00:00Quinn, foreman over slain girl, tells of seeing Frank, Atlanta, Georgian, Thursday, May 8, 1913.
00:06L.A. Quinn, foreman of the department of the pencil factory in which Mary Fagan worked,
00:10testified as follows. Q. What is your business? A. Machinist. Q. Did you know Mary Fagan? A. Yes.
00:17Q. What is your department? A. Metal department. Q. What department was she in? A. Same. Q. When
00:22did you see Mary Fagan last? A. The Monday before the murder. Q. Do you know her associates? A.
00:27I know some who talked with her girls. Q. Any boys in that department? A. Henry Smith and John
00:32Ramey. Q. Were they thrown together? A. All were working in the same room. Q. When did you leave
00:36the factory? A. Friday. Q. When were you to return? A. Monday morning. Q. What time did you arise?
00:42Saturday morning. A. 7 a.m. Q. Where did you go? A. My wife and I went uptown and had
00:46baby's picture
00:47made. We left home at 9.30 and got to the photographer's at 10. We then came down White
00:51Hall and stopped in the Globe clothing store and talked to friends and then came on down White
00:55Hall Street and stopped at a meat market. We were there about five minutes. Then we went
01:00to a soda fountain and then home. We reached home at 11.15 and left again at 11.45 and
01:06I
01:06went to a meat market. I went from there to a soda fountain at Benjamin's Pharmacy and bought
01:11two cigars. It was a few moments after 12 then. Then I went to the National Pencil Company.
01:17Q. What did you go for? A. To speak to Mr. Schiff. Q. Did you see Mary Fagan? A. No.
01:23Q. What time was it when you went to the factory? A. About 12.20. Q. Are you sure it
01:29was not after
01:2912 when you left your home? A. Yes. Q. How long were you at the meat market? A. About 10
01:34minutes.
01:34Q. What part of the factory did you go to? A. To the office. Q. Who was there? A. Mr.
01:39Frank. Q.
01:39Anyone else? A. No. Spoke to Frank. Q. What did you say? A. Good morning, Mr. Frank. Q. How long
01:44were
01:44you in there? A. About two minutes. Q. Do you know the exact time? A. It was between 12.15
01:49and 12.30. Q.
01:50Q. Could it have been as late as 12.30? A. No. Q. How do you know? A. I was
01:54at another
01:55place at 12.30. Q. Where did you go then? A. Outside the factory. Q. Whom did you meet?
02:00A. Mr. Malsby. Q. What did he say? A. He said that the girls meaning Mrs. Freeman and
02:04Miss Carinthia Hall were in the restaurant. Q. What restaurant did he mean? A. Busy B-calf
02:09at Hunter and Forsyth Streets. Q. What did you do then? A. I went to the restaurant. Went to
02:14Pool Hall. Then Q. Who was there? A. Miss Hall and Mrs. Freeman. Q. How long were you in the
02:19calf? A. About two minutes they came out with me. Q. Where did they go? A. To Malsby's
02:23to use the phone. Q. Where did you go? A. DeToro Brothers Pool Parlors. Q. What time
02:29was it? A. At 12.30. Q. How long were you there? A. Till 1.15. Q. How long does
02:35it take
02:35you to walk to the factory from your home? A. Between 12 and 15 minutes. Q. Where did you
02:40go when you left the pool room? A. To Atlanta Theater. Describes Frank's attire. Q. Who is
02:44John Rainey? A. I don't know. Only he operates a machine in my department. Q. What time did
02:49you get to the Atlanta Theater? A. About 1.20. Q. How was Frank dressed when you were
02:53in the factory? A. Wore brown suit. Q. Who did you talk to on Sunday? A. Mr. Darley
02:58and Mr. Montague. Q. What time? A. 9.30. Q. Where did you go? A. We took a lantern and
03:03went into the basement. Q. Did you see Frank on Sunday? A. I saw him at Bloomfield Sunday
03:08afternoon. Q. How was he dressed? A. I think he wore a black or a blue suit. Q. What did
03:13he say? A. Nothing except hello. Q. Did you tell any of the officers that you had not been
03:18at the factory since Friday? A. No. Q. You didn't tell Officer Payne? A. No. Q. You didn't
03:24tell Detective Starnes? A. No. Refreshed Frank's memory. Q. How was Frank dressed on Monday?
03:29A. I think he wore a brown suit. Q. What is the name of the white substance kept in the
03:33barrel
03:34in the factory? A. Haskeline. Q. Did you talk to Frank about your being in the office on Saturday?
03:39A. A. I refreshed his memory of my being there. Q. When? A. I don't remember the exact date. It
03:45was
03:46after he had been locked up. Q. How did you refresh his memory? A. We were discussing the supposition
03:52of the girl having never left the factory. I told him why I was there Saturday after the time you
03:57say
03:57Mary Fagan was. He said he remembered me being there but wasn't sure of the time. I told him what
04:02time it was and he said he would tell his lawyers. I told him I did not want to be
04:06drawn into the case
04:07but if it would help him I would do so. Questioned of talk with girl. Q. Were you alone with
04:12Frank
04:12when you talked of this? A. Yes. The witness was questioned closely regarding any conversation
04:17he might have had with Grace Jones, one of the girls working at the factory. He denied having
04:22discussed the murder with her at all or having made the remark that he had not been at the factory
04:27on Saturday. Q. Did you go out to the Coleman's home after the murder? A. Yes. Q. Did you discuss
04:34with them about Frank having fixed the machines? A. No. Q. Is there a man working at the place
04:39named Barrett? A. Yes. Q. Did you tell him you were there on Saturday? A. No. Q. Why was the
04:46first
04:47person you told you had been there on Saturday? A. I told my father I had been there. Q. Did
04:52you ever
04:52tell an officer? A. Yes, Chief Lanford. Q. You said that you had very little to do at the factory
04:57and
04:57came down to see Frank? A. Yes, I was down there three or four hours a day for several days.
05:02tells how he is paid. Q. Did your pay go on while you were here? A. Yes. Q. Have you
05:08been off at
05:08other times? A. Yes. Q. Did you receive full pay? A. Ever since I have been foreman? Q. Do you
05:14get
05:14paid by hour, day, or week? A week. Q. Are you sure you had never told any officer of this
05:19before
05:20telling Frank? A. Yes. Q. Why did you just tell him? A. Well, I knew he wouldn't question me three
05:26or
05:26four hours like the officers would. Questioned as to his duty toward solving the mystery, witness said he
05:31thought if the officers were making a thorough investigation they would certainly question
05:35him, as he was foreman of the metal department. Q. I knew they had three or four men locked up,
05:40he said, and as I had been in the building they might lock me up too.
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