🎙️ What does it take to build a climate tech startup from scratch in a region where the infrastructure doesn't exist yet — and the global green transition wasn't designed for you?
In this episode of Tangelic Talks, hosts Victoria Cornelio and Andres Tamez sit down with Ayah Younis — founder of AuraCap, climate innovator, and ESG reporter based in Jordan — for a conversation about climate innovation from the inside of the MENA region.
Ayah started her career in a medical laboratory analyzing bacteria and disease. When she realized that climate was the root cause of what she was treating, she pivoted everything — completing a climate fellowship, building a team remotely, and developing a device that captures CO2 emissions and converts them into green hydrogen, with zero water consumption and no dependence on grid electricity.
This isn't a story about a tech startup in Silicon Valley.
It's a story about building climate solutions where they're needed most.
In This Episode, We Explore:
🧪 The unlikely path from medical lab science to founding a climate tech company in Jordan
🌡️ Why the MENA region needs its own climate solutions — not imported European technology
💨 What AuraCap does — a low-cost, portable device that converts CO2 into green hydrogen
💧 How AuraCap achieves zero water consumption through a closed-loop renewable energy system
🔋 The state of green hydrogen infrastructure in the MENA region — what's there, what's missing
📊 The carbon credit market in Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE — and where it's heading in five years
💰 What green finance looks like in Jordan — GCF grants, EU funding, and the certification barrier
⚖️ Adaptation vs. mitigation countries — why Jordan's climate position is fundamentally different from the Gulf
🔹 About Our Guest: Ayah Bani Younis is the founder of AuraCap, a Jordan-based climate tech startup building affordable carbon capture and green hydrogen conversion technology for the MENA region. She also works as an ESG reporter, helping regional companies measure and report their sustainability performance under the new GRI framework.
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In this episode of Tangelic Talks, hosts Victoria Cornelio and Andres Tamez sit down with Ayah Younis — founder of AuraCap, climate innovator, and ESG reporter based in Jordan — for a conversation about climate innovation from the inside of the MENA region.
Ayah started her career in a medical laboratory analyzing bacteria and disease. When she realized that climate was the root cause of what she was treating, she pivoted everything — completing a climate fellowship, building a team remotely, and developing a device that captures CO2 emissions and converts them into green hydrogen, with zero water consumption and no dependence on grid electricity.
This isn't a story about a tech startup in Silicon Valley.
It's a story about building climate solutions where they're needed most.
In This Episode, We Explore:
🧪 The unlikely path from medical lab science to founding a climate tech company in Jordan
🌡️ Why the MENA region needs its own climate solutions — not imported European technology
💨 What AuraCap does — a low-cost, portable device that converts CO2 into green hydrogen
💧 How AuraCap achieves zero water consumption through a closed-loop renewable energy system
🔋 The state of green hydrogen infrastructure in the MENA region — what's there, what's missing
📊 The carbon credit market in Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE — and where it's heading in five years
💰 What green finance looks like in Jordan — GCF grants, EU funding, and the certification barrier
⚖️ Adaptation vs. mitigation countries — why Jordan's climate position is fundamentally different from the Gulf
🔹 About Our Guest: Ayah Bani Younis is the founder of AuraCap, a Jordan-based climate tech startup building affordable carbon capture and green hydrogen conversion technology for the MENA region. She also works as an ESG reporter, helping regional companies measure and report their sustainability performance under the new GRI framework.
💬 Join the Conversation: Do you think the global green transition is being built for the right regions? What would climate innovation look like if it started from the Middle East?
Drop your thoughts below 👇
🌱 Support the Mission: Help us amplify stories of clean energy, equity, and climate justice.
👉 TangelicLife.org
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00:00In MENA, the climate is very challenging because we have the disease, we have a very high temperature.
00:10In MENA region, we have a wet temperature high.
00:15Then we have a climate crisis different in the Europe, different in the US.
00:21They should address the carbon capture and the innovation technology that is affordable and appropriate for climate for the region,
00:32not to import this technology.
00:35We should address the challenges, then innovate in this way.
00:39I really love, personally, hydrogen as a fuel source of the future, right?
00:45But it's very hard to, it's not just over there that it's a problem with the infrastructure, it's everywhere.
00:50At this point, right?
00:52The only place that has like a middling infrastructure for hydrogen that I know of, as a fuel source, for
01:00example.
01:01I think we should get attention for the carbon credits, actually, because there is a market ready.
01:20Welcome to Tangelic Talks, your go-to podcast from Tangelic, where we dive into the vibrant world of clean energy,
01:27development, sustainability, and climate change in Africa.
01:30We bring you inspiring stories, insightful discussions, and groundbreaking innovations from the continent-making waves in the global community.
01:38Tune in and join the conversation toward a brighter, greener future.
01:42Let's get started.
01:47Welcome to Tangelic Talks, a podcast at the intersection of energy, equity, and empowerment, with your co-hosts, Victoria Cornelio
01:53and Andres James.
01:54In today's episode, we're talking with Aya, and this conversation sits right at the intersection of where climate ambition meets
02:01real-world execution.
02:03Aya is the founder of ARACAP, a climate innovator, SG reporter, and someone deeply invested in the fast-evolving world
02:09of carbon markets and climate tech in the Middle East.
02:11So today, we're diving into all these topics and looking at the big question at the heart of this season,
02:18how finance and technology are really driving, or sometimes distorting, Aya will help us understand that, climate action.
02:25Welcome to Tangelic Talks.
02:27Hello.
02:28Hello.
02:28Hi, everybody.
02:30I'm Aya Younes from Jordan.
02:32Actually, thanks for your invitation in the Tangelic Talks podcast.
02:36I'm really interested in these talks this evening.
02:41Honestly, I'm beginning with a medical lab technologist from Jordan.
02:47Then I do a career shift into a climate, and I love from old the environment challenges and how it's
02:56affected in the people, and to do something that's really very impactful and scalable for innovation.
03:06That's incredible.
03:07That's really cool.
03:08So how did he go from a more medical field, lab field, into founding ARACAP?
03:14What was that journey like?
03:15Okay, well, so in the medical and in the lab technologies, we are analyzing the disease and bacteria, but the
03:25root cause is about the climate factors, is linked in the climate factor and air quality.
03:31And when I release this thinking, I don't want any more for analyzing, I want to be more impactful and
03:40more scalable, then I do a career shift to it.
03:45Oh, okay.
03:46So you were like, I don't want to treat the issue, I want to cut it from the source.
03:50Yeah.
03:52Yeah.
03:52Yeah.
03:52I want to be, I want more impactful person.
03:55Like I don't want to be a routinely person that have a routine work and analyzing this analytical, analyzing the
04:05disease is not the innovative way.
04:09It's very routine works.
04:11Yeah.
04:12So I want to be, because it's very linked to the climate factor and the environment, because the climate change
04:19is not the environmental challenges.
04:21It is a health, it is economical, and it is socially challenged.
04:27Yeah, it's all intersecting.
04:29But then how did your academic background in that laboratory science medical analysis shape your data driven approach to climate
04:37tech?
04:37Okay, to be honest, there is a lot of challenging because I have a medical science, not engineering science.
04:44And so when I like linked with or a cap and linked with the climate innovation, I have a science
04:52challenging, a connecting economics business.
04:55I have a lot of challenging, but that begins me to be a challenging person that's like, no, I want
05:02to be a real, I want to be innovative.
05:04So that's why I don't see the challenging.
05:08I'm focused on innovation and challenging myself to insert this science.
05:13I learned from a fellowship about the climate and sustainability.
05:17Then I do a career shift, not, not only a science.
05:21I do the science and the career shifts on one year of my life to get the science about the
05:27climate and sustainability.
05:29Wow, that was a quick turnaround.
05:31You were like, okay, I'm doing this and just went for it.
05:34Yeah.
05:34Just learn all the, everything you needed to as fast as possible.
05:39Yeah.
05:40That's super cool.
05:41I mean, I guess, okay, we've mentioned ARACAP a few times.
05:45So can you tell our listeners where ARACAP is?
05:47What gap did you see in the market that ARACAP is filling?
05:51Here in MENA, the climate is very changing because we have the disease.
05:58We have a very high temperature in MENA region.
06:03We have a wet temperature high.
06:07Then we have a climate crisis different in the Europe, different in the US.
06:13They, they should address the carbon capture and the innovation technology that is affordable
06:20and appropriate for climate for the region, not to import this technology.
06:27We should address the challenging, then innovate in this way, then scale up our technologies.
06:34Mm-hmm.
06:36That's a great idea.
06:37So ARACAP.
06:38Yeah.
06:40Yes.
06:41So ARACAP is addressing the climate crisis in the, like in the MENA market and in the
06:48MENA region and in the MENA climate, but it is very affordable for like US and UK climate,
06:57but it is focused on a climate and environment suffering from a high temperature environment.
07:06Right.
07:07Right.
07:08Tell, can you tell us a little bit more about the carbon capture stuff?
07:12Because that seems to be, so like, why is that the focus when it comes to your specific area?
07:18Is it just because of the, because it increases the temperature even more than natural or, you know?
07:24Okay.
07:26So a carbon capture is the carbon, is the capture the CO2 emissions and the GHG emissions.
07:36So here is in MENA region, we don't have any innovation and any like technologies that focus on the
07:44emissions and focus to reduce the emissions, but in Europe and in globally focuses in the carbon emissions.
07:52So we, if we are to scale the market and to open a new market in any region, we need
08:00to, to be a standard that very appropriate for the EU and to have access to sell our product and
08:11to get a new market.
08:13That's why I focused to reduce imaging and to found the ORACAB.
08:18The ORACAB is very low cost portable device that can reduce the CO2 emissions from point of source or from
08:28the air and convert it to a valuable products.
08:32Even in a hydrogen, green hydrogen, I'm focused on this area specifically.
08:38So we can reduce the emissions by reducing the dependence of the fuel cell, the fuel energy or petrol energy,
08:48benzene, and instead of hydrogen, green hydrogen specifically.
08:54Exactly.
08:55That's super cool.
08:56So the, the emissions are just directly, you, you, the, the, the sort of a sell for ORACAB is that
09:03the emissions are, are, it's not just that you're capturing them.
09:07It's that you're transforming them.
09:09It's that you're turning them into, into sustainable fuel, like a, like a, like green hydrogen.
09:14Okay.
09:16Cool.
09:16Very, very interesting.
09:18Yes.
09:18Because, uh, there is a lot of technology about the carbon capture is, uh, very addressed the carbon capture to
09:27capturing and storage the carbon.
09:29And there is no visible and economic visible on this way.
09:34And, uh, here in MENA, we are very interesting in, uh, the economic visible for any technologies because we're suffering
09:41a lot of economic challenges.
09:43And, uh, a lot of climate challenges for, we are interesting to an economics as well.
09:50That's why, uh, capturing, converting CO2 to, uh, an economic, uh, products.
09:58As you were mentioning earlier, that's the scalable part, right?
10:02Yeah.
10:02You can scale it because it's at, it actually generates a profit, uh, or it generates a product at least.
10:08Yes.
10:09Yes.
10:10Mm-hmm.
10:10That's a, that's a small one.
10:12And in the, yeah, in, in the infrastructure, like what, what is, what is hydrogen fuel used for?
10:18Um, is there a market for it, um, over there?
10:22Like is, is, is it, yeah.
10:25But once it's, once you convert it to, to, to hydrogen, what is, uh, what is the infrastructure for it?
10:29Uh, so when I convert it to hydrogen, there is a lot of ways, uh, to, uh, like use it.
10:36We can convert it to an ammonia, green ammonia, then used to an industry is interested in the ammonia, especially
10:44agriculture industries.
10:45Or we can convert it to electric electricity by using the fuel cell.
10:52And this is a machine that, uh, convert to electricity.
10:56Uh, or we can, uh, storage it and import it to, uh, countries interested in green hydrogen as well.
11:05So there's a lot of way, but infrastructure is a very challenging here because it's, uh, a leak infrastructure and,
11:14um, have a times, a times over to, uh, do a good infrastructure.
11:21We don't have a good infrastructure here for a hydrogen, but, uh, there is a way to be appropriate.
11:30Absolutely.
11:31I, I, I really love a personally hydrogen as a, as a fuel source of the future.
11:36Right.
11:36But it's, it's very hard to, it's not just over there that it's a problem with the infrastructure.
11:41It's everywhere at this point.
11:43Right.
11:43Um, the only, the only place that has like a middling infrastructure for, for, for hydrogen that
11:49I know of that as a fuel source, for example, is like California.
11:53Um, once you leave there, then it's, it's basically impossible.
11:57Like a certain buses run off of it, certain cars run off of it.
12:01But once you leave the area, then it's, it's, it's harder, but it is, it does seem to be something
12:07that, uh, once technology improves and once we sort of start getting it together.
12:13I, I should, uh, like notice, uh, there's a factory here.
12:18Uh, use a green hydrogen, uh, instead of a fuel.
12:22Like a routine fuel.
12:23Yeah.
12:24There is, uh, reduce the electrode, uh, dependence of electricity about a 70%.
12:29So there is a good economics for this industry as well.
12:34That's great.
12:35And zero emissions for hydrogen.
12:37Right.
12:38Uh, what, what, what is the factory?
12:40Is it, is it, is it just generating electricity or what, what does the factory, uh, do?
12:45Uh, factory is electrochemical.
12:48Okay.
12:49It's, uh, about the, uh, chemicals, uh, for cleaning and so on.
12:53So why is hydrogen infrastructure so hard?
12:56I didn't realize it was outside of California.
12:58It's, it's a challenge.
13:01Yeah, it's, it's very simple technology.
13:03It depends actually on the electrolyzer, but the electrolyzer globally, green hydrogen is
13:10about the electrolyzer with renewable energy, but the electrolyzer not, uh, economically visible.
13:19There is, uh, a lot of energy consuming.
13:22There is a lot of water consuming.
13:25Uh, that's the innovation gap here.
13:28And that's the innovation I, uh, I found myself in.
13:32That's so interesting.
13:34Can you take us back to what are the issues that are specific to the MENA region?
13:40Cause like you said, the, this idea comes specific to address the challenges in the region
13:45that you're in.
13:46Can you tell us a bit more about what those challenges are?
13:48Yes.
13:49There's a lot of challenges actually here because, um, you are not interested.
13:54Firstly, we don't have a good infrastructure for, um, reducing emission innovation and so on.
14:03Then we are challenging about the appropriate, uh, work for innovation.
14:10Like, uh, I'm facing from a grant from financial, uh, to support me.
14:16So I should, uh, begin from this crash actually, and self funding to, uh, build and everything
14:25from my crash and self funding.
14:27Uh, there is a leak of support here, but, uh, we can move on.
14:33Actually, we can move on.
14:35We are now in a pilot phase and we began from zero.
14:40That's a good.
14:41That's very cool.
14:42Congratulations.
14:43Yeah.
14:44When you are interested and when you focused on something in your life and there is a lot
14:50of challenging, you challenge yourself to do it.
14:53You more challenging.
14:55Yeah.
14:56Especially when you're motivated by what it could do.
15:00Right?
15:01So what are you, what I can do.
15:03And what are you, can you explain how AuraCAP is addressing these challenges that you're mentioning
15:09in the meta reason?
15:11So AuraCAP began with the prototype, um, that, uh, it's depending on the chemical innovation.
15:19I, uh, pulled in from a lab, chemical and equations.
15:23Then I pulled an MVP, uh, by the technical partner.
15:28So, uh, we are interesting in the renewable energy.
15:33We don't have, uh, depend on any electricity.
15:36So we don't, uh, need to any emergence more of our AuraCAP.
15:43Then, uh, I addressed the water because we have, uh, a challenging here about the water scarcity.
15:51And when I get my innovation, I should focus to no water more consuming.
15:57So, uh, my innovation is, uh, zero water consuming actually is a closed loop innovation.
16:06Yeah.
16:06It's a closed loop and, uh, depend on the renewable energy as well.
16:12Water and, uh, heat.
16:15You really thought about everything.
16:18Yeah.
16:19That's so cool.
16:21How did you find the people to work with you in this?
16:24Was there something, is, is there something that is being talked about in the region and you knew it was
16:29going to catch on?
16:30Like, how do you build a team around such a innovative new idea?
16:34Okay.
16:35Firstly, actually, it's very hard because you build a new technology.
16:40There is no, um, like people know how is the technology building and work.
16:46Yeah.
16:47So actually I'm search about, uh, the people on the LinkedIn page.
16:52And first ask about this technology.
16:55What is the carbon capture?
16:56What is the carbon absorbance?
16:58What is the challenging?
16:59And I, uh, about a lot of search about the people, uh, actually I get from, uh, PhD, uh, globally,
17:09uh, in the carbon capture, a lot of information that a good pace for me to start in.
17:15But, uh, later on, of course, I built my team.
17:20My team is remotely and, uh, on site.
17:24So, yes.
17:26Yeah.
17:27So it kind of came together slowly, but surely.
17:30Yeah.
17:31That's so cool.
17:32And then I'm guessing there's a lot of finance that goes into starting a project like this.
17:36And you were saying that with grants and, you know, finding the funding, it's hard, but you, you figure out
17:43a way.
17:44I guess, what are the current challenges and opportunities for securing funding and implementing these types of deep tech climate
17:51startups?
17:52Yeah.
17:53And, uh, AI existence, I think to secure funding, there is a lot of failure.
17:59It's not easy because there is a lot of innovation, a lot of ideas that is generated from the charity,
18:07honestly, but, um, I am started from a self funding.
18:13Then when I have an MVP, I secure a grant.
18:17That's why I, I not spelled the idea, only the idea.
18:22No, I pulled the hardware just to prove my concept.
18:25Then I'm exploring about the funding.
18:29How did you know where to go for it?
18:34What's funding in startups like in the MENA region?
18:38Yeah.
18:38Yeah.
18:38I think people have a startup should explore, not only to explore opportunity, should, uh, do a market research about
18:48what market needs, what the market challenging, what the gaps, what the market research increasing.
18:56Uh, then, uh, do a payback, like anything start to, to give feedback financial, then do innovation.
19:05Yeah.
19:06Okay.
19:07Yeah.
19:07You can't just come out with an idea and be like funded.
19:11Yeah.
19:12Yeah.
19:12So, uh, I am now, uh, not only I have a technology like or a cab, uh, and I don't,
19:19uh, work anything.
19:21No, I am the ESG reporter.
19:23I do, uh, an environmental reports.
19:27Um, so I can get the end to end solution or cap.
19:32So I, I need to, uh, pay back for myself to proceed with my innovation.
19:37So I advise people to not focus only on the innovation or the crisis or the anything else.
19:46You should have the routine work or the payback for online or for anything and focus for a part time
19:55for your innovation.
19:56Yeah.
19:57To secure a grant later in.
19:59Yeah.
20:00Building it slowly, but surely.
20:02Yeah.
20:02Can you talk us through a bit what the ESG landscape is at the moment in where you are and
20:09in the MENA region as a whole?
20:11What's the conversation around it?
20:13Okay.
20:14So I, I'm thinking I, uh, talk to you about the carbon capture here and the competitor.
20:20There is, um, a little of competitor, but my competitor is working on a large scale industries.
20:28It's not focusing on the SMEs.
20:31So, uh, SMEs, it's very appropriate for the MPP and file to stage, then scale up.
20:38But, uh, honestly, the large competitor is very expensive, very, very expensive for large industries.
20:46And I think we can, uh, like do a cost effective way from these technologies by innovation.
20:54And with the, with the competitors, like, like you were mentioning your, your unique, one of your unique propositions is
21:00you can transform it into something.
21:01What do they do with the carbon that's captured?
21:03Okay.
21:04A carbon capture, uh, from point source, from the stack of industries like energy intensive industries.
21:12And, uh, they storage it or they use it, uh, to a carbonate, calcium carbonate, or anyway.
21:21They're storage the carbon in the ground, under the ground, actually.
21:26Uh, the, they should have, uh, like a geographical photos and, uh, GIS partnership.
21:34There is a complicated to storage the carbon under the ground, but, uh, they are interesting in the carbon credit
21:43market.
21:44So on, but we can storage the carbon into a calcium carbonate and into a carbonate like any ways to
21:53convert it to a solid product.
21:56It's a permanent storage bin.
21:58Hmm.
21:59What's that carbon credit market like in the Mera region?
22:04So carbon credit in the Mera region, uh, into area, honestly, and the Emirates, Dubai, there's a policies for the
22:12carbon market.
22:18Um, and here we are in Jordan interested, uh, to build a policies for carbon market.
22:25So there's existence in carbon market and carbon credits, uh, carbon credits.
22:30It's about the industries, uh, have, uh, high emissions and they don't want to, uh, use any technologies to reduce
22:40the emissions.
22:41So, um, offset, it's spelled the offset.
22:45What is the offset?
22:46It, uh, resell or, uh, buy the carbon credits from others, buyers.
22:52Are there any misconceptions in the carbon offsetting carbon, uh, markets that you feel are stopping either the proliferation of
23:03them or that are stopping companies from engaging in carbon markets?
23:06Uh, here in Jordan, no, there's no engaging in carbon markets.
23:11Uh, carbon credits.
23:13Uh, but, uh, I think in five years, the carbon credits will increase, uh, very increasingly and quickly increase this
23:23market.
23:23So we should thinking, uh, and, uh, anyways, to do a carbon credits carbon credits.
23:29They didn't intervene, uh, only in the, uh, carbon capture and storage.
23:34It's, uh, depend on the reduce emissions reporting and, uh, verifying the emission introduced and then welcome to this market.
23:45So, yeah, cause it appears like, to me, like the, the minute, like a lot of the Mena region is
23:50just not very, has not historically been very interested in the green transition.
23:54They're sort of just trying to get by and, and, uh, prosper economically.
24:00Um, but, but that means that there's a lot of potential, especially because they still focus so much on using
24:06carbon fuels.
24:07Right.
24:08Um, as an innovator, like what, what, where do you, where do you think a lot of the motivation will
24:14come from?
24:14Do you think there needs to be more, what does there need, what does there need to be more, uh,
24:19more sort of a top down approach or just more, more information out there so that people are like, Oh,
24:27we can use this.
24:28We should use this.
24:29Yeah.
24:30Uh, this is clear from my own self.
24:33Uh, my motivation is about the challenging.
24:36There's a lot of challenging here and, uh, a lot of things that you should be out of box to
24:43be a rare, to be a special, to be, uh, like, uh, not routinely person because it's a dead routine.
24:52It's not way to be a special person.
24:55My motivation is to be a special person only and then change your, in the worldwide.
25:04I love that.
25:04Is there anything that you're concerned about in the space that you work in and sustainability?
25:10Anything that you feel we should be doing quicker or should get more attention?
25:14Uh, I think, uh, we should get attention for the carbon credits actually this, because there is a market ready
25:23for, uh, the.
25:25Uh, carbon credits, but we, uh, the people don't, uh, how can, how we can deal with this credit.
25:33People don't know how we can deal with this.
25:36So I think people should know more about this market and how to insert this market because it's very inclusive,
25:45increasing, uh, annually.
25:47And, uh, interesting for the economics and for visibility.
25:52Yeah.
25:52What are the benefits of being, of engaging in a carbon market?
25:56What benefits do you see, for example, Jordan getting out of it?
25:59Yeah, there is a lot of benefits.
26:01If I have an industry, uh, there is a, my product will sell a triple X from the, uh, still
26:12before.
26:12Uh, I have open a new markets, you and other countries and have more credibility.
26:22To like project without, um, carbon emissions or need zero products.
26:29There is a good credibility for this industry as well.
26:33If I have the buildings.
26:35So I'm interesting to a green building because there's air quality.
26:40There's a good health.
26:42Uh, there is, um, no headaches as, uh, example.
26:48So there's a lot of benefits, not only in the economics part in the social, in the economic,
26:54in the environment, because the environment is, um, everything in the life environment is
27:00everything, uh, special in COVID, in COVID, uh, period, uh, environment is a carrier.
27:07It's a root cause for the COVID in a worldwide.
27:11So we should think about the climate and the environment more.
27:15And it's, uh, everything is linking.
27:18Is there, is there already a worry?
27:20For example, I think you mentioned this early in the podcast about air quality.
27:25How critical is it?
27:26Yeah.
27:27Uh, so, um, in this period, air quality and, um, so on is very destroyed.
27:35Uh, because we have a lot of bombing and attacks.
27:40So the air quality, uh, and the factors, environmental factors will affected very, uh, very in the people
27:50like health in this period and in a long term period.
27:56So I think we should have a technology now to reduce this emergence and, uh, to drawing this emergence.
28:04Not, uh, by economical, but, uh, for our health to be more good.
28:10Yeah.
28:11Yeah.
28:11It directly, directly affects the people.
28:15I guess I want to close out by asking you, there's a lot of people, especially now that
28:22with the green, um, sector growing so much want to move into the green sector, but they
28:28don't have a green background or a sustainability background.
28:32Yeah.
28:32You did it.
28:33You moved.
28:34So what would be your advice to someone who's wanting to get into the sector, who has an idea,
28:39who wants to work in sustainability?
28:41Okay.
28:42So people in the green sector and don't want to scale.
28:47Don't want to innovate.
28:48Don't want any positive economics in the five years later.
28:55Stay on the side.
28:57But if you want more credibility, more economics and your economics increase and your credibility,
29:06your scale, even your green finance and grants and everything depends on the green and sustainable
29:14background.
29:15You should have this background to scale your technology, to open the opportunities and to
29:22get the green finance.
29:24Amazing.
29:25Well, thank you so much, Aya.
29:27We're going to stay on for a couple more minutes and talk a bit more technical, understand
29:32your technology a bit better.
29:33And if you're interested in that and learning more about ARACAP, you can check the blog
29:37at Tangellilife.org.
29:39And we'll catch you guys on the next one.
29:42Thank you very much.
29:43I'm really, very happy to join with you.
30:10Bye.
30:17Bye.
30:19with you.