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Shan, RJ, and Bobby took a look at some lingering questions surrounding the Cowboys, including the Pickens franchise tag, and CeeDee Lamb’s. They also played a round of DFW Overreaction or Not, from Corey Seager’s slump, to the Mavs draft plans, and more.
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00:00But both of you, both of you pointing out the same exact thing with a question mark after Dan Graziano
00:07asked some lingering questions left around the National Football League.
00:11Yeah, so it was the 10 lingering questions amongst a bunch of teams.
00:16And one of them was, you know, why didn't the Cowboys want to extend George Pickens?
00:20That was one question or that was one of the questions in this.
00:23And then they go down, you know, they're already paying lamb 34 million a year.
00:28Do you really want to carry the two highest paid receivers or two of the highest paid?
00:32You know, we know all that.
00:33But then you get down to the very end, the very end of it.
00:38Who knows if Pickens has another big year and lamb struggles with his health again.
00:45Maybe the Cowboys feel differently about both players a year from now.
00:52And I was like, if CD struggled with his health again, like, do we consider him injury prone?
00:59I don't.
01:01I know he got hurt.
01:02He got rolled up on.
01:05You know, what are you going to do about that?
01:06Find me the guy who doesn't get hurt of that play.
01:09Right.
01:09Yeah.
01:11There was a point where that used to be the discussion with Julius Jones.
01:15I remember Julius Jones got hurt the first couple of years he was here.
01:18And people were like, somebody fell on his leg in Baltimore.
01:22Somebody did it.
01:22Like, what are you supposed to do?
01:23And I always felt that way.
01:24And then there was a point where it's like he kept getting hurt.
01:27And it's like a it's it's the Hagelin point that you and him have fought over before about injury prone
01:31where it's like, can your body handle those like things or not?
01:36Because there are people who get landed on their leg and don't do that.
01:38But even still, that's that's concerning to me that he would put that in there.
01:43Well, there's two parts of it.
01:44There's the injury part that choppy raised the eyebrow and then the other part over a decision about one or
01:52both.
01:53Huh?
01:54Yeah.
01:54Right.
01:55So this is the Cowboys.
01:58What was it?
02:00Twenty two.
02:01This is Mari.
02:03Yeah, they they were heading into the twenty two season.
02:05They were annoyed with him being banged up all the time and other things.
02:12And they were like, is is he ready?
02:16CD to step up and be the guy, because if he is, we're going to pick him and we're going
02:21to go ahead and just make a move.
02:22And they re-signed Gallup that same offseason.
02:24I think that they had moved Amari.
02:28So it doesn't surprise me that they'd look at it and go, can we have the highest paid quarterback, two
02:34of the highest paid wide receivers, a couple highly paid offensive linemen and one of the higher paid tight ends?
02:40Like, can we have that or do we need to start like shifting some things?
02:42But the assumption has always been probably pickings that they move away from.
02:48But to me, it's to put in there that line about who knows, maybe Lamb struggling with health, they'll get
02:54annoyed with that and maybe they won't pick him.
02:56And it's like, well, this article feels like offseason quota filler in a lot of ways.
03:00It's generally national insiders don't just speculate and throw things out like that because you could upset somebody in that
03:08organization and they could go, what the hell are you doing?
03:10You're causing problems for us.
03:11Now people are asking, now we're hearing from CD about, so what are you doing with this?
03:15And they'll get frustrated whenever that sort of thing is just speculated on by somebody who's supposed to be reporting
03:20rumors or insight.
03:22So that makes me, that makes me think he's at least heard, not that CD could be gone, but he's
03:27at least heard, you know, it's a little irritating he's gotten hurt the last couple of years.
03:31You know, it kind of, it makes him sound like he's Mike Trout.
03:33He is not.
03:35He's hurt all the time.
03:36He dealt with the shoulder thing, the AC sprain for the last half of.
03:42He fell right on it.
03:43No, I know.
03:43I'm just saying what his injuries have been.
03:45He had the AC joint sprain at the halfway mark, same game where Dak tore his hamstring in 24.
03:51And then he played through it and was banged up.
03:54He had surgery, got shut down the last couple of games of that season, fixed it.
03:59Then there was the, yeah, rolled up on his ankle thing.
04:02And that was just, I mean, somebody fell on his ankle and then he was back out there in a
04:06few weeks and he was, he seemed fine.
04:07So I don't, I don't think of him as being an injury prone player at all.
04:11But no, I guess if they're saying, yeah, it was five games in two years.
04:15I guess if they're saying if it happens a third year in a row, well, then we're just questioning like,
04:19is his, is it his frame?
04:20Is he just a slightly built guy?
04:22Is there something wrong there?
04:23That's what I guess they would be looking at.
04:24Well, let me ask you this.
04:25So he's missed five games in two years.
04:27If you put that in, in baseball terms, that's a player who's missed 25 games in each of the last
04:33two seasons.
04:34Do you consider a player who's missed 25 games each year, do you consider that guy injury prone?
04:45I mean, it's so difficult because it's the sports, but I would say, I would say no.
04:52I would say, I would say no.
04:54I assume the average baseball player is going to get 10 days off anyway.
04:56I had to make sure Seager wasn't playing.
04:58That's exactly what I was thinking.
04:59I had to make sure before I answered, I wasn't going to be a hypocrite because I'm going to call
05:03out Corey for missing all the games.
05:05But no, no worry about that.
05:06Seager misses like 40.
05:08So that'd be 137 games a year played.
05:11Yeah.
05:12I mean, that's a little light.
05:13It's a little light, but not much.
05:14Seager's high the last four years is 123.
05:17So he is Seager.
05:18And Seager is like.
05:20It's a full two weeks.
05:21Seager is like just below the line of generally what I think of, of like banged up guy.
05:25Yeah, I just like my assumption is you're going to have like one DL stint and miss 10 games.
05:31You know, obviously, if you have a great health year, you're going to play 160 of them.
05:34But I mean, you're going to get eight days off anyway.
05:36I think of CD as being in general, ridiculously tough.
05:40Like, I mean, you're talking about a guy who like he gets the AC joint spring.
05:43He needed surgery for that.
05:45He would not come off the field against Atlanta, even though every time him getting up looked like he was
05:49being resurrected.
05:50And he played like six more games with that issue with his shoulder.
05:53But yes, every non quarterback they're over under on games is going to be one and a half missed every
06:00non quarterback.
06:01This is the reality of it in the spirit of the segment.
06:05This is an overreaction by Dan Graziano suggesting even walking around the topic of CD being injury prone or that
06:15something could happen with him.
06:17They're not sitting here basically stiff arming George Pickens and saying one more year.
06:23They're not saying it, but they very well could be saying one more year and you're out of here.
06:28And then like there's there's zero indication that they would choose George Pickens over CD lamb at this point in
06:35time.
06:35So I will overreaction Dan Graziano's cowboy note overreaction from Dan Graziano is what it certainly is that.
06:43I just hope it wouldn't be overreaction by the Cowboys and that he's just repeating what somebody told him.
06:48And yeah, and where it's well, the reason why we want to buy the extra year and we don't want
06:52to commit to Pickens yet is because we're we got to see CD's health and then make the determination of
06:56which one's staying.
06:57You feel the same?
06:57Feel the same.
06:58Feel the same.
06:59It's a little bit of an overreaction.
07:00Let's get to DFW.
07:02The rest of the Metroplex overreaction.
07:03All right, so let's stick with the Cowboys here.
07:06What do you want to talk about with AZ?
07:08I want to talk about a lot, but go ahead.
07:11No, not into a microphone.
07:12Oh, all right.
07:17Overreaction or not, the Cowboys strength of schedule this year is too tough to have high expectations on their regular
07:27season.
07:27So, Bobby, we went through the opponents on Monday while you were out, and I do have to admit, and
07:35Atolo said the same thing.
07:37This brought me back down to earth a little bit.
07:39It did.
07:40I threw it out there when Warren Sharpe said it's very difficult.
07:44I'm basically trying to say four or five most difficult schedules, yada, yada, yada.
07:48Man, going through this, Bobby, with the opponent.
07:51And things change every year, but I still don't look at it as totally meaningless.
07:55Like, yes, we get the surprises, part of greatness of football.
07:59This did bring my excitement and hype down a level.
08:03Yeah, because, I mean, it's a...
08:05What's your point?
08:05They've got a tough schedule, and it's...
08:07Screw it, Jerry.
08:08That's my point.
08:08It's tougher depending on some of the factors.
08:13Not just, like, if things change every year.
08:15But, like, there's an expectation that Baltimore's not going to be what Baltimore was last year.
08:19That they're probably going to be closer to what they...
08:21Like, people generally seem to have this expectation that Baltimore's going to be back to what they were.
08:25Really good.
08:25So, yeah.
08:26And so, if that's the case, then that's a really difficult game.
08:30But, again, we're projecting a little bit there of, like, we think they're going to click back into place based
08:34on what we saw last year.
08:37There's, you know, you look at Indianapolis, for instance.
08:39That was a team that started hot and then finished really poorly.
08:42You would assume Indianapolis isn't going to be a tough game.
08:44But if they start surprising or something clicks into place that they had from the first half of last year,
08:48same sort of difficulty.
08:50Is Houston able to carry over what they did defensively last year?
08:52Since defensive year-to-year can be sort of unpredictable.
08:56If they're able to carry that over, that's a super intimidating game.
08:58If they're not, and it's kind of like a middle-of-the-road defense, and you're going against C.J.
09:02Stroud, you're like,
09:03all right, maybe that's an easier game.
09:04So a lot of different factors on there, obviously, in terms of how bad those play out.
09:08But that's about as bad a road lineup as you could have specifically.
09:12I'll say it's not an overreaction that the expectations should be lowered because of the schedule.
09:18Now I'm kind of thinking in my mind, just like, okay, 10 wins max.
09:22Max, best case, 10 wins.
09:24That's what's in my head right now.
09:25I mean, there's a chance that outside the NFC East, so that would be...
09:30You have a schedule.
09:30Just read the opponents real quick for those who missed it.
09:33I got it in front of me.
09:34The home games are Giants, Commanders, Cardinals, 49ers, Jaguars, Titans, Buccaneers, Ravens, Eagles.
09:42Ravens is home game.
09:43It's Rio.
09:44The road games are Texans, Colts, Rams, Eagles, Seahawks, Commanders, Packers, Giants.
09:50So Titans and Cardinals, who, as you pointed out, Arizona always beats you.
09:56Always does.
09:56They look like the gimme home opponents outside of the East.
10:00And outside of the East, I mean, you could make a case that maybe Indy, they beat Indy.
10:06Yeah.
10:07But you could make a case that the other four road games, like Green Bay and what you said, Seattle,
10:12the Rams.
10:13You could make a case that you go like one and four in your non-NFC East road games.
10:18Look, I heard Fred make this point the other night on the night show.
10:21They were talking about the fact that, yeah, this is a difficult schedule for Dallas.
10:27They're playing the same division.
10:28So they've got a couple extra games that they've got that others don't.
10:31But I like the Eagles are playing the NFC West as well.
10:34And so Fred was saying, you said 10 would be the max.
10:37Fred was saying, like, I think this could be a year where you see 10 wins, maybe wins the East.
10:40Yeah.
10:40Just because it's such a difficult run.
10:42Absolutely.
10:42And they have to face the same divisions.
10:45Yeah.
10:46The only difference is that the Eagles have to face the first place team.
10:51I mean, the Cowboys don't.
10:52All right.
10:53Next.
10:53All right.
10:54Next one.
10:54This is not a slump for Corey Seager.
10:58This is something more.
11:02I want to see one of you guys go out on the ledge on this first.
11:05The easy answer, right?
11:06And Skip said it to Nade Dow yesterday in the pre.
11:09The easy answer is he's Corey Seager.
11:11We know what he is.
11:12And he's going to end up carrying us.
11:14What's your answer to it, child?
11:15Let's put you on the spot.
11:17His swing and miss rate's really troublingly high.
11:21Like, yesterday it felt like such a fortunate.
11:23It was a fortunate break.
11:25That fielder's choice, like, that ended up scoring a run.
11:28Right.
11:29But last night, to me, it's the opposite of the A's announcer.
11:34That was their night.
11:35It was their night.
11:36His barrel percentage is still good enough.
11:39It's not your night.
11:40Right.
11:41He still barrels enough baseballs to make me think, okay,
11:44he eventually will come around.
11:47He'll get a little bit more fortunate.
11:50But he is swinging and missing at such an alarming rate.
11:54It's almost too much to actually qualify.
11:59And he took one last.
12:02I'd also like to know if he's seeing more pitches per at bat.
12:07Because we know prime Corey Seager, you ain't getting to a third pitch.
12:13No, right.
12:13And I think he took a called strike three last night.
12:16I can't remember if he took it or he swung.
12:19But if he took it, it just jumped out as, like, unusual.
12:22Like, Corey Seager, he don't take pitches, let alone, you know,
12:25called strike threes.
12:27I think there's something more.
12:28I don't know if it's an injury that he's not talking about.
12:32I don't know if he's just trying to figure out how to manage his swing
12:36as he gets up there in age.
12:38We need to do the average drop-off in bat speed like Bobby did the defensive ends
12:43when we were talking about free agency.
12:45We need to see, like, what is the year where you get the most miles per hour
12:50or whatever the metric is on the bat speed.
12:53Like, is it 31 to 32?
12:54Is it 30 to 31?
12:55Is it 33 to 34?
12:5634 to 35?
12:58Something like that.
12:58Like, his bat speed right now is 71.9.
13:02All right?
13:02If you go through, and they didn't start doing bat speed until, like, you know,
13:08right around 2020-ish where baseball savant starts to have it.
13:12But, you know, I'm just going through, and it kind of runs through it here.
13:16And once you get to – let's pull it up.
13:20Let's do another – let's do another story.
13:22We've got too many topics to get to.
13:23The batting average on balls in play for Seager would say that he's going to average out
13:28because he's hitting so ridiculously below.
13:31The average in Major League Baseball is hit 300 on balls in play.
13:34He's hitting 216 this year.
13:36So, I mean, some of it, too, is peripherally some bad luck.
13:40I will say that it's an overreaction to freak out over a long period of time
13:48that this is a longstanding problem with him and that he will get out of it soon.
13:52But I don't feel great about saying it.
13:54He'll finish 250 or above as a hitter.
13:57His exit velocity is normal.
14:00His launch angle is normal.
14:03Like, everything is kind of – the amount of balls, percentage of balls that he hits
14:06on the sweet spot is normal, bat speed's normal.
14:10So, it's a slump.
14:13I am a little bit worried, but it's still a slump.
14:16Last time we were worried it was Nate, and he shut us up against the Yankees.
14:19All right.
14:20Then he got hurt.
14:21DFW Sports overreaction or not, the Mavs should focus on a position
14:28and not BPA with their first pick in the draft.
14:32Overreaction.
14:33I don't care what position it is.
14:35The Mavs should win championships.
14:37Now, that is with – the one caveat to this would be point guard.
14:42Right.
14:42Where I'm like, all right, you're going to go and get a point guard,
14:45which a lot of people are projecting.
14:49And that leads me to say, try to get a first-round pick for Kyrie.
14:53But that would be my one issue.
14:55But Kyrie is older, and I'm not expecting him to play an awful lot anyway moving forward.
15:00So, I'll say overreaction, get the best player.
15:03I've never seen a team as bad as the Mavericks were be able to afford to say,
15:09let's force this pick.
15:11Yeah.
15:11Let's do – no, hell no.
15:13Just take whatever the best players – because, I mean, there's five spots on the floor.
15:18Even if you take somebody that's like, well, that's kind of similar to Cooper.
15:21It's like, all right, great.
15:22Find him.
15:22Have him do something else then.
15:23Because, like, you can finagle it to have him do something else.
15:26So, no, that's an overreaction to lock in on a position.
15:30Yeah, I agree.
15:31There's enough holes here where you can make that work.
15:33Now, how about this one?
15:34You guys have any issues with a draft point guard with Kyrie staying?
15:38None.
15:38None.
15:39How about this one?
15:41The Mavs – let's say Acuff is there at seven.
15:45The Mavs should package 30 and nine together to move up.
15:51To get Acuff or somebody else?
15:55No.
15:55Or just stay at nine and take –
15:57How do you stack up RJ, Acuff, Burries, Brown, and the other kid you like, I think, above all of
16:07them, except for Acuff?
16:09Phylon.
16:09Baron Phylon.
16:10Phylon.
16:10I think Acuff's the best.
16:13Okay.
16:15I actually like Phylon better than Brown and Burries, but I think he's a 50-40-90 guy that he
16:25can do.
16:26So, I would put Acuff first.
16:27Okay.
16:29Brown, I really like.
16:30I really like Mikkel Brown, but I think Acuff is the guy that I would – if I could find
16:36a way to get him, that's the one.
16:38Look, I'm not going to freak out, so I'll say not an overreaction.
16:41If they love Acuff that much and they feel like there's a separation, because, again, 30 in the NBA draft.
16:47Now –
16:47But, yeah, we brought – you bring in Masai Ujiri to find those guys at 30 that he has throughout
16:52his career.
16:52He's found Siakam.
16:53He's found OG and Anubi.
16:55Yeah.
16:56And I'd like to know, you'd think, if nine this year is much better than nine in other years, that
17:01that should apply to 30 as well.
17:04Should apply to 30.
17:04Should apply to the end.
17:05But we don't think of the end or second rounders of the NBA draft in the same galaxy as the
17:11NFL draft.
17:12No.
17:13God, no.
17:13Second rounders in the NBA draft are like –
17:15We don't care.
17:16Fifth rounders.
17:16There was a post going around the internet yesterday that was about, like, historically number nine picks.
17:23And, like, well, maybe the Mavericks lucked out, because historically number eight picks in the NBA draft, there's not really
17:30a good one that's ever existed.
17:31And then it's like, number nine, you've got Dirk, you've got Blackman, you've got all these different guys that have
17:35slid to number nine.
17:36And so they're saying, maybe you got out of the cursed position there at number eight.
17:39Metroplex overreactions or not before chopping it up.
17:42The stars have missed their window.
17:48Overreaction.
17:49They're young enough.
17:51They are young enough.
17:52That, to me, is what it comes down to.
17:54Like, a window, to me, is about age.
17:58And you can throw in contracts, right?
18:00The robo-contract.
18:02He's going to get paid a lot of money.
18:04He's restricted, so they can match it.
18:07But they can also move him still if they wanted to.
18:09My group chat's trying to get – they're trying to move him left and right.
18:13They're like, let's offer up Otter and robo for Conor McDavid.
18:17They're throwing Thomas Harley, too.
18:19And I'm like, guys, Conor McDavid's in the same boat here, then, if you purge everybody.
18:23You want to reverse the Stanky trade?
18:26The Stanky trade is the other one.
18:27It's like, you know, you traded him for Miko.
18:31And now, obviously, it was the right move because this was a win-now team.
18:37And Stanky was, like, 21 years old.
18:39Yeah.
18:40But now, here's Stanky with eight points in eight games in the playoffs.
18:44His team is 8-0.
18:45He is heading to the East Finals.
18:47They are going to be the odds-on favorite to reach the Cup.
18:51And he's, you know, the best player.
18:54One of the best players over for Carolina.
18:56And it's like, okay, now that he comes into his own at 24 and Miko's pushing 30, do you feel
19:01differently about the trade?
19:03Harley's 24.
19:04I ain't giving up Thomas Harley.
19:06Hell no.
19:06Miro's 26.
19:07I'm just talking about the ages of what you have moving forward.
19:12Ottinger's 27.
19:13Miko, yeah, 29.
19:15Pushing 30.
19:16Robo is 26.
19:17Hintz is 29.
19:19And, you know, did I say Wyatt already?
19:21Wyatt.
19:22You did not.
19:22And Wyatt is 22.
19:23So, no, they did not miss their window.
19:24They absolutely did not.
19:25They haven't missed their window to compete.
19:27But the question is just, like, are they good enough for the window?
19:29Yeah, are you Buffalo?
19:31Like, Buffalo now.
19:32Like, are you this team that, like, yeah, you're good enough to be right there, but you're not going to
19:35be better than the top dog.
19:36And you're not going to be able to surpass them.
19:38There's no reason.
19:40And the only reason I can think of is the Stars are built around a lot of speed.
19:44But there's no reason for all this talent on this team to have gotten kind of pushed around in the
19:51five-on-five like they did against Minnesota.
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