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Homicide Squad: New Orleans - Season 1 - Episode 04: Know Thy Neighbor
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00:12When it comes down to good and evil, right and wrong, I believe we all know what's right
00:32and what's wrong.
00:36He's phased out.
00:37We have to want to sign up to Ms. Fox, you okay?
00:39Okay.
00:45Sir.
00:48He's got, like, this side is all...
00:51We've got bullet holes all up in here.
00:54Oh, Lord.
00:55Like four or five.
00:57And be advised that the subject has multiple gunshot wounds waiting on a ton of death.
01:14We're going to a homicide by shooting in the Lower Ninth Ward, passing through the Bywater area right now.
01:25Got a lot of people out tonight.
01:27I'm familiar with the area.
01:29My family's from the Lower Ninth.
01:31I worked in the Fifth District prior to coming to homicide.
01:35Sunday morning, I was in my good sleep.
01:38I mean, good.
01:40I don't think I was asleep for even two hours.
01:43Oh, no.
01:44I got this call, so...
01:48Caught my last one on a Sunday morning.
01:50At least this was before I got to church.
01:52My husband is a pastor, so I'm the pastor's wife, but I'm Detective Smith, too.
01:59It can be challenging at times, but we wear different hats, you know, and I'm able to put on each
02:05one and do what I have to do at that time.
02:12Do I need a jacket?
02:19When I get on scene, I'm saying to myself, I don't know what I'm going to get when I get
02:24out there.
02:26I don't know who this person is.
02:29Praying that they have identification on them.
02:32Praying that there's video.
02:34All those things are running in my mind.
02:38Call came out as 21, unknown trouble.
02:42Man down in an alleyway.
02:44Upon arrival, officers found this gentleman.
02:49He was bleeding from the back.
02:51EMS arrived.
02:53The back where he was bleeding from, there's multiple gunshot wounds.
02:56And they pronounced him deceased at 135.
03:02The residents across the street said they heard what could have been gunshots at around 9 p.m., but they
03:09didn't hear, they didn't see anything, and nobody called.
03:16Lovely, lovely.
03:17Let me see.
03:20I had a guy that was found shot in an alleyway, and that's all they knew.
03:26And I'm like, oh, Lord.
03:28This is awful.
03:31There was like a bicycle that was turned upside down.
03:35The bike could either be for the victim or for the perpetrator.
03:38Or it also could be for a witness.
03:45Baby, what's up with this weather?
03:47We got to get this body before the rain comes.
03:50Yeah, the time of death.
03:52Yeah, time of death is going to be 1.35 a.m.
03:55Ain't no ID.
03:57My victim is unknown.
03:59He did not have any identification on him.
04:03A citizen who was walking their dog came across the victim lying in the alley and called 911 and kept
04:10going.
04:11At the time that we arrived, no one was there.
04:14No witnesses, no nothing.
04:16No one knows who this guy is.
04:21But saw that he had on slippers.
04:23So I knew he couldn't be too far from a familiar place.
04:29Oh, he got one, two.
04:32He got a bunch.
04:33Right forearm, lower back, right chest, stomach, right side.
04:36It looked like he may have something in his pelvic area.
04:38No, right there.
04:39See where he's bleeding right up here?
04:41Right there.
04:42Yeah.
04:43He's got one on the left.
04:45Two on the left side.
04:47He has multiple gunshot wounds to his back.
04:50So that leads me to believe that he possibly could have been either walking away or running away from someone
04:56when he was shot.
04:58Did he have a gun?
04:59Magazine.
05:00Oh, he did?
05:01Yeah, but it wasn't fully loaded.
05:02It had any bullets?
05:03Yeah.
05:04Mm-hmm.
05:04If he had a gun, he might have took the gun.
05:08We located three rounds, three cases, nine millimeter.
05:12We got one right here, and we got a couple on the street here.
05:17All of them are nine millimeters?
05:19Yeah.
05:19There was no weapon found on scene, but the victim did have a magazine in his pocket, which contained nine
05:27millimeter live rounds, and the casings on the scene were also nine millimeters.
05:33Maybe it's just a coincidence.
05:36I doubt it.
05:37We're going to see him.
05:39We're going to see him.
05:41Can y'all request to do his fingernails for me, please, just in case?
05:45All right.
05:50I was trying to see if they had more cases out here.
05:54He got shot up a bunch of times.
06:05Man.
06:09I was holding the clippant's fingernails just in case you find out later that he had a fight or something.
06:13Yeah, yeah.
06:15So.
06:19We satisfied if we, Allie?
06:22Yep.
06:23They got samples of the blood and everything?
06:26Yeah, I'm good.
06:31It was a very minimal crime scene.
06:33There was very few casings on the scene.
06:38This person had been shot multiple times.
06:50No cameras in the immediate area, but we'll probably try to see if we could find video of him on
06:57that bike.
06:58Somebody actually said they heard shots around 9 p.m., and then nobody discovered his body until after 1 a
07:06.m.
07:07The biggest thing that I do not have leaving this crime scene is the identity of my victim.
07:12I don't know what, you know, anything about him, you know?
07:15It's obviously he had an issue with somebody or somebody had an issue with him.
07:21Because to shoot somebody that many times, you had to be really mad with him.
07:27To shoot somebody nine times.
07:31The key is going to be to find some video that could lead us in the right direction.
07:38I believe truly that I am the voice of that particular victim.
07:44And I'm going to do everything in my power to make sure that I find justice for them.
08:04So what you got so far?
08:05All I have is, um, my victim was possibly in the area of, um, St. Claude and Gorton.
08:13Mm-hmm.
08:14So I want to try to see if I can find my victim on RTCC camera or even the guy
08:19riding that bike.
08:20Okay.
08:21He had on, like, a yellow shirt, like a yellow T-shirt.
08:24Okay.
08:24And some black shoes.
08:27Good morning.
08:28Good morning.
08:29The RTCC cameras have been put into our city at some major intersections,
08:34and even within some neighborhoods.
08:37It helped us to figure out where our victims have gone.
08:41They have really clear video.
08:43Unfortunately, they're not equipped with audio.
08:46We got another murder last night.
08:49Where did it happen to you?
08:50Gorton and St. Claude.
08:52I can't even tell which way the Gorton and Urquhart camera pointing.
08:56I know.
08:56That's the one I'm looking at, too.
08:59There is a real-time crime center camera a block away from where this incident occurred.
09:06My victim was found in this alley.
09:08It was about 1 o'clock when he was found.
09:11So I'm trying to see, um, if I see him walking a little bit before midnight.
09:17Got to see him at some point.
09:24Oh, is that him?
09:26You see something?
09:27Yeah.
09:29That look like him, right here.
09:33He walking with the bike.
09:34We observed somebody in a bright yellow T-shirt walking his bicycle across the street,
09:40and you see him walking with another subject with dark clothing on and these bright white tennis shoes.
09:46He didn't look like he on the bike.
09:49I see somebody else coming from across the street.
09:52There's also two other people that are walking a little bit behind them.
09:58See that?
09:59There's my victim right here.
10:11That look like the victim on that bike.
10:14He got that yellow shirt and, um, um, shorts.
10:18I was able to positively identify my victim.
10:22But you're not able to see faces and make anyone out because it's, like, a block away.
10:324173.
10:344173.
10:34Could you speak to 540 on Channel 5?
10:37Yeah, Riffle.
10:40Mm-hmm.
10:42Detective Riffle, he called me and told me that there was a woman saying that her son had been killed.
10:49All right.
10:50So the lady said, um, a female named killed her son last night.
11:00Police, one.
11:02And that she needed police officers at her address.
11:07Yeah.
11:08Sykes, you can go to talk.
11:13Hey, this, um, Sykes.
11:16Can y'all, um, get our son's information?
11:18We don't even have identity of the victim.
11:20And I don't have a perpetrator.
11:22Yeah.
11:23One of y'all call the police?
11:33What's going on?
11:36I'm going to say, Claude?
11:38Mm-hmm.
11:39What's his name?
11:40Roger.
11:41What do you look like?
11:42You got a picture?
11:44Uh, maybe, like, three of the calls.
11:46Big guy?
11:48Mm-hmm.
11:49A little bit higher than me.
11:50A little bit higher than you?
11:51Okay.
11:52I'm coming over there.
11:52I'll be on our way.
11:57We just identified my victim.
11:59His mama called.
12:00She's saying that the person down the street, that killed her son.
12:05So how does she know that killed her son, and who is we're going to go out and find out.
12:14This is straight down right?
12:16Yeah, right here.
12:16The mother lives literally around the corner from where my victim was killed.
12:22We're going, actually, we're going to the lower nine, and a lot of the people in this area, they've been
12:27here, you know, for a while.
12:29Oh, so everybody pretty much know everybody.
12:35Oh, Tanisha, is that a camera?
12:37Goody, goody.
12:38That's a camera.
12:39Oh, that's hot.
12:40Oh, that is?
12:41If there is video, clear video, that'll help us out a whole lot.
12:48Hey, I'm Detective Smith, and this is Detective Marshall.
12:52I'm sorry for your loss.
12:54I'm sorry for your loss.
13:04Everybody knew Roderick.
13:07He had a good heart, and he loved people.
13:12He was misunderstood more than he was understood.
13:17The mother says that her son was documented by a police schizophrenic.
13:23On the night he was killed, he was involved in a fight with the neighbors down the street.
13:28A girl went to Roderick's mom's house to tell her to come and get her son.
13:34And she said he's out here pointing a gun at people.
13:47Roderick's mother is able to provide me with ring camera video from the night of the shooting.
13:56Even with the information she provides, I still have to try to get as much information as I can.
14:03Oh, yeah, look at that camera.
14:04Yeah.
14:05You see it?
14:05Uh-huh.
14:06And I hope the clarity is clear.
14:09I'm going to knock on doors, talk to people, try to see if we can find some video footage
14:15that can help us out get a better, clearer picture of what happened on that night.
14:19So that's a camera that's pointing downward.
14:21That one's pointing that way.
14:23They have cameras.
14:24That one's, they got one right there.
14:27Hello, how you doing?
14:28Can you hear me?
14:29Hi, this is Detective Marshall, Detective Smith with New Orleans Police Department.
14:33Hello.
14:36This your house right here?
14:38This house don't have cameras on this corner.
14:42Oh, nobody here.
14:44Nobody come home.
14:46He'll come back.
14:46Let's go to the front.
14:47See?
14:48The front?
14:49What?
14:50What happened?
14:50I seen it on the news.
14:51Oh, across the street.
14:52Oh, I thought it was here.
14:53Yeah, by the blue building.
14:55They got a camera on that back one.
14:57Looked like on that green one.
14:57Is that a camera?
14:59I doubt it.
14:59No, there ain't no camera.
15:01No, that's not one.
15:02We whisper thinking.
15:19Homicide investigations are very hard sometimes.
15:25You have to have a desire for this particular type of work.
15:30Because if you don't, it'll eat you alive.
15:39The victim's mother lives literally a couple of houses away from where this happened.
15:46Someone came down to the mother's house and told her what was going on.
15:52It's just, it's crazy.
15:59This was like 9.28 p.m.
16:02Miss Brown.
16:03What?
16:04Come to the door so I can tell you about your story.
16:06So this is at 9.44 where the young lady comes to the house.
16:12Your son.
16:13What's up?
16:15He outside cutting up pulling the door now on people.
16:17I think it may be.
16:19I think it may be.
16:25Mmm.
16:30That was 10 gunshots.
16:339-1-1 call was placed at 1.04 a.m.
16:38And based on the information that I have from the ring camera footage, this incident happened
16:46around roughly between 9.45 and 10 p.m.
16:53This guy was like literally left, shot in an alley for maybe about three hours.
16:59So none of these people called 9-1-1 or reported this incident.
17:07Literally someone shot this guy 9, 10 times.
17:12And then two minutes later, two, three minutes later, you hear this group outside laughing
17:19and talking like it wasn't nothing.
17:28It's disturbing.
17:31Very disturbing.
17:33How can you laugh?
17:35Nothing's funny about that.
17:37It angered me and it was a fuel for me to figure out who they are.
18:12I, uh, my victim's mom called me.
18:15Um, people in the neighborhood has been giving her information.
18:19So she said that the person who killed her son lives in her block.
18:25Literally down the street from her house.
18:28And they're saying that his name is Carrie.
18:30Right.
18:31She said Carrie is a light-skinned black male.
18:34He has a low haircut.
18:34She then calls me back and says that his last name is going to be Shelby.
18:41So I was looking up, like, people named Carrie.
18:47Mm-hmm.
18:47And I came across a Carrie Shelby that reported a vehicle stolen last year at that address.
18:54Wow.
18:55So I have his information of his name, his birth date, and his address.
19:00And I also have a picture of Carrie.
19:02Oh, good.
19:03So she said they told her that he made the statement about her son saying he gonna catch me on
19:10a good date and I'm gonna kill him.
19:12Wow.
19:13So it's kind of an intense situation.
19:16Based off the information that was given to me by the victim's mother, we believe that Carrie Shelby is gonna
19:23be a person of interest in my homicide.
19:26Looking at the footage that we have on the RTCC camera, you can see that they're a black male with
19:33dark clothing and white tennis shoes.
19:36And not the female who knocked on the mother's door.
19:42I'm gonna do some research on him to see if he has any violent history and just go from there.
20:05So I met with the captain earlier.
20:08He wanted an update.
20:10My victim, Roderick Thompson, he was bipolar and schizophrenic.
20:17He was not on medication.
20:19He had been evicted from his residence and he just stayed wherever in the area.
20:26Possibly had an altercation with his neighbors down the street.
20:30I got ring doorbell footage from his mother's residence who lives on the same block with the neighbors.
20:36I also got information yesterday that the person that is possibly responsible for killing the victim, his name is Carrie
20:44Shelby.
20:44And he lives on .
20:46I actually have the phone number.
20:48I'm gonna try to see if I could do a warrant on the phone and see what I could get
20:55from that.
20:55I also did a search warrant to obtain the hard drive and everything for the surveillance video.
21:02Also the phone, cell phones for the occupants of that property and also to do a search for any guns.
21:09If he is the shooter and he lives at that location, is he armed?
21:14You know, is he gonna talk to us?
21:16I'm pretty sure if you present a search warrant, you're gonna get an attitude that they don't wanna talk.
21:19Well, that's fine.
21:21I don't care.
21:21You get the phones and the video footage.
21:23Mm-hmm.
21:24Yep.
21:25You never know.
21:26You might get all that and he come in and talk.
21:28Yeah.
21:28You say, try and claim to the defense.
21:30Well, he could try.
21:30I want him to.
21:31All right.
21:36We received some additional video from the RTCC.
21:40I actually called and say, hey, can y'all upload me additional video footage from Tupelo and St. Claude?
21:48And give it to me from like maybe like 9 to about 11.
21:54I was looking at the video and remember the first videos that we watched?
21:58Remember, I asked them for like additional time and remember the close to like 10, you know, they were kind
22:07of like going back.
22:09So check this out.
22:10So at 10, 12, the dude that I saw with the white tennis shoes, remember the one who, because he
22:16was the last one to leave.
22:18The all black with the white tennis shoes.
22:18Yeah, he was the last one to leave from over here.
22:21I needed to see if we could see any activity going on and sure enough, we got what we was
22:28looking for.
22:28So watch this.
22:30He's going to come back.
22:31He's going back over here.
22:33That definitely looks like black clothing.
22:36Now it looks like black clothing with the white tennis shoes for sure.
22:39I see somebody else coming from across the street.
22:42Oh my God.
22:42Are you serious?
22:43It's him again.
22:44We see this one particular guy keeps coming back to check.
22:48It's two of them.
22:50At this point, we have to identify who these subjects were, who walked towards the location where the victim was
22:57found, and who walked back after the shooting.
23:00Trying to make sure he dead.
23:02But I'm saying, y'all know he dead.
23:04He didn't get up.
23:05Hours has passed, and then finally a good Samaritan observes this victim in an alien context 911.
23:12They keep coming back.
23:14I'm like, why?
23:15Why y'all keep coming back?
23:16He's going to go right over there.
23:18This is crazy.
23:20They should have called the police.
23:22But this is crazy.
23:24It's ridiculous.
23:26It just makes me wonder if Roderick was still alive right after being shot.
23:31Could he possibly have survived if someone had found him immediately?
23:37Instead of just laying there on the ground for a couple of hours before someone found him.
23:45All the stuff right there in front of you is just proving who did it.
23:49And who those other individuals were going back and forth.
23:53That's what we really need, to be able to identify who our suspects could be.
23:58I just need a little bit more.
24:00I just need a little more.
24:28Let me see.
24:30This is a good tip.
24:32A real good tip.
24:35Great morning.
24:37Yeah, good morning.
24:38Good morning.
24:39I got a Crimestopper tip that was very specific.
24:42It says that on April 20th, 2024, Carrie Shelby walked Roderick Thompson from his neighbor's porch
24:49to the bus stop on St. Claude and Gordon Street after an argument in front of Mr. Shelby's residents.
24:56Once they made it to the bus stop, they proceeded in the killing of Mr. Thompson.
25:02So whoever said that, they had to have been there.
25:04Yeah.
25:05Nobody else would know that, right?
25:06Right.
25:07Every day Mr. Shelby gets up and goes to work with no fear of consequences.
25:12We need this man off the street.
25:14They are very dangerous.
25:16That tip also stated that Carrie's girlfriend might have a little bit more information about
25:22what happened on the night of the homicide.
25:24And I have ring footage where I actually can hear the gunshots going off.
25:30Look, you want to listen to this for a quick?
25:32I do.
25:33This is at 9.58 p.m.
25:37Where is that?
25:38See, this is the victim's mama house that we're watching the green camera from.
25:40And they down here with this card.
25:44Oh, wow.
25:48Jeez.
25:49How many times you said?
25:51About 10.
25:51Sheesh.
25:52But I also have RTCC video showing my victim in a small group of people walking.
26:00You know, like, he on his bike and they literally walking him across the street.
26:04And I saw that.
26:05And then the Crimestopper tips say that they walked him.
26:08They walked him.
26:09Yeah.
26:10And the suspect, Carrie Shelby, was supposedly the shooter.
26:13And his girlfriend was out there.
26:16So I'm going to bring, I'm going to get her.
26:18She's going to be the weakest link.
26:19Yeah, it's going to be great.
26:21I completed a search warrant for the property.
26:24And I did a threat assessment to the Special Operations Division.
26:39I'm going to let S.O.D. execute that warrant in the morning.
26:42I see.
26:42In the event that the suspect is there and we have guns and all that type of stuff.
26:47What case is this for?
26:48That's for Gordon Street.
26:50For the homicide.
26:50The one that you sent me, the Crimestopper tip for?
26:52Yeah.
26:53Because we're in homicide, we typically deal with very violent people.
26:56Our Special Operations Division, they are the guys who are the best trained to go in there,
27:02apprehend people in the residence, get them out safely so we can go in and do our search warrant,
27:05get the evidence we need to keep going on with the case.
27:08So you're hitting them warning, like, first thing?
27:09Yeah, probably.
27:10So I think that'll probably be best.
27:11And we could catch him and the girl home, like, if we can do it at 5 in the morning
27:15at this point.
27:16Early morning?
27:17Yes.
27:18We're going to go to the residence in the wee hours of the morning because people are home,
27:22they're sleeping, and it's the element of surprise.
27:51I'm going to text Rob and let him know that we're going to be doing the search warrant.
28:00I'm hoping to find him there.
28:02I want to find his girlfriend there.
28:04I want to find the gun there.
28:06I want to find the video surveillance there so it could show me what was going on at the
28:11time and what possibly happened.
28:14And hopefully we'll be able to close this case out this week.
28:25We're going to move.
28:25Yeah, you're good.
28:30Let me know when you're ready.
28:47Hey, man, come walk down.
28:49Enough stuff, man.
28:51Oh, he coming outside.
28:53Good.
28:54That's him.
28:55Come out this way, my man.
28:56I'm all the way down.
28:57I'm all the way down, man.
28:59That's him.
29:00He in the house.
29:01You all right?
29:03Close enough.
29:04What a female?
29:04Good.
29:05Both of them.
29:23I'm going to take y'all to the office and talk to y'all and then we'll let y'all
29:33know
29:33what's going on in a few minutes.
29:36The female coming out of the house is not the person who went to the house to call the
29:40mom.
29:40This woman is the girlfriend of our suspect, Carrie Shope.
29:44I'm going to need two transport units taking these subjects to headquarters.
29:49That camera up there, that one I know takes like an SD card.
29:54You can see the little slot right there.
29:55Yeah, I see it.
29:56They probably took it out.
29:57We wanted to see if we could possibly get video surveillance at the residence where we
30:02believe the incident started.
30:04I also wanted to get cell phones and weapons and any other thing that would help us in
30:10this investigation.
30:15I didn't get a good clear view of the clothing that the shooter had on.
30:20But however, I know that he had on these bright white tennis shoes.
30:25We collected the shoes plus two phones.
30:29Unfortunately, we didn't find any firearms, so no murder weapon.
30:34We don't have it.
30:36I don't know if we ever will.
30:38But at this point, I'm feeling pretty good since I got the shoes and I got Carrie Ann,
30:43his girlfriend.
30:44I'm going to talk to the girlfriend because she looks like she been waiting for somebody
30:50to come and talk to her.
30:54If she was at that house and outside at the time that this incident happened, she was able
31:01to see everything from that porch.
31:03Hopefully, we get some answers today.
31:14Yeah, Carrie Shelby, we got him in here now, and we had him and his girlfriend.
31:20We did the warrant this morning with SOD.
31:22Who is it?
31:23Who is it?
31:24Her name is .
31:25She was one of my witnesses.
31:28I'm doing an interview with her.
31:32Carrie is the guy who they say is the shooter, his girlfriend.
31:37I wanted to get a picture of the victim so that I could show them his picture.
31:42We're more likely to get more information from the girlfriend than Carrie.
31:47Most of the time, females don't want to be caught in the middle of what their boyfriends
31:52have going on.
31:54All right.
31:55I'm Detective Smith.
31:56This is Detective Marshall.
31:58Yes.
31:58Today is May 7, 2024.
32:00The time is now 9.16 a.m.
32:04I'll be talking to you in reference to an incident that happened about two weeks ago
32:08on Saturday, April the 20th, between 9 and 10.
32:13So, do you know this young man here?
32:16Mm-hmm.
32:17Okay, and who is that?
32:18We call him Fat Boy.
32:20I don't know his name.
32:21Okay.
32:21He was down there by girls.
32:23Yes, he was.
32:23Okay.
32:23Tell me about this, the incident that happened with you.
32:26Well, I know we barbecued in my yard that day.
32:30Mm-hmm.
32:30Then after that, everybody came.
32:33Well, they always had people come home.
32:35And everybody was sitting out.
32:36Everybody was drinking.
32:38Then everybody left.
32:39And that was it.
32:41And then on the herd, they say the next day, something happened to him.
32:45So, in the midst of y'all drinking, what was going on out there with him?
32:50Mm-hmm.
32:51Drinking.
32:51His friends.
32:53Mm-hmm.
32:53Not mine.
32:54Who are you referring to when you say his?
32:55Well, Carrie.
32:57Okay.
32:57Who's Carrie?
32:58She's in here.
32:59That's...
33:00Who's that related to you?
33:01That's just my boyfriend.
33:03Okay.
33:03Oh, your boyfriend?
33:04Yeah.
33:04Okay.
33:06We know that somebody down there was having an altercation with this young man.
33:11Okay.
33:11Did you witness any altercations outside of your house?
33:14No, ma'am.
33:14Of your own?
33:16No, just the men talking, being men.
33:19We are not gonna come to your house.
33:21Right.
33:22With the SWAT team.
33:24Right.
33:24With the big ol' black truck.
33:26We have a purpose behind it.
33:28Yeah.
33:28And we know for a fact that you were out there when this man got into an altercation with somebody
33:35in front of your house.
33:36I promise y'all I'm supposed to.
33:37Okay.
33:38So why do you keep saying you don't know?
33:41You heard something, but you don't know what it is.
33:43I was out there, but it wasn't like they weren't fussing to me.
33:46But it was more than just talk.
33:47But to be honest, I don't know exactly what was said.
33:50That's why I'm being honest with you.
33:52This is my thing.
33:52He did something out there, and that caused a big commotion.
33:55And I'm trying to find out what he did.
33:58Okay.
33:58Now, there you go.
34:00Mm-hmm.
34:00He was out there hurting a gun down there.
34:05A girl went to let his mother know that he was out there playing with a gun.
34:11Mm-hmm.
34:13And from there, that's why I told you.
34:14I'm trying to be honest.
34:15I'm glad you brought it up so I can remember, but I'm glad.
34:18But listen, you have to tell us everything.
34:20But I'm glad you brought it up so I can't remember.
34:23That's what we did for us.
34:24Yeah.
34:25So we need to know a little bit.
34:26Yeah.
34:26We're getting somewhere.
34:28Yeah.
34:28He was at the corner.
34:30And from there, I know everybody just was talking.
34:32And everybody was gone.
34:34No, ma'am.
34:34No, indeed.
34:35No, indeed.
34:36I'm going to tell you like this.
34:38I know that ain't true.
34:39Everybody left?
34:40No.
34:41Nobody.
34:42No.
34:43No, ma'am.
34:44Let me tell you this.
34:45We don't have all these.
34:47We asking you questions?
34:48Mm-hmm.
34:49We no answer, sir.
34:50Right.
34:51What happened?
34:52Less than like two, three minutes.
34:54Right.
34:54You hear nothing but gunshots?
34:56Mm-hmm.
34:58You heard the gunshots?
34:59Something, yes.
35:00And guess what?
35:01If you stand on your porch, you could see straight over there.
35:05I wasn't on my porch.
35:07You went down there.
35:07I didn't know everybody went down there.
35:10Who went down there then?
35:13Carrie went down there.
35:15OK.
35:16This is huge.
35:18The video that we have shows individuals.
35:21The video is a block away.
35:22Now we have the identity of a person.
35:37When you saw Carrie, he was already across the street by the blue building.
35:42Right.
35:43When Carrie went down there, what Carrie had on that thing?
35:46Oh, could have been blue and black or black and white.
35:48And you remember what kind of shoes he had on?
35:52White.
35:53White?
35:53You know, white shoes?
35:55OK.
35:56Those Nikes were very important because that person who had those Nikes on is the only one
36:02that's engaging with the victim.
36:03And then when he leaves, he was back and forth with those same shoes.
36:08So he walked down to the corner where the big boy was at.
36:12And who else went down there with him?
36:15Me.
36:16I think I walked down there.
36:17You walked down there.
36:18I think I walked down there.
36:19OK.
36:19And when you walked down there, what happened?
36:23I just heard shots.
36:24And where the shots came?
36:25See, I'm not going to lie.
36:26Where the shots came from?
36:27From one of the gun or something.
36:29OK.
36:29And who was shooting?
36:30It had to be, it had to be Carrie.
36:34OK.
36:35So Carrie was shooting?
36:35Because that was yes, ma'am.
36:37OK.
36:38So it was in Carrie's hand?
36:40Yes.
36:41OK.
36:41The gun was in Carrie's hand?
36:42Mm-hmm.
36:43Why did he shoot him?
36:44No, I don't know that.
36:46She gave us what we came for.
36:49She placed herself there at the scene as well as Carrie.
36:52Even though I may be screaming and dancing on the inside, you know, I'm empathetic with her
36:57because I know this took a lot of courage, kind of weighed really heavy on her.
37:00I don't want to be in trouble for something that I didn't do.
37:05Yes, ma'am.
37:05We understand.
37:07I've never been in trouble.
37:09Stuff is crazy.
37:11So crazy.
37:12Sorry.
37:12Give me a minute.
37:14Would I be able to go home?
37:16Yeah.
37:17In a little bit.
37:17We're going to break you in.
37:18In a few minutes.
37:24So Mo, she gave it up.
37:27Ah, perfect.
37:27Yeah, so I got to get her back home.
37:31So she said that Carrie...
37:32Yeah, Carrie shot.
37:34Wow.
37:35You talked to Carrie yet?
37:36I'm about to go talk to Carrie.
37:37Oh, I want to see this.
37:39Good job.
37:40I want Carrie to put himself there.
37:44All right.
37:46So what happened that night?
37:49That night, everybody was drinking.
37:51There's a whole lot of us out there.
37:52Bad boy come around on the bike, and he wanted to drink.
37:57I gave him a drink.
37:58He kept me doing exercise.
38:00We and him do the little push-up game.
38:02You know, we and him do 10, you do 20.
38:05All right, come on.
38:06That's what we used to do.
38:07Meet good people.
38:09We know that he went down to the bus stop, and there were people going down there to the bus
38:15stop with him.
38:15Who was going to the bus stop with him?
38:18I had walked with him to the bus stop.
38:20So it was just you?
38:21Yeah, I was the only one going towards the bus stop with him.
38:23We have video, right?
38:25And we watched the entire thing.
38:28While you was holding a firearm in your hand.
38:36I was holding a fire on my hand.
38:38What happened with y'all at this bus stop?
38:42I was holding a fire on.
38:50I can recall me having a fire on my hand while I was at the bus stop.
38:56But he told me that I had a fire on.
38:59And he was over the drink, and then I'm trying to put it together like you said.
39:04But now I feel like trying to make it look like that I did.
39:13At that point, I'm like, okay, dude, I'm not going to play this game with you
39:16because I see this is where it's going to go.
39:18You're going to be like, I don't know what you're talking about.
39:21You know what? Not me.
39:22He put himself there.
39:24So at that point, I was like, hey, nothing left to do but book him.
39:29Give me a few minutes.
39:36Yeah, Kat.
39:36Yeah, we're about to do our response because the girlfriend put him there on the scene,
39:40put him there with a gun in his hand, and she said he was the only one standing out there.
39:45Nobody else was in front of that building but him.
39:48You're welcome, Kat. Bye.
39:52Based on the things that we have learned throughout this investigation,
39:56Roderick's gun that he was waving was never recovered.
40:00He had a magazine in his pocket with the same caliber bullets
40:04as the caliber cases that we've recovered from the scene.
40:07I truly believe that he was shot with his own gun.
40:11Now, where the gun is, we may never know.
40:15Are you going to arrest right now, sir?
40:17I'm going to arrest.
40:18Yes, sir.
40:25Hello?
40:26Hi, Ms. Rhodes.
40:28Uh-huh.
40:28Hey, this is Detective Smith.
40:30Uh-huh.
40:31I just was calling to tell you that I did have an arrest warrant for Carrie,
40:34and he's been taken over to lockup for your son's murder.
40:38Thank you so much, baby.
40:41I still have some stuff to do on my end to wrap things up,
40:44but just wanted to let you know that he is on his way to lockup
40:47and that he wasn't coming back around there.
40:50Thank you so much, Mama.
40:52Let me know every time we go to court,
40:53because I'm going to have to crawl up them steps.
40:55I'm going to crawl up them bitches.
40:57Yes, ma'am.
40:59It's really a good feeling when you can say,
41:02hey, I've made an arrest in this case.
41:04But the greatest victory is to hear that guilty as charged.
41:07I'm praying that on behalf of his family and on Roderick,
41:12that we do get justice.
41:33I'm praying that on behalf of his family and on Roderick,
41:42there's good and bad everywhere you go,
41:45but the good definitely outweighs the bad here in our city.
41:48The neighborhood really did come together
41:50to celebrate the life of Roderick Thompson.
41:56The second line in the city of New Orleans is celebration,
42:00because you're celebrating the legacy that they left behind.
42:02So a second line is a joyous occasion,
42:05and it's a way for family, friends, and community
42:08to come together to celebrate the life of their loved one
42:11who's no longer here with us.
42:14Everybody knew Roderick.
42:15Not too many people that I came across that came across my brother
42:19had anything really negative to say about him.
42:24He wanted connection with people,
42:26looking for his place in life.
42:28He was a good guy and a bad situation.
42:35For Roderick and the type of person he was,
42:37it was always playing fun.
42:39He was a very people's person,
42:42so that was a big old shock that somebody did that to my brother.
42:49There's a lot of people out here, man,
42:51that's dealing with psychological issues
42:53and nowhere to get help.
42:56Everybody spoke for Roderick,
42:59and I'm really appreciative of that.
43:02I'm really appreciative of that.
43:05I'm really appreciative of that.
43:06I'm really appreciative of that.
43:08I'm really appreciative of that.
43:10I'm really appreciative of that.
43:10I'm really appreciative of that.
43:11I'm really appreciative of that.
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