00:00Joe Espada may have to regain his captain status for this.
00:04He never had captain status.
00:06That's not true.
00:06He's Captain Joe.
00:07And you know it.
00:08It isn't true in your view, I guess.
00:10You get to 500, we might have a conversation.
00:13We better have some lineups, I can tell you that.
00:14Listen, listen, Clint.
00:15I know that I was the one that really went with the captain thing,
00:19but I'm going to need you to up your standards.
00:22Don't you give him that for 500.
00:24It's got to be better than that.
00:26You didn't have him as a captain.
00:27I was talking about me and you having a conversation, not me and Joe.
00:30No, I was going to say, you didn't have Joe as a captain as a playoff team,
00:34let alone you continue to believe.
00:37Well, I mean, you tried to speak it into existence.
00:39At some point, me and Tyler get tired of fighting this thing.
00:43It's a long season, y'all.
00:45I stick to it in this.
00:46Listen, I'm not kidding you.
00:49This here is the best thing that I've ever seen Joe Espada do as a manager.
00:56Now, we have complained fairly about some of his things.
01:03If he says it is still a lot of baseball left to play.
01:07It's a long season, man.
01:09Yes.
01:10He's going to just make you lose it because he'll say it tomorrow.
01:14That ain't any good enough.
01:17Altuve's off again today, isn't he?
01:19Altuve off with a chance to sweep ahead of a day off for everybody.
01:26He gives him back-to-back days off.
01:29That was a no-brainer for me.
01:30At least he plays your Don every day.
01:36He's completely shot Christian Walker's confidence.
01:39But anyway, we're not here to talk about the things that he has done.
01:41The Christian combo.
01:44In a negative sense.
01:46Pete Lambert, who, I mean, we're beyond saving grace to Pete Lambert.
01:52Peter Lambert, as he calls him.
01:53Sorry, Peter.
01:54Peter Lambert is, he is the best, has been the best pitcher on this staff.
02:01And I don't know how right now, at this point,
02:06he's not the person you feel the most comfortable with when he has the ball.
02:10But it's his turn in the rotation.
02:13Okay?
02:15Because look up.
02:17Because tomorrow, I believe, is, who is it tomorrow?
02:19Is it Spencer?
02:20Is it Spencer or Ron Elliott?
02:21Spencer or Getty?
02:22Good luck.
02:23Cross your fingers.
02:24Whew.
02:26And Pete did it again last night.
02:28Six innings.
02:29Six hits.
02:30Two earned.
02:32He had been really big on the strikeouts in his previous starts.
02:36He had only three Ks last night, but was able to keep the walks down
02:40and get himself out of trouble when he got into it
02:42and give his team a chance to win.
02:44And eventually, those idiots pitched to Yordan with the game on the line late.
02:50But what he said after the game, and I want you all to listen to this.
02:55713-572-416, YouTube and Twitch.
02:57Do you believe, because I believe Joe Espada's taken a real challenge,
03:05and this message is not about Pete Lambert.
03:09This message is about his ace, Hunter Brown.
03:12That's how I took it.
03:15I just don't know if he did this deliberately.
03:17Did he know what he was doing?
03:19Did he do it on purpose, or was this an accident?
03:22Because if he did it on purpose, this is right out of the playbook
03:25of some of the greatest managers trying to challenge their players.
03:31This is what he said about Pete Lambert.
03:33I believe he was talking to Hunter Brown.
03:37You let me know if you think he did this on purpose,
03:40or is this just an accident in the way that he's potentially challenging?
03:44Hunter Brown.
03:46No, you know, and there's always someone during the season,
03:49and in the years that I've been doing this,
03:51that there's someone, this one pitcher that gets an opportunity
03:54and just runs with it.
03:56Last year it was Jason Alexander,
03:57and Peter is kind of being that guy for us.
04:00He has stepped up, and he's been our ace,
04:03and he doesn't back down for a challenge.
04:06He goes after these hitters.
04:07He throws strikes.
04:09He's very competitive, and he's been really, really good.
04:28Now, I don't know, Tyler, if this is deliberate, if he did this on purpose,
04:33but everything he said is, Tyler, who is the ace on this team?
04:38That would be the diesel Hunter Brown.
04:40Big game.
04:41Yeah.
04:41What's been an issue for Hunter Brown here of late in his starts?
04:47All of it.
04:48Walks.
04:49Walks.
04:49Getting to the road in the fifth inning.
04:52His control so much.
04:54So, Clint's with the shoulder again.
04:57Allergic to the strikes.
04:58He walked six guys his last career high last time out.
05:02Yikes.
05:03Four or five before that start.
05:04Not as bad as Frammer, but yikes.
05:07Yep.
05:0817, 17, between 17 to 20 walks his last three starts.
05:13So, he came out here and replaced the ace in his comments.
05:18He came out here and said he goes after these guys.
05:22He's throwing strikes.
05:24He's competitive.
05:25Tyler, you know Joe as much as we do.
05:28Do you think Joe knew what he was doing and did this deliberately,
05:34or you think I'm giving too much credit to Joe?
05:36Or do you think this is just an accident and Joe legit was just talking about
05:40Peter Lambert?
05:40You might be giving him a little too much credit.
05:43But I cannot say at all that it's not possible that he was sending a message
05:49because, as you said earlier, I mean, this is a blueprint for a coach,
05:53a manager.
05:54This is a blueprint on how to get a guy fired up.
05:57So, I kind of hope he did it purposefully and not just on accident.
06:01Bill Belichick would routinely make Tom Brady feel like Chad Pennington was better than him.
06:05He would routinely.
06:07He has more receptions.
06:08Routinely.
06:08Can't be turning the ball over.
06:09Are we giving too much credit to Joe?
06:12No, no, you're not.
06:13This is one time I got to agree with you.
06:16I can't go captain, but this is great.
06:18Because, look, the reality of it is there's no world.
06:21There's no world in MLB baseball where you have Hunter Brown or anybody else of that ilk,
06:29of that caliber, the manager then steps to the podium and slam is our ace.
06:36He's been our ace.
06:37There's no world that that happens unless it's calculated.
06:43He is.
06:44No, no, no.
06:45There's definitely some truth to it.
06:47But, hell, you could argue that right now is the worst time ever to say,
06:53boy, Peter's been our ace, to take a shot at your ace.
06:56He's really in a rough patch, right?
06:58So, if anything, you would steer, unless it's calculated,
07:00you would steer away from saying Peter Lambert has been your ace, right?
07:05He didn't check up off.
07:05No, he didn't check up at all.
07:06He said he was his ace and then gave context to why he said it.
07:10That was a no-brainer.
07:10So, yeah, no, it's got to be calculated.
07:13I give credit to Joe Espada.
07:15But, assuming that big game Hunter Brown is not injured, is not having problems,
07:21is feeling something odd, assuming that this is just a rough patch in his season,
07:26he heard what Joe Espada said, and I would imagine the way that he's wired,
07:31he's going to respond in a very motivated manner.
07:34So, not only do I think Joe Espada said it in a calculated manner,
07:39I think it's going to land with Hunter Brown,
07:42and he's going to be much more motivated come next start.
07:45It just happened to be pure coincidence that he happened to just name the things
07:48that Hunter's been struggling with.
07:52Text line coming through.
07:54He meant for the season.
07:56Lambert has been the ace.
07:57Hunter Brown was injured for more than half the season.
07:59Still had a baseball left.
08:01Okay.
08:02Listen, I'm not going to lie to you.
08:03I said it earlier.
08:05There is some drama and messiness in my ears.
08:10I do watch Real Housewives of Atlanta.
08:14The showman.
08:15Teen Mom for 12 years before I had to check out.
08:18Oh, no, Joe.
08:20I judged you hard for that.
08:22I'm sorry.
08:22I judged you.
08:23I did, man.
08:23I judged the hell out of you for that.
08:25Teen Mom.
08:25I moved into Teen Mom OG, man.
08:27I had to check out Amber.
08:28I really did.
08:29She must have been hot.
08:31No, she is not.
08:31But she just got a little too crazy.
08:33What was her one redeeming quality?
08:35I'm just saying.
08:35I'm just saying.
08:36I mean, it was Gary, man.
08:38She'd be the hell out of Gary.
08:40But I'm just saying.
08:42I got a little drama in my ears.
08:44I hope he was doing that.
08:46I mean, he was.
08:47The only thing that would have just really sealed it, fellas, if he said.
08:51And if we had to start game one in a series, I'd start Pete.
08:54That would have been the only.
08:55If he had said that, I'd have made it too obvious.
08:57Yeah, he stopped short of that.
08:59I love Big Pete getting all this attention and love, man.
09:02But if Dusty Baker did that, I would 100% believe Dusty was sending a message.
09:11Dusty used to try to challenge.
09:13He would challenge Chaz all the time.
09:16I mean, I would think if Tommy Lasorda did that, I would think he is sending a message.
09:24Well, look, I mean, even Joe Aspott is not wild enough to do it without being calculated.
09:30I think Joe, man, Joe got him a glass of red wine up in there.
09:33And he said, here we go, fellas.
09:36Here we go.
09:37Yeah, man.
09:38He's been our ace, boy.
09:39He'll throw strikes.
09:41He'll throw strikes.
09:42Not like these other yahoos, including that guy who used to be our ace.
09:49But the part about it is, though, is whether he did this or not, again, I'm with you, Clint.
09:58There felt like there was something to this.
10:02There were choices.
10:03He could have gone in a different direction.
10:05I do think this is something that a Hunter Brown responds to.
10:10Absolutely.
10:10I think he's the type of player, like I brought up Belichick with Brady.
10:15I think Belichick knew, like, yeah, man, Matt Sanchez, man, we can't get past Matt Sanchez.
10:21We got my mentor, Justin Verlander, up out of here.
10:26Y'all let Frambo Valdez walk.
10:28It's my time.
10:29I'm the dude.
10:30And you talking about Peter Lambert?
10:32Absolutely he hears you.
10:33No question.
10:34That man used to just say, we just need better player of the quarterback position.
10:39Like, time ain't got no name.
10:41Simple as that.
10:43I don't know, but go ahead, Joe.
10:46I feel like, when does Hunter pitch Saturday?
10:48I feel like Hunter's about to let it cut loose.
10:50My buff boy, Hunter Brown.
10:52He's going to give it everything he's got.
10:53He said, Hunter, why don't you go challenge pitchers, hitters?
10:57Well, I hope he doesn't overdo it.
10:58Yeah, you're right.
10:59He's going to try to throw a hundred at him.
11:00Settle in, big fella.
11:02Five o'clock fire coming up next.
