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Kylie Season 1 Episode 2
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00:00And I thought, uh-oh.
00:04Uh-oh.
00:07She's too cute and good for him, and he's too bad and hot for her.
00:13Yeah, well, I think people are going to be a bit shocked.
00:18Kylie Minogue has come out and said that she has never used hard drugs.
00:23Do you ever try and tempt her to do anything harder?
00:27What were the names of her like?
00:30It's fun.
00:38She can do what she wants.
00:39I never tend anybody to do anything.
00:41She's on a real high herself.
00:42She doesn't need anything.
00:44How much fun?
00:45It's a lot of fun.
00:51According to some newspapers, I read you've discovered sex.
00:54Would you like me to comment further on that?
00:56Yes, I would.
00:57Um, well, no, I can't, sorry.
01:00What are you trying to get to?
01:03How devilish was I?
01:06I was devilish enough.
01:14Let's get your sister out of the way very quickly.
01:16Is she in love?
01:17Love you love you love you love you love you.
01:18She was this sexy rock god that men and women just went, ugh.
01:24Love you love you, love you love you.
01:25She just oozed confidence and confidence is sexy.
01:30Love you love you.
01:32In her world back then, confidence was just everything.
01:36How can I do that really love you?
01:40But I remember, I just thought she'd fallen head over heels.
01:45That's for sure.
02:01Yeah, okay, it's okay.
02:03We are now on the Orient Express on June 26th.
02:07This is an American couple filming this young Australian couple
02:11who are here to have a great time.
02:14You're on the air.
02:17Yes, he was this wild guy,
02:20but his intention was good,
02:22even if we weren't being so good.
02:25Everything was done with a lot of love.
02:30They've drunk all the champagne.
02:36I had so many firsts with him.
02:41I never felt like I had blinkers on.
02:46But he took them off.
02:55I was at the perfect age.
02:56I was 21 years old.
03:03That's nice.
03:16He was hilarious.
03:22And cultured and tender.
03:29I love seeing the ones that are, that's not the shot.
03:34The moments around the shot.
03:40I just felt like I had my person there.
03:43Did you film you?
03:45I really did.
03:47Movie star.
03:49Oh.
03:49Movie star in Italy.
03:51In Italy.
03:51You can see it in any pictures from then as well.
04:00Maybe life wasn't going so fast for a second.
04:03Because I remember all of it.
04:06Like being on that boat in Hong Kong
04:09with that feeling of promise.
04:13It felt like a jewel.
04:16If you dropped it, it would smash.
04:17But if you protected it.
04:21It could shine.
04:27Are you going to marry her?
04:29It would be nice to be proposed to.
04:31But I don't know.
04:32We'll have to see.
04:43At the time I got in to see NXS recording in the studio.
04:49And I loved it.
04:52I loved being in amongst that.
04:56I felt like I'd discovered a tribe.
04:59Thought it was amazing to see them write songs together
05:02and have ownership over the end result.
05:06You know, we're pretty much equal.
05:08We tend to discuss things.
05:09I'll say, I think this.
05:11And if they all go, oh yeah, we agree with that.
05:13Then we'll go into songs.
05:16It must be that way.
05:17You have to enjoy yourself.
05:21Then it was like a light bulb.
05:27I wanted to express myself more.
05:29And I just hadn't had that before.
05:39I knew this was the turning point.
05:44She had a rock star boyfriend.
05:47Michael gave her the confidence to be confident.
05:50Whatever I did, I knew she wasn't going to like.
05:54Remember the old days.
05:58Remember the old days.
05:59Snare drumming.
06:01Bit of guitar.
06:03Bit more guitar.
06:06Here's a hi-hat.
06:09I'd started making noise.
06:12I've got an idea.
06:13I mean, what about this and what about that?
06:16We had no time to discuss anything.
06:18Because we're, you know, we didn't have the time.
06:22I became really frustrated.
06:24It felt like fighting against the system.
06:28I know I've had 15 number ones.
06:31I know we've had 142 top 20s.
06:34I mean, I've lost count.
06:36I wanted to explore different ideas, be open to change.
06:41That's not what the public want.
06:42That's not what the public want.
06:43The public want I should be so lucky.
06:47Oh, well, um, I'm just tired of playing it so safe.
06:53And I should be allowed to speak.
06:56Should be allowed to have some input.
06:59Just to be able to have something to do with my work, you know.
07:03Not just be the face for it.
07:11It's like someone was strangling any creativity that I had.
07:18And by being forced to be quiet, shut up and listen, I learnt a lot that way.
07:26And so, things don't change.
07:29I won't be here anymore.
07:35Unless I could have things my way.
07:40Listen, I have two daughters.
07:43And at some point, the old man don't know as much as they do.
07:50That's called growing up.
07:52I didn't used to be able to say no.
07:55You do now.
07:56I certainly do now.
07:59Yeah, I do.
08:06I was reclaiming my sense of self.
08:13And that's when I discovered that there were many more Kylies out there.
08:19It's upon the hour to come amongst you and amaze you with absolute incredible round as well.
08:25Time's out.
08:25Look out.
08:26Here we go.
08:30I think my manager had said,
08:34There's a Kylie Knight.
08:36There's a Kylie Knight.
08:36And I'd never heard of a Kylie Knight.
08:39I'm like, what?
08:50There's drag performers dressed as you.
08:53Do you want to go?
08:54Yeah.
08:59It was like, wow.
09:07Like supersonic versions of me.
09:14and this was a time when it was in to really not like me
09:23and i ended up on stage at this drag bar and i felt like the least kylie there
09:30yeah i thought i gotta step it up i gotta get some lashes on and some eyeliner or something
09:40pete waterman had been badgered sufficiently to go all right kid what do you want what kind
09:45of music do you want to make and i think that might be the first time he really asked me
09:49that
09:50i just had had enough
09:54she was going to clubs she's now part of that whole club scene
10:01if you're in that you're going to want your records to sound like that
10:09why do you think it suits people to portray you as some kind of bimbo because it's easy and then
10:13i'm not a threat to them there's something pretty remarkable about young kylie minogue
10:20gossip columnists write her off as the singing budget well the budgie's feathers are ruffled
10:27monday 29 jam 10 30 sharp remember that gig
10:35we caught ourselves singing budgies i remember what i was wearing my amazing shiny tights
10:43that i was obsessed with i remember michael being smacked bang in the middle of the crowd
10:51kylie's got this real sweet innocent image
10:55and it's really not the person that people think she is and there's a lot of strength
11:00singing bud you know it's a horrible title whoever wrote that is probably fat and bald and 50 years
11:06old but they look 70 and they've got bad breath and can't control themselves um
11:12and they're probably jealous
11:17we've gone from i should be so lucky to kylie the diva in one foul swoop she wanted to see
11:25the video
11:25makers she wanted her own starters the guys that we've worked with here for years she just went i'm not
11:31working with those guys whether it's stylists or photographers or whoever i'm working with them
11:39rather than just being force-fed their ideas
11:42i was running from the 80s the sheen of it the era of it the puppeteering or the having no
11:54substance
11:56and as soon as i had my image in my little grasp
12:02i've got to turn into a lunatic
12:14those two bars that we heard there the first time anybody said your new single in this country
12:19had a videotape to go with you well yeah that's being sent over tomorrow actually and it's quite different
12:25oh my god oh my god this is it this is the moment holy mary mother of god
12:34i guess i was taking the power back
12:44yeah just saying all right let's go
12:51okay um reports please oh my god the press are gonna like ban it i think it's gonna be bad
12:56i know
12:56it's gonna be terrible you're gonna hate it no what's your dad gonna say
13:03it's gonna be bad
13:11harley minogue of a squeaky clean next-door neighbor kicks off her tour tonight
13:15she'll be putting her new look and new sound and through their paces
13:25what can the fans expect it's lots of fun it's just um an hour and a half of
13:30letting go and just enjoying themselves the papers in england have been saying your show's raunchier
13:35this time is that right well they've gone a little extreme it's not an x-rated show or anything
13:42is that what i was wearing like really raunchy outfits
13:52she couldn't have picked a worse thing to do
13:56kylie arrived by coach in dublin after a four-hour journey from belfast
14:02it's great to finally be here there's a lot of talk about a changing image for kylie minogue yeah
14:07i saw that in the paper today nice hair to yvonne thank you
14:17so what can people expect when they come to see you
14:23well
14:26lots of choreography fabulous costumes my outfits have been designed by john galliano
14:32after checking her out seeing how she danced how she moved getting to know her personality i went
14:38away and um did some drawings so her first outfit was very inspired by lolita
14:47and it's worn over a frilly bra and um body slip with built-in knickers
14:55and everybody's going oh this is i'm going no no no whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa this is kylie's wish
15:01ready five six seven eight this is what she wants to do
15:13she's gonna find out for herself
15:17i don't want people to know what to expect actually i want them to come with an open mind
15:22um
15:39yeah it was we went a bit far i'm not gonna lie we went a bit far
15:50I mean, maybe it was good in real, but it didn't look good in a freeze frame.
15:58I'm going to defend it with that.
16:05Does that help?
16:06I think it does help.
16:12But I know what you're going to cut to.
16:17Now our next guest shocked her young fans by strutting across the stage in some of this
16:22skit.
16:22I don't have to describe it too much.
16:24Kylie, good morning.
16:25Hi, how are you?
16:25I'm very well.
16:26How do you react?
16:27I mean, did you read all the criticism or did you throw most of it away?
16:31I saw some of it.
16:36They say that you look a bit like Madonna now, or you're trying to model yourself in
16:40Madonna.
16:40Well, when we're saying they, we're talking about tabloid praise.
16:44That was tricky to defend those decisions.
16:54With your new tourney, there is such controversy.
16:57Yeah, I'm a bit surprised.
17:02She kind of went too far prancing around the Dublin stage in lingerie.
17:06She went from the girl next door to the girl next door who's been around the flock.
17:12It's much raunchier than it was.
17:14Yes.
17:14I mean, I don't really like to call myself raunchy.
17:17We've just seen your raunchy new video.
17:20That new raunchy image.
17:21It's certainly fairly raw, isn't it?
17:24Raw?
17:24Raw.
17:25Well, raw as in, as in raunchy, I mean.
17:28There was a time when you thought, well, you said you were raunchier than your sister.
17:33She's changed the image, hasn't she?
17:35Yeah, she has lately.
17:36I remember thinking, this is so boring, repetitive, stupid.
17:47To hear that Kylie Minogue is too sexy, it's a bit like hearing that Mary Poppins has turned
17:52into a hooker.
17:55I mean, imagine you just show up to work every day and you just, what?
18:01There's even been speculation in Australia that you've had a boob job.
18:06Oh, dear.
18:08One magazine even went as far as showing before and after shots.
18:15It's exhausting.
18:19And then as a female pop artist, if you say something, you're a bitch, you've got an ego,
18:26you're a diva.
18:28Any motor accompanying?
18:29No, well, you know, if you're going to interview me, having researched tabloid newspapers,
18:36there's no point talking to me because I didn't see loads of mothers storming out with their
18:40children.
18:41And if you're a guy and you say, shut up, that's not true, people go, fair enough, he's
18:45right.
18:46One mother.
18:47One mother.
18:47So I get questioned.
18:48God, well, you know, parents are storming out with the kids.
18:51It's rubbish.
18:54I am disappointed at the moment because I'm not trying to, I'm trying to be myself.
19:02But whenever the going got tough, I had that love and support from Michael.
19:09In Excess is the first non-American group to land six consecutive top 10 hits in the Hot
19:16100 since Culture Club in 1983-84.
19:20Nice.
19:21Really?
19:24But Michael was touring all over the world.
19:28So it became really hard for us to see each other.
19:41So I would send video messages to him.
19:46Is it telling you it's low light?
19:48One, two, three.
19:51Kylie says hello to Michael.
19:55What moment he wants?
19:56Hi.
19:57Hi.
19:58Hi.
19:59Hi.
20:00Hi.
20:00Hi.
20:00Hi.
20:01Hi.
20:01Hi.
20:02Hi.
20:17Hi.
20:18My mother, she bereaved."
20:19And at the very best, who knows?
20:29Who knows?
20:30Who knows?
20:30I was standing.
20:34You were there.
20:35He was the first in so many ways.
20:37You were there.
20:40And we can never tear up.
20:44And one of those firsts was,
20:47a heartbreak.
20:54I was devastated.
21:00He was a rock star,
21:02which doesn't just mean
21:05that he needs to have
21:06many women in his life,
21:07but he needed to
21:09go where he needed to go.
21:15But I know from people
21:16in his circle
21:18that he talked of me
21:21and thought of me.
21:27We were good together.
21:32Shoulda, woulda, coulda,
21:33whatever, you know,
21:34you go on and live your lives,
21:38but it was definitely
21:39an amazing point in time.
21:42And I've probably been
21:44looking for something
21:44like that ever since
21:45and haven't got it.
21:50Really?
21:52Yeah.
21:53Can I ask,
21:54when you think of them today,
21:56what does it make you feel?
22:02Good, even if I'm getting teary,
22:04because it's just,
22:04it's like,
22:06it was all good.
22:09Yeah?
22:10Well, to have
22:12someone that you really felt
22:13like you were a good team.
22:16Yeah.
22:20Anyway, we've got to go past that.
22:27I didn't know where to go,
22:28what to do.
22:30And I didn't want to be in London,
22:31I didn't want to be in Australia.
22:33And so,
22:35I went to Paris.
22:38I remember having a tiny
22:40English to French dictionary.
22:44I didn't know anyone there,
22:46but I had two phone numbers
22:48scratched on a bit of paper.
22:50And one of those numbers was
22:52a friend of a friend
22:54of a friend of a friend of mine.
23:01And
23:03she lived with a girl
23:04called Kat.
23:06My best,
23:07oldest girlfriend,
23:08Katarina Jeb,
23:09whose apartment we're in.
23:12Kat doesn't like to be
23:14in front of a camera.
23:15I'm out of here.
23:15Ah, tout Ă l'heure.
23:16Tell me if you need anything.
23:18OK.
23:20I'll wail,
23:21but she is
23:22an amazing photographer
23:23with an incredible eye
23:25and heart.
23:27Corners.
23:28Corners and corners.
23:29More corners.
23:31And we say corners.
23:33Love from all corners.
23:37Kat Jeb,
23:38Prince.
23:38What do we have here?
23:39Paris.
23:44I moved myself
23:45into her apartment.
23:47I got a sleeping bag.
23:48I slept on the sofa.
23:51I was feeling
23:52heartbroken
23:53and was escaping
23:55my feelings.
23:58But we would do
24:00photo sessions.
24:03Just the two of us.
24:06I didn't know
24:07who she was
24:08because of my
24:08exposure to pop culture.
24:10It was not very
24:12voluminous.
24:14But it was
24:16an instantaneous
24:17understanding.
24:22going for it?
24:23I don't know.
24:26I've been the subject
24:27pretty much
24:28my entire life.
24:31But this was
24:32different.
24:34We're not doing it
24:36because someone's
24:36asked for it.
24:39We're doing it
24:40because we want
24:40to do it.
24:42the public persona
24:44versus the private
24:45persona.
24:46How many people
24:47can unveil
24:48themselves
24:49completely unfiltered?
24:53I'd been
24:53doing very dark
24:55lashes and kind of
24:55bouffant.
24:56And it was Kat
24:57who said to me,
24:58what about
24:59just let your hair
25:00just let the curls
25:02out or maybe
25:03less of the brows
25:04and then I went
25:05like to nothing.
25:08Even though a
25:09photograph can
25:10capture a moment,
25:11can capture a story,
25:12it's really hard
25:13to see yourself.
25:15There's this
25:16camera, there's
25:17a wall,
25:18you see through it,
25:19you can't see it,
25:20but there's a divide.
25:24And I felt with hers
25:25the invisible wall
25:27is gone.
25:30And I was looking
25:31through Kat's
25:32photographs
25:33and I thought,
25:34wow, I can see me.
25:37She was a real
25:38saviour to me.
25:40I started to feel
25:42good and confident
25:44as a woman
25:45on my own.
25:49She has called it
25:50the end of an era
25:51and they have
25:52refused to comment.
25:53But Kylie Minogue's
25:54relationship with
25:55Pete Waterman Limited,
25:56her record company
25:56of five years,
25:57has ended.
25:59Kylie told MTV News
26:01that PWL found it
26:02hard to accept
26:02the changes.
26:03To be honest,
26:05I wasn't sad.
26:06And I remember,
26:07honestly,
26:08I'm not telling you,
26:09I had to sit with
26:10the staff here
26:10and explain
26:11that at some point
26:13you left home
26:14from your mum and dad.
26:16Well, this is Kylie
26:17leaving home
26:18from my mum and dad
26:19and making it
26:20out on her own.
26:20That's all it is.
26:21And that's part
26:22of growing up.
26:24you know,
26:25so,
26:25um,
26:32we've come to an end.
26:33Things do come to an end,
26:35you know?
26:40I signed to
26:41Deconstruction Records.
26:45They had a very
26:46independent feel.
26:47Kylie,
26:48how are you doing
26:49nice to meet you?
26:52They were open
26:54to experimentation
26:56and wanted me
26:57to be much more
26:58involved.
27:01And we talked
27:02about a very
27:03different vocal delivery.
27:15I hadn't done
27:15those kind of
27:16notes before,
27:17but it was like,
27:18feel the fear
27:19and do it anyway.
27:27I'd never done
27:28anything like that.
27:38Kylie Minogue
27:39returns to the
27:39pop scene this week
27:41with a new record
27:42and a new sound.
27:49The new album,
27:50Kylie Minogue,
27:51has widely been
27:52greeted as,
27:53you know,
27:53your bid to become
27:54treated as a serious
27:55artist.
27:56Is that how you see it?
27:57Ah.
28:03I can use
28:03whatever language
28:04I like.
28:16If Kylie Minogue
28:17represents the
28:18Australian dream,
28:19then Nick Cave
28:20is surely
28:21the Australian nightmare.
28:27Attracting a cult
28:28following with his
28:28twisted lyrics
28:29and darkly wasted
28:30image.
28:33all the way
28:34down to the
28:34end.
28:37I think,
28:38I think those
28:39songs are written
28:39with a fair amount
28:40of disgust
28:41for things,
28:41yeah.
28:48Because I'm
28:48pretty disgusted
28:49person.
28:56Look,
28:56I was
28:58an observer
29:01and I just
29:02always liked her.
29:03Whenever I saw her
29:04on the TV,
29:05there was something
29:06about her that I
29:07liked.
29:09But, you know,
29:09I didn't sit around
29:10and listen to her
29:11records or anything.
29:12I wasn't like a fan
29:13fan.
29:16But there was
29:17something that I
29:17recognised in her
29:18that I responded to.
29:22But you just don't
29:23like to be
29:23photographed?
29:24No, I don't
29:24really.
29:25So, let's move it
29:27along here.
29:29There was a strange
29:31thing with Kylie
29:31because even though
29:32she had mass appeal,
29:34you know,
29:35she had everything
29:36but credibility.
29:37And I looked at her
29:41because I had
29:42credibility but not
29:44much else.
29:52At that time,
29:53I was writing a bunch
29:54of murder songs.
29:56So, I had a kind
29:58of audacious idea
29:59for Kylie Minogue
30:01to do a murder
30:02ballad.
30:04Dear, hello.
30:06But there was
30:07terrible opposition
30:08from management
30:10and so forth
30:11that this is just
30:12a fucked up idea,
30:13which it was.
30:15This is cool.
30:17Storyboard for
30:18where the wild roses
30:19grow.
30:20This is so cool.
30:22Nick observes
30:23Kylie's face
30:24and body in water.
30:26I was a well-known
30:27sort of drug addict.
30:29Close-up angle
30:30static, Kylie lays
30:31in water, tear on
30:31cheek, flies possibly
30:33buzz around face.
30:34And the nature
30:34of the song,
30:35it was dubious.
30:37Close-up static,
30:39Nick reaches for rock
30:40again.
30:43Yeah, I mean,
30:43that's always been
30:44close to my heart.
30:46Nick reached out
30:47and I was like,
30:50who?
30:51Like, huh?
30:52I was not the demographic
30:54of Nick Cave
30:54and the Bad Seeds
30:56fan club.
30:58But there is
30:59an Australian thing.
31:00They just do shit,
31:02right?
31:02They just do stuff.
31:03And they don't think
31:04about it too much.
31:05They just give stuff
31:06a shot, you know.
31:07And she's like,
31:09yeah, okay.
31:10And...
31:11I was...
31:12I was naive.
31:13I didn't know.
31:17We were waiting
31:18for her to come
31:19into the studio.
31:22I don't think anyone
31:24had met Kylie before.
31:27And the Bad Seeds,
31:29we were a dark force.
31:33This group of weird,
31:35fucked up,
31:36sort of broken men.
31:39And a lot of drugs
31:40and a contemptuous,
31:42pessimistic view
31:44of the world.
31:46But when she came
31:48into the studio,
31:51she was like
31:52this sort of
31:53beam of light.
31:58With this incredible
32:00positivity.
32:04I don't think
32:05we'd ever met
32:06anyone in our lives,
32:08really,
32:08that liked life.
32:13Just this sort of
32:14bold brightness.
32:17And we were really,
32:19we were terrified
32:20or offered
32:21to some degree.
32:23On the first day
32:24I saw her,
32:26I knew she was...
32:26And when she went
32:27to record,
32:28she sang
32:29in a kind of
32:30Kylie-esque,
32:33trained,
32:33a lot of vocal tricks,
32:35I guess.
32:36And we were like,
32:38look,
32:38forget all that,
32:39just sing it straight.
32:41When he knocked
32:42on my door
32:43and entered the room
32:46Sing it less,
32:47like almost
32:48make it a story
32:51and be a character.
32:56And she just
32:57did this version
32:58of it
32:59that so beautifully
33:00haunted the whole thing.
33:01We were just
33:06staggered.
33:18Good evening
33:19and we have something
33:20very special for you
33:21tonight on Top of the Pops.
33:24I remember doing
33:25Top of the Pops.
33:27I think you can see
33:28by the performance
33:29I don't know
33:30what's going on.
33:32I'm just sort of
33:33bumbling around.
33:35You know,
33:36the people that turned up
33:37to my concerts
33:38were psychos.
33:40We would be taking
33:41iron bars
33:42and scissors
33:43and knives
33:44off people
33:44in the front row.
33:45So I know
33:47about a dangerous audience.
33:50But I've never
33:51experienced anything
33:52like Kylie Minogue's
33:55audience.
33:56They were terrifying.
34:00Just these
34:01sort of monstrous,
34:03awful teenage girls.
34:06They did not like me.
34:09They did not like me
34:10to go near
34:10their princess.
34:12Well,
34:12Nick gets worried
34:13that my fans
34:15didn't like him
34:16or didn't like the project.
34:17I don't think that's so.
34:20And these little girls
34:21are like,
34:21you fucking old bastard.
34:23What are you doing?
34:24You horrible old cunt.
34:26They're just evil.
34:28So I couldn't help
34:30but throw my arms
34:31around Kylie.
34:34And they're just
34:35running their fingers
34:36across their throats
34:37and saying,
34:37just don't.
34:39and then they'd
34:40turn the cameras
34:40towards them
34:41and they'd all be like,
34:42hey!
34:45Finally,
34:45with Nick Cave
34:46and the Bad Seeds.
34:47Right, well done.
34:48Evil.
34:49Evil people.
34:55I'm a hell of a lot
34:55better for seeing you.
34:58Did you read about us
34:59in the paper?
35:00No.
35:02Apparently we're
35:02snogging.
35:09More snogging
35:10than singing
35:10was the thing.
35:13Our worlds collided.
35:15But it was
35:15like another kind of
35:18love.
35:23I'm going to sound like
35:24I'm just falling in love
35:25all the time
35:25but it was
35:26really
35:30some kind of union
35:31that wasn't
35:33romantic.
35:36I think we recognised
35:38a vulnerability
35:39in each other
35:42that we were
35:43sort of
35:43I think at that time
35:45trying to
35:47escape.
35:49I was locked
35:50into a kind of
35:51lifestyle
35:52that was becoming
35:53increasingly problematic.
35:57with Kylie
35:59I could see
36:00the world
36:04in a positive way.
36:11I'd like to invite now
36:12Miss Kylie Minogue
36:13to come up here.
36:18I think she wanted
36:19to break free
36:21from the sort of
36:22constraints that she
36:24thought she was
36:25imprisoned by.
36:30prisoner of an image
36:34that she was a sort
36:35of brainless
36:37pop
36:38pablum
36:39you know
36:39mush
36:40but she had
36:42things to say
36:44particularly
36:44with the lyrics
36:45it's like
36:46the most important
36:47thing you can do
36:48really.
36:48And if you're
36:49writing your own
36:50lyrics
36:50you don't have
36:50other people's
36:51thoughts coming
36:51out of your mouth
36:52sort of defining
36:53yourself in a way
36:54Nick Cave
36:55says to me
36:56where are your
36:57lyrics?
37:00I'm not really
37:01fully fleshed
37:01somewhere yet.
37:03If you feel
37:03things then you're
37:04able to write them
37:06so I hope
37:07you do that
37:07Kylie.
37:09You know what
37:10I did find?
37:11Lyrics.
37:13I remember
37:14trying to write
37:15something that
37:16would talk to
37:16me.
37:19I wanted to be
37:20your lonesome
37:21cowboy.
37:21I wanted to
37:21love you till it
37:22hurt.
37:24That was a lyric.
37:25That's not my
37:26writing.
37:26Someone else's
37:27written in my book.
37:27She wanted to be
37:28stopped in time
37:29suspended.
37:29It was the best
37:30ever night of it.
37:31And I said that
37:32obviously didn't
37:32make it.
37:33I mean it's
37:35really terrible.
37:36This is going to
37:37sound really terrible
37:37when I say it out
37:39loud.
37:39You just can't
37:39wait can you?
37:41Who would have
37:41thought that
37:43little girl would
37:44end up living out
37:45her wildest dreams?
37:46Sometimes it sounds
37:47really not so great
37:49saying it.
37:50There's a lot of
37:50absolute tosh in
37:52here.
37:53There's got to be
37:54something in here.
37:56I wanted to
37:57sometimes be
37:59irresponsible.
38:00I wanted to own
38:02the choice I made.
38:03Quite revealing.
38:05In what way?
38:08If it's not
38:09self-explanatory
38:10it's not very
38:10revealing at all.
38:15But then I
38:15caught something
38:16from the creative
38:17ether.
38:18Got up in this
38:19house, trapped
38:20my very old self
38:20and snare my mind.
38:21It felt like
38:23a file
38:25was just like
38:26coming out of me.
38:27Oh gosh.
38:30It was like
38:31contained
38:33rage.
38:36I wanted to
38:37find a way to
38:38put an end to
38:39all of my
38:39destruction.
38:40I wanted to
38:41know what I was
38:42worth.
38:43She really was
38:44she, I.
38:49I was just
38:50really in it.
38:51I wasn't
38:52separate to the
38:53song.
38:54Well I would
38:54make it slower.
38:56And shorter.
38:59I really
39:00wanted to be
39:00more than
39:01one facet.
39:03I have so
39:04many characters
39:05lurking in my
39:05body it's
39:06frightening.
39:07I'm possessed.
39:12It was
39:13much more
39:13on the edge.
39:16I was
39:17very on the
39:17edge clearly.
39:19I didn't
39:20want to say it.
39:22What do you
39:23mean?
39:26Her new
39:27album.
39:28Two years in
39:29the making.
39:30Let's get this
39:31lady out here.
39:32The impossible
39:32princess herself.
39:33Ladies and
39:34gentlemen,
39:34Carly
39:34Manon.
39:36Have you
39:37totally disowned
39:38those really
39:38early songs
39:39now?
39:40I've actually
39:41not been able
39:41to say I
39:42should be so
39:42lucky in so
39:43many years.
39:44And in a
39:44way it was
39:45a slight
39:45exorcist.
39:48There was
39:49an honesty
39:50and a purity
39:50and a
39:51I'm just
39:52putting it
39:53all out
39:53there.
39:54Definitely
39:54the most
39:55personal work
39:56I've ever
39:57done.
39:58Is that
39:59more nerve
39:59wracking
40:00when it
40:00goes out?
40:01Yeah.
40:02Scary.
40:06And then I
40:07saw a
40:07billboard.
40:08You don't
40:09know about
40:09the billboard?
40:11There was a
40:12billboard that
40:13said we've
40:15decided what to
40:16do with Kylie's
40:16music.
40:18Don't play
40:19it.
40:24A royal
40:25slap.
40:26Quick test
40:27for sound
40:27if you
40:27alright?
40:28Yeah,
40:28go on.
40:28One, two,
40:28three, four,
40:29five.
40:29Hello, here
40:29we are
40:29with our
40:30records.
40:31You
40:31started?
40:31Yep,
40:32it's about
40:32to.
40:32Sorry.
40:35Okay.
40:36Kylie, if
40:37we could
40:37first start
40:37by asking
40:37you about
40:38the new
40:38album.
40:38I don't
40:39think I
40:39was on
40:39the radio
40:40at all.
40:41How did
40:41it all
40:41come about?
40:43Um, in
40:44fact, some
40:45stations were
40:45actively not
40:46playing me.
40:50in the
40:51house tonight
40:51wielding the
40:52new Mojica,
40:52Jason Donovan.
40:53You have to
40:54talk about Kylie
40:54do you follow
40:55her career
40:55and her kind
40:56of friendship
40:56with the latest
40:57album into
40:57doing some
40:58indie stuff?
40:58What do you
40:59think of that?
41:00It hasn't
41:00worked, I
41:01don't think.
41:04Kylie, Kylie.
41:07Kylie.
41:12Some people
41:13just want
41:14to watch
41:17you crumble
41:17and they're
41:18on to the
41:18next person.
41:19Pop,
41:20disposable,
41:20pop,
41:21disposable.
41:22Other
41:22two sensations
41:23seem to have
41:23come on.
41:23What do you
41:24think your
41:24appeal is?
41:26You'd be
41:27better off
41:28asking other
41:28people that
41:29than me.
41:30I can't be
41:31that self
41:32analytical
41:32or anything.
41:34Many, many
41:35times I
41:35just thought,
41:36I just
41:36honestly don't
41:37know if
41:37this is
41:38worth it.
41:39Just tell
41:40me about
41:40the album
41:40though.
41:41It's got
41:41overly
41:41imaginative
41:42title.
41:44And the
41:45minute you
41:45start trying
41:46to defend
41:46yourself,
41:49they've won.
41:55Excuse me,
41:56where are you
41:56from?
41:57Is that a
41:57serious question?
41:58Is there any
41:59truth that we're
42:00not talking?
42:00I find that
42:01so ridiculous.
42:05Do you think
42:06she's had it
42:06really in terms
42:07of the music
42:08industry?
42:08I never thought
42:09she had it in
42:09the first place
42:10really.
42:11I was making
42:12deconstruction,
42:13no money.
42:14Zippo?
42:15Nada.
42:15Rien.
42:16Nothing.
42:17So she's
42:19off the books.
42:21I thought,
42:22I'm going to
42:23act again
42:23because there
42:24was enough
42:25people who
42:26were thinking
42:26if not saying
42:27that's it.
42:29It's done.
42:50I got a
42:51phone call
42:52and yeah,
42:57I don't
42:58remember what
42:58words she said
42:59but it was
43:00like he's
43:01gone.
43:07I got the
43:08flight back
43:08to Sydney
43:09for the
43:10funeral.
43:13I just
43:14went,
43:15oh,
43:16that's another
43:16first.
43:17This is my
43:17first service
43:20that I've
43:20been to.
43:21Like,
43:22okay,
43:22always with
43:23the firsts,
43:24you know?
43:29We gather
43:30to mourn
43:31the death
43:32of someone
43:34whom most
43:35of us
43:35barely knew.
43:40we listened
43:41to him sing
43:43and felt
43:44that it was
43:45for us
43:45alone.
43:47We're here
43:48today to
43:49mourn the
43:49death
43:51of Michael
43:52Hutchence.
43:56It might
43:57seem
43:57disproportionate
43:58the emotion
43:59and the
44:00memories I
44:00have with
44:01him and
44:01with that
44:02time.
44:05But I
44:06just felt
44:06protected
44:07and nurtured
44:08and valued
44:09and believed
44:11in.
44:14Someone you
44:15counted on
44:16is gone.
44:17I remember
44:18being at the
44:19church and
44:20it was
44:20overwhelming,
44:22the outpouring
44:22of love for
44:23him.
44:24Someone who
44:24was your
44:25rock is
44:26no more.
44:27That's going
44:27to sound
44:27totally crazy
44:28but I felt
44:29him just
44:30saying,
44:31it's okay.
44:32It will be
44:33okay.
44:36I always
44:37feel he's
44:38with me.
44:41It's kind
44:42of crazy
44:42but I
44:42do.
44:46Which is
44:46so like,
44:47you can
44:49have
44:50relationships
44:50with,
44:52as I have
44:52had,
44:53you know,
44:53with different
44:54people but
44:54someone that
44:55really just
44:55believed in,
44:57believes in
44:58you so much.
45:03here's an
45:04important point.
45:06He really
45:06didn't want
45:07me to be
45:08someone else
45:09for him
45:10at all.
45:12He was
45:13encouraging
45:14me
45:16to discover
45:17me.
45:27Fuck.
45:42I had a
45:43kind of
45:43harebrained
45:44idea.
45:45Now without
45:46further ado,
45:47I'd like to
45:47introduce the
45:48first of the
45:49talented and
45:50totally diverse
45:51artists.
45:51I was asked
45:52to go and
45:52perform at
45:53this thing
45:54called the
45:54Poetry
45:54Olympics.
45:55Two days
45:57and nights
45:57of continuous
45:59poetry that
46:00was put on
46:01that at
46:02the Albert
46:03Hall.
46:04Here is a
46:05love that
46:06makes its
46:07bargain with
46:08bad habits.
46:09Tell me lies
46:10about Vietnam.
46:11You can have
46:12sex with
46:13anyone.
46:14But with
46:15whom can
46:16you sleep?
46:17This had
46:18some great
46:19poets in it
46:20but mostly
46:21it was just
46:21this endless
46:23worthy
46:25art.
46:37people have
46:38been sitting
46:39in their
46:39chairs I
46:39think for
46:40you know
46:41a day
46:42listening to
46:43this poetry.
46:46I was
46:47seeing Kylie
46:47quite a bit
46:48and I'm
46:51like why
46:51don't you
46:51come along
46:52and recite
46:52something.
46:54I was
46:55thinking are
46:55you mad?
46:57The
46:58sword
46:58and
46:58Damocles
46:59is hanging
46:59over all
47:00of us.
47:01This is
47:02not my
47:02world.
47:03I'm not
47:03from the
47:04literary
47:04world.
47:05In
47:05view
47:05of that
47:06what
47:06subject
47:06can
47:07we
47:07sensibly
47:07discuss?
47:09So I
47:10tried
47:10everything
47:10to get
47:11out
47:11of it.
47:12She
47:13said
47:13she
47:13tried
47:14to
47:14get
47:14out
47:14of it.
47:14Oh
47:14really?
47:15We
47:16weren't
47:16having
47:16any
47:16of
47:16that.
47:18for
47:18what
47:19is
47:19liberty
47:20without
47:20the
47:21liberty
47:21to
47:21pack?
47:22And I
47:22said to
47:23Nick
47:24God's
47:24on stage
47:25how do
47:25we
47:25follow
47:25that?
47:26He
47:26said
47:26Jesus
47:27did
47:27okay
47:28and
47:28then
47:29he
47:29went
47:29out.
47:36The
47:36way I
47:37remember
47:37it
47:37is
47:38that
47:38which
47:39I'm
47:39surprised
47:40I
47:40don't
47:40remember
47:40anything
47:40at
47:41all
47:41because
47:41we
47:41were
47:41so
47:42out
47:42of
47:42it.
47:49Thank
47:49you.
47:50You're
47:51going
47:51back
47:51to
47:51bring
47:51out
47:51a
47:52fling
47:52like
47:52Tony
47:53Mano
47:54ladies
47:54and
47:54gentlemen.
47:57She
47:57walked
47:58on
48:01this
48:01pop
48:02princess
48:03up
48:03against
48:04the
48:05most
48:05elitist
48:06art
48:07form
48:07there
48:07is
48:07of
48:08poetry.
48:08I
48:08want
48:08to
48:09thank
48:09you.
48:11Well
48:11I
48:11didn't
48:11expect
48:12to
48:12be
48:12here
48:12but
48:12I
48:13have
48:13come
48:14with
48:14words
48:14that
48:14I
48:15did
48:15not
48:15write
48:15which
48:16I
48:16shall
48:16read
48:16to
48:16you.
48:28In
48:28my
48:28imagination
48:30there
48:31is
48:31no
48:31hesitation
48:33I
48:34dream
48:34about
48:34you
48:34all
48:34the
48:35time
48:37and
48:37I
48:37could
48:38hear
48:38the
48:39recognition
48:40that
48:40the
48:41audience
48:41they
48:41were
48:41with
48:42me
48:42and
48:42with
48:43us
48:44in
48:45my
48:45imagination
48:45there
48:46is
48:46no
48:46complication
48:48we
48:48walk
48:49together
48:49hand
48:50in
48:50hand
48:50she
48:50just
48:51broke
48:51the
48:51night
48:51open
48:52and
48:52I'm
48:52dreaming
48:53that
48:53you're
48:54in
48:54love
48:54with
48:54me
48:55was
48:56poetry
48:57that
48:57we
48:57could
48:57understand
49:06there
49:08I
49:09think
49:14it was like
49:15being face
49:16to face
49:16with my
49:16old self
49:20the one
49:21that I was
49:21trying to
49:22turn my
49:22back on
49:26i don't know if i said this out but i you know what the fuck are you doing
49:29like indie i mean no one willingly wants to be indie
49:39they may say they do
49:47but that's not what kylie is you know kylie is this force
49:57that is there to affect thousands and thousands and thousands of people
50:05it's all outward it's all giving
50:11you have an enormous positive influence these people that go along to their first pop concert
50:17it's a life-changing moment where they feel something that they've never known before
50:25the great beauty of pop music is that it is a joy machine
50:34you've got the coolest guy on the planet
50:39saying where's the pop tunes
50:45right let's get the jetpacks on and let's get back to the dance floor
50:50but if this doesn't work i am finished
50:57i'm spinning around move out of my way i know you're feeling me cause you like it like this
51:04i'm breaking it down i'm not the same
51:08i know you're feeling me cause you like it like this
51:12i know you're feeling nervous
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