16:54Oh, yes!
16:55By doing so,
16:56she triggers a food reward.
16:58Oh!
17:00Look at that!
17:00She's going for it, yeah.
17:01That is really nice.
17:02So that is exactly what you want to see,
17:04the light on,
17:05food in.
17:06They know what to do, yeah.
17:08Victor switches the light
17:09to the other side of the tank
17:11to see if it piques Apricot's interest.
17:15All right.
17:17It looks like she's seen it
17:18and it's going to start to creep over there.
17:20So she's already made that association
17:21because she's moving...
17:22Oh, there's the food.
17:23And there's the food.
17:26She's got it.
17:27Even without that food
17:28and that reinforcement,
17:30she'd already moved to that side.
17:31Yeah, yeah.
17:31So that's the kind of thing
17:32you're looking for.
17:32That's exactly what we want to see.
17:34This curiosity makes them more willing
17:37to explore in the wild,
17:39boosting their chances of finding food.
17:41The number one priority for a cuttlefish
17:44that needs to grow fast.
17:47It's so easy to underestimate
17:48just how clever cuttlefish are,
17:51but when you see them making complex decisions,
17:53suddenly you appreciate
17:55just how intelligent they need to be
17:57to survive and thrive out there.
18:03So smart, isn't it?
18:04I mean, fascinating to see how their mind works.
18:06Thank you so much to Lizzie for that.
18:08And talking of incredible wildlife,
18:10as we mentioned all this week,
18:12the BBC is celebrating
18:13Sir David Attenborough's 100th birthday
18:15with some fantastic programmes
18:17available to watch on iPlayer,
18:18from the making of Life on Earth
18:20to his latest series, Secret Garden.
18:22Yes.
18:23And on Friday at 8.30pm on BBC One,
18:26you'll be able to watch
18:26David Attenborough's
18:27100 Years on Planet Earth,
18:30a star-studded live event
18:31taking place at London's Royal Albert Hall,
18:33which will honour his groundbreaking career.
18:36Yeah, and two people
18:37who will be at the heart of all the action
18:39are broadcasters Chris Packham
18:40and Liz Bonin,
18:41and they'll be on our sofa on Thursday
18:43to tell us more about the celebrations.
18:45Plus, we'll have a heartwarming film
18:47where we actually meet
18:48Sir David's former Cubs and Scouts group
18:50as they mark his 100th birthday
18:52in a very special way.
18:54Here is a little preview.
18:56They kept a record of badges
18:59both in the Cubs and in the Scouts.
19:02David did his Naturalist badge.
19:0486 years after he achieved his badge,
19:07the Cubs and Scouts are hard at work
19:09to earning theirs.
19:12If you don't really know that much
19:14about wildlife,
19:14it's really, really good
19:16to watch stuff like that.
19:18I just really like nature.
19:19And he's my role model.
19:21These saplings are just the start.
19:24Soon, thousands will be planted here,
19:27creating an important woodland habitat.
19:29This is wonderful.
19:30So many young people here
19:31to inspire the next generation.
19:33It's definitely a nice legacy
19:35for David on his birthday.
19:40Honestly, so incredible
19:41seeing the next generation
19:43being inspired by Sir David.
19:45And you can see more of that film
19:46on Thursday's One Show.
19:48Now, from Attenborough
19:49to Agatha Christie now,
19:50because Ardell here
19:51is bringing us
19:52a brand new murder mystery novel.
19:54Now, Ardell,
19:54you've always been fascinated
19:55by whodunits
19:56from a very early age,
19:57haven't you?
19:58Yeah, I was reading
19:59Agatha Christie
20:00at the age of seven or eight.
20:01I used to read
20:01the local newspaper
20:02and the first page
20:04I would go to
20:04would be the court reports.
20:05Of course, obviously.
20:07As you do.
20:08Yeah, I'm fascinated by that,
20:09by violence and murder.
20:11Yeah.
20:11From a very early age,
20:12read all of Sherlock Holmes,
20:14all of that kind of stuff,
20:14Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew.
20:16So I've always been interested in it.
20:18And then, of course,
20:19I did Death in Paradise.
20:21I solved 25 murders
20:24over the course of a few years.
20:26So I was very familiar
20:27with the genre.
20:28And I suppose it was
20:29when I was kind of doing that
20:30that I possibly had the idea
20:32for us to write
20:32a proper detective novel.
20:34I'd written two novels previously,
20:35but there were more
20:36general fiction, I suppose.
20:38One was a coming-of-age one.
20:40And so I really wanted
20:41to turn my hand
20:42to an ingenious murder mystery.
20:46And I have this gardener,
20:47this fellow called Finn O'Leary,
20:48who's a celebrity gardener
20:49in England,
20:50and he comes back
20:51to his hometown
20:52and he gets involved
20:53in solving murders.
20:55Yeah.
20:55I was going to say,
20:56so this is all, you know,
20:57all within his hometown
20:59that he goes back to
21:00and he's moving back
21:01with his mum, right?
21:02That's right.
21:03So he's at a bit of a loose end
21:04in his life.
21:05Marriage is not great.
21:06His career is maybe
21:07stagnating a little bit.
21:09He's very uncomfortable
21:10with his modest amount of fame.
21:13Right.
21:13And his mother's not well.
21:15She's had an accident.
21:15So he comes back
21:16to help with her care.
21:18And very early in the novel,
21:20he brings her to choir practice
21:21and somebody drops dead
21:23during What the World Needs Now.
21:25Gosh.
21:27We shouldn't laugh,
21:28but I get the irony, yes.
21:30As they do, as they do.
21:32And he's reluctant.
21:34I mean, he wants time out.
21:35He wants to care for his mother.
21:36He wants to reconnect
21:37with his hometown.
21:38There's a big theme in the novel.
21:39Like, it's about home.
21:40What does home mean?
21:41Yeah.
21:41Family, community,
21:42all those lovely things.
21:44You know, and as well as him
21:45trying to deal with
21:46this notion of fame.
21:48But it is,
21:49I think it's a funny
21:49murder mystery, you know,
21:50with a lot of heart
21:52and a few thrills
21:53and even a tiny bit of romance.
21:55Like, I've changed
21:55as a person.
21:57Well, the plot does actually
21:59revolve around
21:59Tidy Towns,
22:00the competition,
22:01which is a very real thing.
22:03I see Philippa nodding.
22:04It's a very real thing
22:05in Ireland.
22:06And he's back to locals
22:07to help you research.
22:08Well, I just can't stress to you
22:09how important Tidy Towns is.
22:11Every town and village,
22:12even city and hamlet,
22:14like, you know,
22:15they're fanatical
22:16about Tidy Towns.
22:17There's this great sense of place
22:18and pride in your home,
22:20in your home place,
22:20as I'm sure there is in Britain.
22:22But it's not just about
22:23litter collection
22:24or planting
22:26or anything like that.
22:27It's about restoring
22:28old buildings.
22:29It's about
22:31biodiversity,
22:32promoting that.
22:33It's about inclusion,
22:34getting everyone involved,
22:35participation,
22:37you know,
22:38asylum seekers,
22:39schools,
22:39everyone's involved.
22:40So it's a binding force
22:42for communities.
22:42And there's fierce rivalries
22:44with neighbouring towns.
22:45So there's a lovely little
22:46subplot in this book
22:47where there's sabotage.
22:49It's a nice way
22:49to put it in.
22:50Ardo, obviously,
22:51you mentioned
22:52Death in Paradise.
22:53You play D.I.
22:54Jack Mooney,
22:55of course.
22:56And as you say,
22:56it was doing stuff like that
22:58that really inspired you
22:59to get onto this book.
23:01Yeah, it was.
23:01Like, I mean,
23:02so, you know,
23:03I did 24 episodes.
23:05It must have been,
23:06like, easily 30 murders.
23:08Like, I didn't even have
23:09to read the script.
23:09I knew who did it.
23:10But, you know,
23:11after a while.
23:13And when I was there,
23:14I was always thinking,
23:15like, I was always trying
23:15to drum up,
23:16dream up,
23:18imaginative kind of murders.
23:19Like, you know,
23:20because with the best will
23:21in the world,
23:21like, I love the show
23:22you were in, Samuel,
23:23as well.
23:23I remember at one stage.
23:25And, like, you know,
23:27you would be thinking to yourself,
23:29have we not done
23:29this plot before?
23:31Yeah.
23:31You know,
23:33someone falling off
23:33a balcony again?
23:35But,
23:37so, you know,
23:38I was always trying
23:39to think of, like,
23:40you know,
23:40if I was writing an episode,
23:41what would be my murder?
23:42So, at that time,
23:43and my first thought,
23:44by the way,
23:44for a detective was,
23:47this is a show,
23:48my lack of imagination,
23:49it was an actor
23:50playing a detective
23:51on a detective show
23:52in the Caribbean
23:53when a real murder
23:54happens on the set.
23:56And he ends up
23:57investigating it.
23:58So, but I thought
23:58that was a bit too
23:59close to home.
24:00And, in fact,
24:01I think there was a show
24:02called Death Valley
24:02last year,
24:03which is kind of
24:04a similar idea.
24:04So, I'm glad I didn't
24:05pursue that idea.
24:06So, I thought, like,
24:08him being a gardener
24:09gives you that kind of
24:09degree of separation,
24:10I guess,
24:11where you can write
24:11from your own experience
24:12to some extent,
24:13but, you know,
24:14you have plausible
24:14deniability.
24:15Well, the good thing
24:16as well is that
24:17when you write something
24:18and it's successful,
24:19fans love it,
24:20then all of a sudden
24:21you're into a TV show
24:22slash film,
24:23and you have certain
24:24actors in mind.
24:25And I understand,
24:27in particular,
24:27you have a question
24:29for Philippa.
24:29Yes.
24:31I mean, you know,
24:32there's no guarantee,
24:33obviously,
24:34that this will ever be made.
24:35But, Philippa,
24:37I mean, seriously.
24:40There is a character
24:41in this novel
24:42called Aoife.
24:43She's a leading character.
24:45She's a leading light
24:45in the Tidy Towns effort,
24:47actually.
24:47And she's an old friend
24:48of Finn's.
24:49I think you'd be perfect
24:49for the part.
24:50Yes, Ardwell.
24:51Yes.
24:52Yes.
24:53Oh, it's a yes!
24:55Yes.
24:55I might have
24:57get the show
24:57over the line
24:58with the broadcaster.
24:59Didn't you just talk
24:59about a gardener
25:00that had a difficult marriage?
25:01It sounds like Mel.
25:03Can I get a job too?
25:04Yes.
25:05Maybe you should all get one.
25:06Don't worry,
25:07Samuel,
25:08I'll look after you as well.
25:10Don't worry,
25:10we'll find something.
25:11Oh, fantastic.
25:12Well, Ardwell's book,
25:13A Plot to Die For,
25:14is out on Thursday.
25:17We've had so many
25:17wonderful comments.
25:18Jen has said,
25:19I love everything
25:21that Ardwell has been in,
25:22but favourite show,
25:24of course,
25:24of his was My Hero.
25:26He's absolutely brilliant
25:28in that.
25:29Yeah,
25:29and one for Samuel
25:30and Philippa as well.
25:31Milo says,
25:32I'm such a big fan
25:33of Amanda Land
25:33and I cannot wait
25:34to see the new series.
25:36It's going to be amazing.
25:38Yes.
25:38Well,
25:39that is it for tonight.
25:41Thank you so much
25:42to all of our guests.
25:43Yeah,
25:43tomorrow,
25:43Alex and I
25:44will be joined
25:44by comedian
25:45Jason Manford,
25:46West End star
25:47Marisha Wallace,
25:47plus Yellowstone actor
25:49Kelly Riley.
25:50Have a fantastic evening.
25:51Bye.
25:51See ya.
25:52Bye.
25:55Bye.
25:56Bye.
25:58Bye.
25:59Bye.
26:00Bye.
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26:01Bye.
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