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00:00:02tonight on date live you took a innocent mom away from her babies and this means war i'm ready to
00:00:09get this one heck of a fight something's done with eric cory says she went into the master bedroom
00:00:15he's cold he doesn't have a pulse eric died in his sleep he seemed like a healthy guy
00:00:20strong as an ox she was a mess just shattered cory wrote a book for kids on coping with grief
00:00:26we think here she is trying to help other families i thought wow that's wonderful
00:00:31the results of the toxicology come back and it's stunning eric has fentanyl in his body more than
00:00:39five times a lethal amount people have skeletons in their closet eric and cory both have secrets
00:00:46you were keeping from each other did you feel that she loved you yeah yeah i think she did we
00:00:53see a
00:00:53whole other side that we didn't know about sex greed lust secrets money there's so many layers to it
00:01:03that's what blows my mind a young widow wrote the book on grief but was she grieving or scheming
00:01:11i'm lester holt and this is dateline
00:01:22here's andrea canning with book of lies
00:01:31there are times in life when we all deal with grief
00:01:35but some losses cut deeper than others
00:01:40when a 39 year old father died suddenly
00:01:43his widow set out to help their three young sons make sense of it
00:01:49she published a book called are you with me
00:01:52about a father who becomes a guardian angel
00:01:55talking about loss with kids can be a tricky subject
00:01:58then she went on a local tv show to share it with the world
00:02:01my kids and i kind of wrote this book on the different emotions and
00:02:07grieving processes that we've experienced last year
00:02:10before that awful loss it seemed eric and cory richens led a charmed life
00:02:15a beautiful couple they both looked very successful
00:02:19they looked very happy together
00:02:20raising their boys in this idyllic place surrounded by mountains just outside of park city utah
00:02:27but things aren't always as they seem
00:02:30you're a tv lifestyle host who's now in the middle of a murder investigation
00:02:35it's crazy this is the most surreal thing that has happened in my career
00:02:40how did this happen to a normal mom having a really good life
00:02:44how did it get from there to here
00:02:51it all began on march 4th 2022
00:02:54with a pre-dawn call to 9-1-1
00:02:58okay tell me exactly what happened
00:02:59i don't i don't know
00:03:01i was sleeping with my kids
00:03:04cory richens told the dispatcher she'd woken up to find her husband eric not breathing
00:03:09he's just cold
00:03:11who's cold
00:03:12my husband
00:03:14first responders arrived at the house on willow court 10 minutes later
00:03:19what's your first name
00:03:20it's what happened today
00:03:21i don't know
00:03:24you were just fine
00:03:25you were fine
00:03:27cory told deputies she had already tried cpr
00:03:30paramedics continued those life-saving efforts
00:03:33she's had two epi's in her hand
00:03:37reporter shelby lofton covered the story for nbc affiliate ksl
00:03:42they're doing what they can but the efforts are failing and so the bedroom is loud and chaotic
00:03:48there's a lot of people in there but it doesn't look like this is a man whose life can be
00:03:54saved
00:03:55father and local businessman eric richens was pronounced dead at the scene
00:04:00deputies asked cory about their night
00:04:02what time did you see him
00:04:05when he was alert
00:04:06we had a drink together at nine to celebrate something at work tomorrow
00:04:12okay
00:04:14what does cory say happened that night
00:04:16cory says that the night eric died
00:04:18they decided to have a moscow mule
00:04:21and a lemon drum
00:04:22she told the deputies after the two drinks
00:04:25she and eric turned in for the night
00:04:27we went to bed
00:04:29i went to bed
00:04:33nate eaton followed the story for east idaho news
00:04:36one of their sons was having a rough night having nightmares so she went to lie down with him
00:04:41she stayed in his bed likely fell asleep for some time
00:04:45i just woke up
00:04:47i know when i sleep with my kids i wake up and i go back in my own bed
00:04:51i just crawl over on his side
00:04:56and he was laying in bed
00:05:02and then she realized something wasn't right he wasn't snoring normally he snored she jumped out of bed she turned
00:05:09on the light he doesn't have a pulse
00:05:11cory called her mom lisa darden with the horrible news
00:05:15mom
00:05:17mom
00:05:18who's in my house
00:05:20who's in my house
00:05:23when lisa got there
00:05:24she wondered if eric's recent allergy shots had something to do with his death
00:05:48soon they got word to cory's older brother dj
00:05:52how do you get the news that eric has died
00:05:55my mom called me that morning to let me know and then i jumped in the car and headed down
00:06:02there immediately
00:06:03that's such you know just shocking news when someone is that age so young to just die in the middle
00:06:11of the night
00:06:21when eric's sister katie arrived cory told her what she had told deputies
00:06:25and they just turned over to cuddle him and his body was just so cold
00:06:31as eric's family and friends struggled with his loss
00:06:34they could not have known the saga of eric and cory richens would take years to untangle
00:06:41the betrayal here is remarkable
00:06:44and unique
00:06:45something was about to happen that would rock your family to its core
00:06:50it did
00:06:50i can't even describe it i mean who whoever sees that coming
00:06:54it's one of those stories that has
00:06:56sex greed
00:06:58lust secrets
00:06:59right money
00:07:01the first thing i thought about
00:07:04when i heard this story
00:07:06was this is going to be on dateline i know it is
00:07:10my husband's active
00:07:12we didn't just die in his sleep
00:07:13this is insane
00:07:34by morning the paramedics and deputies had packed up and left the richens house
00:07:39in small town camas utah the sad news traveled fast
00:07:43at the mirror lake diner the breakfast rush was in full swing when owner gabe morin first heard about his
00:07:49friend
00:07:49who called you with the news
00:07:52my wife
00:07:53that's a shocker
00:07:54when
00:07:55you know
00:07:56you just don't ever expect to get news like that
00:07:59he seemed like a healthy guy right young
00:08:01yeah
00:08:01oh yeah
00:08:01vibrant
00:08:02strong as an ox
00:08:03it sounded like natural causes
00:08:05and very unexpected
00:08:08eric always seemed the picture of good health
00:08:11gabe says he loved outdoor sports
00:08:13especially snowmobiling
00:08:15we're snowmobiling at 11,000 feet
00:08:17he's not having any problems
00:08:19he's not short of breath
00:08:20he's
00:08:20he's in very strong good shape
00:08:22you saw eric
00:08:25the day he died
00:08:26yeah that morning he came in
00:08:28and had his chicken fried steak
00:08:30we chatted for a bit
00:08:31everything was normal
00:08:33how did he look
00:08:34physically
00:08:35to you when he was here
00:08:36yeah healthy normal
00:08:38less than 24 hours later
00:08:39he's gone
00:08:40yeah
00:08:42cory's brother dj arrived from wyoming
00:08:44to console his sister
00:08:46i mean cory was
00:08:48i'll say a puddle in a corner
00:08:49it's like every time he turned around
00:08:50she's just bawling her eyes out
00:08:52you know there was a few of us there
00:08:54that were kind of
00:08:54keeping the boys preoccupied
00:08:56or
00:08:56yeah
00:08:57and your heart is obviously breaking
00:08:59for cory and for your
00:09:01your three nephews
00:09:03yes
00:09:03yeah
00:09:04i mean and he was a good friend of mine
00:09:05you know
00:09:05so as soon as i got the news
00:09:07i broke down
00:09:10eric and his two sisters
00:09:11were raised in a tight-knit family
00:09:13he was particularly close
00:09:15with his father gene
00:09:15who taught him the value
00:09:17of hard work
00:09:17at the family's cattle ranch
00:09:20during college
00:09:21eric took on some masonry work
00:09:22it was on one of those jobs
00:09:24that he met cory
00:09:25at the home depot
00:09:26she worked there part-time
00:09:28between college classes
00:09:30she was a darling
00:09:31sociable
00:09:32just nice
00:09:33cute
00:09:34bubbly
00:09:35very smart i thought
00:09:36linda king worked alongside cory
00:09:39at the registers
00:09:39i was always
00:09:41like the mother hen
00:09:42and you know this
00:09:43you know how guys can get
00:09:44were the guys interested in cory
00:09:46then
00:09:47almost every one of them were
00:09:48yeah
00:09:49sometimes she'd get a little scared
00:09:51you know so i'd have to walk over there
00:09:53and tell him come on over to my register
00:09:56you know
00:09:56yeah
00:09:57and deal with mama over here
00:09:58you know so they would
00:09:59you know
00:09:59you're like her protector
00:10:00i was
00:10:01linda did approve of one customer
00:10:03who took an interest in cory
00:10:05why was eric your favorite customer
00:10:07he just had the best personality
00:10:09he had the laugh
00:10:13i'm gonna go
00:10:15oh
00:10:15the laugh
00:10:16yeah
00:10:18cory liked him too
00:10:20she goes
00:10:21i like him
00:10:22you know
00:10:22and
00:10:23it didn't take very long
00:10:25and they were going out on a date
00:10:26this is like out of a rom-com
00:10:28you know
00:10:28meeting at home depot
00:10:29oh yeah
00:10:30she's working there
00:10:31he comes in
00:10:32yes
00:10:33and they were on the fast track
00:10:34within a few months
00:10:36cory moved in with eric
00:10:37and soon she was expecting a baby boy
00:10:40she was excited to be a mom
00:10:42was that always something she wanted to do
00:10:44over the moon
00:10:44i didn't know that so much
00:10:47until she had her first son
00:10:48and
00:10:48that
00:10:50that was her life calling
00:10:51was to be a mom
00:10:52they eventually married
00:10:54and eric started his own masonry business
00:10:56with his best friend
00:10:57they did rock
00:10:59on these beautiful
00:11:01beautiful homes here in park city
00:11:03i mean gorgeous
00:11:0420,000 square foot homes
00:11:05yeah i've seen some of eric's work
00:11:07yes
00:11:08it's beautiful
00:11:08yes
00:11:09i mean their work is incredible
00:11:11but eric had such a drive
00:11:13and a direction that
00:11:14i think really propelled that company
00:11:16and gave eric financial independence
00:11:19to buy that spacious five-bedroom home
00:11:21a good thing
00:11:23because soon the couple would welcome
00:11:25two more sons
00:11:26life was good for
00:11:28cory and eric and the boys
00:11:29yes
00:11:31yeah it was
00:11:32it really was
00:11:33according to cory
00:11:34it was a much more stable life
00:11:36than she knew as a child
00:11:38cory did not have the best of childhoods
00:11:41her father served time in prison
00:11:43and she says that
00:11:44by the time she was a teenager
00:11:46she had lived
00:11:46to two dozen places
00:11:48that they had moved all over the place
00:11:50for us to stay in one spot
00:11:51for three four months
00:11:52was saying a lot
00:11:54we would move quite a bit
00:11:55it was probably different
00:11:56than most kids grow up
00:11:58dj says his sister was driven
00:12:00as a teenager
00:12:01cory worked for her aunt's cleaning business
00:12:03helping care for some of park city's most lavish homes
00:12:06now with her new life
00:12:08she wasn't interested in cleaning houses
00:12:10cory wanted to flip them
00:12:12and get in on the booming real estate market
00:12:15cory's good friend greg hall
00:12:17who owns a marketing company
00:12:18helped her get the word out
00:12:19her house flipping
00:12:21is it like hgtv
00:12:23yeah kind of
00:12:24she would find something
00:12:25that she felt
00:12:26that she could
00:12:26buy at the right price
00:12:28and fix it up
00:12:28and flip it
00:12:29and uh
00:12:30and make a profit
00:12:33by 2022
00:12:34the couple was bringing in
00:12:35significant money
00:12:36and between three kids
00:12:38and two careers
00:12:39their lives were constantly in motion
00:12:41busy
00:12:42busy busy
00:12:43soccer
00:12:44i mean soccer was
00:12:45eric's passion
00:12:46but it was also the boys
00:12:47and they gave back to the community a lot
00:12:49i mean
00:12:50they were busy
00:12:51and cory was working on the biggest deal of her career
00:12:54the purchase of a 20,000 square foot home
00:12:56she called the midway mansion
00:12:58this estate
00:12:59was
00:13:00quite something
00:13:02was an unfinished house
00:13:04in the middle of this beautiful valley
00:13:06surrounded by
00:13:07our gorgeous snow-capped mountains
00:13:09that's a massive deal
00:13:11this wasn't just something that was pennies
00:13:14this was
00:13:14millions of dollars to buy
00:13:17and then
00:13:18in the middle of all that
00:13:19cory got covid
00:13:20and eric suddenly fell ill
00:13:23and he gets really really sick
00:13:25on valentine's day
00:13:27to the point that he has to lie down
00:13:29and take a nap
00:13:30in the middle of the day
00:13:31that is not eric
00:13:33eric does not stop
00:13:34he's not going to
00:13:35lay down for 90 minutes
00:13:37on a weekday
00:13:38and have a nap
00:13:38because he doesn't feel well
00:13:40eric told a friend
00:13:41he thought it might have been
00:13:42an allergic reaction
00:13:43to a sandwich he ate
00:13:45after using an epi pen
00:13:46he felt better
00:13:47but perhaps it was a warning sign
00:13:49of things to come
00:13:50because two weeks after that
00:13:52eric was dead
00:13:53a deputy at the scene
00:13:55told cory there would be an autopsy
00:13:56because he was
00:13:58in good health
00:13:58and at his age
00:13:59and everything like that
00:14:00okay
00:14:00our medical examiner
00:14:02is going to come
00:14:02and do their investigation
00:14:05real quick
00:14:06and then also our detective
00:14:08just to make sure
00:14:09that everything's documented
00:14:11you know correctly
00:14:14as eric's body
00:14:15went off to the medical
00:14:16examiner's office
00:14:17his family made
00:14:19funeral arrangements
00:14:20and cory was about
00:14:21to discover
00:14:22that her husband
00:14:23had been keeping a secret
00:14:24i mean when you're told
00:14:26your husband just died
00:14:27this is no longer
00:14:28your house
00:14:29there's probably
00:14:30going to be an altercation
00:14:31and there was
00:14:47eric's three young boys
00:14:48were now fatherless
00:14:50overnight
00:14:50they'd lost their protector
00:14:52their best friend
00:14:53your heart must have broken
00:14:55for those boys
00:14:56oh absolutely
00:14:57yeah i mean
00:14:58to lose it
00:14:58i lost my dad
00:14:59when i was 20
00:15:00for these kids
00:15:01to lose their dad
00:15:02and you know
00:15:03what seven years old
00:15:05ten years old
00:15:06i mean that's
00:15:07that's crazy
00:15:07that's terrible
00:15:08how are the boys
00:15:09handling it
00:15:10i don't think for
00:15:11them at their age
00:15:12that it had actually
00:15:13clicked in their mind
00:15:14what had just happened
00:15:16cory's friend
00:15:17greg hall
00:15:17says she lost
00:15:18the love of her life
00:15:19how was she doing
00:15:22she was a mess
00:15:23she was just shattered
00:15:24it completely
00:15:25destroyed her
00:15:26but as cory grieved
00:15:28in those early days
00:15:29she also started
00:15:30getting eric's affairs
00:15:31in order
00:15:32there was a safe
00:15:33in the garage
00:15:34that she was trying
00:15:35to get in
00:15:35and call the locksmith
00:15:37to open up the safe
00:15:38and eric's sister
00:15:39arrived and said
00:15:40hold on
00:15:41you can't go in the safe
00:15:42and then the sister
00:15:43amy dropped a bombshell
00:15:45she told cory
00:15:47that eric's other sister
00:15:48katie
00:15:48was in charge
00:15:49of his estate
00:15:50and that the house
00:15:51didn't even belong
00:15:52to cory
00:15:52and that situation
00:15:54did not end well
00:15:55yeah
00:15:56amy said that cory
00:15:57did end up
00:15:57punching her
00:15:58and the police
00:15:58were called
00:15:59to the home
00:15:59i mean when you're
00:16:00told
00:16:01you know your husband
00:16:02just died
00:16:03and you're told
00:16:04this is no longer
00:16:05your house
00:16:06there's probably
00:16:06gonna be an altercation
00:16:07and there was
00:16:09there's a little bit
00:16:10of pushing
00:16:11um i got between them
00:16:14and then once
00:16:15oh you were there
00:16:15i was there
00:16:17once i was between
00:16:18them
00:16:19obviously they're both
00:16:20throwing over the top
00:16:21of me
00:16:22how mad was cory
00:16:23when she
00:16:25realized
00:16:25what was really
00:16:27happening
00:16:27the police took her
00:16:28upstairs into eric's
00:16:29office in the
00:16:30in the garage area
00:16:32and
00:16:33they actually
00:16:34put
00:16:36uh katie's attorney
00:16:37on the phone
00:16:38with cory
00:16:39so she could
00:16:40pretty much
00:16:41explain to cory
00:16:41that you know
00:16:42nothing belongs
00:16:43to cory
00:16:43at this point
00:16:45so i think
00:16:46you know
00:16:46she was obviously
00:16:47pretty upset
00:16:47with that
00:16:48a year and a half
00:16:49before he died
00:16:50while the couple
00:16:51was going through
00:16:51a rough patch
00:16:52eric had secretly
00:16:54gone to an estate
00:16:55planner to set up
00:16:55a trust
00:16:56he put his sister
00:16:57katie in charge
00:16:59the trust states
00:17:00that in the event
00:17:01of eric's death
00:17:01cory would be
00:17:02provided for
00:17:03but everything else
00:17:04all other assets
00:17:05would go to their sons
00:17:07those are big steps
00:17:08that he took
00:17:09creating this trust
00:17:11putting it in
00:17:12his sister's name
00:17:13right he took big steps
00:17:15before he died
00:17:15and then telling
00:17:16his family
00:17:17that listen
00:17:18you're going to be
00:17:19the owner
00:17:19of the trust
00:17:20but don't tell her
00:17:22if cory was surprised
00:17:24perhaps she shouldn't
00:17:25have been
00:17:26the richens family
00:17:27had always been
00:17:28protective of eric's
00:17:29assets
00:17:29did cory ever
00:17:31confide in you
00:17:32about some of the
00:17:33things with eric's
00:17:35family
00:17:36the only thing
00:17:37that she ever
00:17:37did tell me
00:17:38was that
00:17:38the prenup
00:17:39was signed
00:17:40five minutes
00:17:41before she walked
00:17:42down the aisle
00:17:43she was in her
00:17:44wedding dress
00:17:44ready to go
00:17:45through the doors
00:17:46down the aisle
00:17:46and then it was
00:17:47presented to her
00:17:48that's a tough
00:17:48thing on your
00:17:49wedding day
00:17:49yeah i think
00:17:50that would be
00:17:51kind of you
00:17:51wouldn't expect
00:17:52that
00:17:52it was a pretty
00:17:53much an ultimatum
00:17:54to her that
00:17:55hey they're signing
00:17:56or we're not
00:17:56getting married
00:17:56and well here
00:17:57she is holding
00:17:58the baby at
00:17:58that point
00:17:59obviously she's
00:18:00gonna sign it
00:18:01now with her
00:18:02world falling apart
00:18:04cory called eric's
00:18:05best friend to
00:18:06vent her friend
00:18:07recorded the call
00:18:08they're taking my
00:18:10house right this
00:18:11is my house
00:18:12i thought the
00:18:13house was gonna
00:18:14stay with you
00:18:14no matter what
00:18:15no the house goes
00:18:18to the trust's
00:18:19name which
00:18:20goes to katie
00:18:21she has the
00:18:22right to sell
00:18:22it she has
00:18:23the right to
00:18:24remodel it
00:18:24she has the
00:18:25right to do
00:18:25whatever i
00:18:26have no rights
00:18:27to the house
00:18:27so to speak
00:18:29of the trust
00:18:30but eric would
00:18:31always say that
00:18:32you are his
00:18:32wife you're the
00:18:34mother of his
00:18:34children and he
00:18:34loves you right
00:18:35and so he would
00:18:36do anything for
00:18:37you and those
00:18:38three boys i know
00:18:39if eric was still
00:18:40here today he
00:18:41would say no
00:18:42i need cory to
00:18:44to be protected
00:18:47but unfortunately
00:18:48he didn't set her
00:18:48up that way
00:18:49i just want my
00:18:50house and my
00:18:51stuff in my
00:18:52house that me
00:18:52and eric bought
00:18:53i just want my
00:18:54house they can
00:18:55have all the
00:18:56money they can
00:18:57have all the
00:18:58money
00:18:58a week after
00:19:00he died with
00:19:01family tensions
00:19:01running high
00:19:02eric's loved
00:19:03ones gathered
00:19:04for his funeral
00:19:05you were so
00:19:06close with eric
00:19:07that you were
00:19:08a pallbearer
00:19:10at his funeral
00:19:10it was a very
00:19:12sad service
00:19:13eric's friend
00:19:14gabe sensed
00:19:15something else
00:19:16there was a
00:19:17weird tension
00:19:18about the
00:19:19funeral and i
00:19:20just thought it
00:19:21was odd
00:19:22whatever was
00:19:23happening between
00:19:24cory and her
00:19:24in-laws seemed to
00:19:25be on display
00:19:26cory's name wasn't
00:19:28even mentioned
00:19:28at the service
00:19:29there was a lot
00:19:30of talk about
00:19:31eric and the
00:19:32boys and eric
00:19:33and the boys
00:19:33and nothing
00:19:34about cory
00:19:36and still there
00:19:37was that lingering
00:19:38question on
00:19:39everyone's mind
00:19:39how did eric die
00:19:42paramedics at the
00:19:42scene wondered if
00:19:43his sudden death
00:19:44could have been the
00:19:44result of a burst
00:19:45artery an aneurysm
00:19:48i wonder if he had
00:19:49an aneurysm or
00:19:49something with all
00:19:50the blood
00:19:52pretty young
00:19:53yeah
00:19:55when the emmy
00:19:56completed the
00:19:56autopsy she noted
00:19:58there were small
00:19:58nodules on eric's
00:19:59lungs
00:20:00he did have
00:20:01covid when he
00:20:02died they did
00:20:03find signs of
00:20:04covid in his
00:20:05system but they
00:20:06said that did not
00:20:07contribute to his
00:20:08death at all
00:20:09so what had killed
00:20:10eric it would take a
00:20:12few more weeks for
00:20:13the toxicology results
00:20:14to come back
00:20:15finally there would
00:20:16be some real
00:20:17answers but not
00:20:18the ones anyone
00:20:19expected
00:20:20it's like whoa
00:20:21whoa what's going
00:20:22on here you know
00:20:23that's the last
00:20:24thing you'd expect
00:20:25with eric
00:20:40something's wrong
00:20:41with eric the
00:20:42police
00:20:42i don't know
00:20:45what's happening
00:20:46in the days that
00:20:47followed eric
00:20:48richen's death
00:20:49nearly everyone
00:20:50who knew him
00:20:51asked the same
00:20:52question how
00:20:53could a seemingly
00:20:54healthy 39 year
00:20:55old suddenly die
00:20:56in his sleep
00:20:58there were
00:20:59multiple stories
00:21:01around town
00:21:02about how eric
00:21:03might have died
00:21:04and it all started
00:21:05actually from
00:21:06the night that
00:21:07emts responded
00:21:08on body camera
00:21:10footage we hear
00:21:11some of them
00:21:11wondering how
00:21:12did this healthy
00:21:13young dad die
00:21:14he didn't just
00:21:16die in his
00:21:17sleep this is
00:21:18insane
00:21:19any um
00:21:20mental health
00:21:22conditions
00:21:24no okay
00:21:26how about any
00:21:27um any
00:21:28suicidal
00:21:29history
00:21:30no
00:21:31never
00:21:31no
00:21:32a month later
00:21:34there was an
00:21:34answer
00:21:35former homicide
00:21:36detective wayne
00:21:37nichols reviewed
00:21:38the case for
00:21:38dateline
00:21:39the results of
00:21:40the toxicology
00:21:41come back
00:21:42weeks later
00:21:43yes
00:21:44and it's
00:21:45stunning
00:21:45to a lot
00:21:46of people
00:21:47in eric's
00:21:47world
00:21:47it absolutely
00:21:49is
00:21:50it's pretty
00:21:50evident
00:21:51that eric
00:21:52has fentanyl
00:21:53uh in his
00:21:54body
00:21:55which is an
00:21:57absolute
00:21:57game changer
00:21:59for this
00:21:59investigation
00:22:01fentanyl
00:22:02is 50 times
00:22:03stronger than
00:22:03heroin
00:22:04it's a
00:22:05painkiller
00:22:05that some
00:22:06abuse
00:22:06because of
00:22:07its intense
00:22:07high
00:22:08any uh
00:22:09history of
00:22:10prescription
00:22:10abuse
00:22:13no
00:22:13i mean
00:22:14no
00:22:14when he was
00:22:15in high
00:22:15school and
00:22:16stuff
00:22:16yeah
00:22:16okay
00:22:19at the time
00:22:20of eric's
00:22:20death
00:22:21paramedics
00:22:21suspected he
00:22:22may have
00:22:22taken drugs
00:22:23so they
00:22:23administered
00:22:24narcan
00:22:25but it
00:22:25had no
00:22:25effect
00:22:26no pulse
00:22:27or anything
00:22:27no
00:22:28no he
00:22:29was cold
00:22:29what made
00:22:31it even
00:22:31harder to
00:22:32fathom was
00:22:32the amount
00:22:33of fentanyl
00:22:34found in
00:22:34eric's
00:22:34system
00:22:36he had
00:22:37a lot
00:22:38significant
00:22:39amount of
00:22:40fentanyl
00:22:40in his
00:22:41body
00:22:42more than
00:22:43five times
00:22:44what is
00:22:44considered a
00:22:45lethal amount
00:22:46of fentanyl
00:22:47and the emmy
00:22:48confirmed the
00:22:49fentanyl was
00:22:49street made
00:22:50not prescription
00:22:51grade
00:22:52eric is a
00:22:53dad he's a
00:22:54businessman
00:22:55he wasn't
00:22:56really known
00:22:57as some
00:22:57type of
00:22:58drug user
00:22:59in the
00:22:59community
00:23:00what does
00:23:01law enforcement
00:23:01do with
00:23:02that when
00:23:03that's sort
00:23:04of the bio
00:23:04you've been
00:23:05given about
00:23:05eric richens
00:23:06people have
00:23:07skeletons in
00:23:08their closet
00:23:09sometimes people
00:23:10are hiding
00:23:11the pain
00:23:12that they're
00:23:12really in
00:23:13and they cope
00:23:14with that
00:23:14with drugs
00:23:15or alcohol
00:23:15eric's
00:23:16friend gabe
00:23:17couldn't
00:23:17believe it
00:23:18i heard
00:23:19it was a
00:23:19brain aneurysm
00:23:20and then
00:23:20we're hearing
00:23:21fentanyl
00:23:22and overdose
00:23:22and it's
00:23:23like whoa
00:23:23what's going
00:23:24on here
00:23:24and uh
00:23:25you know
00:23:26that's the
00:23:27last thing
00:23:27you'd expect
00:23:29uh
00:23:29with eric
00:23:31what did
00:23:31you think
00:23:32when you
00:23:32heard fentanyl
00:23:33was the
00:23:34cause of
00:23:35death
00:23:35accidental
00:23:36um i mean
00:23:38we all knew
00:23:38eric kind
00:23:38of liked
00:23:40the party
00:23:41you know
00:23:41he was the
00:23:42life of the
00:23:42party
00:23:42wherever he
00:23:43went
00:23:43but you
00:23:44know
00:23:44so i
00:23:45would think
00:23:46accidental
00:23:46100%
00:23:48does he
00:23:49have any
00:23:49history of
00:23:50illicit drug
00:23:51use or
00:23:51anything
00:23:52in the
00:23:52past
00:23:53here
00:23:53no
00:23:53okay
00:23:54cory told
00:23:55deputies
00:23:56they had
00:23:56both taken
00:23:57marijuana
00:23:57edibles
00:23:58in the
00:23:58past
00:23:59weed gummies
00:24:00sometimes
00:24:01don't
00:24:01go
00:24:03gummies
00:24:03before
00:24:04it goes
00:24:04to bed
00:24:06it didn't
00:24:08seem like
00:24:09you did
00:24:09though
00:24:11it's like
00:24:12a gummy
00:24:12as in like a
00:24:13THC gummy
00:24:14okay
00:24:15is there
00:24:16any possibility
00:24:18of THC
00:24:19gummies
00:24:19being laced
00:24:20with fentanyl
00:24:21anything is
00:24:22possible when
00:24:23it comes to
00:24:23the world
00:24:24of illicit
00:24:24drugs
00:24:25you know
00:24:26with THC
00:24:27gummies
00:24:27though
00:24:28now being
00:24:29so normal
00:24:29i think law
00:24:30enforcement is
00:24:31going to be
00:24:31able to
00:24:31discount that
00:24:32theory very
00:24:33very early
00:24:33on in the
00:24:34investigation
00:24:35the toxicology
00:24:37report
00:24:37jump-started
00:24:38the investigation
00:24:39sending law
00:24:40enforcement back
00:24:40to the
00:24:41richens home
00:24:42and this time
00:24:44they come
00:24:44armed with
00:24:45search warrants
00:24:46is there any
00:24:47evidence left
00:24:48behind that
00:24:49they can figure
00:24:50out what
00:24:51happened to
00:24:51Eric and
00:24:52that also
00:24:53includes
00:24:53seizing cell
00:24:55phones and
00:24:55other electronic
00:24:56devices belonging
00:24:57to the family
00:24:58that included
00:24:59taking the
00:24:59family's ipad
00:25:01and cory's
00:25:01phone hoping
00:25:02they'd offer
00:25:03clues
00:25:03they never
00:25:04found any
00:25:05trace of
00:25:06fentanyl in
00:25:06the house
00:25:07now you
00:25:08could argue
00:25:08that it never
00:25:09was in the
00:25:09home or
00:25:10was it
00:25:10flushed
00:25:10down the
00:25:11toilet
00:25:11or was it
00:25:12thrown out
00:25:12in the
00:25:13garbage
00:25:13or did
00:25:14the police
00:25:14just never
00:25:15find it
00:25:15or did
00:25:16the police
00:25:16just never
00:25:16find it
00:25:17from what
00:25:18we can
00:25:18infer the
00:25:19experts don't
00:25:20know how
00:25:23Eric had
00:25:24that fentanyl
00:25:24and how it
00:25:25got into
00:25:25his body
00:25:27hey this is
00:25:28cory richens
00:25:29hey i just
00:25:30have some
00:25:31quick questions
00:25:32for you
00:25:32months later
00:25:33cory was back
00:25:34on the phone
00:25:35recording more
00:25:35calls
00:25:36i'm just
00:25:37trying to
00:25:37understand the
00:25:38toxicology report
00:25:39and i promise i
00:25:40won't take up
00:25:40a ton of your
00:25:41time
00:25:41oh you're
00:25:42fine
00:25:42you're fine
00:25:43this time
00:25:44asking the
00:25:44medical examiner
00:25:45if he knew how
00:25:46the fentanyl
00:25:46got into her
00:25:47husband's system
00:25:48so does this
00:25:49tell you like if
00:25:50he if it was
00:25:51like injected
00:25:53if he ate it
00:25:53if i mean
00:25:55is that what
00:25:56this can you tell
00:25:57from this report
00:25:59not definitively
00:26:00not definitively i
00:26:01mean it seems
00:26:01like you know
00:26:02with what the
00:26:03amount that's
00:26:03there that it
00:26:04probably was
00:26:05ingested uh
00:26:06you know probably
00:26:07taken by mouth
00:26:07okay so the
00:26:0815 ng like is
00:26:10that like a
00:26:11substantial amount
00:26:12is that like a
00:26:13trace that's a
00:26:14lot that's a lot
00:26:15of fentanyl in the
00:26:15blood then the
00:26:16conversation turned
00:26:17to the source of
00:26:18the fentanyl it's a
00:26:20variant of fentanyl
00:26:21that is usually only
00:26:23present in the
00:26:25setting of uh
00:26:27illicitly
00:26:27manufactured fentanyl
00:26:31illicitly
00:26:31manufactured like a
00:26:32pharmacy no no
00:26:35no like a lot of
00:26:36most fentanyl that
00:26:37we see that you
00:26:39know ends up
00:26:39people waiting
00:26:40people to die
00:26:41these days is
00:26:43related to you
00:26:45know fentanyl
00:26:46that's manufactured
00:26:47by drug cartels as
00:26:48opposed to by
00:26:49pharmaceutical companies
00:26:50oh good lord do
00:26:52you have any
00:26:52indication he was
00:26:53abusing fentanyl
00:26:54no that's why all
00:26:56of this is just
00:26:56like what the
00:26:57heck is this
00:26:59it was all so
00:27:00tragic but corey
00:27:02was ready for a
00:27:02fresh start and a
00:27:04new venture you
00:27:05know i just watched
00:27:06the struggle that my
00:27:07kids were going
00:27:08through her story
00:27:10would get people
00:27:11talking just not in
00:27:12the way she expected
00:27:14i checked my
00:27:15facebook inbox and
00:27:17it said you need to
00:27:18investigate your
00:27:19children's book
00:27:20author did you know
00:27:21that she is a
00:27:21suspect in the
00:27:22murder of her
00:27:23husband
00:27:38as the first
00:27:39anniversary of her
00:27:40husband's death
00:27:40approached corey
00:27:42channeled her grief
00:27:43into a new project
00:27:44a self-published
00:27:46children's book called
00:27:47are you with me
00:27:48her friend greg
00:27:49hall watched it
00:27:50take shape
00:27:51she did it as a
00:27:52tribute to her
00:27:53children and to
00:27:54give them a
00:27:56memory and for
00:27:57other children that
00:27:58have been through
00:27:58this her boys were
00:28:00surely struggling
00:28:01how could they not
00:28:02be correct that's
00:28:04correct and she
00:28:04wanted to comfort
00:28:05them and i thought
00:28:06it was a good thing
00:28:06all she was trying to
00:28:08do was find a way
00:28:09that kind of helped
00:28:10the boys cope with
00:28:11it to help promote
00:28:13her book corey went
00:28:16on the salt lake city
00:28:16talk show good
00:28:17things utah so my
00:28:19husband passed away
00:28:20unexpectedly last year
00:28:22so it's march 4th was
00:28:24a one-year anniversary
00:28:25for us the book
00:28:26tells a fictional story
00:28:28that mirrors her own
00:28:29children's loss
00:28:30dina manzanares is a
00:28:31co-host of the ktvx
00:28:33program it's about a
00:28:35little boy who has
00:28:36lost his dad and as
00:28:37he's going through his
00:28:39life going to school
00:28:40going on different
00:28:42adventures he's
00:28:43wondering if his dad
00:28:44is still there and
00:28:45they're trying to keep
00:28:46that memory a part of
00:28:47his life every day in
00:28:49the book the dad is
00:28:50still there but he
00:28:52appears as an angel
00:28:54who's watching over his
00:28:56son yeah he's the
00:28:58guardian angel one
00:28:59passage reads i will
00:29:01forever love you my
00:29:02sweet baby until we see
00:29:03each other again
00:29:04yes i am with you
00:29:06did cory richard's
00:29:08story seem like
00:29:09something that could
00:29:10help other people i
00:29:11think what was appealing
00:29:12is that she was a
00:29:14grieving mother who was
00:29:17in her 30s raising three
00:29:19small kids here she is
00:29:21trying to cope she's
00:29:22trying to spread a
00:29:23message to others to
00:29:24help them cope as well
00:29:25that sounds like a
00:29:26conversation that we
00:29:27would like to hear more
00:29:28about my kids and i
00:29:29kind of wrote this book
00:29:31on the different emotions
00:29:34grieving processes that
00:29:36we've experienced last
00:29:37year and you know hoping
00:29:39that it can kind of help
00:29:40other kids myself and the
00:29:42co-hosts on the show are
00:29:43all moms with children we
00:29:45all have empathy for other
00:29:49mothers you know i just
00:29:50watched the struggle that my
00:29:52kids were going through and
00:29:53inside is an illustration of
00:29:55the whole family including
00:29:56their dog and there is
00:29:58something special for eric
00:30:00dedicated to my amazing
00:30:01husband and a wonderful
00:30:03father you are an amazing
00:30:05woman and mom and we thank
00:30:08you for being vulnerable and
00:30:09sharing this and touching the
00:30:10lives of others thank you i
00:30:12really appreciate being here
00:30:13cory goes on the program good
00:30:15things utah did you see her
00:30:17appearance i did i thought she
00:30:19did pretty good nervous but yeah
00:30:23i mean it's if it helps one kid
00:30:25it was well worth it the co-host
00:30:27also sensed cory's nerves and
00:30:30something else what i did notice
00:30:32was just reading body language she
00:30:35was a little bit protected she had
00:30:38her big heavy coat on and i thought
00:30:41oh she'll take it off before we do
00:30:43the interview but she never did did
00:30:44you chalk that up to you know the
00:30:46fact that she's been through this
00:30:47tragedy i did that all changed when
00:30:51dina arrived at work the next day
00:30:52get on my computer checking my
00:30:55emails and there is a anonymous
00:30:57message that's come into the entire
00:30:59station to every single person at
00:31:02the station yes the subject line was
00:31:05are you with me i open it up and all
00:31:08it says in capital letters and many
00:31:11exclamation points is you know she
00:31:12killed her husband i mean this is
00:31:15creepy it was definitely creepy it was
00:31:18definitely weird but we didn't we
00:31:21didn't really give it another thought
00:31:22after the initial whoa you don't think
00:31:25maybe she did kill her husband no
00:31:28because wild emails can come in and we
00:31:32thought it was bizarre we clocked it as
00:31:33being completely bizarre still the email
00:31:37gave dina pause then she remembered
00:31:39something corey shared in the green room
00:31:41at the tv station about eric's death
00:31:43she said my husband passed away from
00:31:46covid and he had a lung issue i didn't
00:31:50pry when she said that and i thought oh
00:31:53covid oh well maybe he did have something
00:31:55underlying a week after that first email
00:31:58dina got another message that's when i
00:32:02started to go okay hold on what is going
00:32:04on i checked my facebook inbox and it's
00:32:08somebody that i don't know and it said you
00:32:10need to investigate your children's book
00:32:12author did you know that she is a suspect
00:32:14in the murder of her husband the plot
00:32:16thickens yes and this is the point where
00:32:19i felt like i knew something was up
00:32:21something was up investigators had been
00:32:24looking into corey's past and her story
00:32:27of a perfect life with her husband was
00:32:29about to unravel it's a house of cards
00:32:32it is a delicate house of cards that she
00:32:35has constructed and it's beginning to fall
00:32:38apart
00:32:53beyond writing a children's book corey had
00:32:56also filed two lawsuits months earlier her
00:32:59target was eric's sister katie who controlled
00:33:02eric's trust and with it her brother's estate
00:33:06you know nothing belongs to corey at this
00:33:07point so i think you know she was obviously
00:33:10pretty upset with that while eric's estate
00:33:12attorney says she assured corey she could stay
00:33:14in the house corey wanted to undo the trust
00:33:17and get at least half of her husband's assets
00:33:20still her brother maintained she was only
00:33:23interested in one thing everybody looked at
00:33:25it as she was trying to get money out of the
00:33:27estate or whatever she never cared about
00:33:28the money she was trying to keep her house
00:33:31in response to corey's lawsuits eric's sister hired private investigator todd
00:33:36gabler my job was to investigate on behalf of the estate
00:33:40to determine whether there was a wrongful death
00:33:44to determine if there was financial mismanagement
00:33:47eric's sisters and father wanted to know if corey squandered his money on her
00:33:51house flipping business or was even responsible for eric's death
00:33:56when do you all realize that the richens family has hired a private detective
00:34:00to look into all of this we knew he was reaching out to people
00:34:04he reached out to my older sister too and then i reached out to him we didn't have
00:34:09a pleasant conversation we'll say but uh i just basically told him stay away from my family
00:34:14the pi brought on a forensic accountant who found corey was deep in the red
00:34:18she'd taken on too many houses none of it was solvent robbing peter to pay paul that's
00:34:24exactly right having no money to fund your next project you take the funding from your previous
00:34:30project and apply it to that it's a house of cards it is a delicate house of cards that she
00:34:36has
00:34:36constructed and it's beginning to fall apart corey was in a huge amount of financial trouble
00:34:44she was borrowing money from lenders that charged extremely high interest rates
00:34:51to pay off other lenders that were charging high interest rates and there was something else
00:34:56a year and a half before he died eric's family says he learned corey had secretly borrowed against
00:35:01their own home to start her business corey has taken out this home equity line of credit
00:35:07250 000 without telling him and she apparently forged his signature on this it was after eric discovered
00:35:16that loan that loan that he set up the trust giving control to his sister the family says that he
00:35:21did
00:35:21that because he didn't trust corey i think that's evident there is a lot of evidence that suggests that
00:35:30the trust between these two was broken and that eric took steps to protect his boys
00:35:39from her from her financial mismanagement to anyone who who wonders why eric didn't just
00:35:45leave did you learn anything during your investigation about why he chose to stay
00:35:51i think that he was concerned for the welfare of his three sons as for the home she did sell
00:35:59some buyers accused corey of lying about their condition and then back here the lipstick on a pig kind
00:36:06of classic scenario is what we we stepped into here we knew molly crosswhite bought one of corey's
00:36:12homes in midway utah her plan was to rent it out but she left it not in great shape not
00:36:18great looked
00:36:18good looked good looked good but was not a place that we were going to be proud or comfortable putting
00:36:24tenants in molly wanted the house and set up an inspection we learned there was no insulation
00:36:30there was electrical issues disappointed she wanted some of her money back we had to negotiate
00:36:37while under contract a credit that we would get at closing and let them know hey we can't rent it
00:36:43out
00:36:43the way that it is still she says the credit didn't begin to cover the home's problems looks good feels
00:36:49bad kind of a deal right taryn and alec wright bought a house from corey that they also say looked
00:36:55good
00:36:57i remember you know walking into the front door and we i'm getting goosebumps right now looking up i
00:37:03was like we immediately agreed we're like wow weeks after moving in they say their family's health
00:37:09started to seriously decline then they found something troubling in their son's bedroom when i moved
00:37:15the dresser away from the wall the mold was growing behind the dresser and so we never saw it before
00:37:21yeah and that's when we've noticed it growing out of the walls and so my gosh yes after testing
00:37:28revealed dangerous mold levels throughout the house the family immediately moved out they say their health
00:37:34issues improved i do val maynard sold the house to corey and said he disclosed to her it had serious
00:37:41issues i showed them the really bad bathroom we hadn't used for about a year or so downstairs what
00:37:48was wrong with the bathroom i had lots of water damage the rights have now sued corey alleging among
00:37:55other things that in the sales contract she checked no on each question related to previous water damage
00:38:02corey has denied the allegations in the lawsuit
00:38:07for corey the walls would soon start to feel like they were closing in
00:38:12that's because investigators were about to find a surprising trail of texts there were dozens of
00:38:18texts on some days going back and forth that's a lot for a housekeeper a lot for someone who's cleaning
00:38:25your house and more scandalous accusations were coming you discover corey richens has a lover a secret
00:38:33lover i do corey wanted to live her life without eric richens
00:38:52for over a year the tragic death of eric richens continued to weigh heavily on his family
00:38:58they were searching for answers and for someone to be held accountable this was a family who would
00:39:03that would stop at nothing to get justice for eric they would stop at nothing they wanted justice for
00:39:11their brother and son they believed they knew who that someone was even in those early hours after eric's
00:39:18death eric richens sister approached one of the investigators in the driveway and said
00:39:22i think corey had something to do with it really they assumed that she was involved in his death so
00:39:28they had to build their case when you have a family member pointing out a spouse right away
00:39:35that is a big red flag a big red flag another red flag that huge property the so-called midway
00:39:43mansion
00:39:44this 20 000 square foot mansion that sits on 10 acres at the base of the wasatch mountains was one
00:39:48of the
00:39:49properties corey wanted to flip but that would cost millions of dollars and was apparently a big source
00:39:54of contention between corey and eric remember corey said they were celebrating the midway mansion deal
00:40:01the night before eric died with those moscow mules and lemon drop shots the family told investigators
00:40:07eric was reluctant to buy that home pat reevey is a reporter with ksl.com corey was really hot on
00:40:14getting that property and flipping it but eric not so much he thought no this is just not going to
00:40:21be
00:40:21a wise investment eric's sister was stunned when she learned corey was going to close the deal just
00:40:26hours after his death the family was also troubled by corey's initial story that eric died of a lung
00:40:33fungus just like the one that killed his mother she told even eric's dad that they found this same
00:40:41fungus in eric's lungs which was a complete lie even eric had been suspicious of corey he told his
00:40:50family about that valentine's day sandwich that made him sick just two weeks before his death i spoke
00:40:56with a number of people who he had contacted regarding his health condition that day and they
00:41:04were all very alarmed at how he sounded and what he was saying to them what was he saying he
00:41:11was
00:41:11saying that corey was trying to poison him eric had also told his family about an unusual drink he
00:41:17had with corey on vacation years earlier they took a trip to greece and that after eric became violently
00:41:25sick now we don't know why but he left to the conclusion that corey was trying to poison him
00:41:32and then he starts saying these statements to family members that if something were to happen to me
00:41:38look at corey the family says that's why eric secretly removed corey's control over his estate
00:41:45he wanted to protect his sons from a wife he no longer trusted he's 39 and creating this living trust
00:41:52and making big changes it gives us reason to believe that he was in fear for his life so my
00:42:01husband passed away unexpectedly last year so and as she sat under the tv lights on good things utah
00:42:07corey may have believed the heat of the investigation was fading she was wrong a year after eric's death
00:42:14a new detective was assigned to the case we're seeing the shift from law enforcement looking more
00:42:22at corey as a suspect one reason investigators eventually ruled out the possibility that eric
00:42:29had accidentally overdosed did you find any evidence that showed that eric richens had a secret drug
00:42:34problem there's no evidence to suggest that at all as they were looking for a connection between corey and
00:42:41the drugs that killed eric investigators found something curious on her phone they look at the
00:42:46frequency of communication who she's communicating with the most who she's calling the most they also
00:42:53notice a frequency of communication with carmen who is her housekeeper these two are
00:43:02it seems talking about or discussing more than just cleaning houses yeah absolutely detectives found
00:43:08evidence of 800 text messages between corey and carmen prior to eric's death most of the texts had
00:43:15been deleted so when law enforcement looks into carmen lauber they come to find out that she's got
00:43:21significant drug history and that she's actively in drug court uh working off her previous charges
00:43:29uh i think this would be a big moment for law enforcement so they start putting two and two together
00:43:35that maybe carmen's the one supplying the fentanyl yeah and i don't think it's a huge leap you've got
00:43:40deleted text messages you've got an abnormal frequency in communication between corey and her
00:43:48housekeeper and then you've got the drug history they need to talk to carmen immediately detectives were
00:43:54able to get a search warrant for carmen's house they find a firearm during that search i can tell you
00:44:01from
00:44:01experience when a convicted felon is in possession of a firearm those are real consequences and they
00:44:09found something else up on a wall amongst inspirational quotes and family photos lo and behold on the mirror
00:44:17is eric richard's obituary this is telling carmen is close to eric and the boys and she is conspicuously
00:44:27absent from his funeral her absence is noticed by the family and i consider that early on as possible
00:44:37evidence of consciousness of guilt it was becoming clear to investigators that carmen was connected to
00:44:43eric's death it it's just not me they arrested carmen on that gun violation and sat her down in an
00:44:50interrogation room that the details about everything we've been talking about are going to be important
00:44:55for homicide investigation right for homicide investigation when they asked her if she had
00:45:00sold drugs to corey her memory was fuzzy so i wanted that her so abusing but okay so i want
00:45:07to say when
00:45:08she she she asked but like i said um oh i can't remember the music so they offered carmen an
00:45:17incentive
00:45:17to help jog her memory we believe you and that's why we're here working on what your get out of
00:45:22jail free
00:45:22carc looks like soon enough carmen's memory seemed to get better and she would have quite the story to
00:45:28tell we need hard details there's no more i'm going to do whatever because i've struggled so hard to get
00:45:34that's great with why that that's great motivation
00:45:52detectives were speaking with housekeeper carmen lauber who they believed was the key link between
00:45:57corey and the fentanyl that killed her husband eric give up the details that will ensure corey gets
00:46:05convicted of murder oh my god we need hard details that there's no more i'm going to do whatever because
00:46:11i've struggled so hard to get me like that that's great motivation like i said you hold all the
00:46:17i love eric he was a damn biggie and so carmen began it was february 2022 a month before eric
00:46:24died
00:46:25carmen said corey reached out and asked if she could get drugs for a real estate investor
00:46:30corey figured that carmen might have access to someone who could provide her with drugs and carmen
00:46:37did a few days before eric ate that valentine's day sandwich corey directed carmen to a house she had
00:46:43flipped carmen told investigators she went inside took the cash corey had left and went to buy the
00:46:49drugs carmen said she later returned and placed them in the backyard fire pit for corey i pulled
00:46:55into the driveway flat and there was just a it wasn't a big fire pit like it was a tiny
00:47:00fire pit it's
00:47:01kind of the infamous fire pit of midway and it's right here and this is where apparently drugs were
00:47:08left i'm not quite sure detectives paid a visit to the owner of the house you've already met her
00:47:13molly crosswhite how did you feel when you started to learn these details that that this house that
00:47:19you bought might have been used to secure really a murder weapon of sorts drugs it was upsetting it
00:47:28just was kind of just shocking i don't know how else to say it but the last thing i expected
00:47:33in the
00:47:34interview room the detectives were turning up the heat on carmen she told them that just days before
00:47:39eric died corey reached out again looking for more drugs so there was a couple of there was one okay
00:47:47now we're eating something i know one thing that when we got one it wasn't dark enough
00:47:55dark enough as in strong enough carmen said corey wanted the michael jackson stuff
00:48:04all she knows about the michael jackson drug is that it killed him but that message indicates a
00:48:11state of mind that she wants the drugs that are lethal doesn't matter what it is detectives tracked
00:48:19down carmen's drug dealer a man named robert crozier it wasn't that hard to find him he was in jail
00:48:27so how are you confused i imagine you are so we're here to talk to you about a transaction that
00:48:35you
00:48:35made a little over a year ago with a female named carmen lopper you met her at a maverick and
00:48:42draper
00:48:43on two separate occasions in february of last year so a little over a year ago okay she's gonna call
00:48:50win but didn't she ask for blue specifically or fentanyl specifically i think she might have asked
00:48:55for blue like manicure she knew what she was fine okay so she so she knew that there was
00:49:00good absolutely okay with the dealer corroborating carmen's story detectives now believe they had
00:49:08what they'd been searching for the crucial link between corey richens and the fentanyl that killed her
00:49:13husband it was a monday morning a month after that tv appearance law enforcement waited until corey's
00:49:20boys were at school and then they arrested her corey richens is here in the summit county jail
00:49:26tonight we're told she is being held without bail i just kept on thinking she couldn't do that
00:49:36she wouldn't do that yeah it's lots of process especially in a small valley like this it's uh
00:49:43pretty heavy stuff suddenly the story of the grieving mother turned alleged killer who wrote a book to
00:49:49help her sons was everywhere a headline making case out of utah oh indeed part-time author turned
00:49:57alleged killer if you haven't heard by now this is corey richens and the reason we're talking about
00:50:01this today is they have now formally charged her if she did it if she planned this how in the
00:50:07world can
00:50:08you come on live tv put yourself in the spotlight want publicity for your product and tell us that the
00:50:17most
00:50:17important thing to you is to keep his memory alive each and every day corey called her friend greg
00:50:25do you remember the first thing she said to you during your first phone call after her arrest um
00:50:30yeah she was crying and she said she was scared and what did you say to her things will be
00:50:36all right
00:50:36things gonna be okay we're gonna help you five weeks after her arrest corey got her chance to ask for
00:50:43bail miserations good morning attorney sky lazaro defended her there's nothing to show that corey did
00:50:52anything to eric being bad with money does not make you a murderer toward the end of the hearing eric's
00:51:00sister amy addressed the court if she gets out on bail i will be afraid not only for my own
00:51:05life
00:51:05and those of all of my family but most importantly for the lives of eric's three sons
00:51:12our family has already suffered enough please do not let corey out on bail where she will be a risk
00:51:17to do further harm defending corey darton richens shall continue to be tamed without bail corey later
00:51:24entered a plea of not guilty and braced herself for the battle she was about to fight
00:51:29you took a innocent mom away from her babies and this means war
00:51:49for nearly three years corey richens called the summit county jail home you keep calling and visiting and
00:51:57messages you know this is daily off and on all day continually you're her lifeline 100 100 we of
00:52:08course wanted to talk to corey too in may of 2024 she sent us a recorded message i've been silent
00:52:15for
00:52:15a year worked away for my kids my family my life living with the media telling the world who they
00:52:21think i am
00:52:22what they think i've done and things are speaking up i'm anxious to get to trial and i'm ready to
00:52:29get
00:52:29this one heck of a fight you took the innocent mom away from her babies and this means war in
00:52:37february
00:52:382026 almost four years after her husband eric's death corey at last got her chance to fight the charges
00:52:44against her first degree murder and attempted murder along with fraud and forgery she sat at
00:52:50the defense table flanked by her new team of attorneys eric's supporters lined one row of the
00:52:56packed courtroom corey's another my name is brad bloodworth i am one of summit county's criminal
00:53:02prosecutors the evidence will prove that corey richens murdered eric richens the prosecution rolled back
00:53:11the timeline to valentine's day 2022 two weeks before eric's death good morning sir hello turns
00:53:19out that sandwich eric ate that made him sick came from his friend gabe morin's diner the jury got a
00:53:25look at the to-go order that corey called in so at 8 55 you know it says a greek
00:53:30omelet quinoa salad
00:53:33bagel sandwich with hash browns and then corey is typed in does the detective tell you
00:53:38why this is coming into play this order nope nope the prosecution argued corey was the one who picked
00:53:47up the food so she could put something in eric's sandwich her first failed attempt to murder her
00:53:53husband we know that corey ordered it corey picked it up in person eric was a really good friend of
00:54:02mine eric's business partner cody wright told the jury eric called him at 2 p.m that valentine's day
00:54:08why is it you remember that phone call the fear in his voice the the
00:54:17urgency of of the situation the state theorized that corey learned from her mistake after that
00:54:24failed attempt with the sandwich you bite into that and you taste the sourness of that fentanyl
00:54:31pill you do not get the full dosage of what has been put on that sandwich because you take a
00:54:37couple
00:54:37of bites and you put it down prosecutors argued her next try was something easier to ingest the
00:54:43moscow meal she made that night was ginger beer and fentanyl the lemon shot drop shot
00:54:54maybe lemon and fentanyl if it's in a shot glass masked by alcohol you throw that back and the wrong
00:55:03taste
00:55:04it doesn't matter because it's too late it's already in your system the prosecutor told the
00:55:10jury to listen carefully to corey's behavior on her 911 call the 911 call operator asks her to perform cpr
00:55:18corey told first responders she'd started cpr but the prosecution said there was more to the story
00:55:24she seemed to do everything she could to avoid cpr as precious minutes ticked by are you able to lay
00:55:31him on
00:55:31the floor on the ground on the floor on the ground you can do it you can do it this
00:55:42sheriff's deputy
00:55:43was one of the first to the richens house he said corey didn't act like most grieving family members
00:55:49right after a death normally they have tears um they look at me when i ask them a question while
00:55:57they
00:55:58respond it just every time i spoke to miss richens just seems like her face was in her hands and
00:56:06i
00:56:06couldn't see her face it was just a little abnormal your honor the state calls katie richens benson
00:56:14eric sister katie also testified about corey's behavior that morning she wasn't crying like i was
00:56:20she wasn't hysterical katie said not long after corey told her boys their father was dead
00:56:25she was talking about closing the deal on the midway mansion i was dumbfounded and i looked at
00:56:33corey and said you can't tell me you're going to close on that midway mansion when my brother just
00:56:40died and she looked at me matter of fact and said yeah absolutely he has nothing to do with it
00:56:47the
00:56:47money's already gone through it's all my business i'm going to behavior was one thing but to make the
00:56:55case stick prosecutors knew they needed to connect the dots between corey and the drugs that killed
00:57:00eric for that they needed their star witness the honor of the state to cause carmen lopper on the
00:57:08stand she admitted to a troubled past do you have a criminal history involving drugs yes carmen testified
00:57:16about corey asking her if she knew someone who could get pain medication for one of her investors
00:57:21i had text corey back and told her that i had a friend that could get them but they were
00:57:29fat not pills
00:57:31how did corey retchens respond she said okay go ahead and get the state called this digital
00:57:38forensics expert to prove that carmen met up with drug dealer robert crozier just days before the
00:57:43valentine's incident and the week before eric died they're located in at or near the
00:57:49uh exact same location prosecutors argued it was proof carmen was telling the truth
00:57:55so all of that information corroborates the story that carmen is telling
00:58:03which was helpful because when he took the stand robert crozier couldn't remember how many times he'd
00:58:08met up with her like it was like four years ago so like i don't really remember if i met
00:58:16her more
00:58:16than once the prosecution presented even more digital evidence to the jury the searches corey made on her
00:58:23cell phone those searches were incriminating the prosecutor told the jury these are the searches
00:58:31what was corey retchens worried about how to completely wipe an iphone clean remotely can
00:58:37cops uncover deleted messages luxury prisons for the rich in america signs of being under fbi
00:58:43investigation what is a legal dose of fentanyl your thoughts on those searches it is incredibly
00:58:50important information about her state of mind at the time that those searches were made
00:58:56but why had corey allegedly killed eric this wife and mother of three had kept her share of secrets
00:59:03but perhaps none as explosive as him do you solemnly swear the testimony you're about to give
00:59:10in the matter before the court to be the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth subject to
00:59:13the pains and penalties of perjury you are the whole truth
00:59:30is the state ready to proceed mr bloodworth prosecutors may not be legally required to
00:59:36provide motive in a murder case but they also know it's human nature to want to know the why
00:59:41why would corey richens murder her husband eric reason number one said prosecutor brad bloodworth money
00:59:48more than anything she wanted his money to perpetuate her facade of privilege affluence and success
01:00:02the prosecution called forensic accountant brooke carrington to the stand she was initially hired
01:00:07by eric's family after he died as of the date that eric richens died
01:00:12uh corey richens was in financial distress on march the 5th 2022 immediately after closing on
01:00:22the midway mansion what was the amount of corey richens liabilities right about eight million dollars
01:00:31as her company tanked the state argued corey homed in on her husband's life insurance policies
01:00:37a month before he died prosecutors said corey took out a 100 000 policy without eric's knowledge
01:00:43this handwriting expert testified eric probably did not sign that policy himself there was no evidence
01:00:51that eric authored this signature corey ended up with nearly 1.4 million dollars in life insurance
01:00:59money from eric's death prosecutors also highlighted for the jury the prenuptial agreement corey had signed
01:01:06their prenuptial agreement meant that if she left him she would also leave most of his money
01:01:14the state argued that she believed eric was worth more to her dead than alive i got hired originally
01:01:20as an admin becky lloyd worked for eric's company she recalled a conversation with corey a few months
01:01:26before he died she talked about how she was feeling trapped and uh and she said that in many ways
01:01:34it
01:01:34would be better if he were uh if he were dead the prosecutor told the jury that book corey supposedly
01:01:41wrote to help her children through their grief was in reality also a money grab you see the emails
01:01:47they're in evidence she thought she would sell 100 000 copies in 10 months at five dollars profit a copy
01:01:56that is not tethered to reality but it does provide insight in how desperate she was for money
01:02:03according to the prosecution there was more than money to corey's motive she had been cheating on eric
01:02:09and was planning a fresh start with another man there was some question behind the scenes of the
01:02:14courthouse if they were even going to find him for him to testify and then her former boyfriend josh
01:02:22grossman entered the packed courtroom josh grossman comes in but it starts off rocky immediately with
01:02:30corey seated just feet away the clerk began swearing him in do you solemnly swear the testimony you're
01:02:36about to give in the matter before the court to be the truth the whole truth and nothing but the
01:02:39truth subject to the pains and penalties of perjury he asks what do you mean by tell the whole truth
01:02:48and the judge immediately stops everything whisks the jury out of the courtroom
01:02:55and sits mr grossman down and tries to spell out for him what he is signing up for mr grossman
01:03:03do you
01:03:04understand the difference between what's true and what's not true i do do you promise under the pains
01:03:09and penalties of perjury to tell the truth when you're asked questions absolutely and josh agrees to
01:03:15do that finally so the jury's brought back in josh's discomfort was palpable he testified that he started
01:03:22working for corey's house flipping business in the park city area in 2020 he told the jury he'd stay in
01:03:27the houses they were working on i had my dog with me we do live in flips me and the
01:03:33dog other than
01:03:35accommodations did she pay you for your service
01:03:41there i mean we didn't have any contractual agreement you know i she she took care of me you
01:03:48i lived for free she did she gave me money whenever i needed it i just you know i liked
01:03:57her so i had
01:03:59worked for free not that not that she didn't and you know pay me she did from time to time
01:04:08in lump sums
01:04:10during that time that you were romantically involved with miss richens did you love her
01:04:18yes during that time did you feel that she loved you
01:04:26yeah yeah yeah
01:04:31i have a tendency of going head over heels though probably more than most so you know i think she
01:04:39did
01:04:40the prosecutor pointed out that a few months before eric died cory had even booked a trip with
01:04:45josh to the island of saint martin i think that was a birthday present josh's discomfort only grew as
01:04:52the state showed the jury dozens of text messages between him and corey he was having a very difficult
01:04:57time breathing deeply making noises spinning in his chair corey was texting with josh and drove an hour
01:05:05to visit him on valentine's day 2022 the day prosecutors alleged she tried to poison eric with that sandwich
01:05:13the following day josh texted corey that he was in love with her she responded like actually in love
01:05:19with me if i was divorced right now and ask you to marry me tomorrow you would josh replied yes
01:05:26in love
01:05:26with y-o-u of course i would he then puts his head down on the witness stand like he
01:05:33doesn't want to be
01:05:34there he then starts to cry and wipes tears from his eyes mr grassman do you need a minute or
01:05:41two
01:05:41i don't know what i mean let's just start with why don't we take a five pause for a moment
01:05:47if you don't mind testimony soon resumed and the subject again those texts one week before eric died
01:05:55corey wrote josh i have a crazy dream i divorce and come up with millions and millions we buy midway
01:06:02and live in the guest house raise some kids have a little farm deal corey and josh even made plans
01:06:08to celebrate her purchase of the midway mansion on march 4th 2022 when he didn't hear from her that day
01:06:14he texted what's going on with you you good corey responded no eric passed away josh said the next time
01:06:22he saw corey was two weeks later that's when she asked the iraq war veteran about his time in the
01:06:27military she asked if if i had ever killed anybody sir what was that follow-up question she asked me
01:06:35how it made me feel or something along those lines and then i answered her
01:06:45i took it as not out of the normal though really
01:06:49the prosecution made the point that corey was trying to deal with her guilt of killing her husband
01:06:56by trying to figure out how her boyfriend dealt with it josh said his relationship with corey
01:07:02cooled off in the months following eric's death things weren't the same so i don't know if that led to
01:07:09to us parting ways or or what but it there was a lot on both of us you know what
01:07:15i mean
01:07:16understand thank you sir i don't have any further questions after calling dozens of witnesses okay
01:07:23it was the defense's turn with a move no one was expecting i saw a lot of mouths dropped and
01:07:33eyebrows
01:07:34shot up and they stared at that defense table
01:07:51prosecutors had given jurors in park city utah a lot to work with
01:07:55do you solemnly swear the testimony you're about to give they'd put on 43 witnesses to make their case
01:08:01i'm one of miss richard's attorneys so it's nice to meet you the defense cross-examined 38 of them
01:08:06hoping to unravel it going back to the web searches
01:08:11corey's attorney alex ramos wanted the jury to understand that those questionable searches corey
01:08:17made on her phone happened after eric died i imagine you're aware that all these searches were
01:08:22done after miss richard's knew she was under investigation correct yes corey's former lawyer sky
01:08:29lazaro the timing of these searches i think are probably the most critical and important part of
01:08:36the analysis of them these searches were done after she was served the search warrant for her home
01:08:43and for her electronics she just found out her husband died of a lethal overdose of fentanyl you
01:08:48might want to know what that means those searches to me were less of an issue than some other things
01:08:54in this case how does the defense combat a lover you know josh's mere existence in this sometimes the
01:09:02best way to combat things that are bad for your client or optically bad for your client is just to
01:09:07hit them head on from the beginning there was no running away from josh the prosecution hammered the
01:09:14point that corey wanted a new life the defense argued it was an affair nothing more would it be fair
01:09:20to
01:09:21say that the talk about a future together between you and corey was really more a fantasy than a realistic
01:09:27expectation my opinion you want my opinion on it sure i'd say yeah yeah more something that that maybe i
01:09:44i
01:09:44thought i wanted but didn't necessarily like i i couldn't picture it in the future you know
01:09:52to counter witnesses who said eric was scared about how sick he got after eating that valentine's day
01:09:58sandwich corey's old friend ali staking testified eric thought the whole thing was funny was everyone
01:10:04laughing yes we are laughing and we jokingly said don't eat with corey future when it came to the
01:10:10accusation that eric's death would bring corey an infusion of cash the defense pointed out eric
01:10:15made a lot of money and would continue making plenty more he declared to the irs that he made
01:10:22over 750 000 that was just in one year i mean if you accept that theory that she doesn't like
01:10:29him or
01:10:29she doesn't want to be married to him you know she's she's better off uh with him if it's purely
01:10:35financial motivated the money the boyfriend the sandwich the google searches were all problems for
01:10:44corey good afternoon is all good afternoon but it was the cross-examination of carmen the housekeeper
01:10:50that could make or break the defense's case reasonable doubt is one of the things that you
01:10:55don't always get in cases but this case does have certain amounts of reasonable doubt and that is you
01:11:03know the stuff with carmen there was carmen's fuzzy memory when police first talked to her
01:11:08you told them more than once over those days you had a lot of memory problems correct that my memory
01:11:13wasn't the best yes to underscore her credibility issues the defense got carmen to admit she had a
01:11:19history of lying in drug court to stay out of prison it's what addicts do when you're using that's true
01:11:24addicts lie and the defense said with carmen it was always about staying out of prison
01:11:29you are willing to do whatever it takes to save yourself from getting kicked out of drug court and
01:11:35going to prison correct i'm going to go forward with the truth yes and you're going to you tell them
01:11:40i'll do whatever it takes yes the prosecution had given carmen immunity in exchange for her
01:11:48testimony and the bottom line said the defense was corey never actually used the word fentanyl when
01:11:54talking to carmen you told authorities during the course of these interviews that corey richards
01:12:01never asked for fentanyl yes robert crozier who also received immunity for his testimony
01:12:10said on the stand he didn't have fentanyl to sell at the time eric died you had no access to
01:12:16it
01:12:16in january february march of 2022 no do you solemnly swear this with the lead detective the
01:12:24defense drove home the point that law enforcement never found any fentanyl in the richens house during
01:12:30that four years period of time as recently as less than a month ago you were still issuing search
01:12:35warrants is that right yes and there were a total of at least 10 or 10 searches by law enforcement
01:12:45of ms richard's home is that right there were 10 search warrants issued yet we have no murder weapon
01:12:51like you haven't found anything that was connected to eric's death no fentanyl in the house correct
01:13:00there was a boatload of fentanyl in his stomach that came out of the house with him if the lead
01:13:04detective couldn't point to any fentanyl in the house the defense argued maybe eric kept a secret
01:13:09stash in this old pill bottle what else do we find on that first day that eric died what else
01:13:14do they find
01:13:16the hydrocodone bottle why wasn't it tested what was kept in that bottle the painkiller was prescribed
01:13:25to eric six years earlier the defense asked the first detective on the scene about it wasn't there
01:13:30an empty hydrocodone bottle seized from right next to mr richen's bed there was you didn't put in an
01:13:37evidence bag no you didn't swab it for the inside of it no it was empty do you know where
01:13:43it is to this
01:13:44day no when it was time for the defense to put on its own witnesses cory's attorneys asked for a
01:13:51break
01:13:51we're all seated really on the edge of our seats in that courtroom anticipating that the defense
01:13:58will call witnesses then the jury heard this your honor after consulting with our client the defense
01:14:06rushed i saw a lot of mouths dropped and eyebrows shot up and they stared at that defense table
01:14:12what did you make of the defense not calling any witnesses when you're the defense and trial
01:14:19everything is on the spot kind of game day decision how's it going and what do we do next
01:14:25and you have to calculate the risks not putting on witnesses is that going to hurt cory are we leaving
01:14:31them on a high note and have we been able to effectively cross-examine everyone in order to get
01:14:37the points we needed to make for her defense through the state's witnesses mr bloodworth would
01:14:42you like to proceed yes your honor we may proceed to a packed gallery both sides made their closing
01:14:47arguments all the evidence in this case proves that cory richens murdered her husband and the father of
01:14:56her three children eric's richens do not let them fool you do not fall for red herrings cory richens did
01:15:05not kill eric richens count one and with that the case went to the jury so i'm looking at cory
01:15:11and i
01:15:12said to the lady next to me i'm like i said she's shaking and she goes she's trembling
01:15:30after sitting side by side for three weeks the jurors tasked with deciding cory richens guilt or
01:15:36innocence began their deliberations we spoke with two of them mark and eric out of privacy concerns they
01:15:43asked us not to use their last names take us into that jury room i mean as soon as we
01:15:49got in the jury
01:15:50room we just all needed to sit down and take collective breaths and then after that we just
01:15:55started to say hey look we each are going to talk for five minutes about what we saw not necessarily
01:16:00is cory innocent or guilty but just what did your lens as a person see on this trial mark's front
01:16:08row
01:16:08seat in the jury box allowed him to keep close watch on the defense table did you keep an eye
01:16:13on
01:16:13cory richens expressions throughout the trial and how she was reacting to things i absolutely did for
01:16:20the most part um i think there was a a poker game that was being played after they told me
01:16:26the jurors
01:16:27were also glued to the testimony of key witness carmen lauber carmen the housekeeper tricky witness
01:16:34because she has this past with drugs she's in trouble herself and she's been given a bit of a lifeline
01:16:41here you know to help the prosecution i saw a woman who was making genuine efforts to get on the
01:16:48right
01:16:48path and improve her life and frankly her testimony combined with the digital evidence of her travels
01:16:56really corroborated her her testimony they felt for cory's former boyfriend josh too
01:17:03you know my heart bled for him he was having problems breathing he needed water i had such
01:17:09compassion for him especially being a veteran as for the defense do you think that was a mistake
01:17:15to not put on a formal defense and you know just try the case through cross-examination i don't think
01:17:21it was a mistake as as much as their tactic and that was their right to do so juror eric
01:17:26thinks
01:17:26though the defense could have made more of the fact that no one knows for sure how eric richens
01:17:31ingested that fentanyl i think probably if they had focused on that then they may have gotten to
01:17:38reasonable doubt in the plus column for the defense a closing argument that tugged on this juror's
01:17:44heartstrings i was unexpectedly wittable and i was not much older than mccory and i had two wittables
01:17:51how do you judge someone in that moment they want you to look at a woman in the worst moment
01:17:59of her
01:18:00life and to judge her grief there is no wrong way to grieve it was a plea for not sending
01:18:08a mom to
01:18:09jail who has three children and i understand that i was rooting that that but then i got back to
01:18:14deliberations and it was like wait a minute mark like take a deep breath stop focusing on the
01:18:19emotional element and every time i tried to give her a lifeline or an off ramp off it just ended
01:18:25and
01:18:26it just pointed right back to her after only three hours the court was informed that the jury has
01:18:32reached a verdict the speed at which the jury came back was shocking to everyone we all quietly file
01:18:40into the courtroom and the judge makes it very clear that there is to be no outward reaction anybody in
01:18:47here can't follow these instructions this is your chance to leave i'm looking at cory and i said to
01:18:52the lady next to me i'm like i said she's shaking and she goes she's trembling and i looked down
01:18:57at her
01:18:58feet and they were shaking council miss richards please stand count one aggravated murder we the jury
01:19:12unanimously find that the defendant corey richards is guilty of aggravated murder
01:19:20count two attempted aggravated murder we the jury unanimously find that the defendant corey richards
01:19:28is guilty of attempted aggravated murder guilty guilty guilty guilty guilty and you just see corey
01:19:36just yeah her head goes down you could just read her face right she did a pretty good job throughout
01:19:44the whole trial having that poker face on but at that moment she looked down and her world came
01:19:50crashing down inside her head a look of defeat defeat i saw a broken woman but i think there's carnage
01:19:57everywhere it was shock i mean it was literally just shock you know my mother said corey did a good
01:20:03job that she just didn't break down there and i said well it's not a matter of breaking down i
01:20:07said
01:20:07it's just shock you don't know what to do i said and i felt the same thing she did
01:20:12for eric's family finally justice four years ago our family lost the brightest light
01:20:20eric is deeply loved and missed every single day we are grateful to everyone who has worked tirelessly
01:20:26to bring justice for eric our focus is now on honoring eric's life and supporting his boys
01:20:32as we all continue to heal thank you all for being here corey is scheduled to be sentenced next month
01:20:39she faces the possibility of 25 years to life behind bars she also has another criminal case pending
01:20:46with 26 additional financial charges she has not yet entered a plea her three boys are living with eric's
01:20:54family corey's book is out of print now but we did find it on ebay selling for more than 5
01:21:00000
01:21:07back in the shadow of the wasatch mountains the midway mansion once a symbol of everything
01:21:13corey dreamed of now has new owners and renovations are well underway
01:21:21at the mirror lake diner gabe morin thinks about eric when someone orders his favorite chicken fried
01:21:27steak or sits in his usual seat you know i'm sad this whole situation happened but i think it's the
01:21:34right outcome he certainly never imagined the role his diner would play in corey richen's murder trial
01:21:41or that his friend's three sons would be left without a father eric was just a simple good guy
01:21:48you know and his kids don't have a dad you know and and i that's the part that hits me
01:21:53hard
01:21:55and you know and those kids will be okay eric taught them right they are smart strong kids they'll be
01:22:02okay
01:22:02but it's not fair that's all for this edition of dateline and don't forget to check out our talking
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01:22:20dateline feed wherever you get your podcasts we'll see you again next friday at nine eight central i'm
01:22:28lester holt for all of us at nbc news good night
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