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The Sports Junkies debate how bad traffic will be at the new RFK stadium.
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00:00Metro is out with a study on what will be needed for the new Commander Stadium project.
00:06And it pointed to some big changes while also taking some early ideas off the table.
00:11This is according to WTOP.
00:12How people get in and out of the stadium is becoming one of the biggest hurdles.
00:17Metro is planning for a major shift with more than half of the 65,000 fans expected to take Metro
00:23trains or buses to the games.
00:25But here's what Metro said.
00:28He said the current system can't handle it.
00:30Can't handle it.
00:31Well, they're going to need to make upgrades, obviously, to the existing station there.
00:36Stadium Armour.
00:36I know that there have been discussions about building a new station, but I think that's been scrapped.
00:40They said it would cost a billion dollars to build a new one.
00:43Right.
00:44Apparently, the tracks are curved there, so it would be tougher to build a station there.
00:48Don't know anything about that.
00:50Yeah, that's what they said.
00:50The forecast that it says half or more are expected to take public transport to the game, I find that
00:58number to be...
00:59I think that's aggressively high.
01:01Well, with the lack of parking, people are going to be forced into it.
01:04I mean, you could drive and park six blocks away, I guess.
01:09I just feel like half or more are going to be public transit.
01:13That seems like a high number.
01:14Nobody wants to.
01:16It's just there's no place to park.
01:17What may be shocking to you is how many people take the Metro already to games, and that's in Landover.
01:24Right.
01:24And it's not even close.
01:25You've got to walk like 25 minutes.
01:27Put it this way.
01:28It's a long walk.
01:29I read the deal, and I see they're expecting two hours plus or whatever to get home.
01:35That'll rule it out for me.
01:37I'll go one time to see it, but if it's legit a two-hour wait to go home, I'm out.
01:47I'm just not going to go.
01:49That's where season ticket holders, they're just either going to find a spot that's there on the campus near the
01:55stadium to hang out post-game.
01:57Right.
01:58They're just going to have to block off their whole day.
02:01That's going to be their thing.
02:02They have some plans, so right now the Stadium Armory Metro Station can move about 14,000 people an hour.
02:10So they believe that it would take a little bit more than two hours to clear the crowds after an
02:17event.
02:17Can you imagine waiting for a train for two hours?
02:20No.
02:21Get out of here.
02:22Not happening.
02:23They're going to use...
02:24Not for me.
02:25And I don't fully understand that they're going to meter customers into the station after games and add more staff
02:30to keep people moving to prevent bottlenecks.
02:32Yeah, I don't know what all that means.
02:34Is that kind of like front-of-the-line passes if you go to Disney?
02:38Maybe.
02:39They're going to kind of tell you when to go?
02:40I don't know.
02:41I wouldn't mind that.
02:42That would make it better.
02:43I would rather be able to go to a bar or restaurant and have a meal or something and know,
02:48okay, my turn is to go is at 616.
02:51You know what I mean?
02:52Versus waiting on the tracks or being packed in like sardines.
02:57You've run the Marine Corps Marathon.
02:59Both of you guys have, I think.
03:01It's a nightmare in D.C., the Marine Corps Marathon.
03:03And we had to use public transportation because there was no parking at that time for us.
03:08And almost got trampled.
03:11Ended up getting on a bus.
03:13And it felt like it was in India.
03:14I was lucky to survive.
03:16Yeah.
03:16Lucky to survive.
03:17They're projecting.
03:18That's what it's going to be like going to Skins game.
03:19There's only going to be about 8,000 parking spaces.
03:22Right.
03:22All right.
03:23So where are all those people going to go?
03:25Where and how are they going to get there?
03:27They can't just park in front of someone's house.
03:29Right.
03:31There's not going to be enough spots.
03:32I don't know where they're going to be.
03:32There's going to be 40,000 fans taking public transit.
03:35Think about that.
03:3740,000.
03:38That's a no for me, dog.
03:40That's a no for me, dog.
03:41I mean, when you build a stadium right in the middle of the city, that's what you've got to do.
03:45It tells me those bars and restaurants, they're going to make an absolute killing.
03:49Sure.
03:50The days of the game, especially because you're going to have this huge captive audience that can't go anywhere.
03:57Yeah, but that sucks.
03:58I mean, let's be honest.
03:58Most people, we go to your pregame.
04:01It's not great.
04:02You go to the game.
04:03And then when it's over, you want to go home.
04:06At least I do.
04:07I think the vast majority of people do want to go home.
04:10I want to go home.
04:10But you do see people, even at Northwest Stadium, they're still tailgating in the lots after the game is over.
04:17I know.
04:17Because they'd rather be there than be stuck in traffic trying to get to the Beltway for an hour.
04:22I don't know what's down there.
04:23So maybe there are certain spots in those neighborhoods where just residents can charge 50 bucks a car just to
04:30park.
04:30I'm sure they're going to do that.
04:31I don't know what's down there.
04:33There's limited space.
04:34But that's what...
04:35To be determined.
04:35That's going to happen.
04:36Yeah.
04:36In fact, I would do that instead of taking the public transit.
04:41I'm not doing that.
04:42You pay somebody that lives there 75 bucks to park, and then you just get out whenever you want.
04:46Let me tell you something.
04:47It's borderline terrifying when you have 5,000, 10,000 people, whatever the number is, trying to get into a
04:53metro station.
04:55Because I've done it.
04:56It's borderline terrifying.
04:57Yeah.
04:57I haven't done it, and I won't do it.
05:00Yeah.
05:01I do it all the time.
05:02No, but it's fine to ride metro.
05:04I'm talking about when you have 10,000 people squeezing into one station.
05:09I did it here for the Marine Corps Marathon.
05:12You know, I thought you could lose somebody.
05:15It may not be that much, but when you leave a Wizards game or Caps game or a concert and
05:21you take the metro, there's a lot of people pouring in.
05:23Oh, there's tons.
05:24Yeah.
05:25I'm out on that.
05:25I haven't done it in a while, but I have memories of it.
05:28I've done it in the back.
05:29I might have a legit fear of that, being trampled.
05:321-800-636-1067.
05:35Does this worry you as a Commanders fan?
05:37Everybody's fired up about the new stadium, but lack of parking and what they're projecting in terms of using the
05:46metro, does it kind of freak you out?
05:48I'm going to guess most aren't worried about it yet because the stadium won't be ready until 2030.
05:53I'm going to guess most people, even season ticket holders, aren't sweating it.
05:57They're not thinking about it yet.
05:58They're not sweating it yet.
05:59Don't deal with it when it's closer.
06:02Week one of the 2030 season.
06:04That's when they'll worry about it.
06:04If there was enough of a backlash for, and I could probably use a better word, but let's just use
06:10the word backlash.
06:11If there was enough of a backlash, maybe there would be momentum to build the other metro station, which would
06:17cost a billion dollars.
06:19Who's going to pay for that?
06:21Who's going to pay a billion dollars to build a new metro station?
06:24They tax.
06:24That's what they do.
06:27So I'm going to pay to build a new metro station that I'm never going to use?
06:30The unhappy D.C. residents.
06:32If you live in D.C., you would.
06:34Yeah.
06:34You're not going to pay it in Maryland.
06:36Well, they're also going to try to tax people from Virginia and Maryland because they're coming in and using the
06:40system.
06:40Well, I don't have sales taxes, sure.
06:42They're not going to tax people to build a metro.
06:45Well, they're not taxing me to build a metro in D.C.
06:48I mean, you may think you're not getting taxed.
06:50It's probably hitting your pocket.
06:51No, I know I'm getting taxed.
06:52It's hitting your pocket somehow.
06:53Believe me, Spanberger's taxing me for everything.
06:55But I don't think that would be one of them.
06:58Here's the thing, though.
06:59Well, you know, they extended the metro on 66 for years and years and years.
07:05Got it all the way out close to you, right?
07:08The metro?
07:09It is.
07:09It's in Ashburn, yeah.
07:13It goes all the way to Ashburn.
07:14It took far longer than they projected and cost way more than they projected.
07:19That's just the way it works.
07:19But they're estimating that a new station would cost a billion?
07:23And it wouldn't be ready.
07:24It probably would cost two billion.
07:24And it wouldn't be ready by 2030 when the stadium's going to be ready.
07:27No, not unless you start building it today.
07:30And then it might not even be ready.
07:32Who knows?
07:32I don't know.
07:33They say that's for how long have they been building the metro through the University of Maryland.
07:37Several years.
07:38Well, they've been building one in my neighborhood for seven, eight years, it seems like.
07:44There's always delays.
07:45It started about 2020.
07:46It took forever for the...
07:46What is it, the purple line?
07:47For the Ashburn stop.
07:49To be completed.
07:50It took forever.
07:51Because there's always delays.
07:52I feel like the Tysons one went up fairly quickly, relatively, but maybe I'm wrong.
07:57This one in Kensington is taking forever.
08:00From Reston to Ashburn, it took forever.
08:021-800-636-1067.
08:05I think most people are super excited about the new stadium.
08:10Most people are happy it's coming back to D.C.
08:12They're not going to miss FedEx in Landover.
08:15No.
08:16Won't be missed.
08:16But they're probably going to have to take their medicine.
08:19Going to games and leaving games.
08:22Yeah, but guys that are like us, that are just going to go to pop-in every once in a
08:25while,
08:26it'll reduce the pop-ins.
08:28Maybe.
08:29Yeah, it'll keep them to a bare minimum.
08:31I will not.
08:33This is my pledge to you.
08:35I will not stand in a two-hour Metro line.
08:39It's not going to happen in my lifetime.
08:41I pledge to you.
08:42You need parking.
08:43Yeah, you need a parking book.
08:44You need to get a little VIP parking book.
08:46It's not going to happen.
08:47Yeah.
08:47You know, you got to be...
08:48Or take an Uber to, you know, six blocks away and walk.
08:51You got to have an enthusiasm for humanity that I do not have.
08:54When you go to a stadium, though, a lot of times you're going to have delays and backups.
09:00That's one of the things.
09:01The advantages, when Cakes and I used to do the post-game show from FedEx,
09:06there were a lot of people that hung around for an hour, hour and a half just for traffic to
09:11clear out.
09:11Those are people that drove to the game, and they're just waiting for traffic to clear out.
09:16That's different than being borderline trampled in a Metro situation, which I've experienced.
09:25It's terrifying.
09:27It sounds like a disaster.
09:29It does.
09:29It doesn't sound optimal.
09:30I know that.
09:31I can tell you one thing.
09:32I pledged to you.
09:33Yeah.
09:34I will never go to a game at the new RFK.
09:36Oh, I'm not pledging that.
09:37I don't know.
09:37Unless you pay me to go.
09:39I'll drive.
09:40Look.
09:40I'll drive.
09:41No, I'm not doing that.
09:42But didn't you say that about FedEx and you went to FedEx a couple years ago?
09:47I did say that.
09:48Yeah.
09:49But I had VIP parking.
09:50You have a history of making pledges and then going against your pledge.
09:54I pledge to you I'm not going to the new RFK.
09:55You shouldn't make that pledge.
09:56Why?
09:57Because you might want to see it.
09:58You're not going to have an asterisk?
09:59I want to see it.
10:00Why do I want to see it?
10:00You're not going to have an asterisk?
10:01I think it's going to be nice.
10:01What if you get parking right up front?
10:04What if you get amazing parking?
10:05You wouldn't go?
10:06Probably not.
10:07Didn't you pledge you weren't going to go back to the Atlantis and you did?
10:10Yes.
10:11Again, I'll say it again.
10:12I pledged to you I won't be going to the new RFK.
10:14You pledged you were going to have a party at the house.
10:15We hit number one ratings.
10:16You didn't.
10:18You've got a lot of pledges.
10:20Well, I'm making another one.
10:22Let's go to Dante.
10:23Forward on the pile.
10:24In D.C.
10:24Dante, what's up?
10:28Dante.
10:28Are you there?
10:30What's up?
10:30Hey, buddy.
10:31How's your inferno?
10:31I was told to come off the speaker.
10:35So I communicate this information with friends that I work with all the time.
10:40Most of us are native Washingtonians.
10:42I just don't see how they're going to make this work.
10:44First of all, the truth is, it's kind of foolish to want to put a stadium in the middle of
10:52the city, especially when the armory is right there.
10:57Thinking about where it is, how it sits in the train tracks.
11:02I'm not talking metro, but we're talking the train tracks for logistic movement of product that comes through, through the
11:08railroad.
11:09That still flies through there.
11:11Where they're going to get the parking, where they're going to be able to actually service these things correctly.
11:16It just doesn't make any sense to me.
11:18Our infrastructure is too, too small in that area to have a stadium redone there and think that it's going
11:25to be a successful long term.
11:27I catch the metro just about every day.
11:31We have the metro that is completely filled now.
11:35What is going to happen when you're trying to move cars and people through that area, going back and forth
11:42to work on a regular basis, not during game time?
11:46The traffic is already horrendous coming through there in 295.
11:50If you just drive up East Capitol Street and see it, you'll see there's just not enough space to redo
11:56that thing the way that they're talking about doing it.
11:58Not unless you plan on taking the parking, I don't know, four flights below ground.
12:02But I just can't see that happening.
12:04Not for the money they've said.
12:06I'm done.
12:07Thank you, Dante.
12:08They are going to have high-rise parking garages.
12:11Those would be a nightmare to get out of.
12:13Can you imagine being on the top?
12:14I'm sure this is unrealistic and maybe unpopular.
12:16You have to leave after the third quarter.
12:18Can't they just take a wrecking ball to the D.C. Armory?
12:21I mean, let's be honest.
12:22That building's been there forever.
12:26You can park a lot of cars with a D.C. Armory.
12:28It currently stands.
12:29What's happening at the D.C. Armory?
12:32I think it's where the D.C. National Guard does their training.
12:35Okay.
12:36Can't they train somewhere else?
12:37There's got to be another spot, somewhere in D.C., where the D.C. National Guard can do their training.
12:42How about you take 10 wrecking balls to the Armory and you put up some big-ass parking garages?
12:48But they have events there.
12:48I was a ring announcer for an MMA event there once.
12:52They have Nubs events there.
12:53That's fine.
12:53There's like 2,000 people.
12:55Those events can be moved to a different venue.
12:59Let's knock down the Armory, and then that solves a lot of the problems.
13:04Send that memo to Josh Harris and company.
13:06How many parking spaces are you creating by knocking down the Armory?
13:09You think I know that off the top of my head?
13:11It might not.
13:11Juice might have you worth the squeeze.
13:13Yeah.
13:14I'm sure they've thought about it.
13:17Probably.
13:17It's a pretty big footprint.
13:18It's a big building.
13:20I mean, it can hold 10,000 people.
13:23It can't hold 10,000 cars.
13:24You know what?
13:25Build a freaking parking garage 30 stories high.
13:29Who cares?
13:29You can't because of the planes.
13:31Planes.
13:33You're worried about the planes.
13:34You put four blinking red lights on the top of your 30-story parking structure, and you're good to go.
13:39Let's go to Campbell.
13:41It's D.C.
13:42Schmoning.
13:43Campbell, what's up?
13:44You're all with the jokes.
13:45Good morning, boys.
13:46So, I hear you have the bitterness early in the morning.
13:50Yeah.
13:50So, I'm looking for you.
13:51The four of you live in Maryland and Virginia, and we don't complain when we have to drive a wolf
13:56trap and whatever.
13:59Oh, you can play my time again, Larry.
14:01You don't listen to Shelton off the deal.
14:03I listen to you guys plenty of time.
14:05I listen to you.
14:06Terrestrial radio in the house.
14:07I appreciate it.
14:07That's how much I listen to you guys.
14:09So, my thing is, I live four blocks from the area, from Armory State.
14:13I grew up around there.
14:14There's never going to be enough parking for anybody because the city wants you to commute by bus, train, Uber.
14:22So, we can say, let's put a commuter tax for all you people in Maryland and Virginia, and we can
14:28build all the parking structures you want.
14:30But I know you don't want to pay that commuter tax to come in D.C. for the 40, the
14:35four hours.
14:36So, unfortunately, there is space for parking garages.
14:39But you're going to have to pay $70, $80, because I'm a national plan holder, and an opening day is
14:46a disaster paying $100 to park.
14:49So, if you command your fans, if you want to come in the city and enjoy the product, there's a
14:55fee that's going to charge you.
14:56You can either pay for Metro or pay for high-dollar parking.
15:00So, Lurch, E.B., high-dollar parking, baby.
15:05Let's go.
15:06It's the 30th anniversary of the Junkies.
15:09You're not hurting for funds, so it'll be fine.
15:13I'll pay for parking.
15:14That's different.
15:15I'm not going to stand next to 10,000 other people waiting for a train.
15:20How far away do you live from a new R.K.?
15:22I said four blocks.
15:22Four blocks?
15:24Yes, four blocks.
15:25What's it look like now with the construction?
15:28I mean, the construction, you can see the tore-down remnants of it.
15:32Right around where you talk about the armory there, but there's this whole section of open land underneath the metro
15:40station where they have a farmer's market.
15:43There's parking there, so I know that farmer's market.
15:45Farmer's market?
15:46You can pull that thing right out of there.
15:48Are you kidding me?
15:49Somebody's saving up space with fresh-baked bread?
15:52Get out of here.
15:53You need parking spots.
15:55Again, I guess that's coming.
15:57Would it be worthwhile?
16:00I mean, could you see a future where you sell parking at your place?
16:04Oh, so I live in an apartment, and I park in the alley behind my place, so I don't have
16:09to worry about that type of traffic.
16:12Gotcha.
16:12Gotcha.
16:13Okay.
16:13Thank you, buddy.
16:14Appreciate you.
16:15Thank you, Kim.
16:151-800-636-1067, if you want to chime in, talking about this study that Metro released that it's going
16:24to take another metro station, which they're not willing to build, to move 40,000 people after Commander's game.
16:33Is it a nightmare that's going to keep you away?
16:351-800-636-1067.
16:38We'll get into that more, and we've got a Dewey Beach update.
16:41Don't go anywhere.
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