00:00oh boy so we'll continue with the miles garrett stuff he's a ram also uh adam schefter was just
00:08on philadelphia radio he expects aj brown to be dealt today to the patriots so it looks like the
00:15love boat did pay off for diana she did get that story but i would like to confirm something for
00:23you i made a smart ass remark and can we say that oh you know bobby witt jr's war is
00:29probably better
00:30than the entire tigers confirmed uh bobby witt jr's war is 3.4 the tigers as an entire offensive team
00:411.5 how is that possible could you because i added the show the math please no i'm gonna say
00:50like
00:50are they they have that many negative war players um that is correct it's just and they just
00:58listen mcgonagall's got a three think about how ass you gotta be mcgonagall's a three war
01:06riley's a 1.2 that gets you to 4.2 as is they're dragging them down here i mean i
01:13you know it's
01:14just one it it's hard to believe i know that's why it's a crazy stat for you i what do
01:20you want
01:20me to say about it but here hold on that's why you were chuckling in the break i was just
01:26like
01:26because i kind of take a sick pleasure at this point it's so bad all right here dingler's a 1
01:31.6
01:32glaber's a 1.2 mcgonagall's a 3.2 and riley is a 1.2 okay here's how you end up
01:40lower than bobby
01:41with jr torque negative 0.5 oh colt keith negative 0.1 veerling negative 0.8 wind seal
01:50negative 0.9 jami jones negative 0.7 all-star zach mckinstry minus one carp point negative 0.2
02:00hi you lee negative 0.7 jake rogers negative 0.2 zach short zero you are literally zero
02:11broke even okay dude i did the math no it just sounds weird that he an entire team is he's
02:19got
02:19a better war than the entire i just wanted to confirm that i appreciate um so while it is
02:23smart assery it was also accurate we are going to get to the tigers but a lot of people want
02:29to
02:29rap about miles garrett being traded to the rams and it's okay if you're upset and and the one thing
02:35we're not going to do i'm not going to do straw man stuff like this isn't like oh our offseason's
02:42a failure because we didn't get garrett no it's the principle that miles garrett or players like him
02:47will never be detroit lions because this is a cowardly city our gms are not in it to win it
02:55or if they are they're in it to win it in a very specific rigid non-compromising way
03:03the the gms that continue to get their teams to super bowl contention and and to the super
03:08bowl in the nfc john lynch howie roseman john schneider and less need all of them do it the same
03:16way bold swings aggression trades and willing to let go of players that fans are like no no but i
03:26love
03:26this guy right yeah we need to move him if you want to win again so the rams were able
03:30to get garrett
03:30for jared verse a first a second two years from now and a third three years from now
03:36i can't even do a conversation of could the lions have been in this because that can't happen with
03:42without brad picking up the phone he was never doing this i mean think about the arrogance for
03:49brad holmes to walk to the podium oh i guess i paid attention to your mock draft oh you showed
03:54us
03:55drafting derrick moore joke's on you man you don't want to play off game in two years
04:00so the rams are already the super bowl favorites and clearly adding miles garrett across from byron
04:07young is that's 33 sacks yeah they just reinforced it now right so it's the principal not the individual
04:15player uh the other note and we'll mix this in i mean from a tiger standpoint let's just mix them
04:22into the conversation i have nothing to say baseball wise they're vomit but this is now
04:30a question because you you get a lot of people pissed and they start to want to fire people this
04:36is what we do as fans firing people's like an ice cream sundae it doesn't really help you but
04:42sure is tasty in the moment the idea of it is this who do you blame more for this absolute
04:51clown
04:52car that we are watching now 16 or 15 is 16 games under 500 is it scott harris for the
05:00roster
05:00construction or is it aj hinch for doing insane zany analytics things that the numbers don't even
05:08back up shout out cater montero out on 65 pitches and again you can't fire both and i don't think
05:15either guys get fired but what what do we do as fans when our teams are asked we talk about
05:19firing
05:19people you can fire one or none but if you call up and want somebody gone i want to know
05:27why
05:28now do you want to do you want to ruminate on that for a bit no think about that why
05:32don't you think
05:32because i don't want you to say it lightly
05:37i struggle with this because i'm highly biased with both of these people i i am too mike but i
05:45think
05:45i'm leaning if i had to blame one i'm still leaning more towards scott harris aj can only do
05:53so much with what he has if you open up the refrigerator or you open up the cupboards
05:59and all you got are three carrots an egg and a can of potted meat there's only so much you
06:06can do
06:07there's only so much so i can't blame him because it's not like he's out there mismanaging
06:14the dodgers yeah okay this is the tigers we just broke down the fact that one person on the royals
06:23has a better war than the entire team yeah so i cannot blame now was yesterday a bad look for
06:30him
06:30absolutely because i think he's starting to get desperate he's starting to gamble he's starting
06:37to you know how we always tell players you know don't get out of your game there's no such thing
06:43as a you know a 34 point play in football you got you there's you can't you can't go up
06:49to the plate
06:50and knock a 10 run homer in i think aj's gotten to the point now where he's trying to fix
06:55it all in
06:56one game and one move instead of just winning that game he's trying to end this streak and get
07:01this team all the way back well how about you just win this game keep your picture out there but
07:06there's a reason this is a good question is both guys you can make a case for i don't have
07:11a strong
07:11opinion and look when i say i'm biased let me be very clear okay and none of this is personal
07:17i don't
07:18i don't care like in the same way it's not personal if you don't like my presentation of how i
07:24do radio
07:25that's not personal i don't like scott harris's presentation of him the smarminess the comments
07:32even at the end of last year how did a top five offense become bottom five i can't sleep well
07:37because they weren't top five oh all the players will be the same but the team will be different i
07:42i don't that's not for me that's smartest guy in the room stuff that's not personal those are public
07:48comments i do not have to like them just like i do a public radio show people don't have to
07:53like it
07:53that's not personal with with aj and i've separated this i will never love everything about him
08:02based on he cheated he cheated my team out of a world series period i don't have to let that
08:09go
08:09no but in the same sense have i always said is he a good manager he is if you got
08:14rid of him would
08:15he be hired i believe so in 10 minutes but i have to admit my biases to both these guys
08:22if you're forcing me to pick eileen harris because his refusal first of all he sucks at free agency can
08:31we just be real about this comb his free agent signings in his entire time here comb it it's a
08:39disaster now let's go to trades outside of that loronzo trade how many of his trades are actually
08:46any good about last year's trade deadline horrific how about the one two years ago horrific he's
08:52traded for two pitchers who didn't make the roster oh and then had the audacity to basically what was
08:57it on the benetti good times pot or whatever it was well they weren't meant to be here for the
09:01playoffs they were just supposed to to what beer for four weeks and get blown out charlie morton yeah
09:09yeah hey i traded for a dead guy what's his name paul seawald so look eileen harris because again it
09:17is this belief but for for for the sake of the conversation here's the problem with aj how much
09:24data is enough to change your perspective is it 30 games 50 games 80 games 100 games what is the
09:32data
09:33point that gets you out of your binder and into the real world because we've talked about this there
09:38are splits over 162 games over 100 games 50 games 80 games they're not good it's morbid absolutely
09:49morbid so then you you start to ask the question how long are you going to pretend it's jamai jones
09:56from 90 games ago how long are you going to pretend that zach mckinstry or zach short or like rico
10:03he's
10:03still doing things like nothing that's happened in these 60 games or over the last 30 games of 40 games
10:10of last year is real no it's a good point because i'm only just doing this just so people understand
10:14both sides have blame no it's a good point because he's almost under the belief well it's baseball
10:22these guys will you know they'll figure it out that's not how analytics works though find its level
10:27so remember the computer decides it not your feelings right so he would be violating his own principles
10:33there jami jones can't hit lefties this year we're 60 games in why am i taking out cole keith why
10:40am i
10:41look cole keith is arguably the best guy with runners in scoring position you can't keep taking
10:46cole keith out and then develop him carp came back yesterday why am i looking at jami jones
10:54why you got to do it to me khakis
11:04we'll get to the people but if you want to call about miles garrett to the rams we're here for
11:08it
11:08and you can fire one or none tigers edition you pick need a reason and we know they're not getting
11:17fired but this is what we do when your team blows and you're 16 under and you're not making the
11:22playoffs what do i'm gonna do i'm not doing fantasy factory scoobal trades he's not even pitching yet
11:28wake me up later i said the alternative is uh what do you do when you just give up on
11:33this team
11:34at what point does up north start two four eight
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