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Late Night with Seth Meyers - Season 13 - Episode 01: Kristen Stewart, Wagner Moura
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00:30I'm Seth Meyers. This is a late night.
00:31We hope you're all doing well.
00:32And now, if you don't mind, I'm going to get to the news.
00:35The U.S. attacked Venezuela over the weekend
00:37and captured Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro and his wife.
00:41So, just as I thought,
00:43Trump and I had very different New Year's resolutions.
00:51At least he did his.
00:55The White House released photos over the weekend
00:57showing President Trump watching the U.S. military
00:59strikes on Venezuela from a room in Mar-a-Lago.
01:02Is that a room?
01:04It's just a bunch of black curtains.
01:06That looks like where they keep Stephen Miller
01:08until the sun goes down.
01:11When asked yesterday if he's considering
01:14U.S. military operations against Colombia
01:16after the capture of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro,
01:20President Trump told reporters,
01:21That sounds good to me.
01:23All right, so maybe a reporter should stop suggesting stuff to him?
01:27President Trump, are you considering launching a nuclear strike
01:30against the sun?
01:31Yeah, that's a good idea. Thank you.
01:35During a press conference over the weekend,
01:36President Trump announced that the U.S. military
01:38has seized the president of Venezuela
01:40and added the U.S. will temporarily, quote,
01:43run the country.
01:44What are you talking about?
01:45We can't even run our country.
01:48We had to invent GoFundMe
01:50so people could get root canals.
01:53The U.S. trying to run another country
01:55is like a coke addict trying to run a rehab center.
01:57We're bringing a lot of energy
01:59and no relevant experience.
02:02The White House recently provided an analysis
02:05of President Trump's EKG to The Wall Street Journal,
02:08which claimed President Trump's cardiac age
02:10is that of a 65-year-old.
02:13A 65-year-old dog?
02:23And they were like, yeah.
02:26You got us.
02:27We didn't think you'd ask a follow-up.
02:31Like a 400-year-old man.
02:34Well, speaking to reporters yesterday,
02:36aboard Air Force One,
02:37President Trump said that Elon Musk is, quote,
02:3980% super genius and 20% he makes mistakes.
02:42And frankly, I'm just amazed,
02:44Trump picked numbers that add up to 100.
02:48President Trump hosted a New Year's Eve party
02:50last week at Mar-a-Lago
02:52featuring a performance from rapper Vanilla Ice.
02:54What year were you celebrating?
02:571990, Happy New Year, everybody.
02:59I got you all snap bracelets.
03:04Well, speaking to reporters yesterday on Air Force One,
03:06President Trump called Colombian President Gustavo Petro
03:09a, quote,
03:10sick man who likes making cocaine.
03:12And I can't believe I'm saying this,
03:13but maybe he'd try some?
03:18New York Mayor Zoran Mondani
03:20rode the subway to work on Friday
03:22on his first full day as mayor,
03:23said, Mondani,
03:24Sorry, I'm late.
03:29McDonald's is facing a new federal class action lawsuit
03:33that accuses the fast food chain
03:34of falsely claiming its McRib sandwich
03:37contains real pork rib meat
03:39when it's actually made of restructured shoulder,
03:42heart, tripe, and scalded stomach.
03:44Yeah, but people don't get as excited
03:47when you say the McStomach is back.
03:52That's right.
03:53McDonald's is facing a lawsuit
03:54that accuses them of falsely claiming
03:56its McRib sandwich contains real pork rib meat.
03:59But come on, did anyone really believe it did?
04:02I got more bad news for you.
04:04These aren't French.
04:07And finally, a 535-pound bluefin tuna
04:10sold today at auction in Tokyo Fish Market
04:13for a record $3.2 million.
04:16It's also the first auction ever attended
04:18by a wealthy orca.
04:24That's exactly what I wanted them to look like.
04:27That was a monologue, everybody.
04:29Look at us.
04:30It's a new year.
04:32And we're going to celebrate
04:33with a fantastic show for you tonight.
04:36She's a terrific actress
04:37you've seen in films such as
04:39Spencer, Still Alice, and Love's Lies Bleeding.
04:41She was also nice enough
04:42to go day drinking with me,
04:44which made me, as everyone here attests,
04:46significantly cooler.
04:47Her new movie,
04:48which is also her directorial debut,
04:50The Chronology of Water,
04:51is in theaters this Friday, January 9th.
04:54Kristen Stewart is back on the show, everybody.
04:58And you know him from shows like
05:00Narcos and Dope Thief,
05:02as well as films such as Civil War
05:04and The Gray Man.
05:05He's starring in a terrific film,
05:07The Secret Agent,
05:08which is in theaters now.
05:09Wagner Mora is also joining us.
05:12I'm so happy he's here before,
05:14however, before we get to all this.
05:17You guys, this is very exciting.
05:19Donald Trump made history this weekend
05:21by becoming the first ever winner
05:23of the FIFA Peace Prize
05:25to bomb another country
05:26and kidnap its leader.
05:28It's the most stunning turn of events
05:30since Hannibal Lecter's high school classmates
05:32voted him least likely to eat your liver.
05:35For more on this,
05:36it's time for a closer look.
05:42As you may know,
05:43the Trump administration
05:43has been threatening Venezuela
05:45and its president, Nicolas Maduro,
05:47for months.
05:48In fact, before he dropped
05:49the real bombs on Venezuela,
05:50Trump dropped an F-bomb.
05:52Maduro offered everything
05:54in his country,
05:56all the natural resources.
05:57He even recorded a message
05:58to you in English recently
06:00offering mediation.
06:01What should we do
06:02in order to stop that?
06:03He has offered everything.
06:05He's offered everything.
06:06You're right.
06:07You know why?
06:08Because he doesn't want to
06:09f*** around with the United States.
06:11Oh, hey!
06:13Are you at the White House
06:14or a strip club in New Jersey?
06:17Who else was at this cabinet meeting?
06:19Christopher and Silvio?
06:20Hey, T, relax.
06:22He's just trying to cooperate, team.
06:24You know, he has, uh,
06:25he has offered everything, Tom.
06:28You know, a lot of people
06:29say a long winter break
06:31and your Sopranos impressions
06:33are going to fall down a notch.
06:36Not for this guy.
06:38So Trump played tough guy
06:40with Maduro,
06:40while Maduro responded
06:41with a slightly different strategy.
06:44Please, please, please.
06:46Jax, please.
06:48Dancing at a rally in a red hat,
06:50he stole Trump's move,
06:52although Maduro did make some changes.
06:55For example, he decided to also dance
06:57with his lower body.
07:02Trump was probably embarrassed
07:03that Maduro had better moves than him,
07:05especially considering Maduro's moves aren't good.
07:07Being worse than Maduro
07:08is like being a break dancer
07:10who finished behind Ray Gunn at the Olympics.
07:13I'm just kidding.
07:14I don't actually think
07:15the president of the United States
07:17started a war
07:18over a foreign leader's dance moves.
07:20That is absurd.
07:22According to the New York Times,
07:24they're reporting that
07:25the dancing videos really,
07:27uh, you know,
07:28Nicolas Maduro
07:28sort of behaving
07:30like he was calling
07:31the president's bluff,
07:32really acting noxialantly
07:34about these, uh, threats.
07:35And that was really
07:37the last straw for the president.
07:38These dancing videos,
07:40that's according to that reporting,
07:41uh, to where they finally went in
07:43to go get him.
07:45Oh, my God.
07:45We invaded Iraq because of WMDs,
07:48and now we invaded Venezuela
07:49for WDM's wicked dance moves.
07:53So just to be clear,
07:54Trump bombed a country
07:55because he was annoyed
07:56by a foreign leader's dance moves.
07:58Normally, if I'm annoyed
07:59by someone's dancing,
08:01I just moved to another subway car.
08:04I'm sorry, Showtime dancers.
08:05I'm just trying to get to work
08:07and finish the wordle in peace.
08:08Now, let's see.
08:09What is today's wordle anyway?
08:11Ow!
08:13And by the way,
08:14if you think my use
08:15of the word kidnap is harsh,
08:17I'm not the only one
08:18who thinks it's
08:19an accurate description.
08:20Trump did say
08:21that the United States
08:22is working with Venezuela's
08:23vice president,
08:24Delce Rodriguez,
08:25who is in that acting role now.
08:27But she has pushed back
08:29and has called
08:30for Maduro's immediate release.
08:32So if you see that pushback
08:33from Rodriguez
08:35and ultimately...
08:36Well, I don't think
08:37it was pushback.
08:37I think that...
08:38She called it...
08:39So, you know,
08:41you hear a different person
08:42than I hear.
08:43Really?
08:43So you high-scoped one up?
08:44You're tough-talk, yeah.
08:45Oh, you did speak.
08:46They've been very good.
08:47Because she called it
08:48kidnapping of Maduro.
08:50It's all right.
08:50It's not a bad term.
08:51Yeah, no...
08:54Yeah, it is.
08:55I mean, it might be
08:56an accurate term,
08:56but it's still a bad term.
08:58As a rule,
08:59if something is literally
09:00the name of a crime,
09:01it's a bad term.
09:02You never hear anyone
09:04use the term
09:04kidnapping positively.
09:06If you ever ask a couple
09:07how they met,
09:07you're not psyched
09:08if the answer is,
09:09let's just say someone
09:10did some kidnapping.
09:14Of course,
09:15the real reason
09:15for this illegal act of war
09:17remains a mystery.
09:18Even the most astute observers
09:21remain perplexed
09:22as to what could have
09:23possibly motivated this attack,
09:24given that the Trump administration
09:25has played its cards
09:26so close to the vest.
09:28The reality is,
09:28we may simply never know
09:30why the Trump administration
09:32decided to wage war
09:33on Venezuela.
09:34Venezuela sits on
09:35the largest supply
09:36of oil reserves
09:37in the world.
09:38When I left,
09:39Venezuela was ready
09:41to collapse.
09:42We would have taken it over.
09:43We would have gotten
09:43all that oil.
09:44Venezuela,
09:45for the American
09:47oil companies,
09:48will be a field day.
09:50I think there's
09:50a very good chance
09:52that if something happens
09:53down in Venezuela,
09:54that we could really see
09:56oil prices go down even more.
09:58What we're not going
09:59to allow is for
10:00the oil industry
10:01in Venezuela
10:01to be controlled
10:02by adversaries
10:03of the United States.
10:04It means the oil
10:05that was taken from us
10:06is returned.
10:07Right now,
10:08what we want to do
10:08is fix up the oil.
10:10You've spoken
10:10with the oil companies
10:11and now you're going
10:12into Venezuela.
10:13I have.
10:13Which ones?
10:14Have you received
10:14enough amendments?
10:15All of them, basically.
10:16Any amendments
10:16from the oil companies?
10:17They want to go in so badly.
10:19We're going to have
10:20the big oil companies go in.
10:21We're going to have
10:22presence in Venezuela
10:23as it pertains to oil.
10:25We'll be selling
10:26large amounts of oil
10:27to other countries.
10:28The oil companies
10:29are going to go in.
10:30They're going to spend money.
10:31We're going to take back the oil.
10:33We're in the oil business.
10:34Damn it.
10:34I just wish there were clues.
10:37It's really just amazing
10:39how Trump just undercuts
10:40everyone around him
10:41and confesses the truth.
10:42He's got all his little minions
10:43on TV saying this is really
10:44about the drug trade
10:46or human rights.
10:46And then Trump immediately
10:48throws them under the bus
10:49by saying the word oil
10:50over and over again
10:52like the uncle
10:53no one listens to
10:53on Family Feud.
10:54Top five answers
10:55on the board.
10:56Name something
10:57you put on a hot dog.
10:58Pickles, pickles.
10:59Oh, it's got to be mustard.
11:00Oil.
11:02Whoa, wait, it's ketchup.
11:03Oil, oil.
11:04The answer is oil.
11:05Why is no one listening to me?
11:07Is it because
11:07I got the last one wrong?
11:08The category was
11:09words that rhyme with cluck
11:10and I said
11:11now.
11:14This is usually
11:15the point in A Closer Look
11:16where I would set up
11:17a long video montage
11:18of Trump contradicting himself
11:19by insisting
11:20during his various campaigns
11:22that he was against
11:23foreign wars
11:24and regime change.
11:25But I made a New Year's resolution
11:26and that resolution
11:28was to never change, baby.
11:29Roll the hypocrisy package.
11:31We're going to stop
11:32the reckless
11:33and costly policy
11:34of regime change overseas.
11:37We will abandon
11:38the policy
11:38of reckless regime change
11:40favored by my opponent.
11:42Our policy
11:43of never ending war,
11:46regime change,
11:47and nation building
11:48is being replaced
11:49by the clear-eyed pursuit
11:51of American interests.
11:53We believe
11:54that the job
11:55of the United States military
11:56is not to wage
11:57endless regime change wars
12:00around the globe.
12:01We're going to end
12:01these endless wars.
12:03Our current strategy
12:04of nation building
12:05and regime change
12:07is a proven,
12:08absolute failure.
12:10I still can't actually believe
12:11anyone thought Trump
12:13was telling the truth
12:14about being anti-war.
12:15You really thought
12:15Donald Trump
12:16the most thin-skinned,
12:18impulsive man on the planet
12:19would suddenly discover
12:20the concept of restraint
12:21when she gained control
12:22of the world's
12:23most powerful military.
12:25Giving Donald Trump
12:25control of the U.S. military
12:26is like giving the cast
12:28of Real Housewives
12:29an open bar
12:30and a one-free slap coupon.
12:33There's going to be
12:33a lot of fighting,
12:34a lot of crying,
12:35and a lot of really bad dancing.
12:36And if you did fall
12:38for Trump's BS
12:39about ending regime change wars
12:41and nation building,
12:42I'm sorry to say
12:43I got some bad news for you.
12:44Don't ask me
12:45who's in charge
12:46because I'll give you
12:46an answer
12:47and it'll be very controversial.
12:48What does that mean?
12:49That means we're in charge.
12:51We are going to run the country.
12:52What's the group you mentioned
12:54that would run Venezuela?
12:55Well, it's largely going to be
12:56for a period of time
12:58the people that are
12:59standing right behind me.
13:00We're going to be running it.
13:02First of all,
13:02I'm almost certain
13:03Trump has no idea
13:04who's standing behind them.
13:06He was probably caught off guard
13:07by that question.
13:08And after he said
13:09the people behind me
13:10he was thinking,
13:10please be a Venezuelan expert,
13:12please be a Venezuelan.
13:13Oh, it's Marco Rubio.
13:16Also, poor Rubio thought
13:18there would maybe be
13:19more than one guy behind him.
13:33Trump always seems to be
13:34in the dark
13:35about who's around him
13:36at any given moment.
13:37He's always asking
13:38where people are.
13:39In fact, I'd like to ask Caroline.
13:41Where's Caroline?
13:43I'd like to ask Caroline
13:44a question.
13:45Where is she?
13:47Did she?
13:48Uh-oh.
13:49Where's Susie?
13:52Susie, come on, Susie.
13:54Bryson DeChambeau
13:55is up here someplace.
13:59What happened to Bryson?
14:01Where is he?
14:03Bryson.
14:05Oh.
14:07Bryson.
14:10Where are you, Bryson?
14:11You're in charge of Venezuela?
14:14Somebody tell Caroline
14:15to find Bryson.
14:16We don't know
14:16where Caroline is.
14:18What about Susie?
14:19We don't know
14:19where anyone is.
14:22Marco, you in charge?
14:27Ananias Trump betrayed
14:29his supposed
14:29American first principles.
14:31He's also surrounded himself
14:32with the same old neocons
14:34from the Iraq war days.
14:35This is a good thing.
14:37This is not interventionism.
14:39This is making America safer.
14:41This is a good thing,
14:43not a bad thing.
14:44This is a good thing,
14:45not a bad thing.
14:46It's just like
14:46that time I told my Meemaw
14:48when that big city salesman
14:50came around
14:51selling musical instruments.
14:52He's not a con man, Meemaw.
14:55He's starting a band.
14:58I'm going to learn
14:59to play the cornet
15:00and become a big star.
15:02You're stuck serving
15:03sarsaparilla
15:04to one-eyed horse thieves
15:05at the town saloon,
15:07you old crone.
15:11Did Lindsey not hear
15:12how loud Trump was talking?
15:13Why didn't he show up
15:14just shouting?
15:17So Lindsey Graham
15:18is very insistent
15:19that this example
15:20of regime change
15:21is a good thing,
15:22and I'm sure he's never
15:23been wrong about that before.
15:25I am glad Saddam Hussein's
15:27out of power.
15:28I'm glad he's dead.
15:29Even though there were
15:30no WMD,
15:31even though there were
15:32no links between Saddam
15:33and al-Qaeda or 9-11,
15:35you still think
15:36it was a good idea
15:37to go to war?
15:37Absolutely.
15:38I am glad that
15:40the Saddam Hussein regime
15:41is over.
15:42You were right, Meemaw,
15:43they put me in a montage!
15:47Also, side note,
15:48how is it possible
15:48that 17 years ago
15:49Lindsey Graham
15:50looked like a little boy,
15:51and now he looks
15:51like a little boy
15:52played by an old man
15:53in a school play?
15:55Is that actually gray hair,
15:56or is that a wig
15:57from a baby senator costume?
16:00No one wants this.
16:02Polls have consistently shown
16:03that most Americans
16:04oppose any military intervention
16:06in Venezuela,
16:07let alone regime change
16:08and nation building,
16:09and yet the Trump team
16:10isn't stopping there.
16:11They're threatening
16:12to go after a long list
16:14of other countries next.
16:16After the U.S. operation
16:16in Venezuela,
16:17the wife of Trump official
16:18Stephen Miller
16:19posted to social media
16:20an image of Greenland
16:22with an American flag
16:23overlaid in the word
16:24soon.
16:25By the way,
16:26you have to do something
16:26with Mexico.
16:27Mexico has to get their
16:29act together.
16:30The Cuban government
16:30is a huge problem.
16:32I think they're
16:32in a lot of trouble, yes.
16:33Colombia is very sick,
16:35too, run by a sick man
16:37who likes making cocaine
16:38and selling it
16:39to the United States,
16:40and he's not going
16:41to be doing it very long,
16:42let me tell you.
16:42So there will be
16:43an operation by the U.S.
16:44It sounds good to me.
16:46What do you mean
16:47it sounds good to you?
16:49You're the president.
16:51You're talking about
16:51bombing another country
16:52like a stoner
16:53whose roommate just asked
16:54if they should order
16:54extra pancakes
16:55with their mushu pork.
16:57Because, like,
16:58maybe we could even
16:59roll joints in that.
17:02Yeah, it sounds good to me.
17:05Trump told Americans
17:06regime change
17:07and nation-building
17:07was over.
17:08Now he's claiming
17:09America will run
17:10a country of 20 million people
17:12that's roughly 2,000 miles away.
17:14In one breath,
17:15he says he wants
17:15to stop the flow of drugs.
17:17In another,
17:18he pardons a convicted
17:19drug trafficker.
17:20There's no consistency.
17:21It's almost like
17:22his main goal is to
17:23around with the United States.
17:25This has been
17:26A Closer Look.
17:31We'll be right back
17:32with Kristen Stewart, everybody.
17:39For more Obsessed Closer Looks,
17:41be sure to subscribe
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17:51Our first guest tonight
17:53is an Academy Award-nominated actor
17:54you know from films
17:55such as Spencer,
17:56Still Alice,
17:57and Love Lies Bleeding.
17:58Her new movie,
17:59which is also her directorial debut,
18:01The Chronology of Water,
18:02will be in theaters
18:03on Friday, January 9th.
18:05Please welcome back to the show
18:06my friend Kristen Stewart, everybody.
18:24Welcome back!
18:25My first guest of 2026.
18:27What a start to the year.
18:28Wow, look at you.
18:29You're so lucky.
18:30I am so lucky.
18:31How was your New Year's?
18:33Are you a New Year's Eve person?
18:36I would identify
18:37as a New Year's Eve person.
18:39This year I was like,
18:41I was lucky enough
18:42to be working so hard
18:44peddling my new movie.
18:46Yeah.
18:46You're out there.
18:47You look,
18:47if you make a labor of love,
18:49you want to get out
18:49and tell people about it.
18:50So yeah.
18:51Yes.
18:51And so then I had to go inside
18:52and stare at a wall
18:53for a week.
18:54Okay.
18:55Oh, to like,
18:55give yourself a break.
18:56Yeah.
18:57Did you make it till midnight?
18:58I did.
18:59I had,
19:00I don't know,
19:00it was like,
19:01it was like half perfect
19:02because all the right people
19:03were around
19:04and it was chill,
19:05but like I had this like
19:05fluffy tree with like
19:06two baubles on it.
19:07Didn't get around
19:08to decorating it.
19:09It smelled really nice.
19:11Now, can I say something?
19:12I think a tree with two ornaments
19:13is worse than one
19:14with no ornaments.
19:15Yeah.
19:16Like, because two,
19:17you wonder like,
19:18what happened?
19:19You slutty little tree.
19:21You slutty little tree.
19:23You're barely even trying, dear.
19:25You were asking for it, tree.
19:28That is not where my head went,
19:29but I like that that.
19:30I know.
19:30I've been reading
19:31a lot of feminist literature.
19:32I like,
19:33I like two ornaments.
19:34Now everybody,
19:34now I'll know
19:35that when a tree
19:35has two ornaments,
19:37that's when it's being a slut.
19:41Did you,
19:42with not a very boozy
19:44New Year's Eve,
19:45or was it?
19:46Because we drank,
19:47because we drank together.
19:48Well, we drank together.
19:49So now this is a photo
19:49of us drinking together.
19:50This is a really nice moment
19:52where you,
19:54We are happy drunks.
19:55We're very happy drunks.
19:56We had a great time.
19:57This is,
19:57you gave me a lesbian makeover
19:58and did a great job.
20:00I love how you stuck to it as well.
20:02I'm really impressed.
20:03Oh, I mean.
20:05A little tuna.
20:11I want to take back
20:12what I said
20:12about how excited I were
20:13you were my first guest.
20:14Yeah.
20:16It's a huge compliment.
20:17Everyone wants to be.
20:18Thank you very much.
20:19Thank you very much.
20:20Did you,
20:21have you had,
20:21did you ever have
20:22a really boozy New Year's Eve?
20:24Like, did you ever have one?
20:25I mean,
20:25I certainly had plenty
20:26where I woke up on,
20:27you know,
20:27January 1st
20:28and I was like,
20:28oh dear God.
20:29No.
20:30No, I've,
20:31I've never,
20:32No, that's good.
20:33I've never really tied one
20:34on over the new,
20:34are you kidding me?
20:36Like, this year
20:38I gotta tell you though,
20:38like, when it comes
20:40to resolutions,
20:40I never,
20:41I'm like super concerned.
20:42I never sit down
20:42and go like,
20:43now is the time.
20:43Now is the time.
20:44Now is the time.
20:46Really?
20:46To take care of yourself.
20:47Oh, I see.
20:48So your resolution
20:49is just like,
20:49like taking care of yourself
20:50both mentally and physically.
20:52Absolutely.
20:53Yeah.
20:53Yeah.
20:53We have stuff to do,
20:55you know,
20:55we gotta be with each other,
20:56present.
20:58There's,
20:58it's nice to like,
20:59you know,
20:59go through periods of release,
21:01but right now
21:01I kind of want to like absorb.
21:03And you're five days in,
21:04have you violated it yet?
21:05Are you still?
21:06No,
21:06but there's like 60 opportunities.
21:08You know what I mean?
21:08You walk through an airport,
21:09you're like,
21:10oh,
21:10oh,
21:11yeah.
21:11I'm like.
21:12Airports?
21:13That's where you're sitting?
21:14You can't,
21:14you can't fight the urge
21:16off at an airport?
21:18There's people everywhere.
21:20There's free alcohol everywhere.
21:21Are you kidding me?
21:22Oh, yeah.
21:23Like,
21:24cut this.
21:25What's that?
21:25What?
21:26What was that?
21:27I'm a director now.
21:29Scene's over.
21:29Did you just cut,
21:31did you just cut
21:32one of your own answers?
21:33No,
21:33I was like,
21:34I was talking to your producers,
21:35actually.
21:35I said,
21:35please cut this.
21:37Yeah.
21:38You want to cut
21:40everything after you said,
21:41I still dress like a lesbian.
21:43Yeah.
21:43Yeah.
21:45I think I really landed that joke.
21:46I think it's a nice cutting point.
21:48Go to commercial,
21:48laugh track.
21:49Here we go.
21:50You are.
21:51This is amazing
21:51because you did direct
21:53your first film
21:54and obviously you've been in films
21:56for basically your whole life.
21:57Did you,
21:58did you love it right away?
22:00Being a director?
22:01Yes.
22:02Yes.
22:02And you knew you would,
22:03I feel like.
22:04I've been really like leading up
22:06to this forever.
22:07I've wanted to do this
22:08since I was nine,
22:09but that would just be silly.
22:10Yeah.
22:10A little nine-year-old director
22:11running around telling people
22:12what to do.
22:12No producer wanted to be like,
22:13I think we gave our money
22:14to the wrong person.
22:15What a bunch of cowards.
22:17But this is,
22:19you obviously had a plan
22:20going into it
22:21and this is a film
22:22based on a book
22:23that you loved as well.
22:25Did you,
22:25when you were reading this book,
22:27The Chronology of Water
22:28for the first time,
22:28did you see it as a movie
22:30in your head
22:30or was that something
22:32that took a little bit longer?
22:34I would say,
22:35honestly,
22:3640 pages in,
22:37I was having these like
22:38striking image-filled
22:39experiences
22:40that felt so physical
22:42and also like really personal
22:44because it's such a
22:45choose-your-own-adventure text.
22:47It's an amalgamation
22:49of experiences
22:50that I think maybe
22:51every individual
22:52would choose different ones
22:53to latch onto
22:54and I thought
22:55if they were so
22:57immediately full
22:58that there had to have been
22:59something that connected them
23:00that was about me
23:01and not necessarily this woman
23:02and then you find
23:04the sort of concentric circles
23:05that we all have
23:06and then you realize
23:07this book is about all of us
23:08and about excavating
23:10identity and voice
23:11and being somebody
23:12who could like reach in
23:13and value
23:14your own perspective
23:15which takes
23:16sometimes
23:17if you're a lesbian
23:20no, if you're like
23:21somebody who's like
23:22you know,
23:23just told to
23:24take up less space
23:26than the people
23:26who are predominantly
23:27allowed to do so
23:28hard to do
23:29and this book
23:30is just like
23:31screaming at you
23:32to be
23:34somebody embodied
23:35and fulfilled
23:35and loud
23:36and you know
23:37yeah, alive
23:38and so I was just like
23:39well that's a movie
23:40but it's also really
23:42like not an obvious one
23:43because it's just
23:43all over the place
23:44and super transient
23:45and non-linear
23:46and therefore
23:46it feels like
23:47being an actual person
23:48instead of like
23:49I could never do
23:51I could never direct
23:52a movie that was like
23:53easy to describe
23:55like
23:55that's what movies
23:56can do
23:56it's like
23:57do something bizarre
23:58do something that feels
23:58like genuinely internal
24:00is kind of the opportunity
24:01you know
24:01and again
24:02as somebody who like
24:02grew up loving movies
24:03and I still love movies
24:04like I think
24:05you fall in that trap
24:06where certain movies start
24:07and you
24:07just through the
24:08pattern of movies
24:09you know where it's gonna go
24:11and you know
24:11where it's gonna end
24:11and so it's really exciting
24:13I would assume
24:14both as a filmmaker
24:15and as an audience member
24:16to be like
24:16oh I don't know where
24:17I don't know what this is yet
24:18and it's that I think
24:19is also a lot more
24:20like being a human being
24:21than just being
24:22you know
24:22somebody who is being
24:23served something
24:24you've had before
24:25totally
24:25yeah I mean like
24:26I like movies that are
24:27slug lineable
24:29but this one is
24:31I don't know
24:31even the title
24:32like the chronology of water
24:33no one's like
24:34oh I bet I know
24:34what that is
24:35yeah
24:37it's real
24:38from top on down
24:39even now people are like
24:41but actually what are you
24:42talking about
24:43well we're gonna talk
24:44about it more
24:45stick around
24:45we're gonna be right back
24:46with Kristen after this
25:00in the house
25:04alone in my room
25:06my arms ache
25:08my sister is gone
25:12my mother is
25:15gone
25:18my father designs houses
25:20in the room next to my
25:21smoking
25:40welcome back everybody
25:41we're here with Kristen Stewart
25:43that was a clip from
25:44the chronology of water
25:46and
25:47you know reveal a little bit
25:48about what we were talking
25:49about during the clip
25:49because you know
25:50usually when a
25:51performer is on the show
25:52the clip
25:53they're in the clip
25:54and it's a really
25:55awkward moment
25:56because like
25:56often I'm just sitting
25:57with someone
25:57and I'm like
25:58watching them act
26:00yeah
26:00so that was nice
26:01for me
26:02oh really
26:03yeah because I was like
26:03watching with the director
26:05which I just felt like
26:06you know what I mean
26:06like it was less needy
26:07right right right
26:09yeah
26:09usually I'm like
26:12okay okay
26:13and this time I was like
26:14that is good
26:17we should put that
26:18in a movie theater
26:18this is a
26:20well look
26:20it's a heavy subject matter
26:23but it's also
26:23a beautiful film
26:25and I'm wondering
26:26I would assume
26:26that would be the same way
26:28you would describe the book
26:29right
26:29I hadn't read
26:30I haven't read the book
26:31but I would imagine
26:32it's beautifully written
26:32for something that is very dark
26:35there are high highs
26:36and low lows
26:37yeah
26:37yeah it's like
26:39I think there are a lot
26:40of tough movies this year
26:41that I've loved
26:42and this one has been
26:43categorized
26:44it's kind of like
26:44a Rorschach test too
26:45because they're
26:46is that how you say it
26:47yeah
26:47like some people are like
26:48oh god I just like
26:49couldn't get through that one
26:50I'm like why
26:52and then some people are like
26:53god it felt so good
26:54when she was okay at times
26:55and like had releases
26:56and she really
26:57they're like a series of
26:59sort of like false victories
27:00and then she just like
27:02slams life
27:02because by the end
27:03you realize the only reason
27:04we're here is because
27:05she wrote herself into being
27:06and so everything
27:08is her responsibility
27:09and it's like
27:09completely subjective
27:10so it's not like
27:11I'm telling you like
27:12what happened
27:12it's more like
27:13the fact that she was able
27:14to express herself
27:15is what it's about
27:16and that feels joyous
27:18you obviously
27:20having acted in films
27:21now you're directing
27:22other actors
27:22did you find
27:25that you were an amalgamation
27:26of all your favorite
27:27directors over the years
27:27or were you very unique
27:29to yourself
27:31I was myself
27:32that's great
27:33do you feel like you
27:35were you ever like
27:36man I would love
27:37to be directed by
27:38myself
27:39yeah
27:41actually yeah
27:43I would love that
27:46I think I had to
27:47kind of put on
27:49a straitjacket
27:49when I went to work
27:50because I was always
27:52it's like
27:52my favorite directors
27:53set you on a path
27:54and give you a bit
27:55of freedom
27:56but then are so
27:56emotionally connected
27:57at all times
27:58you never feel alone
27:59but kind of being told
28:00how to say something
28:01or what to do
28:01is like
28:02I don't know
28:03just not the way
28:04I function
28:06purely
28:08and on this one
28:09I was just like
28:09get out of everyone's way
28:11just let them have
28:12like let them have
28:13their own experience
28:13because I put this together
28:15over eight years
28:16and so when we got there
28:16I was like
28:19okay
28:20so yeah
28:20no I think
28:21if I hadn't been doing
28:22everything I've done
28:23to get here
28:24then I wouldn't have
28:25known how to like
28:26I don't know
28:27to like not piss
28:28in my own pool
28:28you know what I mean
28:29like leave it alone
28:31don't trample the snow
28:32don't blow away
28:33all the butterflies
28:33like you gotta
28:35really protect
28:35that environment
28:36I mean the very
28:37the way you're talking
28:37right now
28:38I wish I was getting
28:39directed by you
28:39I mean just
28:41everything about this
28:42I'm like let me out there
28:43Kristen I can do it
28:44oh my god really
28:45you're gonna be
28:45the ace up my sleeve
28:46in my next movie
28:46I would really like that
28:48you're the next Jim Belushi
28:49I would love
28:49Jim Belushi by the way
28:50fantastic in the movie
28:51Imogen's great in the movie
28:52I mean you've got
28:53Imogen is a revolution
28:53she you did a fantastic job
28:55with your cast
28:56and you can tell by watching it
28:58that you are very
28:59very good at this
29:00and I hope it's not
29:01your last one of these
29:02because it was
29:03really special to watch
29:04thanks so much
29:04for being here pal
29:05thank you so much
29:06happy new year
29:06happy new year
29:07this is third
29:08everybody
29:08the chronology of water
29:09will be in theaters
29:10this Friday
29:10January 9th
29:11stick around
29:12we'll be right back
29:12we'll be right back
29:13we'll be right back
29:32our next guest is a Golden
29:33Globe nominated actor
29:34you know best from his
29:35work on shows such as
29:36Narcos and Dope Thief
29:38in films like Civil War
29:39and The Gray Man
29:40he's currently starring
29:41in The Secret Agent
29:42which is in theaters now
29:43let's take a look
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30:26Please welcome to the show Vagnamora, everybody!
30:46Welcome! I'm so happy to have you, Vagnar!
30:48I've been a fan for a long time!
30:49Brother, thanks for having me. I'm a big fan.
30:52You also made a real effort to get here.
30:54You took a red eye from L.A.
30:55You were at the Critics' Choice Awards last night.
30:57Yes, yes.
30:58And Secret Agent won Best Foreign Film. Congratulations.
31:02Thank you very much. Thank you.
31:04You were also nominated as an actor.
31:09Didn't win.
31:09No, I didn't. No, no.
31:11So I just don't want you to get too high on you.
31:13I was nominated for two different categories.
31:16Were you nominated for Secret Agent and Dope Thief?
31:18And Dope Thief, and I lost both.
31:19Gotcha. So you won one.
31:22Yeah.
31:23Lost two.
31:24Exactly. That's not bad.
31:25Well, it's not bad at all, because guess what?
31:27I was nominated, just lost the one.
31:30So I would give anything for your life, brother.
31:33I will say, you know, one of the delightful things,
31:36this was one of those movies I heard a great deal about.
31:40And then when I'm watching it, I'm like, wait, I know this guy.
31:43And, you know, one of the things is, I guess,
31:45the first time American audiences probably got to see you the most
31:48was in Narcos.
31:49Oh, yeah.
31:50And that, you look better than this guy.
31:56Oh, yeah, man.
31:57I think, I like to think that I'm looking better now.
31:59Yeah.
32:00That was, I was 40 pounds heavier back then.
32:02Yeah.
32:03Well, and for the part, it was for the role.
32:04It was for the role.
32:05Yes.
32:06I was eating delicious things.
32:07You know, I was eating whatever I wanted,
32:09but it was absolutely for the role.
32:11The one thing you took away,
32:13takeaway was like Pablo Escobar had a really nice diet.
32:16Exactly.
32:17And then Civil War, which is a movie I absolutely loved last year.
32:20God, I'm looking better.
32:21Yeah, you look really good in that one, too.
32:22So you're in the right trajectory.
32:23You just keep getting handsomer.
32:24And that doesn't happen to a lot of people in Hollywood.
32:26So congratulations.
32:27No, but I really, I really, I really, I really,
32:31those are two things that are, I mean, I really love Narcos.
32:34I think they're both, Narcos and Civil War are both very political.
32:39Yes, of course.
32:40Things that I feel very particularly attached to.
32:46I think that Narcos was a series about the jerk trade in South America,
32:49which is a thing that affects my country, Brazil.
32:52And Civil War was a film that I, I was very shocked
32:57when I read that script, how timely that was.
33:00How scary.
33:02Well, anytime a movie is timely in that way,
33:05when you know how they have to start,
33:08you know, you work on these movies,
33:09they don't start a week before they come out, you know?
33:11So you have to, like, years, you know, in the past,
33:14sort of, like, time it to just be perfectly of the moment when it came out.
33:19And that was a film.
33:20And certainly, strangely, Secret Agent feels the same way, right?
33:22Like, this is a movie that takes place in the late 70s in Brazil,
33:25and yet it does really resonate as a modern film as well.
33:29Certainly, that must have been something you knew was going to make it.
33:31Yeah, it's interesting, because Secret Agent was a film that, of course,
33:33Brazil was under a very heavy dictatorship from 64 to 85,
33:38so the film is set up and the film takes place in 77.
33:44But the urge to make this film was what was going on in Brazil from 2018 to 2022,
33:50when Brazil was under...
33:51I never know how to put it.
33:53Like, we had a fascist president.
33:58Yeah, I think that's okay.
34:00We might actually say that every time.
34:01You kind of know what I'm talking about.
34:02Yeah.
34:03Yeah.
34:05And whoever was vocal against him suffered lots of consequences.
34:11So the director, Kleber Mendoza, and myself, we got together,
34:14and this is a result of our shared perplexity
34:18of what was going on in Brazil in the 21st century
34:22when this guy was bringing back the values of the dictatorship.
34:26It's also, I will say, you know,
34:28I think it's really important to stress for anybody who hasn't seen it,
34:31it's also, like, a very fun movie.
34:33It's very funny at times.
34:35Yeah, yeah.
34:35It makes you want to visit Brazil.
34:37Yeah, have you been to Brazil, by the way?
34:38I've never been to Brazil, and even watching it under a dictatorship,
34:41I'm like, that looks so much more fun than anything I'm doing.
34:43Yeah, it's fun.
34:45And it's interesting because I was at Narcos again
34:47when I was in Colombia doing Narcos.
34:49I was asking my friends that, because Bogota, back in the 80s,
34:52was probably the most dangerous city in the world,
34:55and I was asking my friends, like,
34:56what was it to live in Colombia back then?
34:59He was like, dude, we were going out, going to bars and having fun.
35:02We were living our lives.
35:03Yeah.
35:03So that's it.
35:04Yeah, Brazil was fun back in the 70s, too.
35:06But you were, I mean, obviously you were a very young person in Brazil
35:10during this dictatorship,
35:11and so did it unearth memories for you that you made it?
35:15Absolutely.
35:16But you know what happens, because the dictatorship ended in 85,
35:19but it didn't really end in 85.
35:21The echoes of the dictatorship are still there, you know, somehow.
35:25Brazil is a very complex country.
35:28It's like everything that you see about Brazil,
35:30the diversity, the culture,
35:33and it probably is a country that has the most modern constitution in the world,
35:38but it's also a country that is the last country in the Western world
35:45to abolish slavery, for example.
35:46You know, like colonialism and imperialism and violence and coup d'etat
35:52and things like the dictatorship that they had
35:54are still present in the daily life of the country.
35:59So I have memories, of course.
36:01I have memories like that shirt that I'm wearing in the film.
36:07It's kind of how my father used to wear his shirt,
36:09like with the buttons up.
36:10Yeah, yeah.
36:11Like showing his chest.
36:13Yeah, my children have requested their father never do that.
36:16Never do that, yeah.
36:17It's becoming trendy again.
36:19You'll be surprised.
36:20I think for you, it's trendy, yeah.
36:22I remember that kind of thing,
36:23but also that the feeling of being in a country
36:27that is full of contradictions is still very alive in Brazil.
36:32Also a Golden Globe nominated.
36:34Congratulations.
36:35It's very exciting.
36:35So you're going right back out.
36:37Our friend Nikki Glaser is hosting.
36:40She's the best in the business,
36:41but it also must be really special
36:43to make this really personal film about where you're from
36:45and to have this reception in America,
36:48not just critically, but, you know,
36:50I would assume like award nominations,
36:52look, they're important for everybody.
36:53They mean a lot to everybody,
36:54but it must just be such a cool thing
36:56that people are rewarding a movie like this.
36:59Yes, it's very important for us for,
37:01I think it's important for Brazilians, Seth,
37:04because back in that time from 18 to 22
37:08when Brazil was under that fascist moment.
37:14You know, in the fascist manual,
37:16the first thing that they do is attack.
37:18What they attack is universities,
37:21journalists, and artists.
37:22And they were very effective in transforming,
37:26in trying to make,
37:27to transform artists in Brazil
37:29into the enemies of the people
37:31with that kind of, you know,
37:34populist conversation.
37:35So to see Brazilians,
37:37since last year,
37:38when a film called I'm Still Here,
37:39which is a beautiful film,
37:41a Brazilian film, won an Oscar,
37:43to see Brazilians rooting for that film
37:45and seeing those artists
37:47as like these people represent us,
37:50I think it's just beautiful
37:51and I'm just happy to,
37:53for Brazilians and for our culture.
37:55You were the first Brazilian
37:56to win Best Actor at the Cannes Film Festival.
37:59Congratulations on that.
38:00But you were not.
38:02An incredible concert.
38:03You were not there.
38:04I was not there.
38:04And I was heartbroken to hear you were not there.
38:06That was a crazy story
38:07because I was shooting a film in England,
38:10London.
38:11Very close.
38:12I could like just take a, yeah.
38:13You could have made it.
38:14I could have made it.
38:15And that was on a Saturday.
38:17Saturday was my day off.
38:19So I was like completely free.
38:20I could have gone to Cannes.
38:22But they asked me to shoot
38:24not with the main unit,
38:25not with the second unit,
38:27but with the third unit,
38:28with basically people
38:29that didn't even know
38:29what kind of film we were doing.
38:31Gotcha.
38:31These are just basically a unit
38:33that's going to shoot things
38:34that you need for the film.
38:35Like a close-up of your hand.
38:36Things like that.
38:37And I couldn't tell them,
38:38hey, I think I have to go to Cannes
38:40because I think that I might win
38:43an award there.
38:44You know, so I was too embarrassed
38:45to say that.
38:46So I was like, yeah, sure, let's do it.
38:47So I was doing a scene
38:49where I was basically...
38:51No, before, so my friend called me
38:53and he was like,
38:54I think he was shooting the ceremony
38:57and Clyburn Mendoza, the director,
38:58was on stage and he was like,
39:00he's on stage and he was like,
39:01we want something.
39:02He was like, no, you won.
39:03He's there to pick up your award.
39:05And I was like, oh my God,
39:06I won Best Actor in Cannes.
39:07And they called me and he was like,
39:08Wagner, could you come in?
39:09Yes.
39:10So I didn't know anyone.
39:11I couldn't share it with anyone.
39:13I couldn't, hey guys,
39:13I just won Best Actor in Cannes.
39:15And the scene that I did
39:17was, this is the scene
39:18that I was doing.
39:19I put like a plastic bag
39:21on my hand
39:22and I was picking up
39:23the f*** of a dog.
39:26So I was picking up
39:28the dog f*** on my hand
39:29and thinking,
39:30I just won Best Actor in Cannes.
39:32And I couldn't share that
39:34with anyone
39:34because I didn't know anyone.
39:35By the way, if you had,
39:36they would have been like,
39:37no, you didn't.
39:38No, you didn't.
39:39Just pick up the f***.
39:40If you won Best Actor in Cannes,
39:41would you be with us
39:42picking up f*** of a f*** dog?
39:44Exactly.
39:44I don't think so, buddy.
39:46I don't think so, yeah.
39:46But it's true
39:47and it's well-deserved
39:48and it's been so wonderful
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39:49Congrats on the film.
39:50Best of luck.
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