00:10taking piston phone calls all morning long we got the two grand slam coming up at 725 chance to win
00:15some money with us maybe make your day a little better because that was sickening maybe you're
00:21sick over officiating i'm sick over blowing the lead pistons lost that game not the officials
00:27i'll i'll stand on that the pistons had done enough through 45 minutes to overcome officiating
00:37to overcome some egregious james harden you know off arm extension uh kicking out his legs on every
00:46three getting bailed out repeatedly and yet the pistons were sitting there sitting pretty up nine
00:52they got multiple shot clock violations uh karis laverd is somehow a go-to option late in the game
00:58i mean it they had it they had it on their home floor and they didn't make a shot from
01:04that point
01:04on and blew it and then lost in overtime still had a chance to make up for an ot and
01:08lost an ot
01:09so look i'm not telling you they got it right with a sar i'm not telling you they officiated the
01:13game
01:13at a high level i'm not not telling you it was a good game from the refs i'm just simply
01:18not letting
01:18them take it from the pistons when they lost it themselves i would like to add one thing that
01:24hasn't been brought up but i noticed it last night they did the third quarter thing again
01:29yeah they outscored the calves in every quarter except the third badly yep right yeah they got
01:35outscored by 12 points in the third quarter blew a lead that they had built up with some good defense
01:39in the first half let the game hang in the balance because you're right they they had the calves teetering
01:44they absolutely had the calves teetering and yet there it is at the end of the game
01:51yeah what was it an eight point lead at halftime and then you get outscored 32 to 20 in the
01:57third
01:58quarter charles barkley is doing the halftime show with his head in his hands because the calves are
02:04just throwing the ball away 20 points off do this hammer down second half and they don't do it no
02:12they don't and it's funny you said they were up eight at the half they were up as many as
02:1615 until
02:16you know who checked in the game persona non grata right jalen duran let's have the duran conversation
02:23and it's been ongoing but i felt like last night signified something jb bickerstaff finally pulled
02:31him in crunch time this is a player with a max contract looming whether you want to give it to
02:35him or not it's looming and they have stuck by him that was the least number of minutes he's played
02:41in his playoff career paul reid played 17 of the final 18 minutes of that basketball game
02:48have we have we crossed the point of no return with jalen duran
02:56in terms of a max contract absolutely i think we passed that one a long time ago
03:01in terms of him being a cornerstone of this team
03:08he can't be a number two there's no question about that the question is can he be a three
03:15is he a four because if and let me just go through this exercise with you and our listeners if
03:24you have
03:25another shooter one that consists it's not a you know a seven game stretch in the postseason or it's
03:33uh you know karis lavert who does it once out of every 30 games uh or it's you know duncan
03:42robinson who had his duncan robinson games but again you're not counting on him on a night in
03:49night out basis if you have that extra shooter how much better does it make jayland duran we talk
03:56about spacing when it comes to kade cunningham it also matters for spacing when it comes to
04:03a post player the problem i have with jayland duran is when he has that spacing and he has the
04:09ball in
04:10the post he has no moves right if it's not given to him on a silver platter because kade has
04:17attracted
04:18everything and founded jayland duran under the basket for a dunk he doesn't provide offense
04:27players like him don't translate to the current nba postseason format and the way the game is played
04:32period he's a bench guy in the postseason that's the i feel like i'm stating fact here no i think
04:39you
04:39are too and i think for the first time the couch coaches won jb bickerstaff agreed how else do you
04:46explain sitting an all-star 17 of the final 18 minutes of a gotta have it game at home it's
04:51the
04:51coach acknowledging begrudgingly you can't do it i can't play him i if i can't play during at the end
04:57of that game i can't pay during this offseason it's what happened with the sons and deandre ayton
05:04it's what happened with the pacers and roy hibbert the pistons learned this lesson a time ago with
05:09andre drummond a 22 year old center who made an all-star game we are passing the point of no
05:15return
05:15your coach is openly giving up on duran in this game and i'm not saying he's wrong to do so
05:19jb made
05:20the decision that was best for their chance to win the game but that is an indictment on duran that
05:25we
05:25have now seen from the organization it's one thing to have bill or tom or matt or whoever call in
05:32or you or me or tom or greg say it it's another when the coach is is with his actions
05:38admitting
05:39dude's not playable dude can't be on the floor with our season on the line that felt like a turning
05:45point maybe the point of no return it very well could be it'll be interesting to see what they
05:50do in cleveland and i mean do you go as far as not even starting him what's interesting you tell
05:59me
05:59of the three centers that regularly play for the pistons where is during in that hierarchy
06:06because i thought beef stew came in and hit a couple threes any he didn't take the bait uh when
06:13tyson took a swing at him he maintained his composure and didn't get himself tossed or flight you know a
06:18a flagrant or a technical i thought stew played okay i think he played okay and duran was a minus
06:2416
06:25the worst player of any piston right so to me the hierarchy has duran third that doesn't mean
06:31over 48 minutes there's not a spot for him right but that's not a guy who's playing big minutes or
06:37closeout minutes and finally jb agreed with us yeah i mean he's not the guy that you thought he was
06:43because he was an all-star that's not in the postseason you're not playing as an all-star your
06:49team is counting on you jb is counting on you he's the coach he's seen what you've done over 82
06:55regular
06:56season games but now through you know a seven game series with orlando through five games with
07:03cleveland you have been absolutely absent in every meaningful thing what's the bar for him now what
07:11would you be happy with i know we've lowered it so much i mean he was a guy that was
07:15i so if you're if
07:18you're just simply hoping for 10 and 10 this was a guy that averaged almost 20 points a game
07:24and double digit rebounds a game i know he was 20 and 10 and now he's half the man in
07:30the postseason
07:31right so so would you lose some respect or hold it against trajan langdon if they end up giving this
07:37guy at or near max money like i think it'd be a terrible decision i think it would really f
07:44this
07:44team up like it would screw them up i look at the thunder who everybody's chasing they're unbelievable
07:50starting next year chet holmgren's deal kicks in they'll have four players making more than 40
07:54million dollars a year sga jalen williams and chet holmgren their next highest paid player is isaiah
08:02hartenstein at 28 and a half and free agency like during can't be near those guys right so i asked
08:10you
08:10this question about the floor spacing and another shooter do you think this team would better would
08:19would have a chance of succeeding more if they had that shooter if they go big game hunting trophy
08:25hunting in in the offseason and they bring back paul reid and isaiah stewart one of those guys is
08:32your starter but jalen dur is not a part of the equation he's not on the team do you think
08:36they're
08:37better prepared for offseason play postseason play yeah sorry postseason play then they are now as
08:43currently constructed yes given what postseason basketball is i agree what what they would be
08:48losing in a world where they trade during because i'm not proposing that you just like no no you don't
08:52let him walk no and it may be hey we're we need to sign him to then trade him to
08:58utilize the weaponize
08:59the cap space but what you would be losing moving on from him is replaceable the question is
09:07what is his what's his market value at this point i know clint capella right is it not the most
09:15replaceable skill set pogo stick jump high yeah block shots catch oops you don't have a post game you
09:21don't have a face-up game you're not playable at the end of these playoff games i think it'd be
09:25malfeasance to actually keep them i i really do at this point like you look look to move him no
09:30matter
09:30what because the problem i have is i the nba playoffs are taking away his point production
09:36the nba playoff shouldn't be taking a while around taking away his rebounds right like to me i i to
09:43me that's a mental thing there's a there's an effort issue there um the the stakes have risen in the
09:48postseason in terms of needing to be aggressive and get the boards right and in the last three games
09:54he's had four two and five rebounds oh do you see who we have on hold right now bobby and
10:03westland bobby i
10:04believe i i waved bye to you the last time you called in good morning yeah yeah man i'm you're
10:09not gonna have to worry about that let me ask you this uh does cleveland have two seven footers
10:16yeah they got on the floor at the same time two good seven footers on the floor at the same
10:20time
10:21during this plan right yep i just wanted to answer that question so you want this 22 year old
10:27who's standing around with no play that's called his fourth year of nba play listen can i can i can
10:34i speak or is yours can i speak this is his first year improving from the years prior right no
10:41it's
10:42all about the money right don't give him money just call him a bum all of a sudden and there's
10:47no play
10:47so you're telling me offshore who can score worth a damn right who's only six nine all right then
10:56you got another big man who's the best one you call he's the third center who's only what six ten
11:02and yet he's able to score around seven footers oh okay okay so no come on man stop that what
11:09did
11:09he do you stop that paul reid has outplayed jaylen during saying i get on no say i get on
11:16you won't
11:17let me speak bobby you get more runway than most don't play this game okay can i am i talking
11:23now
11:23are you see you you want to you want to embarrass me you want to get me on the phone
11:27won't let me get
11:28my point across you want to dog during out call him trash at 22 right in his first major playoff
11:37game uh series or two and just say okay he's a bum ship him out of there well who the
11:43hell are you
11:44bringing in there now well paul reid's better than i'm watching it in front of our eyes and if
11:47you're not going to concede that point bobby i didn't say i didn't say he wasn't i didn't say
11:52he wasn't trash in the playoff what i'm saying to you sir is let's don't start this okay don't pay
11:59him 200 million blase spree that's not what the issue is i'm watching k cunningham dribble to the
12:07rim don't turn the damn ball over two or three times don't do this tell me what type of game
12:12tell me what type of game you was watching where you didn't see the top player on that team
12:17trying to ball over at the rim don't do this don't try to defend durin by dogging kate because
12:25they're in different stratospheres i'll talk about kate i'll talk about kate with you kate cunningham
12:30played 48 minutes scored damn near 40 points on good shooting okay i'm sorry i'm not going to
12:35crucify him okay see i'm not talking now i didn't say that all i'm saying to you sir is
12:42he turned the ball over at critical points in that damn game at the end of the game and he's
12:47the top player on the team so let's talk about what he did let's talk about what he did i
12:52would
12:52gladly talk about what he did go ahead what i'm saying what i'm saying sir is let's stop talking
12:58about okay he's not worth the money so he's not worth the money he's a bum all of a sudden
13:04he's not worth the money bobby you have to concede that okay i agree with you i agree with you
13:11okay
13:11let's stop be let's stop beating up on him let's talk about every damn player in that starting
13:16lineup bobby we got four hours i'll gladly spend time on kate on tobias on asar on and anybody you'd
13:22like but we're doing a during conversation right now and it's been the conversation this guy was
13:28an all-star in the regular season and has looked nothing like it in the postseason
13:33he is he's i don't know what else to say he you're right he has looked nothing like what we
13:40saw
13:40through 82 games for what we are seeing in the postseason and i'm not trying to embarrass bobby
13:47he's backing us down in the post give me my space give me my space the floor is yours dude
13:50but even
13:51he concedes by the end of the phone call yeah i can't pay him all this money no he hasn't
13:55played
13:55very well so what's the point of calling in all in a huff in 17 minutes let's just compare the
14:01stats
14:02and i know it's one game yeah in 17 minutes paul reid scored 10 points and had eight rebounds
14:08jaylen durin in 25 minutes had nine points five rebounds last game game four two rebounds
14:17and that happened in the first quarter no there's there's no defending durin i just wonder
14:22we've been saying it now jb acted on it he benched him he said he's not playable with his actions
14:27it's never going to say it publicly but when you sit a guy 17 of the final 18 minutes of
14:31a gotta
14:31have a game game five at home you're saying what we've been saying it's 97 one
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