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00:01I've come to talk with you again
00:06Because a vision softly creeping
00:11Left a seed while I was sleeping
00:17And the vision that was planted in my brain
00:24Still remains
00:29Within the sound of silence
00:35I'm just saying we should have pulled over when we had a chance
00:37What if the next rest stop is like 50 miles away?
00:39There's no way that I could hold it in that long, there's no way
00:42Maybe you become one with nature
00:44On this road? God knows what's out there, uh-uh
00:47Spiders, snakes, bears
00:48Very dramatic
00:50But cute
00:52Yeah, yeah, yeah
00:52Please just check maps and see if there's any bathrooms close by, please
00:58Huh
01:00Still in S.O.S. mode
01:01Griffin, try yours
01:06Griff
01:09Want me to wake him?
01:10No, just let him sleep at all
01:12How many gummies did he take anyway?
01:23Damn, this guy's in our hurry
01:29Just slow down, go past us
01:47Give him space
01:50Shit, what did he watch?
01:51They're just messing with us
01:59Shit, what did he watch?
02:01They're just messing with us
02:02Probably drunk
02:03Oh
02:05You alright?
02:06Yeah, I know I'm fine, just what was that?
02:07I don't know
02:09They're going
02:10Don't worry
02:11Now I really gotta pee
02:14Uh...
02:14Pull over here
02:23God, it's so dark out here
02:25Want me to come with you?
02:32Oh my god
02:34Wait, that's them
02:36That's his new truck
02:37Shit
02:37Shit
02:41What do we do?
02:42We can't back up, what do we do?
02:44They're just trying to scare us
02:45Believe
02:45How do you know, Mark?
02:46How do you know?
02:51If I say go
02:53Fucking go
02:54Go where?
02:55There's a gate
02:55We can't get out of here, we're stuck
02:58Oh my god
03:01Put that down, please
03:06What's going on?
03:07Can't hear ya
03:08Did you turn it off?
03:10Should I?
03:11Cut the engine
03:11Do it, do it, let's run this off
03:17Thank you, Lord
03:18Now, the way I see it
03:20You owe us an apology
03:21An apology for what, exactly?
03:24Well, simple really
03:25You need to say you're sorry
03:26For what happened back there
03:28Back where, what?
03:29I'm confused
03:30At that rest stop
03:31Oh no, no
03:32We weren't at a rest stop
03:33That wasn't us
03:34So now you're calling me a liar
03:35Hey, no
03:38She said we're liars
03:39No, no, no, no, no
03:40I didn't, I didn't
03:41I did not call you a liar
03:42That's not what I said at all
03:51You sure you weren't at that rest stop?
03:55Camera don't lie
03:58It wasn't us, okay
03:59I swear
04:01No
04:01I swear
04:03Till five
04:04Look through all this footage
04:06You're not gonna be on it
04:07You're not gonna be on it
04:08That's your story
04:09It wasn't us, man
04:11Alright, I'm just letting you know
04:13I can handle it
04:14But, uh, Noel over there
04:16He doesn't do so good
04:18When people call him a liar
04:19No, no
04:19Nobody's calling him that
04:21Maybe you guys have us confused
04:22With another car
04:24Because
04:24We've been driving non-stop
04:26Since we last filled up
04:27And that was what?
04:27Like a hundred miles ago?
04:29I mean, we should've stopped them
04:30Because Laurie needs to pee
04:31But
04:31Fuck
04:31He doesn't need to know that
04:33Look, I think what Mark is just trying to say
04:34Is that
04:34This is really just a complete big mis-
04:36Yeah, see, um
04:37What do y'all call that?
04:40Gaslighting
04:40Gaslighting
04:40That's right
04:41Yeah
04:41It's kinda sneaky, Laurie
04:43You know, you and Mark here are making me feel like I'm losing my mind
04:49I don't like that
04:50They didn't mean it
04:54Now, who are you?
04:56Their friend
04:57Catching a ride
04:57So, uh
04:58Friend
05:00Where y'all headed?
05:02Just passing through
05:03Do me a favor, friend, won't you?
05:04Why don't you get out?
05:05No, no, he doesn't need to do that
05:07Sure he does
05:09Griffin, don't
05:10I can't answer a direct question
05:12Must have something to hide
05:14Come on out now, Mark
05:16Friend
05:16Tell him to go
05:18Griffin, don't
05:19Griffin, you're high
05:21Griffin
05:21It's okay, guys
05:22I got this
05:24I'll see what he wants
05:25Don't
05:26Dammit, Griffin
05:26Come on
05:27No, Griffin, get back in the fucking car
05:28Are you making a movie of us?
05:30Heck no, we got another filmmaker over here
05:32Look, I was just, you know
05:34No, I don't know
05:34Look, I don't want this to blow up
05:36Who does, right?
05:37We're just talking here
05:39Turn the car back on
05:40No, we can't leave Griffin
05:40Griffin, Griffin
05:41Get back inside, alright?
05:43Call the police
05:43Griffin, come here
05:44Let us go
05:44Yeah, yeah, I should
05:52What is this?
05:53What is this?
05:53Oh my god
05:54What the fuck?
05:56I don't know what to do
05:57I don't know what to do
05:57I don't know what to do
06:00Come on out here, Mark
06:03You don't want to make this worse now, do you?
06:06I know
06:08Dude, he's so slow
06:13Hey, Ben
06:14Look
06:15We didn't do anything wrong, alright?
06:17We'll give you anything you need
06:21Mark!
06:24Okay, Lori
06:26Come on out
06:34Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, please
06:38Please, please, please, please, please
06:39Don't do this
06:40Please, don't do this
06:41No, no, no, no
06:42Get him
06:43Get him
06:44Get him
06:44Good girl
06:45Please, please
06:46Please, I'm begging
06:48Do I beg you
06:50Do I beg you
06:50What the fuck are you taking us?
06:52You don't have to do this
06:54Please, I'm begging you
06:55Oh my god
06:56We need to get him to our hospital
06:58What the fuck is wrong with you guys?
07:00Wait, wait, wait, don't
07:01History repeats itself
07:03But in such cunning disguise
07:05That we never detect the resemblance
07:07Until the damage is done
07:10Sidney J. Harris
07:14Hey, it's just us again
07:17Penelope's helping JJ move
07:18Yeah, she needs the support
07:20So do Virginia State Troopers Luke and Tyler
07:23Are consulting in Roanoke
07:24We're guessing
07:26Tara's off-site on her latest assignment
07:30You know
07:32I can't believe she volunteered for that
07:34I can
07:35She's trying to protect anyone else from having to do it
07:37Like you
07:43Oh, seriously?
07:46Our friends on the eighth floor just got axed
07:49When will it end?
07:51This is brutal
07:52What shock they haven't offered me a deal yet
07:54You're too valuable to lay off
07:56Famous crime fighter
07:57And esteemed author
08:00Why are you avoiding the book deal?
08:03Oh, you're good
08:03The publisher only wants me to talk about one offender
08:07Guess who?
08:08Voight
08:09We've caught hundreds
08:10But they want him
08:12The only one I don't want to talk about
08:14He's Bundy and Dahmer famous
08:16A household name
08:17Well, not in my house
08:19Yeah, well, you're alone on that
08:20You should hear these true crime proposals
08:24They especially love how he tried to reinvent himself as a family man
08:28But he couldn't quiet his killer instincts
08:31And yes, that's the title
08:33Don't worry, I turn them down
08:35I have zero interest in having this team relive our Voight years
08:38You and me both
08:41I'd die a happy man
08:42If I didn't have to think about Elias Voight ever again
09:17No! No!
09:47And how did that moment make you feel?
09:50You know, we've never actually talked about the sexual gratification of your kills.
09:54It's not about that. If the fantasy was too short, it was all about power, control.
09:58If you think about it, I'm actually pretty textbook.
10:01No one would agree with that.
10:03Oh, so you think what I did was special?
10:05Well, I don't think it was textbook.
10:10Okay, so you think if I walk you through everything, you'll be able to stop someone else?
10:18You're a living resource, Elias.
10:20For the sake of others, I can't just let you sit in here and not tell your story.
10:24Do you ever think that all this research is just training other potential killers?
10:28Well, that's a question for you. Did Rossi's books influence you?
10:34He fascinated me. He was the first person I ever heard talk about people like my uncle and then me.
10:42He made you feel less alone.
10:52Uh-oh.
10:53How's your new cell?
10:55Well, it's bigger than solitary and safer than gen pop.
11:03The guards are saying that you're not sleeping.
11:07Now, look, I know we've talked about it already, but the families of some of your victims have reached out.
11:13Again.
11:13And they want to meet you.
11:15No, it's not a good idea.
11:16Most are looking for an accountability that doesn't always come with a conviction.
11:20If that's all they're asking for, it feels cruel not to give it to them.
11:23No, it would be cruel to trigger those memories.
11:35Mom, what do you want this last one?
11:37Uh, that one goes in the car.
11:39Okay, it's getting cool though.
11:41Yeah.
11:42Whoa, what's that?
11:43Stuff from dad's workbench.
11:44Got it.
11:45He wanted at the new place.
11:46Uh, yes, he would.
11:47This is just random stuff from the garage.
11:50So, great.
11:53Oh, God.
11:54You and Will with a bubble wrap.
11:57It helps protect precious things.
12:00Um, speaking of precious things, how are you holding up?
12:07I feel so weird saying goodbye to this place.
12:11But even weirder staying, so...
12:15Yeah, and the boys want it.
12:17And my love, you need it.
12:18Oh, I know you were right, as always.
12:22And, uh, it'll give Henry some time to make some memories of the new place before he moves away to
12:27some dorm somewhere.
12:29Sweet heaven, how is this even possible?
12:31Like, how are you just like a little baby, and then he was a toddler who wouldn't leave your side,
12:36and now he's going away to college?
12:39I was not prepared for this bittersweet heartache.
12:43But he'll probably stay on the East Coast.
12:46No, I wish.
12:48California's always been on his list.
12:51Oh, no.
12:52It's okay, Auntie P.
12:54He's not a freshman yet, right?
12:56Right, right.
12:56We still have time.
12:58And you're in my neighborhood?
12:59Yes.
12:59I'm coming over all the time.
13:00The boys love your place.
13:03They're already talking about being there every five minutes.
13:06I love it.
13:07Yeah.
13:07Well, lock up your skill.
13:14I just need a minute.
13:16Yeah.
13:17Take all the time you want.
13:20Beautiful friends.
13:21Will you help me with these boxes?
13:23Yes, Auntie P.
13:24Sure.
13:42Hi, Mom.
13:43Hi, Mom.
13:44It's his first girlfriend.
13:45They were babies a minute ago.
13:48Merry Christmas.
13:49Merry Christmas.
13:49This is perfect.
13:50Merry Christmas.
13:51Happy birthday.
13:53So can we just say that we have each other's backs?
13:56I'll find you in every lifetime and love you even more.
14:00I love you.
14:02I love you, too.
14:06I love you, too.
14:18I love you.
14:23I love you, too.
14:31I love you.
14:34I'm obsessed with the phone.
14:35Y'all good?
14:36Yeah, I just, uh...
14:38I'm expecting a call, but there's no service out here.
14:40Thanks for coming so quickly.
14:43Dawn Patrol called the name.
14:44been as registered to a Lori Raines.
14:47Her parents confirmed she and fellow grad students
14:49were on a trip to Tennessee.
14:51There were signs of violence,
14:53blood on the driver's side window,
14:54and on the ground.
14:56That's my shotgun shell.
15:05Has anyone else ever gone missing out here?
15:08A month ago,
15:09a couple with last scene filling up not far from here.
15:12Then they just vanished.
15:14No car at that time, though.
15:16It's an open case,
15:16but there's just no family pushing for answers.
15:19Friends said they were known to go off-grid,
15:21a little more free-spirited.
15:23So disappearing for a month is on brand for them?
15:26But given this,
15:27couldn't be they were taken by the same tender.
15:28Yeah.
15:29All right, I'm going to need anything else you have on them,
15:31and let's expand the search to the tri-state area.
15:34These missing person cases are abductions.
15:36The unsub is up against victim count
15:38and escalating the violence.
15:39We're going to be looking for a team
15:41abducting multiple victims to take skill
15:43and manpower.
15:45We've got to lock this area down.
15:52Hang in there, Griff.
15:55It's okay.
15:56It's okay.
15:56It's okay.
15:57It's okay.
15:59It's okay.
15:59We've got more pressure.
16:00It's not helping.
16:02Don't say that, Mark.
16:03Damn it.
16:03Shit.
16:06I feel pressure.
16:08We need to get him to a hospital.
16:10Do you hear us?
16:11Can you hear me?
16:12We've got to get him to a fucking hospital.
16:15Are you okay?
16:15It's all right, Griff.
16:16It's all right.
16:17It's okay.
16:19He's bleeding out, man.
16:20He's going to die.
16:20Please.
16:22Do something.
16:23Do something.
16:23Shit.
16:30No, you're hurting him.
16:31No, you're hurting him, Griff.
16:33He needs to go to a doctor, please.
16:35No, no, no.
16:37We're going to die.
16:40We're going to die.
16:43No, no, no.
16:47Come on.
16:48Come on.
16:48Come on.
16:48Come on.
16:48Come on.
16:50Come on.
16:52What do we do?
16:57Holy shit.
16:58Wait, wait, wait.
17:00Please.
17:01Please, you've got to get him to a doctor, please.
17:02We'll do anything.
17:03Just get him to the hospital, please.
17:06Oh.
17:09Did you hear that?
17:16Who is this?
17:20You've got to be quiet.
17:21Trust us.
17:22You'll get pissed.
17:23It'll get so much worse.
17:25But how can it get worse?
17:26We've been abducted and our friend is bleeding out.
17:28How can it get worse?
17:29Don't!
17:38He's dead.
17:51And we'll get worse.
17:58He's just blown away from all of us.
17:59I couldn't sleep much, but the boys slept well, which only confirms...
18:02Moving was an excellent choice.
18:04Yes.
18:04Oh, it feels good to be back here, though.
18:06Where everything feels normal.
18:08Yeah, because it's totally normal.
18:10Catching killers.
18:11At least we don't pull muscles.
18:13I'll take that back.
18:14You might.
18:15Come back.
18:15How'd the move go?
18:16We could have used taller people.
18:18I, uh, I pulled something in my wing.
18:21I'm limited to this movement.
18:23Okay.
18:24That's all.
18:25That's all I got.
18:26I'm sorry.
18:26Okay.
18:29Don't worry, things are good.
18:30What's up?
18:31Is everything okay?
18:31Not really, but, uh, this is something else.
18:34We should gather, everyone.
18:35We've got a case.
18:37All right, can you help me get it up on the monitor?
18:39You have one more dumb question for today, handsome.
18:42Choose wisely.
18:42Hold up.
18:44Images coming through.
18:45Luke, you are live in 5, 4, 3, 2.
18:48Yesterday, three people were reported missing, and one just turned up dead on a remote trail.
18:53Uh, hikers found him this morning.
18:55Griffin Fuchs, 27, just back from the Peace Corps.
18:58Last night, he was driving on a remote road with his grad school friends, Laurie Rains and Mark Benton.
19:03They're still missing.
19:04Griffin was killed, posed, and left in the same area as this man, who was also found by hikers.
19:09Massive bleeding from the chest looks like the COD, but what caused it?
19:12A shovel.
19:13It was used to kill them both.
19:15It's evident that this unsub has a disposition ritual.
19:18Yeah, but get this, that victim was found in 1996.
19:23If we're looking at the same unsub here, this guy's 30 years older and still healthy and strong enough to
19:29take through victims.
19:30His shotgun did some talking, found a spent shell near the car.
19:33It's rare to see a victim on display like this, especially at the same dump site.
19:37He's taunting law enforcement.
19:39But why wait 30 years?
19:41Well, there's a chance it's not at the same unsub.
19:43Right, if this was covered back then, it could be a copycat.
19:46Like Dave said, why start now?
19:48And why these victims?
19:49Well, you said they were driving on a remote road at night.
19:50It could be a simple wrong place, wrong time.
19:53Any other reports?
19:54Another couple about a month ago.
19:55We don't know if they're connected.
19:57Find out.
19:58Meanwhile, we've definitely got two missing people, and our only lead is a 30-year-old cold case.
20:02So let's get all the files.
20:03The clock is ticking.
20:28We're almost done.
20:29We've got to go.
20:31Just one more thing.
20:41Transport detail, report gate 3, EMA reception.
20:44Transport detail, gate 3.
20:46Transport detail, gate 3.
21:05Divorce papers, huh?
21:08Great, you're still here.
21:11Your subconscious is fighting urges to kill, which is why I'm distracting you.
21:16You talking to me is how you cope.
21:19I call this coping.
21:21Talking to these families is a bad idea.
21:23Of all your bad ideas, that's where you're drawing the line?
21:28You know what I think?
21:30You thought that if no one knew what you did, you could be loved.
21:36That's why you buried your secrets.
21:37Yeah.
21:39Well, there's no more secrets and no one left to love me.
21:42And those families personify that.
21:45You figure if you keep those people hidden, like your secrets, it'll protect you.
21:52I don't deserve protection.
21:54And they don't deserve to be ignored.
21:57I'm not ignoring them!
21:59Okay.
22:00Talking is not going to help anything.
22:04How do you know?
22:07As I see it, you shouldn't even have a say in this.
22:15All we make is about return to interior sections in five minutes.
22:21Two outliers are John Doe from 1996 and Griffin from last night.
22:26Otherwise, the unsubstpectomology could be couples on a road trip.
22:29Well, it was late, dark.
22:30Griffin could have been a surprise, and that's why he was killed so quickly.
22:34Yeah, but why couples?
22:36It's like double the risk and the effort.
22:38So his reward has got to be greater, right?
22:41There's something about the dynamic that he craves, being outnumbered.
22:45But he still has all the power.
22:47Our team eliminates some risk.
22:48If there's one or more, they are sadistic.
22:52We have the name of that first victim from 1996.
22:55It's John Layton, 28, showed signs of torture, malnutrition, dehydration.
23:00He was held for close to a year.
23:02A year?
23:02Once he got the body out there reposing, it took time and effort to be on something in
23:07that area.
23:08He wasn't worried about getting caught.
23:09Yeah, and that's not all.
23:11Apparently, there was a female victim found close by, Susan Cartwright.
23:14Well, is she still alive?
23:16Okay, I'm doing dicking.
23:17Ugh, too soon.
23:18This guy keeps getting more extreme.
23:20Multiple victims for almost a year?
23:22Well, here's some good news.
23:23That female survivor, she's still alive.
23:26We need to talk to her.
23:28You gotta calm down, Lori.
23:30I can't, Lori!
23:32They took Griffin!
23:33I mean, what if he's dead?
23:34He was losing a lot of blood.
23:35I don't know, okay?
23:37Ugh!
23:38It was in the hospital for hours!
23:39Lori, they weren't going to help!
23:41Oh my god!
23:42Oh my god!
23:43He's dead!
23:44And we're next!
23:44We've seen their faces!
23:45They're not gonna kill us!
23:46Listen!
23:47They are still alive, okay?
23:49I don't trust that they could be in on this.
23:51It could all be a fucked up game or something.
23:52So what?
23:52We just rot in here?
23:54Don't reach for a lifeline?
23:56No, don't!
23:57Hey, Bodhi?
23:59Oh my god.
24:00They, uh, they took our friend and haven't brought him back.
24:03Did they ever take you guys anywhere?
24:05Ever since they ran us off the road, we've been stuck here.
24:08What do they want?
24:10Some days, nothing.
24:11It's not worth fighting back.
24:12Yes, it is.
24:13No, we have to fight back.
24:15No, no, no, trust me.
24:16They'll do whatever they want, even if you fight back.
24:19They get off on doing it in front of me.
24:21They make me watch.
24:22They're doing what?
24:26All of it.
24:27Don't fight.
24:28You'll just get hurt more.
24:30There are four of us.
24:31They are outnumbered.
24:32We cannot let them do this to us.
24:34They thought of everything.
24:35Having all of us here, it's some twisted shit.
24:38So you're just giving up?
24:39No, no, no.
24:41But to survive, you need to know what to expect.
24:43And right now, you just have to expect the worst.
24:55Susan, hi.
24:56I'm Jennifer.
24:57Thank you for coming in.
24:58Not sure how much I can help.
24:59It's been so long, and the police stopped investigating years ago.
25:04So it's happening again?
25:06We think whoever killed a young man last night, that it's connected to your abduction and John's murder.
25:14Is it the same guy?
25:16We're hoping you can help us figure that out.
25:20Oh, I'm so sorry.
25:21I meant to silence this.
25:22It's okay.
25:24It's my son.
25:25Do you mind?
25:25Oh, of course not.
25:26No.
25:27I get it.
25:28How old?
25:29Well, it's freshman this fall.
25:31No way.
25:32Mine too.
25:34Do you just keep asking yourself how did that happen?
25:36Oh my god, weren't we just pregnant?
25:38And they needed us all the time.
25:40Oh, they still do.
25:41In their own way.
25:43Oh, no, they do.
25:44Yeah.
25:45I still figure out how to do his own laundry, but yeah.
25:46Yeah, my husband always said, time's a thief.
25:50Oh god, that's so true.
25:51I don't know who's going to dread this quiet house more, my husband or me.
25:55How about you guys?
25:58Oh, no, it's my late husband.
26:02He passed just over a year ago.
26:03I'm so sorry, I forgot to say late.
26:04I'm so sorry.
26:06Oh, it's okay.
26:07I can't even imagine doing this alone.
26:09I don't know how you do it.
26:12Sorry.
26:13How can I help?
26:14Please, have a seat.
26:20So, we have read over your survivor statement.
26:24Well, we're hoping that there's a detail you can remember now that you couldn't back then.
26:29I mean, I couldn't try.
26:31I've told the story so many times, it's kind of rote now.
26:34My therapist says that I have detached emotionally from it.
26:38I can't blame you.
26:40It's a classic survival skill.
26:42It was just you and John?
26:44As far as I know.
26:45And what can you remember about who did this to you?
26:48Well, he was just one man.
26:50He didn't have a partner or friends or anything.
26:52It was only ever him.
26:54That was enough.
26:56Did he keep you in a house?
26:57Not a house.
26:58It was this, um, like a room with this overhead light and one of those popcorn ceilings.
27:04I used to look up at it.
27:05I'm sorry.
27:06Is this what you're looking for?
27:08Uh, you're doing great.
27:09Yeah.
27:10Um, I remember, like, these weird little things, like his boots, his dirty work boots.
27:21I was assaulted every single day.
27:27I'm sorry.
27:28I thought I'd put all this behind me.
27:31I've never, I've never told anybody what really happened back then.
27:35I thought it would be easier to just keep it a secret, nobody to feel sorry for me, nobody to
27:41explain it to.
27:43Susan.
27:46You are safe now.
27:50You can tell me.
27:53I really thought I was going to die there.
27:59And, you know, part of me did.
28:02And, that man broke us.
28:06It destroyed our faith in everything.
28:10And John was so devastated.
28:13I begged him to help me.
28:15But he was chained.
28:17And that man got me pregnant.
28:22I don't know.
28:23Why do I say it that way?
28:25I was so sickly.
28:26He barely fed us.
28:27I was shackled and emaciated.
28:30Anyway, I, I...
28:33Gave birth.
28:34But I, I don't think...
28:36And you're crying.
28:38You know.
28:41And then, I guess, to put us out of our misery, he...
28:46Killed John and left me for dead.
28:48And the baby?
28:50He took them.
28:52He took them.
29:00He had twins.
29:14You're going to blow the place out.
29:22You boys.
29:23You busy?
29:25You know it.
29:26I got another gift for you, old man.
29:32Oh, my God.
29:34What the fuck?
29:36Fuck, are you taking us?
29:38Wait, wait, wait.
29:39No, no.
29:40Okay, okay, okay.
29:41Oh, my God.
29:52Twins.
29:53Raised by her captor.
29:55Oh, that poor woman.
29:57How is she?
29:58Shaken up.
29:59Yeah, understandable.
30:00We all thought after 30 years, the Sun Sub would need help.
30:03But I gotta tell you, I never thought I'd be like this.
30:05Now we know why he kept Susan and John for almost a year.
30:08Pregnancy was part of the plan.
30:10Then and now.
30:11That's why they've got two couples, one for each son.
30:14Assaulting the women isn't enough.
30:16They need to assert their dominance over the men, too.
30:18It's in their DNA.
30:19Sick as it sounds, it tracks, right?
30:22I mean, these Unsubs wouldn't have had the upbringing to have an actual relationship.
30:25So they abduct strangers to, like, continue the lineage of evil.
30:29Oh, my gosh.
30:30Why are people so mean?
30:32I know we don't have time to get into it.
30:33Susan confirmed the Unsub was always alone, and he would visit every morning and every night.
30:41So, he had a predictable schedule.
30:43He also wore dirty work boots.
30:45He could have worked in a factory.
30:47Logging is big in that area.
30:48He sounds like an opportunist.
30:50So he wouldn't go out of his way to hunt.
30:52But if the victims were in his area of control on a night he wanted to attack, well, then, they're
30:58in trouble.
30:59Okay, so if he lived close to where he worked and hunted, that's still a massive area with multiple places
31:03to control victims.
31:04We need to narrow this down.
31:06Do you think Susan would be up for a cognitive?
31:08I mean, she's pretty upset, but I can ask.
31:12Tara, you want to join?
31:13Yeah, absolutely.
31:15These daily visits to your dad, they're making all the difference.
31:18You showing him old family movies?
31:20Something like that.
31:22Well, keep it up.
31:24You, uh, you think he's going to pull through?
31:27Oh, come on, son.
31:29You know better.
31:31I'm sorry, but like I told you, he's terminal.
31:34If you can make him happy, we'll keep him comfortable.
31:37Okay?
31:41I'll see you later, Mr. Warner.
31:42Hey!
31:43Howdy-o's, Doc.
31:45Come on, help me up.
31:53Oxygen.
31:55Yep.
32:01Ray.
32:03You boys, you did good.
32:06Why'd you like that?
32:07I'm getting to the end now, boys.
32:10Don't say that's the truth.
32:12You don't deny it.
32:14But before I go, let's switch it up a bit.
32:22Like what?
32:24There's something I need you to do.
32:28Nice to meet you, Dr. Lewis.
32:30Please.
32:31Tara's fine.
32:32So, you and Jennifer are just going to walk me through this?
32:36The questions we ask are meant to elicit specific memories, things that may have been buried.
32:42Now, just a reminder that some of our team is observing, and they will follow through on any leads you
32:47may remember.
32:48If they have any follow-up questions, they will ask me through this earpiece, okay?
32:52I understand.
32:53Okay.
32:55You take a deep breath.
32:59Try and relax.
33:02Now, go back to that gas station.
33:05You and John were outside.
33:07Spring.
33:08Was it a warm night?
33:10I'm kind of cold.
33:14John filled up, and then ten minutes later, we were forced off the road.
33:19We'd never seen the man before.
33:21He wasn't at the gas station like he claimed he was.
33:24Once you were forced off the road, how did you react?
33:27Were you and John angry?
33:28I thought it must be some kind of mistake.
33:31And when he got out, he...
33:34I saw an old guy, so I thought maybe he was just confused.
33:38How old was he?
33:39Probably in his 40s.
33:40I would just seem old at the time.
33:42The thing is, he wasn't angry.
33:44He was weirdly calm.
33:47But he had a crowbar.
33:48Like a silent threat.
33:50And then when John approached him, he hit him over the head with it.
33:53And I screamed.
33:55And he threw me into his truck.
33:57I kept yelling.
33:58I thought John was dead.
33:59But when I got thrown inside the room, John was already inside.
34:04No!
34:04No!
34:06No!
34:06No!
34:08No!
34:09No!
34:10No!
34:11No!
34:12No!
34:14No!
34:14No!
34:15No!
34:17No!
34:18He was bleeding so bad!
34:19He was bleeding so bad!
34:20We got through that first night without seeing that man again.
34:24But that was the last time he ever left us alone.
34:27How long from the abduction site to the secondary location?
34:30How long was the drive?
34:3320 minutes?
34:35I remember thinking I was going to die in that truck, but then he pulled me out.
34:39Did you scream?
34:40He told me to shut up or he was going to kill John, so I didn't yell again.
34:45Not outside.
34:48No!
34:49No!
34:52No!
34:54No!
34:54No!
34:55No!
34:55No!
34:56No!
34:56No!
34:58No!
34:59No!
35:00No!
35:10No!
35:13No!
35:13No!
35:13No!
35:13No!
35:20No!
35:29No!
35:29soundproofing makes us think that there was likely someplace to run to like a neighbor or back out
35:34into the road so is this helping yes yeah we're gonna add all of your memories to the geographic
35:40profile you've confirmed that they have a preferred hunting and dumping ground and that
35:44the abduction site is still active detective reasoning tells us it's the same secondary
35:48site as well boarded windows and the padded room is probably a diy project we should look
35:53at abandoned structures that he could have controlled yeah but the problem is that whole
35:57area's been a ghost town since the 80s and it used to be a tourist destination like a regular
36:02virginia's radiator springs now it's just a bunch of abandoned places let's narrow the search to a
36:0720-mile radius from the abduction site narrowly you have that look i can feel it
36:15what look you're thinking something and you're not going to say it look hey we've got four people
36:19missing okay it's not thought out but if her senses were compromised she said the room was dark and
36:26soundproofed then maybe another sense was heightened like uh like smell i want to ask her hey jj can
36:32you ask her if she smelled anything either in the room or when he'd open the door was there a
36:36distinctive smell in the room or even on his clothes he smelled like tobacco not not from cigarettes but
36:45like that that sweet spicy scent before it's burned like my granddad used to put cherry tobacco in his
36:51pipe that's that's what he smelled like so like a smoke shop or a processing plant yeah
37:03a lot of tobacco in this county always follow your hunches man okay
37:17i love you mark will you be taking you mark just do what he says laurie what are you gonna
37:22do to him
37:23mark you gotta fight back
37:33what are you taking me no no julie
37:36no please no julie
37:45what are you taking me no no julie
37:50no julie
37:50no julie
37:50no julie
37:54no julie
38:05no julie
38:12Oh
38:25No teams teams one of you kills the other one. Whoever survives gets to leave
38:32What?
38:37No, no, no, wait, wait, please don't do this
38:54Julie?
38:57Julie?
39:01Do you think they mean it?
39:03I don't know. They've never done this before
39:07Have they started hurting you?
39:11What?
39:12That's what Julie was talking about
39:13Wait, what?
39:15They're doing that to her and you don't fight them?
39:17I have tried
39:19But they both come in so it's like two against one and
39:22It's part of their sick game to make me feel powerless
39:25You feel powerless?
39:28And what about Julie?
39:30You're assaulting her
39:31And that's way fucking worse, Bodhi, that's way worse
39:34No, it is
39:35I'm just saying
39:37What?
39:38Wait, what if they want us to kill you?
39:41Yeah, the women kill the men, that's why they put you in
39:42Because I won her mark and you won her feet
39:44But I don't know you
39:45That's not what this is
39:46How do you know?
39:47Think about it
39:48If we kill you, that takes out any chance for you to fight them
39:52And then Julie and I have no kind of protection
39:54From what it sounds like she doesn't have any
39:55Maybe they want us to kill the women to pull you out of your misery
39:58By killing us?
39:59Have you heard about surviving?
40:01Maybe death is better than what they're going to pull you through
40:06Is that a threat?
40:09I've got to get the fuck out of here
40:10This padding is the same as ours, but hasn't been secured yet
40:14Let's just think about it for a second, okay?
40:18What do they want?
40:21To...
40:21To play games with us
40:23And then kill us, right?
40:26If that's true, I'd be dead already, you know
40:29They're keeping us
40:33I think they're trying to get me pregnant
40:36Oh my god
40:39What the fuck?
40:40What the...
40:42Turn the lights on, you asshole!
40:44Get it out! Get it out!
40:45Stop it! Get it out!
40:46Get it out!
40:49You're gonna kill me!
40:50No!
40:51No!
40:53No!
40:54You're gonna fucking hell for this!
40:57No!
40:58Stop!
40:59You're gonna kill me!
41:00I know you're gonna kill me!
41:02Get it out!
41:06Crank it up!
41:11Stop!
41:12Oh my!
41:13Stop!
41:15Hey!
41:17Hey, stop!
41:18Please!
41:19I told you boys this would be buff
41:23Taking an aging, organized patient offender
41:26and adding his two younger sons can create a new psychopathology
41:29Some things won't change like the original Unsub's nature
41:32He's off-grid for a reason
41:33Like, uh, distrusting government
41:35So we won't be able to find them through traditional records
41:38Right, he wouldn't risk taking the boys to doctors or sending them to school
41:40No birth records, since they were born in captivity
41:44They may work as day laborers and get paid in cash
41:46That would keep them out of the system
41:48Or, if they had a family business, they could only accept cash
41:51Again, untraceable
41:52Oh, ye of little faith in my powers
41:55There might not be employment records, but I could find family-owned businesses
41:58that may or may not have tricked Uncle Sam
41:59Given Susan's memory of smelling tobacco
42:02I started my search in one of Virginia's biggest cash crops
42:06Oh, I am learning right now
42:08that there were 6,000 tobacco farms in the great state 30 years ago
42:12That number has dwindled to 300
42:14Within the Unsub's comfort zone?
42:15A dozen, cross-referencing that
42:17With abandoned structures in a 20-mile radius
42:21Okay, there's a lot of those
42:23Hold on to the Feathered Hope
42:24Here's something
42:25Northeast of the abduction site, there is a tobacco farm
42:29Southwest, there is an old campground with some cabins
42:34owned by the Warner family
42:38Wait, could this be our guy?
42:41Frank Warner worked at the tobacco factory
42:44He lived on the family's property
42:45which hasn't been a safe place to rest your head since the late 80s
42:49A gravel pathway in the middle of nowhere
42:51Gotta check it out
42:52Coordinates are on your phone
42:53Send that image to JJ and tell us more about Frank Warner
42:56He was arrested for assault twice in the 90s
42:59He didn't serve time
43:00So he became a better offender after that
43:02He didn't risk letting his victims survive
43:04He abducted and killed them instead
43:05I've got a sinking feeling he's got a bigger body count than we know
43:08I don't know about that, but...
43:11That's JJ
43:12Susan Cartwright says it's him
43:13Send us the...
43:30I'm done
43:33Stop! Turn it off! Turn it off!
43:39Take that off
43:41Frank Warner, agents, Rossi and Prentiss
43:44FBI
43:45You're under arrest for the murder of John Layton
43:48The abduction and sexual assault of Susan Cartwright
43:50And aiding and abetting your sons
43:52And the abduction of four others
43:54You got the wrong guy, I've just been wasting away in here
43:59You just stand there looking pretty, honey?
44:02The good part is the only idiots
44:04Who he was able to radicalize are the sons he got by raping a woman
44:07Come on, that's more bullshit
44:09You say my sons abducted people?
44:11It's the opposite
44:13Those bitches drove Caleb and Noel off the road
44:17He thinks that's gonna fly
44:18You better look me in the eye, girl
44:20Well, now, nobody has called me girl in quite some time
44:25But the girl in me would say that you, Frank, sound like a crazy old man
44:30The seasoned profiler in me knows that you're a violent anger excitation rapist
44:35Raised in a household that praised the hate you spew
44:38Which is why you passed it along to your sons
44:41You'd say it's in the DNA
44:42I'd say it's how you were socialized
44:44It's probably both
44:46The worst part is just like you
44:49Your sons abducted innocent people
44:52Oh, no, no, no, no
44:53I told you
44:54Those bitches ran my boys off the road
44:58You can't believe anything out of their dirty mouths
45:01Boy, you are so angry, Frank
45:04Is it because you're an original inso?
45:07Or because you'll be dead soon?
45:09Don't worry about your sons, we'll make sure they're in prison
45:12We'll see
45:12My boys are United States citizens
45:15And you'll forget where you are, little lady
45:18The joy will get it right
45:20Ah, that's enough
45:21Let's get them out of here before I slap the shit out of them
45:23Oh, I would like to see you try
45:26Whoa!
45:27Trooper!
45:28Yes, ma'am
45:42They're dead
45:43They're dead
45:45They're dead
45:46They're dead
45:46They're dead
45:47They're dead
45:48They're dead
45:49FBI, drop it
45:50FBI, drop it
45:51FBI, drop the weapon
45:51We have the right to defend ourselves
45:53You're on private property
45:54Put the gun down and you die
45:55Careful
45:56You're on camera.
45:57We are standing our ground.
45:59You're holding four people captive.
46:01Oh, they attacked us on the road.
46:02Bullshit, you murdered Griffin Fuchs.
46:04That was self-defense.
46:05I'm sure he's going to buy that.
46:06Drop the weapon.
46:10What about you?
46:12Easy way or the hard way?
46:15See you in court.
46:16Yeah, can't wait.
46:21Where are they?
46:22There's two dozen cabins.
46:23They could be anywhere.
46:24I got the right to remain silent.
46:26Where are they?
46:30Stop.
46:32Think about this.
46:32We don't have to play their game.
46:34You don't have to hurt me.
46:35If I don't kill you, you'll kill me.
46:39I don't have a choice.
46:40You said whoever survives this
46:42and I'm fucking leaving, motherfucker.
46:43Please, please, please, please.
46:46Rory, I'm Luke Alvarez with the FBI.
46:48Drop the weapon.
46:49No.
46:50Just put it down.
46:51No.
46:52It's okay.
46:54It's over.
46:57It's over.
46:58No.
47:19Rory.
47:21Are you okay?
47:22Are you okay?
47:24Laurie.
47:27They caught them.
47:29They caught them.
47:34All of them?
47:35Yeah.
47:37So it's over?
47:39It's over.
47:42And I don't have to see them?
47:45Only if you want that closure.
47:50For the past 30 years I didn't think they survived.
47:53And in a lot of ways they didn't.
47:57Being raised by that monster turned them into monsters.
48:05You and I have a husband and a son and that's who I need to be with now.
48:10I understand.
48:13And good luck to you and your kids and your new room of your nest.
48:18You too.
48:24Hey Henry, what's up?
48:27Yeah, I'm coming home now.
48:31Okay, wait. Did you already load the clothes in?
48:34Wait, wait, wait. Did you separate the clothes or did you just dump them all in?
48:38Oh, nice.
48:39Okay, so do you have the detergent?
48:47A little late for a visit, don't you think?
48:50I heard you still weren't sleeping.
48:52Side effect of guilt.
48:53Kinda fucks with your shut eye.
48:55What's your excuse?
48:57Workaholic.
48:59Plus the traffic is my zilch right now, so.
49:04So what's going on with you?
49:06Guards say you're talking to yourself.
49:08I was thinking out loud, I guess.
49:11I don't know.
49:12Anything I should know about?
49:16Go ahead.
49:18I should believe it.
49:21Um, lawyers sent over divorce papers.
49:25I thought that happened already.
49:27Yeah, it did, but since I got sentenced, it means I'm gonna rot here for the rest of my life.
49:31So the papers were drawn up so that I rot here the rest of my life with nothing to live
49:36for.
49:37Well, you know, you could...
49:38I could find some purpose.
49:40Have you given it any more thought?
49:42You do not actually think that that's gonna help these families sleep any better.
49:45Yeah, I do.
49:46Yeah, I doubt that.
49:47Is any of this even helping at all?
49:49The BAU already knows that fantasy leads to peeping, leads to stalking, leads to breaking and entering.
49:55Yes, but you've lived through this stuff. We only studied the behavior.
49:58No, no, no. We both studied it.
50:02But you studied it to help other people, and I studied it to help myself.
50:05Yes, because you're an addict, alright?
50:07And you were chasing a high.
50:11Do you want to tell me about it?
50:17Sometimes the high would last for months.
50:21But then to come down, it would be bad. I'd pick up other things.
50:24I'd just...
50:25Smoking, drinking, anything just to take the edge off.
50:28Yeah, that makes sense.
50:30Addicts have to feed the beast.
50:33But you also learned to adapt.
50:35To fit in.
50:37Right?
50:38To play the part.
50:39Yeah, I get really good at that.
50:40I convinced someone to marry me so that I seem like a good guy.
50:42Whatever it takes.
50:44And then once you find a way to be invisible...
50:46You test the theory.
50:48To see if you're right.
50:50And then it's all about self-control and building up the nerve.
50:54Because after this talking, but before the actual contact, it's all about a fantasy.
50:59That leaves the groundwork for everything else.
51:01And once it starts, it can't be stopped.
51:07Problem is, while we sit in here talking about it, someone new is out there doing it.
51:12You just don't know it yet.
51:14You just don't know it.
51:16You just don't know it.
51:17You just don't know it.
51:17The pain of our hearts is the only sound.
51:26Children, we behave.
51:32That's what I say is what I say.
51:34You gotta come.
51:37Watch how you came.
51:41We don't understand that we're running just as fast as we can
51:51Holding on to one another's hands
51:56Trying to get away into the night
52:01And you put your arms around me
52:04And you need some breaks in your mind
52:06And you say
52:07What do you think?
52:13I don't think so
52:15I don't think so
52:20I'll save me all
52:21I'll save me all
52:23The thing in your heart
52:26Is the only sound
52:28I think so
52:35I think now, I think we're alone now
52:40We're alone
52:45We're alone
52:47We're alone