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Seth and Sean look at the Texans' roster through the lens of what Daniel Jeremiah says teams need to win at an elite level. Do the Texans have these 12 player archetypes currently in place?
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00:00Daniel Jeremiah, I'm curious if you, I'm actually curious, Seth, if you agree with Jeremiah's worldview on this thing when
00:07it comes to the concept.
00:09Daniel Jeremiah, who I like, he's a former scout, NFL.com, probably going to be on ESPN at some point
00:15because now they own the NFL network.
00:17I think he already is, isn't he?
00:18I think there might be some moving going on with him.
00:20They got, basically, there were like 40 main talent people there that 37 of them got moved to ESPN.
00:28And there's three guys holding down the fort there at NFL Network.
00:31Yeah, he's really good.
00:32I like Daniel Jeremiah a lot.
00:34He tweeted this yesterday.
00:36I'd like to revisit this concept for every NFL team.
00:39To build a championship foundation, you need to fill these 12 spots.
00:44Okay, so Daniel Jeremiah's theory is a championship foundation, a team with a championship foundation has these 12 things.
00:52Quarterback, three offensive playmakers, three quality offensive linemen, two pass rushers, three defensive playmakers, which I'm assuming can be an
01:05off-ball linebacker or a safety or a quarterback.
01:08I think this was, okay, three defensive playmakers.
01:12My first thought was like, we're loaded.
01:15We got way more than that.
01:17I think that those are the numbers he's been using a while for when he does this little exercise.
01:22I think that things have swung back a little bit more to where you got to be a more balanced
01:27team to win a championship.
01:28Most likely that you, it's, it's going to be hard to, it's going to be hard to just be a
01:34team with an awesome offense that's going to outscore everybody.
01:37There's just defenses have caught up to some of the things that offenses are doing.
01:40So I might, I might tweak that up to four defensive playmakers where again, I feel good.
01:46I feel like the Texans are there.
01:47I don't even want to go through, I don't want to go through the exercise of figuring out which six
01:50or seven guys are considered playmakers.
01:52I was going to treat this like blanks and just see how many blanks the Texans have filled in.
01:57Okay.
01:58So we'll do, so we'll go by Daniel Jeremiah's standard of three defensive playmakers.
02:03We'll start with Will Anderson.
02:04Well, I think the edge rushers are separate, right?
02:06He's got two pass rushers and three defensive playmakers.
02:09Oh, oh, oh, oh, yes.
02:10Yeah.
02:11So it's five.
02:11All right.
02:12Okay.
02:12That makes more sense then.
02:13Yup.
02:14Yup.
02:14So the edge is obvious.
02:15You've got Will and Daniil, 51 and 55.
02:19Yeah.
02:20Who, who do you think outside of them, who are the three biggest defensive playmakers for this team?
02:24The biggest defensive playmakers I would say are, boy, it's tough.
02:28I think, okay, with cornerback, it's going to be different because the best cornerbacks don't necessarily make a lot of
02:35plays.
02:35It's that people just don't.
02:37They shut down their side of the field.
02:39So I put Stingley out there because Stingley still does that.
02:41Yup.
02:42I don't know.
02:43And then, I mean, the biggest, I would say Kamari Lassiter.
02:46Yup.
02:47And then either K-
02:49I would say Kalen Bullock.
02:50Kalen Bullock?
02:51Yeah.
02:51No, no, no, no.
02:52Jalen Petrie.
02:53You have Petrie over Bullock?
02:54Yeah.
02:55But they're both playmakers.
02:56Yeah.
02:56I would say Jalen Petrie.
02:57Okay.
02:57So five.
02:58You know Kamari Lassiter changes his number to three.
03:01Yeah.
03:01I'm just letting you know that before we go out there tomorrow.
03:03Yeah.
03:04I'm just letting you know that.
03:04Thanks for making my life that much harder.
03:08This stuff gets ingrained and yeah.
03:10I know.
03:11I hear you, man.
03:12Kamari Lassiter is a better number than four for a football player.
03:15So I feel that's, I feel.
03:17Is it?
03:18It's three, but they're the same, really.
03:20Okay.
03:21Thanks, Ben.
03:22So, um.
03:23Mr. Science in there.
03:24So I feel like we've.
03:25Three is, three is 25% less than four.
03:28Yeah.
03:29Basically the same.
03:30Yeah, Ben.
03:30I have a soft spot where I think of Devin Hester as four.
03:33Oh, okay.
03:34There you go.
03:34There you go.
03:35So I feel good about those five that I just filled in the blank that you named.
03:39Two all pro edge rushers and three pro bowl caliber playmakers.
03:43And we still got meat on the bone.
03:44And if those guys weren't on the team, the, like I still, doing that exercise, we could
03:49have.
03:49Yeah.
03:50Yeah.
03:50They got, they got, they got.
03:52You know, Aziz was a pro bowler.
03:54Okay.
03:54The offensive side of the ball gets a little, it's a little dice here.
03:58I mean, we obviously know who the quarterback is.
04:00It's just, how do we feel about the quarterback?
04:02Do they have three players you would call offensive playmakers for this team?
04:05That's what I wonder.
04:07Like in terms of bonafide playmaker, I think that the Texans have to put some guys into
04:13categories where there are other offenses in the league and they might say, oh, those
04:18are your playmakers.
04:19Yeah.
04:19That's, I mean, we got, yes.
04:20Like who are their three best playmakers?
04:23Yeah.
04:24Nico Collins.
04:25Nico's obviously one of them.
04:26Yeah.
04:26So I got him in there.
04:27So we got two more spaces.
04:29We'll do the O-line.
04:30A guy that you would call a playmaker.
04:32I would say if healthy and if he's actually got a solid offensive lineman in front of him,
04:37David Montgomery is still in that category.
04:39Well, and especially given what I think the expectations are for him in short yardage.
04:43Yeah.
04:43I know short yardage plays aren't very sexy, but he converts short yardage plays like it's
04:48nobody's business.
04:49And it's interesting.
04:49If you look at his numbers last year, they're pretty much on par with what they were the year
04:54before, except he didn't score as many touchdowns.
04:56And also, you know, Jameer Gibbs just took over, took the mantle in terms of the feature
05:00back on that team.
05:01Yeah.
05:02So yeah, I think as he played last year and if he's the main, you know, first and second
05:10down guy, especially if the offensive line is actually legitimate this year, then yeah,
05:15he's still a playmaker.
05:16Okay.
05:16Who would the third one be?
05:17That's a tough one, Sean.
05:19I mean, Dalton Schultz, I guess.
05:21I was going to say Dalton Schultz.
05:22I think, I think it needs to be Jaden Higgins.
05:26Yeah.
05:27You're right.
05:27Like I think if I, if I had my druthers, cause I look at Dalton Schultz and it probably is
05:32Dalton Schultz right now.
05:33And that may be something that's holding back the offense.
05:35He was a league.
05:36Well, no, he was a league leader in reception yardage for tight ends.
05:39I mean, he's not an electric playmaker, but he's like, he's boy, but you don't classify
05:45him as one of the top tight ends in the league.
05:47He's a productive, he's a productive tight end.
05:49Yeah.
05:50There's a productive tight end.
05:51That's why I'm saying, I think it needs to be Jaden Higgins and not because Dalton Schultz
05:55got hurt or something like that.
05:56It needs to be Schultz having the same type of year he has, but with Higgins ascending
06:02the way that Nico Collins did a couple of years ago.
06:05Maybe not to that degree.
06:06I mean, Nico's first breakout season, he had 1,300 yards receiving.
06:10I'm not expecting that from the Texans number two wide receiver, but whatever Higgins was
06:14doing in the second half of the year, that was a getting it, that was getting him in the
06:17end zone and it was getting him moving the chains.
06:20He needs to do that for 17 weeks this year.
06:22So I think it needs to be Higgins, but I think it is Schultz right now.
06:26That's what I would put Schultz.
06:27And I think that it's tough because, you know, playmaker is a pretty vague term and it could
06:31mean a lot of things.
06:33You know, there's all pro, there's pro bowl, but then, okay, a guy that makes plays.
06:38If Dalton Schultz was in the top five of receiving yards for a tight end, like that's, that's a
06:43productive playmaker.
06:44But he's not, he's not Trey McBride.
06:46No, you know, no, no.
06:47But on this team, he's one of their top three playmakers.
06:50And again, that's, that's why the offense has a ceiling on it right now.
06:54One of the reasons why.
06:55So how about...
06:56Trey McBride, who I stood next to in the elevator at the pro bowl.
06:58Oh yeah.
06:59At the hotel.
07:00Did you recognize him?
07:01No.
07:01At first I thought Aiden Hutchinson isn't nearly as big as I thought he would be.
07:05You thought it was Aiden Hutchinson?
07:06I thought it was Aiden Hutchinson, yeah.
07:09He is smaller than Aiden Hutchinson.
07:10Yeah, not that much smaller, but he looks more like a tight end.
07:13I was surprised by how few guys I recognized at our hotel.
07:16Yeah.
07:17The pro bowlers.
07:18I was really bad at identifying.
07:19Terrible.
07:20I'm bad at, I still, like, I won't, when we're at the Super Bowl, there's times where there's
07:25like Hall of Famers that I'm kind of like, oh, Jerry Rice, I didn't recognize right off
07:29the bat.
07:29Really?
07:30Because he looks a lot different than he did even like 10 years ago.
07:33Okay.
07:33So, yeah.
07:34Yeah.
07:35I was honestly, yeah, I had a hard time identifying Jerry Rice.
07:38Yeah.
07:39It's everybody at our hotel.
07:41In person.
07:41Yeah.
07:42Will Anderson I recognized at our hotel.
07:44Good for you.
07:44Yep.
07:45I recognized him.
07:46Okay.
07:47You need three quality linemen for Daniel Jeremiah's theory to hold water.
07:51Yeah.
07:52So, okay.
07:52So, what do you say?
07:53So, immediately, like, because the old theory, because I subscribe to this theory, like, with
07:58five average offensive linemen, I think you can have a, you can have a good offensive
08:02line as long as you've got five average guys.
08:03But so, so for, I kind of, I kind of tweak it a little bit.
08:07You don't have to have three, you don't have to have three pro bowlers.
08:09Right.
08:09You have, you've got to have three genuinely solid offensive linemen.
08:12Who are their three best?
08:13Their three best, as of right now, would be Braden Smith.
08:18Okay.
08:19Ed Ingram.
08:20Yep.
08:20And Wyatt Teller.
08:21Okay.
08:24And the, the, the big swing there could be, you know, uh, we just don't know what
08:30Keelan Rutledge is.
08:32Uh, actually, you know what?
08:33I would actually say maybe Trent Brown is actually a Trent Brown.
08:35Well, I might put Trent Brown, uh, a healthy Trent Brown right now over Wyatt Teller, but
08:41Wyatt Teller is going to be starting in Trent Brown.
08:42And I would say something to you, similar to what I said about Jaden Higgins at the playmaker
08:47category.
08:48Ariante Urseri needs to become one of these guys.
08:51Yeah, no, yeah.
08:52And that's where his trajectory, I think he's going to be, I think he's going to be
08:54at the very least a solid NFL offensive tackle.
08:57I think his upside is more than that, but he's not there yet.
09:00And you've made this point and I'm glad you did.
09:01It's that you can't just assume that because he had a promising rookie year, all of a sudden
09:06he's going to be a quality NFL offensive tackle.
09:08Yeah.
09:08We've kind of ignored him this off season.
09:10We've treated him a little bit like the, the young Rockets core.
09:13They're just going to get better, right?
09:15They'll just be better next year.
09:16Of course they will.
09:17Right.
09:17Doesn't everything always rise?
09:19It always gets better.
09:20That's what the people at Trajan Wealth always have to explain to me.
09:22I was like, what?
09:23It always goes up, doesn't it?
09:25Like, Seth, we've talked to you about this 29 times.
09:27There's a disclaimer in the ad.
09:29It went up yesterday.
09:30Why don't you buy more today?
09:31I'm the same way.
09:33Yeah.
09:33I'm the same.
09:34It's always all, but I figured by my, in my world, every team finished, there will
09:38be a day where all 32 teams are 17 and 0.
09:41Yeah.
09:42That's what's going to happen.
09:43And then the big thing is then after you demand that they buy it, when it falls, scream at
09:49them about it.
09:50How did you let me buy that?
09:51That's right.
09:52That's right.
09:52No, I don't.
09:53That's not the way I treat the people at Trajan Wealth.
09:55No, we know.
09:56They know.
09:56They know.
09:58They know not to listen to me.
09:59I told them when I came on board.
10:01I was like, listen, this is the thing.
10:02Don't listen to me.
10:03Yeah.
10:04All right.
10:04I just don't accept my 2 a.m.
10:06phone calls.
10:06This is why I'm working with you.
10:08I'm not, don't, don't accept my, don't listen to the voicemail I left at 2 a.m.
10:13where I told you about what's happening in the Asian markets.
10:16That would be one of my favorite phone calls to listen to, a Seth Payne call to his investment
10:20advisor.
10:21There's a drought in West China.
10:22Do you realize what that's going to do?
10:242 in the morning.
10:25To soybean futures.
10:26You got to get in.
10:28Yeah.
10:282 in the morning.
10:29The whole text page is all people with famous names, but they aren't that person.
10:34Like, there's a bunch of people like, my favorite commercials are the ones that had Michael
10:37Jordan, but he was the little white guy, Michael Jordan.
10:40So he says he has a buddy named Austin Powers.
10:43Oh, wow.
10:44That's going to be kind of a fun name to have.
10:45That's a good name to have.
10:47Yeah.
10:48Yep.
10:48Yep.
10:48Yep.
10:49That's like, uh, there was a Simpsons episode where Homer changed his names to, was it Max
10:54Powers?
10:55And all of a sudden things started happening for him.
10:57Oh, really?
10:57If I remember it correctly.
10:58I haven't seen it in a long time.
10:59Yeah.
11:00That's funny.
11:00Like, you change your name to Max Powers and all of a sudden people have certain expectations.
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