Un tempo erano chiamati semplicemente "mostri", oggi li definiremmo serial killer. Sono loro i protagonisti di questo appuntamento con "Dei delitti". Gli assassini seriali, o gli autori di omicidi particolarmente efferati, hanno sempre avuto un'enorme eco sui mezzi d'informazione; non solo per l'allarme sociale che spesso hanno suscitato, ma anche per il fascino che una mente criminale esercita su tutti noi. In epoche diverse si riscontrano tratti simili di devianze e malattia mentale ma molto diverse sono le risposte che a questi crimini dà la società. Se con Cesare Lombroso nasce l'antropologia Criminale, e l'attenzione si focalizza sulla mente dell'assassino, è necessario chiedersi in che modo l'ambiente abbia inciso sia sui crimini che sulle ripercussioni che questi hanno avuto nella società italiana. Gli interventi dello storico Silvano Montaldo, direttore del Museo di Antropologia Criminale Cesare Lombroso, della scrittrice Barbara Bracco e dello psichiatra Corrado De Rosa raccontano l'Italia del '900 attraverso le gesta dei suoi più famosi serial killer, dal Vincenzo Verzeni, "il vampiro della Brianza", a Leonarda Cianciulli, la "saponificatrice di Correggio", fino a Donato Bilancia, il killer dei treni.
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00:03People kill for a sick passion, they kill for ideology, for hatred, they kill for money,
00:10Out of frustration, they kill themselves because they are sick or in the grip of madness.
00:14The gun that has been used all these years is always the same: a long-barreled Beretta.
00:20There may be many motives for murders, but there are cases where it is really difficult to
00:26understand the behavior of killers.
00:28The girl's body bears dozens and dozens of wounds from a sharp blade.
00:34They were called monsters, today we call them serial killers and we meet many of them going back over
00:42the criminal history of our country.
00:45He grabbed a knife and stabbed her several times, killing her.
00:49But by following the thin line that divides madness from normality, good from evil, one can
00:56go back to the origins of our culture, to Greek mythology.
01:02A ferocity and a cruelty that appear inhuman, that of serial monsters, of serial killers,
01:09and which also tell us about the complexity of the human soul, sometimes incapable of containing
01:14his aggressive impulses.
01:16Professor Cantarella, what does myth, Greek mythology, tell us about these drives?
01:22Of course, in Greek mythology everything exists, this also exists.
01:26The person who comes to mind, it may seem very strange, is a hero.
01:31The Greek heroes are all questionable characters, I mean today they wouldn't be heroes,
01:37but times change.
01:38But Heracles is very interesting, because Heracles is a hero, he is so much a hero that even
01:44There is debate as to whether he is a hero or a god.
01:47It is said that he did the famous twelve labors precisely because with this he would perhaps have
01:52conquered eternity.
01:54So he's a hero, he's the hero of heroes.
01:58During a period in which he is away from his homeland, he leaves his wife at home in Thebes,
02:08three children and also the father.
02:11Taking advantage of this, a rival wants to become king of Thebes.
02:16At this point, fortunately, Hercules returns and something strange happens.
02:25he is completely blinded and loses control, believing he is defending and saving his family,
02:36he exterminates all his loved ones.
03:22Thanks to all his loved ones.
03:43Thanks to all his loved ones.
04:06Today these corridors are dilapidated and abandoned,
04:11the rooms full of piled up furniture and garbage.
04:15It's a creepy, lonely place.
04:21But perhaps between the end of the nineteenth century, the early seventies and the twentieth century,
04:25this was an even scarier place.
04:28For almost a century it was the mental asylum of Milan,
04:31where mentally ill people of all kinds, including criminals, were interned.
04:56There are no certainties, but perhaps Vincenzo Verzeni was also locked up in these very rooms,
05:02gone down in history as the vampire of Bergamo.
05:13Vincenzo was a tall, robust boy, the son of a violent, alcoholic farmer and an epileptic mother.
05:21After an adolescence of which we know little, one morning, that of December 8, 1870,
05:28Vincenzo turns into a murderer.
05:34He kills Giovanna Moto, a 14-year-old girl.
05:37His horribly mutilated body was found only four days later,
05:42with bite marks on his neck, in a pool of congealed blood.
05:52After two years, another girl will suffer the same fate.
05:55and only further failed attempts will allow the police to arrest him.
06:06Vincenzo Verzeni, the vampire, has become the prototype of the monster, the mad killer.
06:12During the trial he declared
06:14I really killed those women
06:16and I tried to strangle those others
06:19because I felt immense pleasure in that act.
06:23The scratches that were found on the bodies
06:25they were not produced with nails, but with teeth
06:28because after strangling them, I bit them and sucked their earthy blood,
06:33which made me enjoy it a lot.
06:47The vampire of Bergamo did not become famous
06:50only for the brutality of his crimes
06:52but also because at the trial
06:54the expert appointed by the judges
06:56to shed light on Verzeni's soul
06:58it was Cesare Rombroso
07:00the father of criminal anthropology.
07:08Exceptional muscle strength
07:10reduced sensitivity to pain
07:12exaggerated sexual tendencies
07:15total absence of remorse
07:18These are the characteristics of Vincenzo Verzeni
07:21which most strike the shady
07:23these symptoms of an innate atavistic ferocity
07:27for this reason the criminal must be judged
07:29not only for his crimes
07:31but above all for his mental state.
07:35The judges' attention
07:37must focus on the criminal
07:39even before the crime.
07:53Who really was Cesare Rombroso?
07:56The great inventor of criminal psychiatry?
08:00Or as it is often remembered
08:02he who believed from the somatic features
08:05to be able to recognize who was a criminal
08:08and who doesn't?
08:13Professor Montaldo
08:14when we talk about Cesare Rombroso today
08:17it is always done in a critical way
08:19highlighting its shortcomings
08:21the racist drift
08:22or the Lombrosian term
08:24it's one of those terms
08:25that Italian scientists have given to the world
08:27also to understand the weight
08:29who had his thoughts between 8 and 900.
08:31Here, what was decisive
08:34in his theories?
08:36But it is not only in Italy that it is supported
08:39that Lombroso is the father of criminology.
08:43It's something that is also recognized abroad.
08:46In reality already in the early 19th century
08:48there are authors who reflect
08:51on why certain crimes occur.
08:55The first psychiatrists do it
08:57which in fact match certain terms
08:58like pyromania, kleptomania
09:00phrenologists do it
09:02who deal with a first science
09:06of brain localizations
09:07etc.
09:08and they too speak of a carnivorous instinct
09:11of a tendency to steal and so on.
09:21What Lombroso does
09:23compared to all these predecessors
09:26is to think of yourself as a criminologist
09:29that is, he is the father of criminology
09:30because he was the first one who thought of it
09:32that a science may be born from that.
09:36And having devoted enormous energy
09:39and also financial means
09:41in the construction of this new discipline.
09:45So he concentrates
09:47no longer about the crime itself
09:49but on the criminal as a person.
09:51Are you doing research in this direction?
09:53Yes, he always says
09:55that with him
09:55attention shifts
09:57from the crime in the abstract
09:59to the concrete subjectivity of the criminal.
10:13How does he do it?
10:14What method do you use?
10:16Well, and here the pain begins.
10:18in the sense that he is a shadowy person
10:20because he finds on a skull
10:22preserved in the museum of the hospital of Pavia
10:25where he works
10:26a person's skull
10:27that he never knew
10:28coming from the Pavia prison.
10:33This skull actually has
10:35a significant anatomical peculiarity
10:38that is, this famous median ocipital fossa.
10:44And he realizes that
10:45this skull
10:47has this anatomical peculiarity
10:49that would remember
10:50brain structures
10:51of the most ancient monkeys.
10:541859 Darwin published
10:56the origin of species
10:57and so we are in full diffusion
10:59of evolutionism
11:01and then he establishes
11:02this wrong analogy
11:04for which
11:05the men who have
11:08these brain structures
11:10details
11:11those would be the ones
11:13who have this predisposition
11:14to criminal behavior.
11:19In reality this discipline
11:22that makes us smile
11:23the idea that there are people
11:26scientists
11:26that they have passed
11:27months
11:28years of their lives
11:29to measure skulls
11:31and they actually did it
11:32in fact these collections
11:33they are gigantic
11:36it was a thing
11:37who had
11:37how to say
11:38a knowledge
11:39which had reached
11:40a level of refinement
11:41incredible
11:42but it was of little use
11:43above all it was not needed
11:45to demonstrate
11:46what they
11:47they wanted to demonstrate
11:48that is, to explain
11:49human behavior.
11:53Lombroso wrote
11:54the expertise
11:55on Verzeni
11:56and it's a bit
11:58a fundamental juncture
12:00to understand
12:00his thoughts.
12:01Yes because
12:02Lombroso
12:04he already teaches
12:05anthropology
12:06which is an anthropology
12:07physics
12:08so based
12:08note on measurement
12:10the research precisely
12:11some peculiarities
12:12of the races
12:13anthropology
12:16nineteenth-century
12:16it's an anthropology
12:17racist.
12:21The Verzeni case
12:23gives him
12:24In short
12:24the idea
12:25That
12:25certain types of crimes
12:27reflect precisely
12:28the re-emergence
12:28of primal instincts
12:30And
12:31on this note
12:32founds
12:32this theory
12:33that calls
12:34criminal atavism.
12:37What reflections does he make?
12:38on his features
12:39somatic?
12:41Find it in him
12:42these traits
12:43because obviously
12:44then these reports
12:45they were looking for that
12:46that they wanted to demonstrate
12:47so find in him
12:48the traits
12:49primitives.
12:56Who commits crimes
12:57for Lombroso
12:58era
12:59biologically
13:00defective
13:01this idea
13:01at least initially
13:02what criminals
13:04you are born.
13:06He writes
13:075 editions
13:07of a delinquent man
13:08the first
13:09in 1876
13:10in which he says
13:11that in essence
13:12there are certain crimes
13:13like that
13:14by Verzeni
13:15that explain to us
13:16that the criminal
13:18And
13:19a being
13:20prehistoric.
13:22This thesis
13:23is successful
13:25but it comes right away
13:25criticized
13:26so already at the moment
13:28in which he
13:28the public ones
13:30they appear
13:31many
13:32extremely
13:33forced
13:34others
13:34they accept it
13:35some parts
13:36and reject it
13:38other
13:38others
13:38they don't accept them
13:39not at all.
13:43But we must
13:44also keep in mind
13:44This
13:45that we are
13:45in full positivism
13:46and also
13:47those who are
13:48critics
13:49by Lombroso
13:49they believe
13:50in a base
13:51organic
13:52only that
13:53rather than
13:54to trace back
13:55the right
13:55to an atavism
13:56criminal
13:56so a missed one
13:57evolution
13:58they thought
13:59rather
13:59to degeneration
14:00but also the degeneration
14:02has a base
14:03organic
14:04Exactly
14:07It's a bit cold today
14:09impression
14:10think
14:11that it can be
14:12believe
14:12that a thief
14:13have
14:14predominantly
14:15small eyes
14:16the eyebrows
14:17crowded
14:17the crooked nose
14:18while instead
14:19they murder him
14:21wide cheekbones
14:22nose
14:22quilino
14:23black hair
14:23And
14:25frizzy
14:26and it makes an impression
14:27see this
14:27overview
14:28with labels
14:29that face
14:30it's the face
14:30of the rapist
14:31this other one
14:32of a scammer
14:37but
14:37this attention
14:38to the criminal
14:38and not only
14:39to the crime
14:40change
14:41a bit
14:42also the way
14:42to perceive
14:43the afterlife
14:44of the criminal
14:45Yes
14:46Why
14:47second note
14:48this
14:48the one that comes
14:50call
14:50the positive school
14:51that
14:51the Italian school
14:52anyway that one
14:53which leads back to
14:54in the shade
14:55There are
14:57criminals
14:58on sale
14:59that is, people
14:59that are found
15:00in a state
15:00of necessity
15:01such as to have to
15:03commit
15:04precisely
15:04of the crimes
15:06that they shouldn't
15:07don't even enter
15:08in prison
15:09why prison
15:10it can only make them worse
15:14Therefore
15:15the idea
15:17That
15:18the school
15:20positive
15:21he supports
15:22it is of a
15:23complete reform
15:24of the penal systems
15:26Therefore
15:26there won't have to be
15:28more to be
15:28a type of punishment
15:30graduated
15:30on the crime
15:31but on the contrary
15:32it is based
15:33to the danger
15:34of the subject
15:35what happens
15:36the graduation
15:36of the penalty
15:37and then
15:37in case
15:38of criminals
15:39on sale
15:39of criminals
15:41that they don't have
15:41this base
15:42attack
15:42really
15:43they claim
15:44that should
15:44there are measures
15:45alternative
15:46to prison
15:49we can say
15:50which have been
15:51underestimated
15:52the components
15:53economic
15:54social
15:54almost as if
15:55the crime
15:56the motive
15:57of the crime
15:58it was only
15:59a drive
15:59internal
16:00they can't be done
16:00but
16:01to exclude
16:02the factors
16:02of context
16:05it comes to mind
16:07another case
16:07in years
16:08decidedly
16:09subsequent
16:09in the 40s
16:10Ernesto's
16:11Picchini
16:12who is killed
16:13for the purpose of robbery
16:14in an Italy
16:14very poor
16:1647th
16:17kilometer
16:18of the street
16:18Salaria
16:18he lived here
16:20the monster
16:20of which
16:21we won't let you down
16:22see
16:22the atrocious
16:23Images
16:23the marshal
16:25gray
16:25it makes you revolt
16:25the earth
16:26of the gloomy
16:26graveyard
16:27clandestine
16:27I earn
16:29selling
16:29the snails
16:30the monster said
16:31the brothers
16:32they saw
16:32emerge
16:33the bones
16:33by Alessandro
16:34Data
16:34they recognized
16:35the puppy
16:35which got stuck
16:36per kilometer
16:37of death
16:37the monster
16:38Like this
16:39with this
16:39appellation
16:42he had become famous
16:43in the post-war period
16:48threatened to bury
16:49me and his mother
16:50our four children
16:52if we opened our mouths
16:54how many nights
16:55you barked
16:57on a corpse
17:01in addition to the two bodies
17:02buried in his field
17:03Ernesto Picchioni
17:04confess
17:05two more murders
17:09subsequently
17:10they are found
17:11in the same area
17:12other human remains
17:13never connected to Picchioni
17:15but for public opinion
17:16they will also be
17:17proof of the ferocious
17:18of the monster of Nerola
17:22look at it
17:23he buried his victims
17:25in the home garden
17:26listen
17:27she who condemns
17:28the gasto
17:30for what crime
17:31his murder
17:33what country is it in?
17:35of Nerola
17:35and she
17:36let's say so
17:37he is sorry
17:38of what he did
17:39and at a certain point
17:40buried
17:41another point
17:42from injustice
17:44I still see
17:45from justice
17:46especially
17:49I console myself
17:50from what he did
17:51but yes
17:52Good morning
17:56before him
17:57another figure
17:58had imposed itself
17:59to the attention
17:59of public opinion
18:00own
18:01for the ferocity
18:02of his crimes
18:03a story
18:04so terrible
18:05that even over the years
18:06of horrors
18:07of the war
18:08she had succeeded
18:08to leave a mark
18:09indelible
18:10in the collective imagination
18:11such a profound sign
18:13that even today
18:1480 years later
18:16people are still talking about it
18:17it's the story
18:18by Leonardo
18:18from Cianciulli
18:19the soap maker
18:20of Correggio
18:21from this door
18:23the victims entered
18:24made up
18:24they were old women
18:25which Cianciulli
18:26he promised to do it for her
18:27reborn for love
18:28Professor Bracco
18:29she defined
18:30the story
18:31by Leonardo
18:31from Cianciulli
18:32a dark tale
18:34what made
18:34so disturbing
18:36so special
18:37his story
18:37I think they are
18:39two main reasons
18:40a
18:41it's the case
18:43in itself
18:43that is, the modalities
18:45with which this woman
18:46very common
18:47mother of a family
18:49over 40 years old
18:51he killed
18:51three other women
18:53the tools
18:54of the witch
18:54they were primordial
18:55a hammer
18:56and a dark one
18:57he dissected them
18:58and according to legend
19:00let's say it surrounds it
19:01would have tried
19:03of a process
19:04of saponification
19:05of the remains
19:06of his
19:06poor victims
19:08and the other reason
19:09it's time
19:10where all this happens
19:14it's a moment
19:15very particular
19:16which is that
19:17of the transition
19:18from the twenty years of fascism
19:21to the war period
19:23and then
19:23with the process
19:24after the Second World War
19:27in 1946
19:28to the tormented
19:29and dramatic
19:30post-war period
19:42to strike
19:43above all
19:44public opinion
19:45the imaginary
19:46collective
19:47the fact that it was
19:48a woman
19:49murderer
19:49and even more
19:50that she was a mother
19:51and wife
19:51after the rhetoric
19:52fascist
19:53right at that time
19:55maybe that's why
19:56which have been used
19:57of the categories
19:58of the irrational
19:59to make sense
20:00to that horror
20:01explain
20:02in the mid-twentieth century
20:04as she said
20:05the crime
20:08female
20:09can be traced back
20:11only
20:11to an archetype
20:12to a paradigm
20:13which is remade
20:14let's say
20:15to a magical world
20:18very far away
20:19precisely
20:20archetype
20:20which is that
20:21of the witch
20:24just like this
20:26yes you can
20:27make sense
20:28to a story
20:29that for
20:30precisely
20:31the context
20:31cultural
20:32of the time
20:33he would not have had
20:34let's say
20:35easy to understand
20:37the defense must face
20:38to overwhelming evidence
20:40the cianciulli
20:41he asserted
20:41that on his head
20:42a curse weighs
20:43maternal
20:44how important it is
20:45that curse
20:46who says he received
20:48from the mother
20:48how many children
20:49he lost
20:49this woman
20:50this poor woman
20:52she experienced 17 pregnancies
20:54and only 4
20:57they will succeed
20:57let's say
20:58to arrive
20:58to an adult age
21:06on trial
21:07the cianciulli
21:08he claims to have killed
21:09to save his children
21:10here's the little story
21:13Yes
21:13one more time
21:14it intertwines
21:15with the great history
21:16Why
21:17she claims
21:18to have
21:19as if it were
21:20a ritual
21:22propitiatory
21:22killed
21:23the three women
21:25to save
21:26the two sons
21:27bigger ones
21:27from military service
21:29and from death
21:30at war
21:31the trial took place
21:32in Reggio Emilia
21:33for three times
21:34it had to be replaced
21:35the president
21:35here too
21:36we talked
21:36of witchcraft
21:38the two defendants
21:38mother and son
21:40I came to pay
21:40my debt
21:41he said superstitiously
21:42the soap maker
21:43torture me
21:44shoot me
21:45it would be the most beautiful day
21:46of my life
21:47the defense must face
21:48to overwhelming evidence
21:49fundamental process
21:50the analysis
21:51of the psyche
21:52of the accused
21:53the expertise
21:53naturally
21:54it focuses
21:55on the analysis
21:55of the capacity
21:56to understand
21:57to want
21:58of this woman
21:59what emerges
22:00from this expertise
22:01Philip Saporito
22:03which is the allinist
22:04and the criminologist
22:05to whom it is entrusted
22:06the expertise
22:07it is indirectly
22:08a student
22:10by Cesare Lombroso
22:11apply
22:12to the case
22:13by Leonardo
22:14Cianciulli
22:14the entire repertoire
22:16of stereotypes
22:17psychiatric
22:18of clichés
22:19of psychiatry
22:20of the time
22:27he judges her
22:28Indeed
22:29slice
22:30from psychosis
22:30hysterical
22:31That
22:32hysteria
22:33And
22:33let's say
22:34the element
22:35passepartout
22:36what is needed
22:37to explain
22:38for a good part
22:39of the twentieth century
22:40any type
22:41of deviance
22:42female
22:43strikes
22:44like women
22:46at that time
22:47were considered
22:47almost less responsible
22:49of men
22:50with respect to a crime
22:51to a murder
22:52and it tells us a lot
22:53of culture
22:54of humus
22:55in which they matured
22:56these stories
22:57and also
22:57of journalistic reading
22:59what has been done
23:00Certain
23:00it's always there
23:02the problem
23:03of a feminine
23:04which is brought back
23:06in paradigms
23:07cultural
23:08of the time
23:08to an image
23:09very traditional
23:11where
23:12the element
23:13deviant
23:13he is an extraordinary
23:16it's a phenomenon
23:17which is placed
23:17out
23:18from the borders
23:19of normality
23:25Leonarda Cianciulli
23:27he will die
23:27in prison
23:28with this label
23:29madwoman and witch
23:30the use of this category
23:32and reduce it
23:33to this category
23:34it was also a way
23:34of the company
23:35to exorcise evil
23:36his fame
23:38the black legend
23:39the dark tale
23:40tied up
23:40to his name
23:41it is already crystallized
23:43in the process
23:44of 46
23:45Where
23:46I would dare to say
23:48like her
23:48he did
23:49a propitiatory rite
23:51to save the children
23:53Like this
23:53the Italian Republic
23:55he performed a ritual
23:56in the process
23:56to Leonarda Cianciulli
23:58to make sense
23:59to war
24:00to horror
24:01to the tragedy
24:03of the Second World War
24:27even in the case
24:28by Leonarda Cianciulli
24:29the monster
24:30it manifests itself
24:31when madness
24:32takes over
24:33on reason
24:36and that's it
24:37which seems to happen
24:38even in the case
24:39that in Italy
24:39is considered
24:40that of the monster
24:41par excellence
24:44the monster of Florence
24:49many couples
24:51in intimacy
24:51on parked cars
24:54there are dozens of them
24:56of these cars
24:57in single file
24:59the Arno
25:01and the Ponte Vecchio
25:01I'm not far away
25:03the maniac
25:04they say
25:05will not hit
25:05right in the city
25:06but the nightmare
25:07continues
25:11between 1968
25:13and 1985
25:15eight couples
25:17they are killed
25:18in the surroundings of Florence
25:19psychiatrists
25:21they warn
25:22the disease
25:23of this paranoid
25:24shiny
25:24it seems to be getting worse
25:26will strike again
25:27Soon
25:27psychosis
25:29of the maniac
25:30it's palpable
25:31throughout the province
25:32of Florence
25:36watch out guys
25:37danger of attack
25:51to connect
25:52the eight double homicides
25:54it's the murder weapon
25:55to shoot
25:56in all these years
25:57it's always
25:57the same gun
25:58a Beretta
25:59long-barreled
26:00same .22 caliber
26:02same game
26:04of bullets
26:05but in this dramatic
26:07death sequence
26:08what is most striking
26:09public opinion
26:10they are the mutilations
26:12on the bodies
26:12of the girls killed
26:14the girl's body
26:15dragged into the field
26:17presents dozens and dozens
26:19of shots
26:19of a sharp blade
26:21mutilations
26:22to the pubic area
26:23to the breast
26:24of the type of those
26:25already found
26:26on the victims
26:27of similar crimes
26:28attributed
26:29to the monster of Florence
26:30a murderer
26:33driven by madness
26:34murderer
26:35sexually oriented
26:36a murderer
26:37that for public opinion
26:39becomes immediately
26:40the monster
26:41why it is used
26:43the word monster?
26:44I think it helps
26:45to project
26:47out of his mind
26:48a behavior
26:50that humanity
26:51would like to think
26:52that doesn't belong to her
26:54and instead
26:55it's not fair
26:56Why
26:56all that
26:57which is human
26:58it belongs to us
26:59and therefore also
26:59a deviance
27:01so serious
27:02that makes us anxious
27:03we have to recognize it
27:05like ours
27:06and don't try
27:08to eliminate it
27:09from us
27:10after years
27:12of investigations
27:12of false leads
27:13of arrests
27:14and releases
27:15the culprit
27:16seems to have
27:17finally a name
27:18a long series
27:19of clues
27:20and testimonies
27:21they seem to nail
27:22Peter Pacciani
27:23the man was
27:23arrested
27:24because suspected
27:25of seven
27:26of the eight
27:27double homicides
27:27attributed
27:28to the monster
27:28of Florence
27:29Peter Pacciani
27:30tomorrow afternoon
27:31will be found
27:31in front of
27:32the judge
27:32of the investigations
27:33preliminari
27:34the former worker
27:35agricultural
27:36native
27:36from Vicchio
27:37suspect
27:37for 14
27:39of the 16 murders
27:40accomplished
27:40against couples
27:41secluded themselves
27:42on the hills
27:42of Florence
27:45the suspects
27:46on the worker
27:47Tuscan
27:47find confirmation
27:49in the sentence
27:49issued by the court
27:50of Florence
27:51November 1st
27:52of 1994
27:54the name
27:55of the Italian people
27:56the court
27:57of assistance
27:57first degree
27:58of Florence
27:58section one
27:59declares
28:00Pacciani Peter
28:01guilty
28:02in elicts
28:02to him
28:02ascribed
28:03as in the accusation
28:04with the exception
28:05of those
28:05of murder
28:06and of port
28:07of weapon
28:07common
28:07to disembark
28:08relative
28:08to the murder
28:09to the detriment
28:09by Robianco
28:10Antonio
28:10by Locci
28:11Barbara
28:12also excludes
28:13the contravention
28:13of which in the head
28:14bid the accusation
28:15reunited for continuation
28:17and condemns him
28:18to the penalty
28:18of life imprisonment
28:19with insulation
28:20daytime
28:20for the duration
28:213 years old
28:21upon payment
28:22of the legal costs
28:24of pre-trial detention
28:27but after the conviction
28:28in the first degree
28:29Pacciani is acquitted
28:30on appeal
28:31and dies
28:31in 1998
28:32pending
28:34of a new process
28:37but they are condemned
28:39definitively
28:40as material authors
28:41of 4 double homicides
28:43his accomplices
28:44Mario Vanni
28:45and Giancarlo Lotti
28:46the so-called
28:47snack buddies
28:48a sentence
28:49destined to be disputed
28:50the one from last night
28:51who condemned
28:52Mario Vanni
28:53to life imprisonment
28:54and Giancarlo Lotti
28:55to 30 years in prison
28:57to spy and kill
28:59the lovers
28:59on the hills of Florence
29:01it was a gang
29:01and not a maniac
29:02Peter Pacciani
29:03he was the boss
29:04Mario Vanni
29:05and Giancarlo Lotti
29:05his accomplices
29:06the sentence
29:07of the assize court
29:09it's a sort of
29:09of condemnation placed
29:10but also for the farmer
29:11of Mercatale
29:12Valdipesa
29:15the monster of Florence
29:16he scored
29:17more than anyone else
29:18Italian criminal history
29:19the fear of the population
29:21the murders
29:22which continued
29:23for a period of time
29:23so long
29:24and the endless procedural history
29:26truly infinite
29:27why at 50 years old
29:29from the first murder
29:30there is still no certainty
29:31on the true identity
29:32of the Monster of Florence
29:33and still investigating
29:34all this
29:35contributed
29:36to keep high
29:37attention
29:38of public opinion
29:39because when you have
29:40what to do
29:41with criminals
29:42with monsters
29:42of this type
29:43there is something
29:44that goes beyond
29:45serial killers
29:46more violent
29:47they always have
29:48exercised
29:49a very large one
29:49fascination
29:55here is the villa
29:56of Sielo Drive
29:57in Bel Air
29:58in California
29:59theater of one
30:00of news stories
30:01more bloodthirsty
30:02of American history
30:03It's August 8th
30:04of 69
30:05Manson sends
30:06his followers
30:07to massacre
30:08actress Sharon Tate
30:10director's wife
30:11Roman Polanski
30:128 months pregnant
30:13and 4 friends
30:15the carnage
30:17continues the next night
30:18Target chosen at random
30:20an entrepreneur
30:21and his wife
30:22killed in a house
30:23from Los Angeles
30:29she didn't care
30:31of his victims
30:34I don't care
30:34Charles Manson
30:36he never showed
30:37remorse
30:37until the end
30:38mass killer
30:40Satan worshiper
30:41manipulator
30:42sentenced to death
30:43Manson's sentence
30:44it was commuted
30:45in life imprisonment
30:46after California
30:47executions suspended
30:48but somehow
30:50the sick cult
30:51of his personality
30:52by thousands
30:53of fans
30:54it continued over time
31:01Manson
31:01with the swastika
31:02tattooed on the forehead
31:04and the crazy look
31:05it almost seems like
31:06gives reason to the shady one
31:07but in Veneto
31:08on horseback
31:09between the 70s
31:09and the 80s
31:10it occurs
31:11a series of murders
31:12really disturbing
31:13accomplished
31:14from a serial killer
31:15of a completely different kind
31:21actually
31:21there were two
31:22serial killers
31:23two boys
31:24with the face
31:24of angel
31:25of the Verona Bene
31:26gone down in history
31:27with the name
31:28by Ludwig
31:28the acronym
31:29with which they claimed
31:31their massacres
31:32of mold
31:32neo-Nazi
31:37then we ask ourselves
31:38if they wanted
31:40hit them
31:41or if there was
31:42some other
31:42motive
31:43and we don't know
31:44understand then
31:45what motive
31:46they were crazy
31:47they were drug addicts
31:48they were people
31:49that ideologically
31:51they contrasted
31:52with other ideas
31:53we know it
31:54find your own
32:00last night
32:01with a letter
32:02to ANSA
32:02of Milan
32:03the crime
32:03it has been claimed
32:04from the group
32:05neo-Nazi
32:06Ludwig
32:06the group
32:07Ludwig
32:08it's not new
32:08to such enterprises
32:09from 77 to today
32:11in the Veneto
32:11he signed
32:12seven crimes
32:13one a year
32:14as in a sort of
32:15of hallucinating
32:15sacrificial rite
32:24a match
32:25and it would have been
32:26the massacre
32:27right away
32:28we talked
32:29by Ludwig
32:29the group
32:31neo-Nazi
32:31that in seven years
32:33he signed
32:34fourteen crimes
32:42the murders committed
32:44from serial killers
32:45according to the definition
32:46of the department
32:47of American justice
32:48they have motives
32:49of a psychological nature
32:51often in the background
32:52sadistic
32:53and sexual
32:53between the victim
32:54and the murderer
32:55there must not be
32:56by force
32:56an acquaintance
32:57a direct link
32:58and that's why
32:59that serial killers
33:00create a huge
33:01social alarm
33:02because really
33:03anyone could
33:04become a victim
33:07and they could be
33:08many more
33:09the victims
33:10by Mattei Purko
33:11the suspected man
33:12of cannibalism
33:13and killed
33:13from the police
33:14Slovak
33:15among themselves
33:15Perhaps
33:16some Italian girls
33:20cannibalism
33:21anthropophagy
33:22if you prefer
33:23the horrible appetites
33:25by Mattei Purko
33:26they were
33:26the same
33:28by Jeffrey Dahmer
33:29the monster
33:29from Milwaukee
33:30rather than
33:31by Andrei Cicatilo
33:32the butcher
33:33from Rostov
33:34faces
33:35what will be
33:35difficult
33:36forget
33:37in some
33:39in some cases
33:39different elements
33:40compete
33:41to create
33:41a real one
33:42psychosis
33:43that's what happened
33:44between Liguria and Piedmont
33:45from 97 to 98
33:47when 17 people
33:49they were killed
33:50from the train killer
33:54fear for the weekend
33:55in Liguria
33:56it is feared that the serial killer
33:57of the trains
33:57may strike again
33:58on the weekend
33:59April 25th
34:00the latest crimes
34:01in fact they have been done
34:02on holidays
34:03immediately preceding
34:07the trains are armored
34:09with uniformed officers
34:09to monitor
34:10the stations
34:10and policewomen
34:11in plain clothes
34:12on the convoys
34:13throughout Liguria
34:15it's an emergency
34:16and the twentieth
34:17unsolved murder
34:18in a few months
34:19a macabre death rite
34:21that repeats itself
34:22and it bleeds
34:22again
34:23the western Ligurian coast
34:24a gunshot
34:25to the head
34:25and life
34:26of another
34:26young prostitute
34:27it's broken
34:29it has now become
34:30an extreme challenge
34:31between a psychopath
34:32and the police
34:33the enemy
34:34use bullets
34:35shirtless
34:36that shatter
34:37in the head
34:37of the victims
34:38leaving traces
34:39unusable
34:41the killer
34:42he shot
34:43with a gun
34:44small caliber
34:45using the jacket
34:46to soften the blow
34:47after having done
34:48to kneel
34:48the girl
34:49an execution
34:50identical
34:51to that one
34:51of the others
34:51cold fireflies
34:52in the Savona area
34:53four
34:54in the last
34:54month and a half
34:55the identikits
34:57for now
34:58there are three
34:58small
34:59thin
35:0035-40 years old
35:01olive skin
35:02sharp face
35:04Perhaps
35:05little
35:05almost nothing
35:09but it appears
35:10even the nightmare
35:11of the serial killer
35:12because it is always
35:13a bullet to the head
35:14to execute
35:15the young prostitutes
35:16it is certain
35:16that the planet
35:17of the market
35:18of sex
35:18lives in terror
35:20and now we come
35:20to the arrest
35:21of man
35:21suspected
35:22of 6
35:22of the 8 murders
35:23of the last few months
35:24in Liguria
35:25in lower Piedmont
35:26donated budget
35:27at 47 years old
35:28of power
35:28but damage
35:29residents in Genoa
35:30with a criminal record
35:31and mental problems
35:32here is the probable one
35:34serial killer
35:34of Liguria
35:35donated budget
35:36at 47 years old
35:37of power
35:37resident in Genoa
35:38for a long time
35:39the man was
35:40arrested by the Carabinieri
35:41of the Ligurian chiefologist
35:42at noon
35:42and now it is located
35:43in prison
35:44of Marassi
35:45Dr. De Rosa
35:47who is donated balance sheet
35:48the man who killed
35:4917 people
35:50what is his profile
35:51psychological?
35:52Balance sheet
35:53he is a gentleman
35:54of average intelligence
35:56who loves to describe himself
35:58like a player
35:59exceptional
35:59like a playboy
36:00in fact instead
36:02he is a gentleman
36:03extremely insecure
36:04someone who is not capable
36:06of social relations
36:07has some features
36:07narcissistic
36:08very marked
36:09a perception
36:10grandiose in itself
36:12a functioning
36:13which follows
36:14the logic
36:14all or nothing
36:15a poor tolerance
36:16to frustrations
36:17a feeling
36:18very humiliating
36:19for him
36:19to have always been
36:20somehow
36:21betrayed
36:22set aside
36:22or injured
36:23from people
36:23to which in some way
36:25he showed affection
36:26or feelings
36:26and then
36:27the necessity
36:28very strong
36:29to be someone
36:30the budget one
36:30it's a unique case
36:31that marks history
36:32Italian criminal
36:33but what does he do
36:34of the donated budget
36:35a serial killer
36:36what happens
36:37inside him?
36:39Meanwhile
36:40there is no
36:40a switch
36:42no serial killer
36:43start directly
36:45from the murder
36:45in the history of the budget
36:46which is really special
36:47because in him
36:47three souls coexist
36:48that of the murderer
36:50for reasons
36:51of treason robbery
36:52of the killer
36:52of prostitutes
36:53and then the murderer
36:54on trains
36:54actually
36:55it can be said
36:56what a balance sheet
36:57start killing
36:58and he does it
36:59for reasons
37:00which are very
37:00similar
37:01to those for which
37:02they accomplish
37:03the murders
37:03serial killer
37:04for a mixture
37:05of necessity
37:06of control
37:07of domain
37:07of possession
37:08for the idea
37:09even a little bit
37:10omnipotent
37:10and to decide
37:11of life
37:11and death
37:11of people
37:13to the experts
37:14of the prosecution
37:14who visit it
37:15after his arrest
37:15he will say
37:16I can't understand
37:17because at a certain point
37:18moment
37:19I became
37:20a killer
37:20a serial killer
37:22it happened to me
37:23a fact indeed
37:24strange
37:24unsettling
37:25I was leaving the house
37:26and I decided
37:27to kill
37:27just as I would have
37:28could decide
37:29to go to the restaurant
37:30with extreme naturalness
37:32but
37:33when is he
37:34gets the meaning
37:35of being able to pass
37:36from a fantasy
37:37to a ritual
37:39which is put into play
37:40probably
37:40after the third murder
37:42after the murder
37:43of the couple
37:43of the jewelers
37:44that's the moment
37:45key
37:46in which probably
37:47he understands
37:47to be able to ritualize
37:49this mechanism
37:53robbed and killed
37:54while they were searching
37:55help
37:56just like that
37:57the features of the city
37:58they seem to have changed
37:59now in front
38:00to this explosion
38:01of violence
38:01there is great dismay
38:04in the end
38:05of the processes
38:07Donato Bilancia
38:08it has been declared
38:08capable of understanding
38:10and to want
38:10so he was aware
38:11when he turned
38:12all these 17 murders
38:14but he also suffers
38:15of a psychiatric pathology
38:17what is the dividing line?
38:19Scales often
38:20he said
38:21when I killed
38:22it wasn't me
38:23and in fact
38:24he did it for two reasons
38:25the first
38:28let's say
38:28more
38:29benign
38:30if we want
38:30regard
38:31an attempt of his
38:32to isolate
38:33emotionally
38:34those gestures
38:35to consider them
38:36so strangers
38:37to himself
38:40the second
38:41likely
38:42actually
38:42is that he
38:43was looking for
38:43somehow
38:44the way
38:44of infirmity
38:45or of semi-infirmity
38:46so some advantages
38:47judicial
38:47in operation
38:48of a pathology
38:49psychiatric
38:51the sentence
38:52the sentence was harsh
38:5213 life sentences
38:53plus another 28 years
38:54of imprisonment
38:55and 3 of isolation
38:56in prison
38:57a sealed sentence
38:58why from prison
38:59Balance
38:59I can't go out anymore
39:01it is the hope
39:01expressed after the sentence
39:03from the relatives of the victims
39:04the pain
39:05the pain remains
39:06but at least
39:07have been recognized
39:08the faults
39:10he is not sick
39:11poor thing
39:12but
39:14the point is that
39:15if it's true
39:16that we
39:17we can't say
39:18That
39:20Balance
39:20be a person
39:21in quotation marks
39:22healthy
39:22from the point of view
39:23clinical
39:23we said
39:24which is a disorder
39:24of personality
39:25narcissistic
39:25important
39:27it's true too
39:28That
39:29in terms
39:30judicial
39:31the disease
39:33That
39:34somehow
39:35is able
39:35to bring
39:36then advantages
39:36that he seeks
39:37must necessarily
39:38to engrave
39:39on cognitive abilities
39:40both on the will
39:42of budgetary gestures
39:43actually
39:43he's someone who doesn't move
39:45nor for
39:46reasons that often
39:47they are called into play
39:48in the law justice
39:48Meaning what
39:49the theme of Jekyll and Hyde
39:50the theme of duplication
39:51of personality
39:52which in reality
39:53they almost don't exist
39:54nor for reasons
39:55tied to another
39:56great topos
39:57of legal psychology
39:59which is that of the rapture
39:59but in psychiatry
40:01it doesn't exist
40:01the category of the rapture
40:03Exactly
40:03it's a category
40:04absolutely questionable
40:06much criticized
40:07from the academic circuit
40:10but
40:10very often
40:11it is used
40:11the concept of rapture
40:13For
40:13somehow
40:15give
40:15label
40:16as pathological
40:17a behavior
40:18not immediately
40:18understandable
40:19the psychiatric assessment
40:21of the prosecution
40:21has already established
40:22that balances
40:23he was capable
40:24to understand
40:24to want
40:25when killed
40:25the experts
40:27that with him
40:27they had dozens
40:28of meetings
40:29they described it
40:30skilled
40:30convincing
40:31refined
40:32intelligent
40:34ceremonious
40:34and bold
40:35what is the structure
40:37of a personality
40:38narcissistic?
40:40the narcissist
40:40he is someone who looks
40:41only to himself
40:42he is someone who has a perception
40:43grandiose in itself
40:44he is someone who does not tolerate
40:45the frustrations
40:46but he is one who
40:48behind this
40:49his apparent
40:50great security
40:51big
40:53self-perception
40:53he has an insecurity
40:55underlying
40:55very strong
40:56one who feels
40:56often humiliated
40:57scales for example
40:59he is someone who tolerates poorly
41:00the humiliating feeling
41:02of being betrayed
41:03unloved
41:04especially from the person
41:05to whom he did good
41:06or he thought he had done good
41:07Donato Bilancia Process
41:09he says
41:11I think I am
41:13a madman
41:14but a lucid madman
41:15I'm convinced
41:16that something
41:16it doesn't work for me
41:17I am anyway
41:19responsible for everything
41:20there is this
41:21co-presence
41:22of elements?
41:23there is because up close
41:24no one is normal
41:25and why
41:26Libra is a person
41:28which has however
41:29of the critical issues
41:31of fragilities
41:32but
41:32there is anyway
41:34an attempt
41:35a search
41:36to obtain judicial advantages
42:04they can be cured
42:06these serial killers?
42:07actually
42:10No
42:10there is no effective therapy
42:12it's a moment
42:13Anyway
42:13proven effective
42:15for people
42:15like Libra
42:17or for
42:17serial killers
42:18as well as for others
42:19personality tools
42:20which are often linked
42:21to violent behavior
42:23like antisociality
42:23psychopathy
42:32we saw
42:34we saw monsters
42:34of typologies
42:35very different
42:36from Verzenia
42:37to Cianciullia
42:38in Libra
42:39but it exists
42:40a common minimum
42:41denominator
42:41in this typology
42:43of serial killers
42:44in addition to behavior
42:46ritualized
42:47the tracks
42:49which unite
42:50somehow
42:51serial killers
42:52I am
42:52the reasons
42:54that push
42:54that they have
42:55almost always
42:56what to do
42:57except then
42:58specific cases
43:00No?
43:00in one case
43:01maybe there is
43:02a pathology
43:03psychiatric
43:03stronger
43:04in others
43:04there is an idea
43:07purifying
43:07greater
43:08Here you are
43:08Certainly
43:09we can say
43:09that the elements
43:10that unite them
43:11they have to do with
43:12with desire
43:13to be able to
43:15decide
43:16of life
43:16and of death
43:17of a person
43:17the desire
43:19of possession
43:19of that person
43:20the desire
43:21of control
43:22behind the category
43:23monster
43:24we're closing
43:24all that
43:25what it seems to us
43:25inhuman
43:26and what we want
43:27to move away from us
43:28but I really am
43:29so far away
43:30by Nadoi
43:30these monsters
43:32Well
43:33Certainly
43:33they are far away
43:34otherwise
43:34we would have a big problem
43:36but we can say
43:37one thing
43:38that is, that
43:38the dividing line
43:41that separates
43:42of the psychological aspects
43:43for example
43:44of people like Libra
43:46from people
43:47that they are not monsters
43:48it's not then
43:49Like this
43:51Like this
43:51so clear
43:52there is an old rectum
43:53of criminology
43:54who wants the good ones
43:55they dream it
43:55bad guys do it
44:07the monster
44:09the serial killer
44:10the capable one
44:11to kill
44:12without mercy
44:13it appears to us
44:14a being
44:14inhuman
44:15but is it really like that
44:17maybe we have to
44:18do the math
44:19with the fact
44:19than to kill
44:20without a need
44:21following only
44:23one's own impulses
44:24their own essences
44:25one's own follies
44:26it's something
44:27that no other animal
44:29would do
44:29it's something
44:30of deeply human
44:32an exercise
45:04Thank you all.
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