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The First 48 - Season 29 - Episode 09: Blood Brothers
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00:01This program documents actual homicide investigations.
00:05Criminal charges are often dropped or reduced,
00:07and all suspects shown are presumed innocent unless proven guilty.
00:22A suburban neighborhood on Tulsa's east side.
00:27911, I need police, and it's an emergency.
00:32There were just shots fired from a semi-automatic weapon from two cars that just headed east.
00:43As police and EMS rushed to the scene.
00:48911, do you need police, fire, or medical?
00:50Police and medical.
00:52There was a shooting outside my house, and somebody inside my house got hit.
00:57Can you get somebody here, please?
00:59We already have help on the way.
01:02Police! Police!
01:04Where's he at? Where's he at?
01:06He's not in the head.
01:10Police! Police!
01:16First responders start CPR.
01:20Hey! Hey!
01:22This is Greg.
01:23Greg!
01:24Greg!
01:25Come on, Gene!
01:25Come on, man!
01:26Gene, come on, brother!
01:28You mean he's 10-7?
01:30Yeah.
01:30But they're unable to save him.
01:33Gene!
01:34Oh, my God!
01:37Oh, my God!
01:47The driver is cut in half if they don't get a lead within the first 48 hours.
02:07discordant Police!
02:08He's coming back.
02:10Thank you!
02:12Wow.
02:13Yeah, Greg.
02:14Anyone will ever wanna see her reticular flops in the house.
02:17Detective Reggie Warren will lead the investigation.
02:21up max where's the body at right inside and he's laying in the front door
02:29what name do we have greg lamont
02:3441 year old gregory lamont dumas jr was born and raised in tulsa known as g he worked as a
02:41custodian at the bank of oklahoma center and was enrolled in welding school he leaves behind his
02:47parents three sisters and two brothers the victim was he living there greg lives on the other side of
02:57harvard greg lives four blocks away and his friends with the homeowner's son i'd like to go and look at
03:04the victim all right yeah
03:15where's he hid he's looking at his head greg was shot once in the back of the head
03:22casing's in the door the team finds three nine millimeter shell casings on the front porch
03:30the victim might have had a gun did you find a gun no
03:36there are holes everywhere
03:39the front of the house was struck multiple times
03:46what caliber cases do we have right here in the front yard
03:53the team discovers eight 223 rifle casings
03:58someone is shooting back
04:00gorgia's 223 shot at the house
04:03they're spraying and praying
04:06it looks like there are probably a lot of rain doorbell cameras around it
04:10if you've got people yeah can you have your cameras ready
04:22homeowner is sitting underneath the carport
04:24okay the man who owns the house where greg was killed
04:27was sitting outside when the shooting occurred
04:30is the homeowner okay
04:32the homeowner is okay yes
04:33cool
04:36homeowner says a white male wearing dark clothing was standing
04:39outside of his fence
04:41okay says he sees a dark suv pull up
04:44and then another dark suv pull up right behind it
04:48okay
04:49white male walks it over to the suv
04:51says here's two to three shots
04:53white male starts running towards the house
04:56says the driver of the dark sedan starts firing
04:59at the white male right into the house
05:01okay
05:02says white male runs to the front door
05:03the homeowner said the white male ran through his house
05:07and out the back door
05:09and then he said he's seen the two cars drive off
05:13did these people claim just a stranger ran at my house
05:17casper has to be known
05:18he said he's known him for two years
05:20don't know his name
05:22take him downtown
05:24the homeowner and his son who was inside the house when greg was shot agree to talk
05:29at homicide
05:32then
05:33there's two videos okay
05:34that's the second vehicle
05:37patrol officers recover surveillance video from two homes down the street from the crime scene
05:52and then the other one is some kind of gray or blue chevy equinox
06:01that's what the name
06:04this video came from a house across the street a few doors down
06:09you can't see the actual shoe but you can see the driver of the equinox wearing a pink shirt driving
06:13away
06:16one vehicle is going to be a newer model tahoe with a ball hitch
06:20the team issues a bolo for the tahoe and the equinox seen in the video
06:26we got really good video
06:27we got witnesses
06:28and so we're going to go down and talk to them
06:30try to get some clarity
06:31and try to get some suspects identified
06:33we'll go ahead downtown and try to piece this together
06:44back at homicide
06:46i'm going to talk to the homeowner where this occurred
06:48we'll see what he has to say
06:54i'm detective ron
06:55just here to get your statement and then we'll get you back home
06:57okay
06:58so in your own words to tell me what you saw happen
07:03i was sitting out on the driveway
07:05the suv pulled up
07:08and uh car pulled up behind him
07:11then i saw casper
07:14the homeowner says casper a friend of his son
07:17was standing by the fence in front of his house
07:20i don't know who he is
07:22but he doesn't know casper's real name
07:26he went out to the suv
07:28okay
07:29and he come back toward my house
07:32he had a white envelope
07:33he says casper suddenly fired three shots
07:46at the vehicles in the street
07:48and then i saw the person
07:50in the second vehicle
07:51they got out and went to the back of their vehicle
07:55okay
07:56they were putting a weapon together
07:59and came up and started firing at him
08:03boom boom boom
08:04trying to i think shoot him as he went into the house
08:08and that's probably what got greg
08:11uh could you say if it was a rifle or a handgun that he put together
08:15it wasn't a handgun
08:16okay
08:18where does casper run
08:19does he run into the house
08:21i know he did
08:22okay
08:22he came out where i was sitting
08:23and he went through the backyard
08:26and i assume over the fence
08:29they took off
08:30they took off
08:31the computers took off
08:32greg our victim
08:34g wasn't out at the cars
08:36no
08:38i don't think greg has anything to do with anything
08:41okay
08:41i think he was just very unlucky
08:46okay
08:46i think that's all
08:47i appreciate your cooperation
08:52okay
08:53talked to a witness here
08:55says casper was the one that was shooting at our suspects
08:58the nine millimeter case scenes on the front porch are going to be casper's
09:02but
09:03it was real nine
09:06gotta find casper the friendly ghost
09:09raiden runs the nickname casper in the police database
09:13okay
09:14we found him
09:17casper is 25 year old noah chrisman
09:20he is a father
09:21and has another child on the way
09:24chrisman has multiple convictions
09:25including transporting a loaded firearm in a motor vehicle
09:29and threatening an act of violence
09:32so i know who casper is
09:35casper knows who he was dealing with
09:38the team will put out a bolo for noah chrisman
09:42okay i have to interview the homeowner so
09:44and we'll go from there
09:55i'm detective right
09:57gray didn't do anything wrong
09:58oh no
09:59you like to solve gray's case so
10:02tell me about him
10:03how do you know him
10:04i met him to uh
10:06for the bars
10:07about five years ago
10:08and we got real tight
10:10real close
10:10back real quick
10:12what kind of person was he
10:14great
10:15and then he'll help everybody
10:19so let's go in today
10:20yeah
10:22casper
10:22i didn't even know he was here today
10:25like i woke up
10:26to him saying
10:27hey what are you doing
10:28he says he was asleep on the living room couch
10:31when noah chrisman and his girlfriend stopped by
10:35she's a good friend of ours
10:36she's like my niece
10:38and she's pregnant
10:40was she there when this happened
10:42yes
10:44that's news to me
10:45okay
10:47casper goes outside meets someone
10:48yeah
10:50okay
10:51do you hear anything that alerts you that something is going outside
10:54yeah
10:55gunshot
10:56how many approximately did you hear
10:58three
10:59he says after the gunshots
11:01casper ran into the house
11:04and i was like what the hell
11:05he said sorry
11:06and then he
11:08went like that
11:09he saw a gun
11:11tucked into casper's waistband
11:13i think it's a nine
11:14of course
11:16that's when i heard
11:17pow
11:18coming from the road
11:20did you hear
11:21more gunshots
11:22there were six what i heard
11:24i was like oh
11:25and i turned
11:27i was yelling duck
11:28and i bumped into greg
11:29and i just went down
11:30and i saw him fall
11:46okay
11:47um
11:48so you saw greg fall
11:50i turned
11:51and then right there next to me
11:53okay
11:53he says greg
11:54collapsed onto the floor
11:56next to him
11:57that's when i seen
11:58oh
12:00there was just
12:01i mean his blood was just
12:03okay
12:11where does casper go
12:12when you guys are getting shot at
12:14he went out the back door
12:16and over the fence
12:18he says casper fled the house
12:21with his girlfriend
12:23how would i get a hold of casper
12:25i don't know
12:25like
12:26how do you get a hold of him
12:27he just comes
12:27he comes over on foot
12:28or he gets dropped off
12:31okay sit tight
12:32and then we'll get you guys out
12:33right now
12:42let me make contact with mom
12:43see where she is
12:44and we'll go to her
12:51jovita my name is
12:51detective warren
12:53are you at home right now
12:55i need to come talk to you
13:04my mom called me and she told me that
13:06the police had just been to the house
13:09that my brother was dead
13:11that he was shot
13:12minding his own business
13:13and he lost his life
13:16i couldn't believe what i was hearing
13:18i was asking her
13:19i was like are you sure
13:20she said my son is gone
13:22your brother is gone
13:25it's been really hard
13:26for us to
13:28to come together
13:29and not see him here
13:32my mom
13:33she has his pictures on her phone
13:35and she has to keep it close
13:37to her so she can see his pictures every day
13:39or it's nerve-wracking for her
13:41not to be able to at least look at his pictures
13:44greg played a big part in our lives
13:47he was caring love and understanding patient
13:51and for him to die the way he did is just unbelievable
13:57he was just going over to visit a friend
14:01to losing
14:04i can't express the words
14:07he didn't deserve what he went through
14:10and just to see him not coming at my door
14:13it hurts
14:17no matter how much time
14:19you spend with somebody
14:20and you think it's enough time
14:22but it never is when they're gone
14:24he was my brother
14:25and i'll always love you
14:35as detectives return from notifying greg's family
14:40this appears to be the same tahoe
14:43from the original rent camera
14:46patrol officers spot an suv
14:48matching one of the suspect vehicles
14:50just blocks from the crime scene
15:05walk straight back to that side of my car
15:08walk to me
15:11what the is going on
15:15passenger your turn
15:17step out of the car
15:18with nothing in your hands right now
15:45there's two three casings
15:52there's a gun in there
15:56it's an AR
15:59I think our pink shirt's going to be the Equinox driver
16:07what's your name?
16:08Chris Leiter
16:1020 year old Christopher Leiter
16:11and his 21 year old brother
16:13James Leiter
16:15are from Oklahoma City
16:18bro this is not legal
16:20this is legal
16:21stop talking
16:23right now we're investigating
16:24a crime that occurred
16:26just down the street
16:27right now you're being detained
16:29there's some people that want to talk to you
16:31so they're going to try and support you
16:32down to the detective division
16:33should we talk with my brother at the same time?
16:35no
16:44four hours since Greg was killed
16:48both of these guys were from the Oklahoma City area
16:51so I called Oklahoma City PD
16:52and got a little bit of information on them
16:55Chris Leiter
16:57Christopher Leiter owns a mobile detailing and pressure washing business
17:00he has no prior convictions
17:03his brother James Leiter
17:06James Leiter
17:07has prior convictions for possession of a controlled substance
17:10with the intent to distribute
17:12and knowingly receiving stolen property
17:15I'm going to try to interview those guys
17:17and see what we can learn
17:23I'm Detective Warren
17:25it's Detective Lansdown
17:27Warren and Detective Lacey Lansdown
17:29start with James
17:32give us a rundown on what happened this afternoon
17:36I came down here to sell him an iPhone 15
17:39for $1,200 unlocked
17:42I brought my brother with me
17:43because I felt uneasy
17:45dealing with Noah
17:46you know what I mean
17:48I know he likes guns
17:51so I had my brother follow me in another car
17:53with a gun
17:54just to be safe
17:55you know
17:56Tahoe
17:57I was driving
17:58the 2019 Chevy Equinox
18:01he was driving
18:02I came down here
18:03I gave him the iPhone
18:05Noah
18:05he handed me the money
18:06and I noticed
18:08it was fake
18:09$100 bills on top
18:10trying to make it look like a large sum of money
18:12you know
18:13just pass it off quickly
18:15my brother's behind me
18:17in a black car
18:17outside of the house
18:19so he gave me the fake money
18:20I hauled at my brother
18:21through the passenger window
18:22of the Tahoe
18:23like bro let's get him
18:26Casper started shooting at us
18:42I was in the Tahoe
18:43I was in the Tahoe
18:43you know
18:43like dug down
18:51my brother ducked back
18:53behind his car
18:53to make sure
18:54he didn't get shot
18:55Noah was
18:56trying to like
18:57run inside
18:58he shot the radiator
19:00he says
19:01one of Noah's bullets
19:02struck the radiator
19:03of the Equinox
19:05it leaked
19:05fluid out there
19:07my brother
19:08grabbed the firearm
19:10said he had to put the clip in there
19:12cocked it back
19:12and loaded
19:12and then he said
19:14he started firing back
19:14no
19:16you did not shoot
19:17no
19:18no I was in a totally different car
19:21let me ask you this
19:22how many times do you think
19:23your brother shot
19:24ten times
19:27where's this car
19:28right now
19:28my brother's car
19:30is messed up
19:30the car wasn't going nowhere
19:32so I left it at the auto zone
19:35my brother had got into my SUV
19:37he had grabbed a duffel bag
19:40I think it had a gun in there
19:41and threw it in my car
19:44I actually called Noah
19:47and I said bro
19:47what the f***
19:48you know what I mean
19:49and then he said
19:50that his homie was shot
19:52and I thought he was lying
19:54I went back
19:55towards that area
19:57to clarify
19:59that's why I was right back there
20:00in the neighborhood again
20:02so you came back
20:03and you saw all the police cars
20:04and all the stuff like that
20:05yeah I see the police cars
20:05and my heart sank
20:10well here's where it gets real stick
20:12somebody did get shot
20:14and that person did not survive
20:17he's dead
20:19all over a cell phone
20:22I know like
20:24like man I didn't do nothing wrong
20:27I
20:29I'm not a killer
20:30you know what I mean
20:34thank you for being
20:36honest with us
20:36I'm trying to tell you guys
20:38James
20:38as much as possible
20:39I appreciate it
20:40I'm going to shake your hand
20:41because I appreciate you
20:42telling us
20:43and trying to clear some stuff
20:44I'm going to go to prison
20:44for the rest of my life
20:45over an iPhone
20:46that went wrong
20:52we gotta talk
20:52yeah we gotta do some talking
20:54okay
20:54sit tight buddy
20:55okay
21:03I think he's being truthful
21:05I think Casper probably did shoot first
21:07because my guy says
21:08he hears three shots
21:10at that point
21:10Casper comes in the house
21:11and has a gun
21:13but the shooting has stopped
21:15and the threat is over
21:17your boy then went to the back of their car
21:19got a rifle
21:20shot into a house
21:22that's occupied by lots of people
21:23and kills Greg
21:26the shots have stopped
21:27and now you're loading up to retaliate
21:29exactly
21:31so if there was a lag
21:32then the self-defense stuff
21:34goes out of the window
21:35and both Chris Leiter
21:37and Noah Christman
21:38will be arrested
21:39for a felony murder
21:43but James said Casper
21:44tried to rip him off
21:45over an iPhone
21:46my thing is
21:47if James is there
21:48to only sell an iPhone
21:49and then his brother
21:50was the only one
21:50fighting to the house
21:51then James wouldn't be charged
21:53he'd just be considered a witness
21:55but he needs to do the timeline
21:57I get that clarified
21:59every second counts in this case
22:09I need to clarify
22:10a couple of things
22:13after Casper stopped shooting
22:14you guys were ducking down
22:16obviously you were ducking down
22:17your brother was probably
22:18ducking down
22:19and then he like
22:20it clicked in his head
22:20to go grab the gun
22:22out of the front
22:22okay
22:23it took him a couple seconds
22:25to get the mag in there
22:26and like as he's like getting it
22:30I was like bro
22:30come on
22:30come on
22:31come on
22:31like hollering out of my door
22:33he's been shot at
22:34but like he actually loaded the gun
22:36started shooting back at Casper
22:39so here's the thing
22:42there is witnesses that
22:44saw what happened
22:48Casper had already made it
22:49into the house
22:50oh he did
22:51yes
22:52before you guys start shooting
22:54so it took him
22:55it took my brother a couple seconds
22:57right
22:57so that would make sense
22:59Casper was into the house
23:00took your brother a couple seconds
23:01to get out to load the gun
23:03so he wasn't
23:03he wasn't putting the gun together
23:05as you were taking fire
23:07no
23:09they weren't firing
23:10bang bang bang bang
23:11bang bang bang bang
23:12like at each other
23:14it wasn't like a gun battle
23:15like
23:16like
23:16like the wild west
23:18it was a lag in between
23:19am I correct
23:20it was
23:20it was a lag
23:21yes
23:35once Casper stopped
23:36your brother
23:37put the gun together
23:38and returned fire
23:39yes
23:40okay
23:48can you talk to my brother
23:49he'll tell you a lot more too
23:53I'll talk to him in just a second
23:54okay
24:00Warren and Ryden
24:01turned to James' brother
24:03Christopher
24:06hey Chris how you doing man
24:07I've had better days
24:08I understand that
24:11so I got a question
24:12like
24:12is there a chance
24:13of me going home tonight
24:15well here's the thing
24:16we can't make any decisions
24:17until we put all this stuff together
24:20tell us what happened today
24:22I followed my brother out here
24:24just to make sure
24:24everything goes well
24:26he doesn't want to get killed
24:27and then nobody be there
24:28to see it
24:30I keep my gun in the trunk
24:32the clip in front of it
24:34and the gun over here
24:36what kind of weapon did you have
24:38it's an AR pistol
24:39it looks like an American flag
24:41and is it loaded
24:42or is it unloaded
24:43it's unloaded completely
24:45and then you got a mag
24:47next to the case
24:48was the magazine loaded
24:49magazine was loaded
24:50yeah
24:50okay
24:51you usually want to keep
24:52your mag loaded
24:54yeah why have a magazine
24:55if it's not loaded
24:55right
24:56okay
24:58I travel legally
24:59I just wanted you to know
25:00how to keep my gun
25:02pulling up there
25:03I thought that was Noah's house
25:05okay
25:05does he have a nickname
25:06or anything that he goes by
25:07Casper
25:09he comes out
25:10he gives my brother
25:11fake money for the iPhone
25:13my brother jumps out of the car
25:14and says get him
25:15get him
25:15I thought he meant tackle
25:17where was Casper at
25:18he was
25:18he was by his fence
25:19and then as soon as he seen me
25:21get out of my car
25:22gunshots were blown
25:24you know
25:24if your car got hit
25:25yeah my car got hit
25:27I was shooting water out
25:28it's leaking
25:30something clicked to me
25:31I run to my back
25:32to the truck
25:34and then he was shooting at me
25:35so I
25:36I shot back
25:38how long do you think
25:39it took you to
25:40exit car
25:41in the truck
25:43probably one minute
25:45it took you about a minute
25:46to get your gun
25:47yeah it took a while
25:49okay
25:49okay
25:51I don't want to kill nobody at all
25:53I didn't even want to hurt nobody
25:55I was just trying to hit the house
25:57because
25:57at the point that you shot
25:58my $30,000 car
25:59I'm not trying to hit you
26:00I just want
26:00I want your house
26:01to be okay
26:03okay that's real interesting
26:05once those shots stopped
26:07you felt
26:08you were able to go get your gun
26:10and
26:11and return fire
26:12hitting an individual in the house
26:17let me ask this
26:18I'm smart
26:20those are like real breaks
26:21and the bullets can just go through
26:24what else do houses have
26:27insulation and sheetrock
26:29what do you look out of a house
26:30windows
26:31yeah you get a window
26:33I'm not saying with you the brick
26:34I know I went through a window
26:36there's a dead guy
26:40so far what's it looking like
26:41because honestly like
26:42I thought I was got shot
26:44I started checking my body
26:46honestly like I was looking around
26:47I was making sure that I wasn't hit
26:49he shot at you guys
26:51however
26:52you had to physically think
26:54let me get my gun
26:55get out
26:56open the trunk
26:57open the case
26:59where your gun is in
27:01load it
27:03make it ready
27:03and then fire back
27:06so here's the thing
27:08you weren't getting
27:09out of your car
27:10to get that gun
27:11while you were taking fire
27:12you were ducking
27:14no I was
27:15I was on my way
27:15you were ducking
27:16I was on my way to the back
27:18honestly it probably happened faster man
27:19I'm going to say 45 seconds
27:22well Chris
27:23sit tight for just a second okay
27:24I'm going to talk to my partner
27:33your boy is going to jail Reggie
27:34yeah I know it
27:37the immediate threat was over
27:39Casper had already taken off running
27:41and Chris
27:43admitted that he was a shooter
27:44multiple rounds
27:46went through the house
27:48one sadly enough
27:49struck the victim in the head
27:53Lacey
27:53get the all the waivers
27:55and stuff signed
27:55DNA
27:56car and phone
27:59yeah
28:10there's a couple things
28:11we need to get from you
28:12we need to process
28:13these cars
28:14so we'll need to get
28:14a search waiver for those
28:16we do need to look
28:17in the phone
28:17because that's how
28:18you're communicating
28:19with Casper
28:20we need a search waiver
28:21for that
28:21it'll speed things up
28:22a lot quicker
28:26I'm going to be honest
28:27with you man
28:27I'm worried about
28:28my cell phone
28:29you know what I mean
28:30why
28:32so
28:34let's say like
28:35I wasn't completely
28:36like given
28:37like an iPhone
28:38you know what I mean
28:38what if it was
28:39something else
28:41I would appreciate
28:42you being honest
28:42with me
28:43you got it
28:45I felt so upset
29:03you've been cooperative
29:04I don't know
29:05why you're concerned
29:06about your phone
29:14it's in the messages
29:15you know what I mean
29:16you're going to see it
29:18I lied about the iPhone
29:21so what
29:23so
29:24what if it was drugs
29:26okay
29:28I just don't want
29:28to go to jail
29:31what kind of drugs
29:32Molly
29:34how much
29:35weight
29:35talking with this Molly
29:37it was
29:37it was Molly
29:38and a couple
29:38other things
29:39okay so Molly
29:40and what else
29:44you're doing good
29:45you come clean
29:47this is going to put me
29:48in jail for
29:49for distribution
29:49not yet
29:50I don't know
29:53we're worried
29:54about somebody
29:55being dead
29:56so
29:57just
29:58just come clean
29:58about
29:59what all you were selling
30:02I thought
30:02it was some acid
30:03some Molly
30:04some acid
30:05Molly
30:05what else
30:07Adderall
30:07Adderall
30:08okay
30:09it was $4,000 worth
30:11of sign
30:12did you give him
30:14these drugs
30:14or is it still
30:15in your car
30:18so he has
30:20them
30:20okay
30:24probation
30:27yeah man
30:28that's not good
30:30how many years
30:31for drugs
30:33I don't know
30:34it could be anywhere
30:36from five
30:37to life
30:39this just
30:39me
30:40no it didn't
30:42oh my god
30:46would you ask
30:47if I could just
30:48get my brother out
30:48of course I will
30:49this is
30:49I don't know
30:50if I'm ever
30:50going to see him
30:51again
30:52he's 20
30:52and I'm
30:54probably going
30:54you know
30:55yeah I'll be
30:56right back
31:04try to get
31:05some
31:05search waivers
31:06and he spilled
31:07the beans
31:08if you're selling
31:10an aggravated
31:10trafficking amount
31:11of drugs
31:12and a murder
31:12happens
31:13that is called
31:14a felony murder
31:15and everybody's
31:16going
31:16I mean
31:17he was fine
31:18when it was
31:18an iPhone
31:19and now he's
31:20not
31:21he is now
31:22a felony murder
31:23suspect
31:26they're both
31:26going to jail
31:30since he told
31:31the truth
31:31he did ask
31:32if he could
31:32hug
31:33okay
31:35but they want
31:36to hug
31:36and they can
31:36hug
31:37and they'll
31:37probably say
31:37have some
31:37more stupid
31:38stuff on
31:38table
31:44James
31:49here
31:49I'm going
31:49to have you
31:49sit down
31:52so here's
31:53the deal
31:54you both
31:54are going
31:54to jail
31:55today
32:00it's called
32:00felony murder
32:02both of us
32:03you're in trouble
32:04because you're
32:05part of it
32:05you set up
32:05a drug deal
32:06your brother
32:06backed you
32:07and had a gun
32:07and then
32:08during that
32:09drug deal
32:09an innocent
32:10person got
32:10killed
32:11I admit
32:12you guys
32:12did get
32:13shot at
32:13but Noah's
32:14going to get
32:14charged with
32:15murder
32:15just like
32:15you and
32:15your brother
32:18so rarely
32:19would I
32:19do this
32:19but you
32:19guys seem
32:20like brothers
32:20that aren't
32:21going to
32:21cause a
32:21problem
32:21so I'll
32:22let you
32:22guys sit
32:22in the
32:23same room
32:24okay
32:34go ahead
32:37sorry
32:38probably we
32:39both love
32:39for this
32:40bro
32:40no
32:41you
32:41didn't
32:41bro
32:41don't
32:42do
32:42that
32:43no
32:43it
32:43didn't
32:44and we're
32:44getting out
32:45of this
32:45bro
32:49listen
32:50probably
32:51last time
32:51we'll be
32:51chilling
32:52together
32:52for a long
32:53time
32:53bro
32:55make it
32:56look so
32:56bad
32:57doing
32:58it's
32:58my
32:58deal
32:58killing
32:58innocent
32:59person
33:01for
33:01beating
33:01this
33:01bro
33:02beating
33:02that
33:03I
33:04expect
33:04to do
33:04probably
33:04quite
33:05like that
33:06I
33:07hate
33:07guns
33:08bro
33:09I love
33:10them
33:10still
33:10I'm not
33:11against
33:11them
33:12I'm just
33:12saying
33:13in general
33:15it's a
33:16very good
33:16case
33:18I think
33:19I have
33:19a really
33:19good chance
33:20of beating
33:20this
33:21I think
33:22they're
33:22hammers
33:22both
33:23of us
33:24of us
33:31scream
33:31I didn't
33:32think
33:32that was
33:32killing
33:34why
33:34did God
33:35do this
33:35to us
33:38I miss
33:39you
33:39I love
33:40you
33:40bro
33:42it seems
33:43like Chris
33:43and James
33:44have no
33:45remorse
33:45for what
33:45they did
33:46they just
33:47want to
33:47beat the
33:47case
33:48they really
33:49seem likable
33:49when you're
33:50talking to
33:50them
33:50so
33:51it's a little
33:51disappointing
33:52that they
33:52understand
33:52what they did
33:53was really
33:53bad
33:53and it
33:54led to
33:54someone
33:55being killed
33:56they'll figure
33:57it out
33:57eventually
34:04Chris
34:05Leiter
34:05and James
34:05Leiter
34:06they ultimately
34:07told the truth
34:09we've come a long
34:10way
34:10I got Chris
34:12and James
34:12Leiter
34:12in custody
34:14but
34:14you see a lot
34:15more at stake
34:15because
34:16Chris
34:16or Casper
34:17is armed
34:18with a 9mm
34:20and if he can
34:21shoot at them
34:21he can shoot at
34:22anybody else
34:23so we gotta
34:23get him
34:23off the streets
34:26he was the one
34:27that shot first
34:28and if Nora
34:29hadn't fired first
34:29none of this
34:30would have happened
34:31Greg would still
34:32be alive
34:34I am actually
34:36typing a warrant
34:36for his arrest
34:37now
34:37so I'll turn
34:39our fugitive
34:40warrants
34:40unit on to this
34:43hopefully we'll
34:43have him
34:44into custody
34:44tomorrow
34:45it's a very
34:46very important
34:46part of this
34:47investigation
34:57the next day
34:59the team
35:00scours the city
35:01for Noah Christman
35:05but as the first
35:0648 winds down
35:07he's nowhere
35:08to be found
35:21two weeks
35:22after Greg
35:23was killed
35:24what's the address
35:26fugitive warrants
35:27has a lead
35:28on Noah Christman
35:30okay cool
35:31I appreciate it
35:34Noah Christman
35:35aka Casper
35:36left town
35:37and was in
35:37Perry, Oklahoma
35:38with his girlfriend
35:39they got a tip
35:40that Noah
35:41is hiding out
35:42at his girlfriend's
35:43relative's house
35:44the fugitive warrants
35:45unit contacted
35:46the western district
35:47of Oklahoma
35:48U.S. Marshal Service
35:49and those deputies
35:51are going to go
35:51try to hit the house
35:52where they are now
35:53and try to get them
35:54in custody
35:5880 miles
35:59west of Tulsa
36:02Noah
36:03stop out now
36:04have you
36:05one more
36:06arrest
36:07U.S. Marshals
36:08and officers
36:09from Perry
36:09PD
36:10surround the house
36:14you're not going
36:15in here
36:17barricaded
36:17in the back room
36:18with nine
36:18military
36:21and
36:21have to get
36:22into the house
36:22come out
36:41come out
36:43hold up
36:48.
36:49Lay down, .
36:54All the way .
36:57Is there anybody else in the house?
36:59No, sir.
37:00I'm running a man on the side.
37:04You got it.
37:05You got it.
37:06Right here.
37:08Have a seat.
37:09Watch your head, shoot in.
37:12Watch your seat.
37:19they said that line millimeter semi-automatic gun was in the house
37:24we don't know if it's the gun that was used in this shooting so i'll have to wait on our
37:28ballistics to come back to do a match on that but they're going to be booking him into the
37:33noble county jail noah chrisman will be extradited back to tulsa so today is a good day for for this
37:49case three days later i've introduced myself and my father lauren and ryden talked to noah chrisman
37:59at the tulsa county jail tell me what happened all right they pull up and i go out there i'm
38:09talking
38:09to james lighter and boom he's showing me all when i'm getting stuff and i hand him this red pouch
38:17noah says he gave james lighter four thousand dollars in exchange for an envelope full of drugs
38:24i'm not no cap i did give james lighter some counterfeit money but admits that nearly half
38:31of the money he gave james was fake and as soon as i get into the fence james lighter says
38:38hey hold on
38:41and then kidding bro kidding and so i shot okay i wasn't even pointing really at him i was pointing
38:51at the front of his car i was just trying to get them to pull off and i ran into
38:58the house and i got
38:59my girl and she five months pregnant i told everybody i said get to the back now nobody wanted to
39:08listen
39:08everybody wanted to be like hey what the hell is going on why is someone shooting outside
39:12and i see gray trying to look out the door and that first or second round hit him right in
39:20his face
39:22and uh they killed him
39:26and uh it probably took them about 30 seconds before they fired into the house
39:34there was no reason they shouldn't have started firing into a dwelling of a residence
39:39i was not a threat to them at all after that point
39:43i agree with i agree with that
39:47i still don't be charged first degree murder in this
39:51yeah you guys have done a felony murder
39:53you did not kill anybody but you were participating in a commission of a felony
39:58and somebody lost their life
40:01except for the d.a figure out what's the justice sentence
40:04yeah and hey i'm completely okay with it i'm just like i just want to
40:08be able to see my kids
40:11you still got a chance for life
40:13all right
40:16okay thank you for being honest appreciate that
40:28noah confirmed everything that the two brothers chris and james lighter told me
40:33what was important is that he confirmed that that media threat was over with
40:36and they've recklessly found him to occupy dwelling
40:39he was honest about what he'd done and he was sorry about what he'd done
40:43because his friend greg doom has lost his life in the process
40:47but he's about to pay for it
40:49it was a senseless death
40:52greg wasn't doing anything
40:53he didn't he didn't deserve to go out like that
40:57good
41:05oh
41:22it's a sense for you
41:26and
41:30five months after greg was killed we're here to celebrate his birthday
41:41even though he's not here with us today we still want to keep his memory alive
41:46he lived a very productive life he did a lot of positive things and to be honest with you
41:53even right now it still ain't quite settled in that the fact that he's gone he's by the one of
42:00the best oldest brothers I've ever had I miss him and I'm still going through it to track
42:06the ground why this had to happen he was a great brother and I'm gonna miss him so much
42:23I'm glad we do something for him but I just really rather have my little brother here with me today
42:31he's in God's hands now I love you Greg he ain't never gonna be forgotten
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