00:00Quite a start for Brian Baio yesterday, Curtis.
00:03What are they doing?
00:05So he's on his way to Worcester, which is probably too good for him.
00:10But I don't understand that dude's story.
00:15And, you know, if Ken Laird ever says baby Pedro on this radio station again,
00:21I will lose it because he is nothing like Pedro Martinez.
00:26But isn't this the greatest example of this team where it's like,
00:30something finally works.
00:32And, yes, it's not the normal way to go about things.
00:35And, yes, we all want Brian Baio, if he's at his best,
00:38to begin the game in the first inning.
00:40However, this team, we're told, is desperate for wins.
00:44They're trying to win a series at home against the Orioles.
00:47Would that have been back-to-back series wins?
00:49Because they won't.
00:50I think they won.
00:51Yes.
00:51So it would have been at least some semblance of momentum
00:53after Peyton Tolley was spectacular.
00:56And before you get into your seat, the traffic around there was off.
01:00Like, the day-game traffic around Fedway, just a non sequitur, is atrocious.
01:04But you finally get into your seat, and you're down 6-0 or whatever it was.
01:08And you just are trying to out-think everything.
01:14Just try it for a bit.
01:16It's clear.
01:16And then they just say they're basically punishing him.
01:19They're like, we're not going to even get a guy up in the pen.
01:21In the first inning, there were six runs.
01:22Nobody even got up in the bullpen.
01:24I mean, you serve up six runs in the first inning, you're not going to win that baseball game.
01:31And the fact that he is a guy who is, you know, you set out with him as one of
01:38the high points of the season,
01:39as a starter, and he can't start baseball games?
01:44Like, it's nuts to me.
01:46So now you look at, in Worcester, he and Christian Campbell, that's $125 million of John Henry's money,
01:56which is sitting in Worcester right now, today, this morning.
01:59And those are both extensions that were given out by Breslow.
02:02Those are not things that he inherited when he arrived.
02:04Right.
02:05And you would think that, I mean, we gave him the nickname bullpen bail for a reason.
02:11You come out in the second inning, you don't start the game.
02:14Don't the other analytics tell you that?
02:16But, again, the fact that they're even doing that, whatever, you got to do what you got to do.
02:20You have to do what you have to do.
02:21But, like, also, who wouldn't be successful if, you know, you don't have to start a game.
02:28And oftentimes when you get in there, the Red Sox are already down by a couple runs.
02:34So there's zero pressure when he gets in there in the second inning.
02:38So I don't.
02:39And why not have him go to Worcester?
02:41So let's say they say, we can't continue this.
02:43He's going to be a starter.
02:45We have to try.
02:45We've given him money like he's a starter.
02:47We want him to get back to begin games.
02:49So after the latest start where he pitched well out of the bullpen, send him down to Worcester to start.
02:56And then once he figures out how to start a game in Worcester, you bring him up here.
03:01I need to know what changed.
03:03That's, to me, the biggest mystery.
03:05Yeah.
03:06Because we know that he's always been an emotional guy.
03:09He's very hard on himself.
03:11The post-game interview that he gave through an interpreter yesterday was galling in real time.
03:18And then apparently if you talk to Spanish speakers, they're like, the interpreter was being diplomatic with what he actually
03:27said.
03:27No, I, we're, I shine.
03:28We're going to get to that during they said it, correct?
03:31Am I right about that?
03:31That is correct, Greg.
03:32Yes, absolutely.
03:33He doesn't want the reporters asking questions about certain things.
03:38So, you know.
03:39I think he's done, honestly.
03:41Well, yeah, if he goes down there with Christian Campbell, we'll never see him again.
03:45What happened to Christian Campbell?
03:47Yeah.
03:47You're never to be heard from again.
03:49I think he's done in the sense of, like, he might never recover.
03:54He might never recover and be a starter.
03:55You might just have to move him to the bullpen permanently.
03:59Because he just mentally, for whatever reason, whatever it is, mentally, he can't get over that hump.
04:05So, I don't know.
04:05Does he have the same translator as Breslow, or do they have separate ones?
04:09I don't know.
04:11Yeah, he's a wrap.
04:12Listen, watching that game last night, or yesterday afternoon, I did not see any food in Chad Tracy's teeth.
04:18So, that's a positive.
04:19No romance.
04:20Communication is improving.
04:21That's a positive.
04:22But, it's like, is there no understanding about the mental capacity for players to perform when you're this analytically driven?
04:33Because, I thought the main reason Trace is here is that he knew all these young guys, and that he
04:38was going to be able to communicate with them.
04:40And that they would be able to, Cora tells Rosenthal, this isn't how you should be building a roster.
04:45He gets fired.
04:46The guy that was part of the roster building in AAA with these guys he's now managing at the Big
04:50League Club, they've been worse.
04:52Well, Brezbart said yesterday, when we asked him specifically about the mental part of the game, he said, that's a
04:57big thing that they look into.
04:59You know, they kind of look into, and we know how, you know, baseball players are.
05:03It's so mental with them.
05:04They're like creatures of habit.
05:05They're superstitious.
05:06And I just think when you look at Brian Bale, especially this year, he, for whatever reason, he just can't
05:14start games.
05:14And so, it might, I don't get why you're trying to force that square peg into the round hole.
05:20But did you ever play with somebody who had some mental block that they couldn't overcome?
05:28It's like a special kind of yips.
05:30Yeah.
05:30In the league, it would be with somebody, I never played with him, but in the league, I felt like
05:34Chad Ochoseko got that when he got here to New England.
05:38He couldn't catch a cold to save a life.
05:39He couldn't read a playbook.
05:41No, it wasn't, it was, that was part of it, but because he wasn't able to get the offense down,
05:46he couldn't catch anything.
05:47Because he was thinking so much, and so, you know, it wasn't computing, and then he wasn't able to catch
05:53the football.
05:53So, it's somebody who has the dropsies.
05:55That's the only, when you start to see it, that's the only thing you can kind of think about.
05:59John Casey, Super Bowl 38, kicking it out of bounds.
06:02Is that a mental moment?
06:03I think in that moment, yeah, it's the pressure of where you are.
06:07Because I think prior to that, he might have just kicked a long field goal or something along those lines.
06:14So, he was able to make the field goal, and then doing the thing that you do routinely all the
06:19time, which is, you know, kick the ball off on the kickoff.
06:23You kick it out of bounds.
06:24So, the mental part of the game, we've seen, and we always talk about, I think, you know, one of
06:29the biggest players that we always talk about here in Boston, because he was playing for the Yankees, he chucked
06:35Knobloch, right?
06:35Not being able to throw the ball from second base to first base.
06:39So, but that's what Bale looks like.
06:41And so, if you know that, then why are you even trying to force him into that role?
06:45Well, probably because you're going, well, last time, who we threw in there, Samaniego gave up four runs, too.
06:52So, it's not like that is definitely good.
06:54Yeah, but then Bale went, what, seven innings after that, or six innings?
06:57But it's like, he was all right after that horrible beginning.
07:00You know, it's something about, they can't solve that starting point.
07:04It is, the whole thing is an epic disaster.
07:09Absolute disaster.
07:10And I don't, you guys agree on a Friday morning, the Red Sox are an absolute, yes.
07:17I don't, I don't know how, how long Craig Fresno keeps his job for.
07:22I don't, I mean, I guess nobody else wants a job.
07:25So, what?
07:26He said he wasn't thinking about that yesterday.
07:28Right.
07:28No, he's not.
07:29He said he's fine.
07:30He is not fine.
07:32And I, the reaction to the interview yesterday, I found fascinating, because there is some
07:37in the Boston baseball, I guess, the elite, the elites of the Boston baseball world were
07:44very highbrowing us for how we attacked Craig Fresno.
07:48Why?
07:48Because it was so clear that what, who was pitching about, oh, IKF was talking about the
07:54amount of people, not the analytics.
07:57And I'm like, he was not.
07:59He was not.
08:00But he knows what the, the amount of people whom, like he said, people that we don't
08:05know.
08:06That aren't around with us.
08:07I hate this argument.
08:08People go, oh, it's probably family members.
08:10No, they know the family.
08:13Also, their family members are not down there.
08:15Right.
08:16Prior to the game while they're in, trying to hit the baseball in BP.
08:22No.
08:22And then people go, oh, it's probably because they're going out afterwards.
08:26No, they go home, change, take their car home.
08:30They're not, they're not, it's.
08:31You don't think it's rupees coming out?
08:34I'm serious.
08:35Could it be rupees in the clubhouse?
08:37No, it's the analytics people.
08:39I'm just, I'm just asking what people are getting upset about on the other side.
08:42Yeah, so what, like the beat writers?
08:44Yeah, there was this guy who used to work in a front office named Zach Scott who tweeted
08:48about it.
08:49I saw others.
08:50To me, it's so simple.
08:53What they focus on and what they need to do are two totally separate things and they
08:58don't grasp it.
08:59Like, they need to scrap and win every single game if they want to make anything out of
09:05the season before it's totally over.
09:07And so yesterday, they elected to do something they have known that has failed all year long
09:13and that is start Brian Baio as opposed to changing the starting pitcher and giving him
09:18the second inning through whatever it is, given that that has worked.
09:21Because to them, it's much more important to get the big picture figured out as opposed
09:26to winning today.
09:27And it's awful.
09:28Like, I just, I can't imagine spending 500 bucks, you sit down, and you're down 6-0.
09:33Yeah, this is Chris.
09:35Chris, good morning.
09:37Hey, can I get one of those frappuccinos with the espresso on it, please?
09:42Sure can.
09:42Can we get one, too?
09:44Oh, yeah.
09:46Hey, listen.
09:46Yeah, I was at the game last night in Worcester.
09:49And yeah, what a game.
09:50Good pizza, good time, and Baio's response to all this.
09:55All right, get ready.
09:56Don't judge me because I'm having a bad year.
10:00Yeah.
10:01I mean, that's what we're supposed to do, is judge you.
10:05I don't understand that.
10:07I don't.
10:09We'll get to that during the A-Send.
10:10We have a lot to get to.
10:12All-time quote.
10:13We'll get to that during the A-Send.
10:13We'll get to that during the A-Send.
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