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The One Show - Season 21 - Episode 61
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00:11hello and welcome to your tuesday one show live on bbc one and i play out with lauren
00:16and jb gill lots coming up tonight including an award-winning singer who supported taylor swift
00:23she's going to be joined on this sofa by not one but two former stars of the traitors yes celebrity
00:29traitors faithful lucy beaumont is hitting the road for a brand new comedy tour she'll be telling us
00:35how awkward quiz show moments inspired her latest show and lifting the lid on how she once invented
00:40a popular italian dish yeah or at least she thought so at the time and fresh from his trip to
00:46italy we've
00:46got traitors winner harry clark who's been on his best behavior while on a mission to meet the pope
00:52for a brand new bbc documentary later on he's going to be exclusively revealing whether his pilgrimage
00:58to rome was a success can't wait to find out and closer to home we are looking at a brand
01:03new
01:03pilgrim trail in yorkshire that's sending locals on a spiritual journey of their own kevin doyle has
01:08been chatting to pilgrims about their personal reasons for traveling the 40 mile route in the
01:13stunning north york moors oh stunning's the word it really is beautiful that one also tonight ahead of
01:19the release of her brilliant new album we're joined by a singer whose music's been streamed more than half
01:24a billion times yes brit award winner holly humberston is going to be telling us how it felt
01:29to be handpicked by taylor swift to support her on her era's tour so amazing and we love hearing from
01:36you so if you've got a question or comment on anything in tonight's show then do get in touch
01:40on whatsapp 030 123 1700 on socials or on email yes please but first tonight we're going to be shining
01:47a light on a subject that's never far from the headlines that is homelessness there are currently record
01:53numbers of rough sleepers across the uk as well as more and more families living in temporary
01:58accommodation mina shannon's been to manchester to see how the community there has come together
02:03to not only help people get off the street but also give them back their independence
02:10chris has been sleeping rough on and off since he was 13 one of hundreds of thousands experiencing
02:16homelessness across britain it really does affect your mental health so you've got nowhere where it's warm
02:21and just totally cut you up inside manchester has a large homeless population many living beneath the
02:29city's growing skyline of new apartment blocks but now a new project isn't just getting people off the
02:36streets it's preparing them for independent living but the biggest difference here is that the community
02:43itself came together to build it this is embassy village believed to be the uk's biggest purpose-built
02:51site for rough sleepers 40 homes under the rail arches with shared areas for meals training and support
02:59it's run by charity director sid williams there's been about 130 different local businesses some trust funds
03:07churches all piling and helping us out with funding and people and time and building materials to get
03:14to this point it's not just about you know getting people at home it's much more than that isn't it
03:19we really want to see transformation in people's lives what embassy village is doing is creating that
03:23scenario where no you are responsible for your own home but in a community and a supportive community
03:28where it's compulsory to learn to shop and cook and budget and get into work this is a dress rehearsal
03:33for
03:33managing a home for managing your finances paying a small amount of rent means residents can get a
03:40landlord's reference for when they move on that's what i'm excited about is seeing people's lives turned
03:45around has there been any pushback with any of the neighbors or anything like that the concerns were
03:50is it going to be dangerous criminals so when we're able to go oh no that's not who we work
03:54with
03:54most people then were like oh that's fine then peel waters has provided the land to be used as a
04:00homeless village on a 125 year lease the idea for the project originally came from managing director
04:08james whittaker all these businesses work free of charge i reckon it was probably in terms of time
04:15spent over two million pounds at least that was given by the business community to make this happen
04:20it's the whole business community of manchester coming together and seeing it through some of the
04:26local businesses who helped are here today we provide town planning advice to normally developers
04:32investors landowners but we've in on this occasion been providing free town planning advice to assist
04:38with the delivery of the scheme and it's it's brilliant to see it here and you know people moving
04:42in we've supplied all the beds as a donation yeah this one included very comfy yeah we're a third
04:51generation family business and we have we had a store in in salford as well where we would see
04:56homeless people on the streets and it was uh yeah heartbreaking really for them to see in and
05:04what was what was there everything here from your bed to your kitchen which is state-of-the-art
05:11to a startup kit with tea bags and biscuits has been donated by businesses across the region
05:19everything is in place for chris who today is moving in welcome to mc village and here you are
05:25i've got the keys for your apartment brilliant and he's the first resident to pick up his keys chris
05:32how exciting is it getting the keys to your place i would prove now i've been given another chance just
05:39looking forward yeah to the future and see what it brings and with the help with the guys and it's
05:44looking it's looking good yeah sid's charity started helping the homeless back in 2019 by converting a
05:52former coldplay tour bus into a mobile shelter today he hopes to help hundreds more rebuild their lives
05:59supported by local businesses offering jobs i think employment's a really important piece because
06:04people are discovering a community with their colleagues at work and so on they've got other
06:09communities by the time they leave us what are you most proud of sam's in here right now i think
06:14the team has worked unbelievably hard to get this done both volunteers and paid member staff trustees
06:20it's pretty humbling this is a community coming together businesses councils and volunteers
06:27all proving that when people pull in the same direction lives can change
06:36such a brilliant initiative there thank you mina yeah wonderful idea and seeing everybody
06:41pulled together and of course we wish chris the best of luck with everything all right time now to
06:46introduce tonight's guests we've got comedian lucy beaumont traitors winner harry clark and musician
06:52holly humberston welcome welcome guys now harry we just saw another traitors star there in mina is it
06:59fair to say there's a good camaraderie between all the traitor stars from the different series yeah
07:04definitely i mean i can feel lucy getting further and further away because she doesn't want to be
07:09sat next to me does she but no i say it's just like school you know when you leave school
07:12you
07:12have these groups of friends them little gangs and when we come together for an event or something
07:16we're all just like best friends so it's great yeah yeah lucy i mean harry's probably right there
07:20because you were faithful all the way obviously harry one of the best traitors we've had
07:24definitely but you were murdered face to face weren't you so how do you feel sitting next to harry
07:29i don't go to any events with harry no i don't i stay with no i took it really personally
07:36it's it's unbelievable but you did you you must your feet you must feel awful i did at the time
07:41but
07:41then it was like once i won it was just reminding myself what who i was there for
07:47i've had a lot of practice with that answer no redemption here holly you must be very excited to
07:52be sat alongside these two because you're a massive traitors fan aren't you i am i'm not gonna lie
07:57yeah i love traitors so i'm keeping my cool um big fan of you both you might do the celebrity
08:03one
08:03i bet yeah i think i'd be a bit hopeless to be honest like yeah i mean huge respect to
08:09the both
08:09of you i feel like i'm a terrible liar i could never be a a traitor and i feel like
08:15i act suspicious even if
08:17i'm so i don't know i think i'd be one of the first to go um that might be a
08:22double
08:22blood exactly but also dream to watch from our point of view as viewers i would enjoy that um
08:27well listen it's not just uh celebrity traitors that lucy's starred in in the past few years
08:33alongside her comedy she's been on numerous quiz shows from the weakest link to house of games
08:37but the results didn't exactly go to plan and that is exactly the inspiration behind her brand
08:43new stand-up tour which celebrates her quiz show fails and before we find out more let's take a
08:48quick look at lucy on celebrity mastermind answering questions on a specialist subject les dawson oh god
08:54in 1973 dawson made his royal variety performance debut and was greeted with great acclaim despite
09:00being very nervous at having to follow lynn seymour and which ballet dancer on the bill
09:05pass on dawson's second appearance as the subject of this is your life in 1992
09:10he was surprised by the presenter michael aspel at the curtain call of what pantomime at the
09:15theatre royal in plymouth pass dawson's first novel published in 1974 and based on his own
09:22escapades on the comedy circuit is entitled a card for the what
09:27pass
09:31i couldn't stop saying pass there was one or two are new but i'd got in a rhythm i couldn't
09:36stop
09:37do you know what it's one of those things when you do those shows you actually
09:40can't get yourself out of your head sometimes can you oh it got worse it got it got it got
09:45really
09:46bad but he's like my idol les dawson and i got in touch with his daughter and everything but
09:52it i don't think you're allowed to say but they said well read his autobiography because we'll
09:57ask you questions in that and then i thought oh i'll read it the night before i do the show
10:02because then it'll all be in my head but i fell asleep on page three no they didn't ask me
10:07anything
10:08up until i could have told like where he was born but they asked after i said i just haven't
10:15got to
10:16that part of the book yet lucy you'd also when we were watching that clip you looked genuinely
10:20traumatized i was traumatized but do you know like because it's an empty studio but i heard laughing
10:26coming from behind a wall somewhere else it's awful oh no it felt like a dream though you know and
10:33i was
10:33like and then you know when you go uh i was in my head i was thinking i don't think
10:37anyone watches
10:38mastermind anymore and then they say it's going to be on christmas day or christmas eve oh my god
10:43it was my granddad that was because my granddad was like can you stop doing these shows because
10:48i live in a cul-de-sac and i can't get away from the neighbors well look unfortunately for you
10:52mastermind is absolutely massive especially on christmas eve um but this has all worked out fine
10:58because you've taken inspiration from this and some other quiz shows that you've been on where
11:02things didn't work out as you'd hoped what kind of thing what what haven't wasn't what hasn't worked
11:09out house of games which show which shows none of them have worked out the weakest link i spent
11:16longer traveling than i was in the studio i was in the studio 25 minutes and it took three and
11:23a half
11:23hours to get down there the the it's just been a nightmare and well they keep asking me to do
11:28it
11:28and in my head i think this time the the um the wheel er 98 000 pounds you lost someone
11:3798 000 yeah
11:38and then the seven second time 75 000 just because i didn't know about foxes
11:46harry on a brighter note you've been on the weakest link and did quite well didn't you yeah i know
11:50i i actually shocked myself to be fair i thought i was going to be a goner as soon as
11:54i went in there
11:54and i actually did really well i got halfway through then i got a question on salad and i
11:58was just like hey does it look like i eat salad and it was about a salad dressing and i'm
12:03not a chef
12:04i just survive off chicken nuggets and chips by the way so that's why i struggle with that one
12:07and then just because i got that wrong obviously it's a team game everyone just voted me out and
12:11i was like oh cheers i guess i deserve that one but still yeah i did shock myself there how
12:15far i got
12:15you're not better about it though no no definitely not still don't even know any salad dressings either
12:22choose not to learn them now i was gonna say there's still time now lisi back to touring
12:26you're going to be gigging all over the uk do you notice a difference when you're gigging in different
12:31regions no no you know because there used to be like a thing about saying like the north south divide
12:37or like you know like like northerners like what no it's it was lovely the last time it was the
12:43same
12:44everywhere you go it's like people like really look forward to like you know because people know who you
12:49are now because when you start out you sort of prove yourself and now it feels like you're just
12:54like in a room full of friends you know the best show for me was guildford so yeah it just
13:00it's the
13:00same i think everyone like now everyone like genuinely wants a laugh like you need it don't you
13:07yes exactly especially these days and you know you also talk about uh the previous jobs that you've
13:12had including working at a pizza counter when you thought you'd invented a famous dish
13:17yeah um i worked at the supermarket they put me do you know um it's like where you pick your
13:23own
13:24toppings do you know and like so you put it on a you don't want a long-winded version of
13:29this do you
13:29but you put it on like a plinth you know to put the shrink wrap over it but because like
13:34some of the
13:34customers bullied me into putting too many toppings it used to like collapse and so i used to fold the
13:40pizzas over so none of the managers knew how much toppings i was putting on it and then i finally
13:46saved up enough money to go to italy with my friends and everyone was eating calzones and i
13:52thought how was it how was it caught on this quick i honestly thought i'd invented folded pizzas
13:59so yeah brilliant what do you mean before your time i know it blew my mind brilliant excellent well
14:09tickets for lucy's tour bad at quiz shows good with weirdos are available right now still to come holly's
14:14going to be telling us what it was like to play to 90 000 people at wembley stadium amazing plus
14:19it
14:19will be exclusively revealing if harry was successful on his mission to get an audience with the pope as
14:25part of his new documentary but first with easter just days away kevin dewall has been to meet a
14:30group of people who've been on a spiritual quest of their own on a new pilgrim trail in yorkshire
14:38to mark lent visitors are gathering in the north york moors for a trail that culminates at the
14:45stunning revo abbey going for a long walk in the beautiful countryside is undoubtedly good for you
14:51but you know some people might just want to get more from it that's what pilgrims are looking for
14:57today from the saint elred's trail it has three routes mapped out one for walkers one for cyclists
15:04and one for horseback riders taken in nine churches along the way we're starting at old island i think
15:10it's great to be out and sort of have a reason to be out in nature it gives it a
15:15purpose it's a great
15:17thing to have the the trail it brings together everybody the pilgrimage was the idea of george
15:24and malgate after a walk they took to revo abbey in 2009 the very first time you you you came
15:31through
15:31and revo abbey was was in front of you what was that feeling like didn't know what to expect really
15:35um it was fantastic the grandeur was just more inspiring yes but something kicked off at that point
15:42and uh it kind of transformed our lives in a way on the spot they decided to move here and
15:48george
15:49realized he was on a spiritual journey too the pilgrimage had become about me as well and my
15:54own spiritual journey about rediscovering my faith and then we started going to church and creating the
16:00trail is very much about me with god um and giving an opportunity for other people to find that experience
16:07as well they named their trail after saint elred of revo a 12th century monk who lived at the abbey
16:13mal
16:14and local farmer joyce garbert walked miles of public footpaths to devise the best walking trail
16:20it stretches for 41 miles you've got fabulous views but it's steep hills horse riding and cycling routes
16:27were then added john andrew and their mates are following the 36 mile bike pilgrimage it's going to
16:33take about five hours i would think today and whether you're spiritual with a capital s or spiritual
16:39with a a small s which is just a great opportunity to get together with some like-minded friends and
16:46you know cycle what is just a gorgeous trail back on the walking route the first stop is scorton
16:52what made you want to come on the pilgrimages in the first place there is something so kind of analog
16:57about going back to a pilgrimage and meeting people and connecting in a really meaningful way
17:02without having to jump on your phone bill tate is guiding the 50 mile horseback pilgrimage today
17:08this is amigo and he's taken me safely hundreds of miles all over these moors in the past people
17:17would travel on horseback or on foot and they'd be visiting places like revo best views are always from
17:23the back of a horse across all the trails there are over 120 pilgrims today and george is impressed by
17:30the
17:31turnout did you ever thought you'd be be a daylight today not in my wildest dreams and it just grows
17:38i mean it's growing this is this is bigger than last year um and um i'm just worrying about next
17:44year now kevin this annual lent pilgrimage has attracted people from far afield bishop andrew rumsey
17:52has come from wiltshire to take part we're in the season of lent and everybody together is walking
17:58towards easter i've made some fascinating connections already today and i think sometimes you discover
18:04those kinds of depths while you're walking together when you're on the same path uh you you discover
18:11relationship but personally for you then why are you here originally i i came on this pilgrimage
18:16because i wanted to see revo abbey before long the cyclists have done their 36 miles it makes you really
18:23uh appreciate what's important and especially when you're doing it with family and friends brilliant
18:30after our long journey we all converge on the abbey itself where we're welcomed in true yorkshire fashion
18:37by the billsdale silver band
18:42seeing the the abbey across the valley it was spectacular it's actually been really special i
18:49wouldn't like go home and think about things it just captured the essence of
18:53what we what we what i hope the st helen's pilgrim trail is about
18:59i mean such a beautiful backdrop
19:02i need to go and visit that i'll be i was straight on the national trust website when
19:06i heard about that all over it uh now harry i'm sure that that film will resonate with you because
19:12you've been on a pilgrimage too but on yours you were trying to meet the pope so take us back
19:17on all
19:18of this how did it come about it's the craziest story actually i'll try and keep it short but
19:22and sweet but it was literally from the pilgrimage i went on before that so i went on bbc uh
19:28pilgrimage
19:28where we traveled through the alps and austria and we were actually sat in a pilgrim hostess's
19:33little cabin there was donkeys walking around and that cockerel's walking through and there was this
19:38lovely german woman who couldn't speak a word of english anyway we'd finished filming i got the google
19:42translate out trusty google translate she basically said to us look in winter time this is covered in snow
19:47so all the food drink everything needs to be gone from the farm so she said i've got you a
19:52present
19:52she walks in with these homebrewed two cases of beer and i was like lovely and i'm sat there next
19:57to tom which is a producer at ctvc which i made this new show with and we're there we tried
20:03these
20:03homebrew beers and they went down swell as you can imagine we're just chatting to each other and again
20:06i've got loads of ideas firing out my ears my nose my mouth i mean i don't know why i
20:11didn't start
20:11with my mouth but they're just firing out as you can tell and i'm sat there and i'm speaking to
20:15him
20:15and he's like what do you want to do next i'm like mate i could do this i could do
20:18that and he's
20:18like yeah but as a catholic what do you want to do next and at that point in my life
20:22the pilgrimage
20:22that one through austria and switzerland had deepened my faith massively but i thought i was
20:27still a modern catholic i didn't believe the historical values of the church didn't necessarily
20:32believe in the bible i thought the church was within i don't need to go every sunday to prove
20:35i'm a catholic so i said you know what i'll just go to rome and ask the pope all these
20:39questions
20:39and he's gone yeah all right mate yeah yeah and i've gone now i would if someone if someone wanted
20:43to take the shot at it and then that was the start of the idea yeah well yes you can
20:47probably
20:47tell from his excitement in ari's new documentary he's relentless in his pursuit to get an audience
20:53with the pope to discuss what it means to be a catholic today so let's have a little look
20:57at what we can expect hello i have a crazy question actually do you reckon it's possible
21:02for me to meet the pope at all um i've not been to confession for so long between six to
21:09ten years
21:09if you've done anything which is what we call a mortal sin you need sacramental confession
21:16i don't want to read it i don't want to read it who's it from i just had a message
21:20from someone
21:20from the back i'm literally like shaking i mean the stress of waiting for the vatican to text you
21:30back i can't even imagine but as we saw there you know lots of obstacles in your way a lot
21:34of dead
21:34ends that you reached but you did have someone with you for moral support and that was your mom
21:39why was it important for you to have him i mean firstly shout out to the most important woman in
21:44my life my mom it's her birthday today yeah happy birthday mom we loved you um she she was just
21:50like the rock she's the rock for everyone who knows her and she especially in my faith journey
21:54you know i only had faith because my mom made me go to church as a kid and i didn't
21:59want to
21:59disappoint her so growing up it was always i'm a catholic because of my mom and then when i went
22:04through a hard time with my own mental health issues being in the army when i was around 20
22:08it was funny because i remember i literally went to my mom and i was sat there i put my
22:12hands up and
22:12i said look mom i've used up all my resources i feel like a burden on you the family she
22:17just simply
22:17went to me harry what's the one thing you know how to do just start praying again and then that
22:21moment
22:21there was basically what saved my life so yeah i couldn't thank enough and i couldn't have asked for a
22:27better travel partner either yeah i mean it's an amazing thing isn't it it's such a turning point
22:30in the past oh sorry to butt in no so she's got five other kids so i wanted to be
22:34the favorite
22:36we can go with the first one but secondly also i do want to be favorite and i've hopefully now
22:41i'm for at least a year that as well it's gonna be hard to chop i know exactly well listen
22:46harry you
22:46got put us out of our misery did you manage to get the meeting yes or no i don't know
22:51drum roll please
22:51i mean i should probably give a disclaimer i'm not lying when i say this but yes
22:55i met pope leo the 14th and it was insane we had a private meeting in his office as well
23:02so it
23:02wasn't just like a he walked past me and i got his eye eye eyesight and was like yeah yeah
23:07yeah
23:07no like we had an actual meeting in his office for about half an hour half an hour yeah he
23:12invited me
23:12to stay so imagine we meet first and we're there and i'm like oh my gosh i'm meeting the pope
23:17you
23:17know like this is insane and then we get speaking and he gives me a gift i give him a
23:22gift which is
23:23the best gift in the world what did you give him i gave him a chelsea home kit shirt with
23:26pope leo
23:26on the back i just thought if i could give him anything that's me what is me and that that's
23:32just
23:32me to a t you know there's two the most important things in my life and my faith my family
23:37but also
23:38chelsea yeah so it just worked perfectly and then yeah he said to me at the end of that little
23:43meeting do you have five minutes i'm looking around going do i have five minutes i mean i've got all
23:47day if you want
23:48yeah let me check my diary do you know i mean see if we if i've got five minutes and
23:51then he was like
23:51come and join me in my office and bring whoever you want but he was so chilled the whole time
23:56and
23:56he was like yeah bring your mom bring johnny the director i'm like this is crazy and it just blew
24:01my
24:01mind how humble and how much of an amazing person he was and did he give you a blessing in
24:05all of that
24:06yeah of course yeah he gave us blessing funny enough i know you probably won't believe this i don't
24:09even think anyone's going to believe it because even my mum said that's a what people say this is ai
24:13i'm
24:14like i don't care anyway because i got to meet him and i actually asked if i could pray for
24:17him
24:18so when we're in the office because i just thought that's your job you pray for everyone all the time
24:22but how many times a day does someone pray for you or say it out loud he let me pray
24:26for him and then
24:26i did that in front of my mum and johnny and we're there and we got to speak about everything
24:30and i think
24:31the first initial thing that blew me off like my chair was that when we sat down he started speaking
24:36to me about mental health and i was like wow because i that was something i'd been through you know
24:42and
24:42you also expect the pope to have that faith pattern you know that hits you over the head and says
24:46god is the answer god is everything you need god in your life and he said look harry we have
24:50a
24:50problem and i want to try to fix it and i think people need to realize that whether you have
24:53god in your
24:54life or not life is worth living and that's the most important thing and that was just really the
24:58moment where i was like wow this is the most humble nicest human being i've ever sat across
25:04well i mean honestly it's so profound hearing you speak like that and uh you can all watch harry clark
25:10goes to
25:10rome on thursday night at 10 40 on bbc one and iplayer now it's been a big few years for
25:16holly
25:16here since winning the rising star award at the brits in 2022 she's gone on to tour with the likes
25:21of taylor swift sam fender and olivia rodrigo to name but three her songs have racked up over half a
25:27billion streams online too and now she's getting ready to play some big gigs of her own over the
25:33summer holly this is such an exciting time so you've been making music since you were very little but i
25:39know
25:39that it was actually your local radio station and they're introducing show bbc um radio nottingham
25:45that gave you your first break what happened i mean i have i have a lot to owe to um
25:50dean jackson i feel
25:51like is the icon of the the east midlands um but yeah i i started making music when i was
25:56really young
25:57just kind of at home i grew up in quite a creative household and um yeah i would just kind
26:04of make demos
26:05on my on my dad's laptop and i uploaded uh like kind of a crazy rubbish song to um to
26:13bbc introducing
26:14um which is like an amazing platform for kind of um for people who want to be discovered and um
26:21yeah
26:22they were just like really really lovely and really supportive and had me in to do like a a live
26:27session
26:28on the bbc which was amazing and it's kind of just kind of gone from there yeah um yeah definitely
26:34gone because those songs have certainly improved uh and a massive fan of yours is none other than
26:39taylor swift she actually chose you to go on her eras tour with her didn't she yeah she did i
26:44mean i
26:44peaked in august 24. big time for me yeah uh yeah it was amazing like obviously just so cool to
26:54be
26:55championed by somebody like taylor swift who i've grown up idolizing and yeah so cool dream come true
27:01well fans like taylor are in for a treat as holly is about to release new music so let's take
27:06a listen
27:06listen to the title track from her latest album cruel world
27:09it's a cruel world
27:13where the truth baby
27:18it's a cruel world
27:22sugar don't you be running away for long please
27:27let's get your movie and get caught in the rain
27:31where you are
27:43beautiful just can't get enough of a gal with a sword it's my kind of thing
27:46cool um so holly lots of love coming in for you for example emily and eva say we're currently on
27:53our
27:5320th show of holly's tour we are so excited for the new album she means so much to us i
27:59love those
27:59girls tell us a little bit about what they've got uh coming up because you say that this album's a
28:04reflection for you of how far you've come yeah i mean i feel like i've learned a lot about myself
28:09through just the writing process and the creation process and i feel like not a lot of artists are
28:16afforded just time and space to to figure out who they are as people you know like let alone let
28:22alone
28:22artists and i've had like the most fun kind of on tour getting to play shows with my band who
28:27have
28:27become like my family and yeah i just i wanted to make an album that that felt yeah like a
28:34like
28:34a band and um i have lots to to kind of celebrate and so much love in my life and
28:40um i'm really really
28:42proud of of this next chapter and excited to get to to share it and feel incredibly lucky to get
28:47to
28:47do this as a job um so yeah well you should be i mean you've got some massive gigs on
28:53the horizon as well
28:54you're going to be in coachella in california coming up and obviously hyde park as well in the summer
28:58so how are you looking forward to those i'm so excited yeah i mean yeah i've i've been at home
29:05for the past year and a half like here in london just writing and making this music and my favorite
29:11thing in the world is being on stage and getting to connect with people in in real time and yeah
29:17have
29:17those like shared experiences that make you feel human and i think that's kind of what music is all about
29:22and yeah that's why i love to do it just getting to connect with people and i'm i'm so excited
29:27to
29:27get to to get to travel and yeah it's it's great i can't complain i'm so excited yeah yeah oh
29:35well
29:35holly's album cruel world is out on the 10th of april uh well we've had lots of lovely messages
29:41including this for lucy from glenn who says i thought lucy was brilliant in her recent play road
29:46in manchester would love to see her doing more acting that's all we've got time for tonight
29:51thank you to our wonderful guests yes i'll be here tomorrow with angelica and we're joined by
29:54matt tebbett and joel dummett plus matt's here with watchdog have a lovely evening bye
29:58bye
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