00:00The majority of Iranians that oppose the regime inside Iran, and that I estimate at least 60% or 70
00:10% of Iranians oppose this regime and want to live under a free regime, integrated into the Western world, not
00:18necessarily, you know, tied at the hip with the United States, but certainly not antagonistic with it.
00:25For most of those, the majority of Iranians, they feel, actually, what I have said in previous appearances, that it
00:38is that I'm not here necessarily to support the war because I'm a civil society activist, but I would say
00:46that I think analytically and historically, it's important to recognize.
00:50I don't think it's right to say that President Trump or Prime Minister Netanyahu started this war with Iran.
00:58I think they want to finish a war that Iran started 47 years ago in 1979 and that they've never
01:05ceased fighting, not against Israel, not against the United States, and not, more importantly for me, not against the majority
01:13of Iranian people who want to live under a different regime.
01:16So I think that, to bring it to our conversation today, I think the relationship with China, you know, that
01:25majority of Iranians will view this 25-year treaty or agreement that Iran had with China as taking Iran in
01:38the wrong direction,
01:39in the sense of joining what is becoming to be viewed as the axis of authoritarianism around the world, and
01:48most of those Iranians would prefer to be connected with the Western modern world.
01:53So I think that China plays a very important role, even for those Iranians inside Iran, because they see Iran
02:02being locked into a future, which I think, for them, they feel reduces their life chances, lessens their life chances,
02:11both materially and also in terms of personal freedoms and a thriving life.
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