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00:07Music
00:39Second episode, I would say three for Enzo Biaggi dedicated to organized crime
00:45We will see the historic interviews with the head of the Corlionese mafia
00:50Luciano Leggio, known as Liggio, the man who raised Totò Riina and Bernardo Provenzano
00:57And the head of the new organized Camorra, Raffaele Cutolo
01:02Cosa Nostra needs to launder dirty money
01:06And here comes the Sicilian banker Michele Sindona into the picture.
01:11Met several times by Biaggi, the last time on the eve of his death in Voghera prison
01:20The great journalist aired on Rai 1 towards the end of 1994
01:26With a program entitled Enzo Biaggi's investigations dedicated to the mafia
01:33Tinin Mantegazza, painter, illustrator, journalist, worked for years with Biaggi
01:40For the program he created the cards
01:43Let's look at the first brief history of organized crime
01:481820, the mafia was born in the central-western Sicilian countryside
01:53Armed wing guarding the barons' fiefdoms
01:561860, with the unification of Italy many things change
01:59Among these is the mafia that sets up its own business by extorting and intimidating
02:02The business is lucrative and is also developing in the cities
02:05In other regions and overseas
02:07The mafia changes its name
02:08It becomes Andrangheta in Calabria, Camorra in Campania, Manonera and then Cosa Nostra in America
02:13But it's always the same thing
02:161909, gangsterism in the United States became very strong
02:19A famous Italian-American policeman, Joe Petrosino, has an intuition
02:23There must be links between America and Sicily
02:26He goes to Palermo, investigates
02:27The intuition is right, but the mafia doesn't like it and kills him
02:321921, during fascism, Prefect Mori reduces the power of the Mafia
02:36But it fails to eliminate the organization entirely
02:401940, World War II, relations with the United States are forced to end
02:44But they will resume with the Allied landing in 1943
02:48In fact, the operation was prepared with the collaboration of gangsters of Sicilian origin.
02:53Promptly released and sent to the scene
02:56In the post-war period, in Sicily, there were those who thought of separating from Italy
03:00To make the island another United States
03:02The Mafia plays a role in the separatist movement
03:061947, the bloodthirsty bandit Salvatore Giuliano becomes the de facto leader of the separatist army
03:12And he massacres workers on May 1st, at the rally in Portella della Ginestra
03:17Politics evolves, separatism fails
03:20There are new interests to defend, Giuliano will be sacrificed
03:251970, with the drug boom, the profit becomes enormous
03:28And the list of killed magistrates, politicians and policemen grows longer
03:32From Cesare Teranova to Carlo Alberto dalla Chiesa
03:351980, the war between clans and subsequently the new laws on repentance
03:41They push some bosses to collaborate with justice
03:451992, they were massacred along with numerous civilians and police officers
03:50On May 23, magistrate Giovanni Falcone
03:52And on July 19th the other judge on the front line in the fight against organized crime
03:57Paolo Borsellino
04:02The Corleonesi won the second great mafia war in the early 1980s
04:09Defeating Cosa Nostra in Palermo
04:17Good evening, we are able to give you the first images of the terrifying attack
04:22With the Corleone clan at the top, the season of attacks on the State begins
04:28Which culminates in the massacres of 1992 and 1993
04:33Tottori Ina's mark on the attacks is tangible
04:39First he is lieutenant with Bernardo Provenzano by Luciano Liggio
04:44Then with the blessing of the latter he becomes the boss of bosses
04:51The history of the Corleonesi's power begins with Liggio
04:56When in 1958, after killing the local boss Michele Navarra, head of the hospital
05:05It extends to other areas of Sicily
05:08Enzo Biagi meets the Corleone boss sentenced to life in a maximum security prison.
05:16The first to investigate Liggio was from the church in 1948
05:21Then a young captain of the Carabinieri
05:24Indicting him for the murder of trade unionist Placido Rizzotto
05:29From the church he said of Liggio
05:31He is a criminal by constitution and tendency
05:36He is cunning, by nature he is distrustful and likes to live unnoticed.
05:42The transmission is direct line
05:44The interview will be broadcast in two episodes.
05:46Let's see the first one broadcast on March 20, 1989
05:52They called him the red primrose of Corleone but then they fished him out
05:56In the Badecaros penitentiary in Sardinia
05:59Luciano Liggio told us something about his story
06:02Who is Luciano Liggio according to his criminal record?
06:06And then who is he according to his testimony?
06:08Here is the first part of the interview with the director and Marcello Ugolini
06:12Luciano Liggio was born on January 6, 1925 in Corleone
06:17From a peasant family
06:18At 17 he is still illiterate
06:20The first complaint dates back to 1944, for illegal possession of weapons
06:24Three years later, at 22, he was accused of double homicide.
06:28There is no evidence, they acquit him
06:30In 1948 he was sentenced to one year and four months for theft.
06:34The same year he was charged with the murder of Placido Rizzotto
06:38Secretary of the Corleone Chamber of Labor
06:40During this period he began his period of hiding, which lasted 16 years.
06:44During which Judge Terranova, later assassinated
06:48He is accused of at least 8 murders and 9 attempted murders.
06:53Just for one of these, the murderer of the boss Michele Navarra
06:58Liggio is sentenced to life imprisonment on appeal
07:01But he doesn't end up in prison, acquitted in the first instance
07:05He's already back on the run
07:06It's 1970
07:08Four years later, he was arrested in Milan
07:11Where he passes himself off as a quiet wine merchant
07:14In 1987, at the Palermo maxi-trial
07:18The prosecution indicates him as the godfather of godfathers
07:21But he is acquitted
07:22He is now in the Nuoro super prison
07:24Where he is serving a life sentence for the Navarra murder
07:30Mr. Leggio or Mr. Liggio, which do you prefer?
07:34My last name is Leggio
07:36But for everyone I'm Mr. Liggio
07:38So much so that I am not using this Liggio as my stage name.
07:44She almost called me Liggio
07:47Listen Mr. Liggio, you once said
07:50I have a life sentence
07:51I read
07:52A 22-year sentence
07:53Another one at 6
07:55But there is no proof against me
07:57I never spoke
07:59I have never cheated
08:00They made Socrates drink hemlock
08:02I got jail time
08:03I was convicted of retaliation
08:06Have you always believed this?
08:08Yes, fully
08:09But I was luckier than Socrates
08:12I was no match for Socrates
08:14But at the same time luckier
08:16But they tried to make me drink it in small sips.
08:22The bitterness of life
08:23Why continue the prison
08:25It's a small dose of hemlock a day
08:27Listen, what is this hostility coming from?
08:31This persecution?
08:33But you should ask this to someone
08:38He has brought profit and advantages from this.
08:41However, what I understand is that
08:44Careers have been built behind my back
08:47To the unscrupulous Giambicatore
08:50They took advantage of this
08:53Of this myth that they created at the same time
08:57Why myth is useful
09:24Someone has defined the new face of the mafia
09:27What do you know about Cosa Nostra?
09:29Nothing
09:32And of this
09:33They also confirmed it
09:35The famous repentant Buscetta
09:38Saying he doesn't know me as
09:41As our friend
09:43Nor as a man have I
09:44According to the police
09:45The mafia power passed to her
09:47To Salvatore Reina
09:48Do you know this Reina?
09:50What type is he?
09:53First of all, I didn't have mafia power.
09:55To be left as an inheritance to no one
09:58I have never been
10:00And then
10:01I know this Reina
10:03It was in my cell
10:04In company
10:05For almost eight months
10:09She says
10:10What kind of boy is he?
10:12For me he is a good boy
10:13A very polite person
10:14And then
10:17He was anxious
10:18To create a future for yourself
10:20So much so that
10:24Both of them going out
10:25He came with me
10:27I wanted to start a company
10:28Why
10:29I saw him as an intelligence
10:31Truly
10:33Huge
10:34And I tried to
10:36Buying an estate
10:38The one in Bitondo
10:39And to make a company
10:40Between me
10:41He and the lawyer Mitolo
10:43To create
10:44At that time
10:45A great one
10:46Refrigerator
10:47Both for commercial use
10:49That for use
10:50Slice it to others
10:51But she believes it exists
10:53What is ours?
10:55But what I believe
10:56I do not believe
10:57It's no use
10:59If I have to rely on
11:00About my experience
11:02I was considered
11:04Mafia boss
11:05Head of this
11:07And head of that
11:08And nothing is true
11:09I am nothing
11:10If I have to rely on
11:11About my experience
11:12Nothing exists
11:13Nothing
11:14If I have to rely on
11:15On the experience
11:16I'm a jerk
11:17If it exists then
11:19I do not know
11:19But you have an idea
11:21What is the mafia?
11:22In your opinion?
11:23Is this a reprehensible thing?
11:25Listen
11:27I
11:27My idea
11:29It's always been that way
11:31What am I talking about?
11:32About my experience
11:35She also talks about God
11:36Without ever having met him
11:37Certain
11:38But in my experience
11:40But in my experience
11:40Calling me a mafioso
11:42Always and continuously
11:43I don't think so.
11:45I have nothing
11:46To reproach myself
11:47Or of having done badly
11:48To whoever it is
11:50In my life
11:50Or to have taken advantage
11:52Of any challenge
11:54Whoever
11:54To try me
11:55Otherwise
11:56Of what I say
12:01Reading
12:02Various authors
12:03What do they have?
12:05Spoke
12:06On this word
12:06Mafia
12:07Oh mafia
12:07And making up for it
12:10Al Petré
12:10Which is one of the
12:11Great cultivators
12:13Of the ancient language
12:14Sicilian
12:15Mafia
12:16It had to be
12:17A word of beauty
12:18Like beauty
12:21Not just physics
12:22But also beauty
12:23As spirituality
12:24In the sense
12:26What a beautiful woman wants
12:27Let's say
12:27But what a mafioso
12:28It's a beauty
12:30If so
12:31She doesn't get offended
12:32If I say the mafioso
12:33I don't take offense
12:34Not only
12:35Simply
12:36It pains me
12:36What I believe
12:36I do not have
12:38All that
12:38Spiritual dryness
12:40And physics
12:41To be so
12:43A mafioso
12:44In short
12:44Of being a mafioso
12:45In the sense
12:46Beauty of the word
12:47In his opinion
12:48The mafia doesn't exist
12:49What the newspapers talk about
12:50And the judges
12:51So why do so many people die?
12:53Eh
12:54This must
12:54Ask him to excuse me
12:56To those who kill him
12:57To me
12:58What is the pentatic?
12:59And the magician
12:59Of the sense
13:00But she will have an idea
13:01Why don't many more die?
13:03In Tuscany
13:04Or in Emilia
13:05As I was saying
13:07I don't have the mentality
13:08Of the investigator
13:09So I'm not going to the union
13:12Why me
13:13Because there isn't
13:14There is no
13:16What can I tell you?
13:17We are hot-blooded people
13:19There's all this
13:20Yes
13:20People who maybe
13:21In other places
13:22One thing closes
13:23With a fistfight
13:24And that's where it ends.
13:25With the body
13:27You could turn to
13:28But more than this
13:30What I would like the fingers
13:32Judge Terranova
13:34He felt hated by her
13:35He ended up killed
13:37But then she went to court
13:38He was acquitted
13:39But you see
13:40That Judge Terranova
13:42With the verascio
13:43That is, how it came about
13:44One of his
13:44He felt hated
13:48I do not know
13:49Because I can't be
13:51To the right of the others
13:52But I didn't hate him
13:54This is the point
13:54That's not what he
13:56It felt
13:57But what I
13:59If anything
13:59I felt for him
14:01I felt for him
14:02Simply
14:03A commiseration
14:05If he wants
14:06Why me
14:07I noticed right away
14:08Immediately
14:09When we have
14:11A little friction
14:12In the act of interrogation
14:13That I was
14:14In front of a sick person
14:18Then nobody
14:19He notices it
14:20If behind the various
14:22State Desks
14:24There are psychopaths
14:26It's not my fault
14:29It's because
14:30They don't visit us
14:31Adequate
14:32To these people
14:34Before entrusting ourselves
14:35An office
14:37Concio
14:39I have always had
14:40The maximum
14:40Siguardo
14:42Even for the judge
14:43It's not at all
14:44It's not true at all
14:44That I hated him
14:45Naturally
14:46It's not like he could do it
14:46Pleasure
14:47What he did
14:48In the month look
14:49But this
14:49He has nothing
14:50What to see
14:51With the fact
14:51To kill him
14:52Or rather
14:55The interview
14:57The interview
14:58He was very embittered
14:59The Judge's Widow
15:00Cesare Teranova
15:02Killed on September 25
15:041979
15:06Together with the marshal
15:09Lenin Mancuso
15:10Liggio had been accused
15:13Later acquitted
15:14Due to lack of evidence
15:16Of being the instigator
15:18Of the murders
15:19Mrs. Giovanna
15:20Which he esteemed
15:21Very Biaggi
15:23He would have wanted to
15:24From the journalist
15:25A firm reply
15:27To the words
15:27Infamous
15:28By Liggio
15:29In comparisons
15:30Of the magistrate
15:31Enzo Biaggi
15:32That same evening
15:34He replied
15:35Before the broadcast
15:36Of the second part
15:38About the interview
15:40To the mafia boss
15:41Good evening
15:42The interview
15:43With Luciano Liggio
15:44It was seen
15:44For over 6 million
15:45Of spectators
15:46Who can judge
15:48And it has raised
15:49Even negative reviews
15:50Like that
15:51Of the lady
15:52Giovanna Terranova
15:53Widow of the magistrate
15:54Killed
15:55With the Marshal
15:56Of the police
15:56Lenin Mancuso
15:58From Cosa Nostra
15:59Of the crime
16:00He was charged
16:01Luciano Liggio
16:02I understand and agree
16:03Human reactions
16:04Of pain
16:05From Mrs. Terranova
16:06And of the son
16:07Of the Marshal
16:08Mancuso
16:09But I believe
16:10That you don't even touch
16:11To the families of the victims
16:12Establish that
16:13Which is right
16:14Or not right
16:15Making it on television
16:16In this field
16:17Their opinion
16:18It's no longer valid
16:19Of that
16:19Of any other
16:20Citizen
16:21I insist
16:22I share the pain
16:23From Mrs. Terranova
16:24A pity he has already expressed
16:26Even when
16:27Colleagues
16:27Of her husband
16:28They acquitted
16:29Luciano Liggio
16:30Due to insufficiency
16:30Of evidence
16:31But that would be ridiculous
16:33That a journalist
16:34Discuss the claims
16:36Even aberrant
16:37Of a man
16:38Already convicted
16:38To life imprisonment
16:39His speeches
16:40I am a confirmation
16:41About psychology
16:42And some techniques
16:43Of Cosa Nostra
16:44I think that
16:45I think the interview
16:46Liggio
16:46It explains much more
16:47Things of many wise men
16:49And of many speeches
16:54It's true that his battle
16:56It started with the doctor
16:57Michael Navarra
16:58Great Elector
16:59Of the liberals
17:00Then the Christian Democrats
17:01Boss of Cosa Nostra
17:03That in Corleone
17:04It represented power
17:05And he ended up riddled with bullets
17:06There is a terrible photograph
17:08The one about the machine
17:10I don't care
17:11These things
17:12They will go to do
17:13The photographers
17:13I don't care
17:16If it is photography
17:17I can tell you one thing
17:19I knew Navarra
17:21He wasn't the doctor
17:22Of our family
17:25Doctor Navarra
17:26To me it was a professional book
17:27After death
17:28The people
17:28It comes easy
17:29Lots of mascarzone
17:31They make it become
17:32A figure
17:32The dead man
17:33I don't like it
17:35On the dead
17:36It stretches out
17:37A veil of mercy
17:38And so I am
17:39Also kept for the appearance
17:40And the dead
17:41To say well
17:42Doctor Navarra
17:44So what can I say?
17:45I can say this
17:46Doctor Navarra
17:49In her opinion
17:50Who killed him?
17:51At that time
17:51This
17:53You see
17:53She was a good girl
17:54In his opinion
17:55He was a good person
17:56Hand
17:57He can know this.
17:58If he was good
17:59If he wasn't good
18:00As for me
18:01Yes
18:01He was good
18:02Then his things
18:04I don't know them
18:05Now
18:07Now I'll tell you more
18:08And I know
18:09Even
18:09Who had him killed?
18:11I never said that
18:12Do I say it?
18:13But no
18:14I don't say it
18:15I am not at service
18:16Of the police
18:17Not in service
18:18Of no one
18:19The honest person
18:20It must be done
18:21His business
18:21Then if the police
18:23He believed
18:24From
18:25Accuse me
18:26Or to have me give it
18:27A life sentence
18:28To the soul
18:29Who did it?
18:30I don't do it
18:31The names
18:32Of no one
18:33Because I am not
18:34Obliged to do
18:34The policeman
18:35For no reason at all
18:36To the world
18:37Listen
18:38She knows nothing about it
18:39At that time
18:40Of whoever got killed
18:41The trade unionist
18:41Placido Rizzotto
18:43This too
18:43It is attributed to her
18:44All right
18:45It doesn't matter
18:45Which he attributed to me
18:46To me
18:47They are attributed to me
18:47Many things
18:48This
18:49What's easier?
18:51This proves
18:52That I was not
18:53So powerful
18:54As they want you to believe
18:56Why differently?
18:57They would be looked at carefully
18:58To accuse me
18:59All these things
19:00That I would take revenge
19:01Not having the possibilities
19:03At that time
19:04I represented us
19:05In a low wall
19:06Where everyone
19:07They could set up
19:08And here's what they did
19:10All these
19:12Shameless accusations
19:14How did they do it?
19:15To fish it out
19:16To find her
19:17Someone betrayed him
19:19He knows it
19:19No
19:20But I don't think so.
19:21I know
19:22What do I want to tell you?
19:23Then
19:24I
19:26I had the misfortune
19:28To enter
19:29Almost at dawn
19:30Of this family
19:31So it could
19:32If anyone
19:32I saw it
19:33Not
19:35Known
19:35To her
19:36They are attributed
19:37Also
19:39Seizures
19:39What are they doing?
19:40These days
19:41They would be
19:41Of his disciples
19:43Let's call them that
19:45But you see
19:46This is slander
19:47More
19:48Tetra
19:49And more petty
19:49And low
19:50That it can be done
19:51In my sequel
19:54I don't know
19:55If now
19:55Second time ago
19:56It happened
20:00In a restaurant
20:02From Milan
20:02Call
20:03The Witch
20:04It seems to me
20:05If it is not
20:05The Witch
20:06Seven crimes
20:07They killed
20:08Everyone
20:11And I found myself
20:12In Rome
20:13In Rome
20:13There is an Argentine
20:14He told me
20:15I read
20:15The Argentine newspaper
20:16Talk about her
20:17But who is saying?
20:19He says yes
20:20She
20:20Sing
20:20Smuggler
20:21About drugs
20:22Sing
20:22In Argentina
20:39Here you are
20:39I read
20:41I read the article
20:41Who is
20:42Rewritten
20:42Of a certain
20:43Pagnoz
20:43Little loaf
20:44One thing requested
20:45Who was he then?
20:46Commissioner
20:46View
20:47In Milan
20:47And that I was
20:49Smuggler
20:49Now
20:49In front of
20:51To these slanders
20:52To these infamous
20:53So petty
20:53How can he do it?
20:54A poor man
20:56Wretched
20:57To defend himself
20:58All over the world
20:58If the type
20:59He didn't tell me anything
20:59I wouldn't have known anything
21:00Not even that he was attending
21:01Halfworld
21:02With everyone
21:03Which is displeasing
21:05The journalists
21:06To certain people
21:07Of doing journalism
21:08Which are not then
21:09Not even journalists
21:10And to slander
21:11The next one
21:12As
21:12All over the world
21:13That I am responsible
21:14Of seven crimes
21:15I am responsible
21:16And then
21:17He's going to see nothing
21:18But she
21:19Of some sin
21:20He pleads guilty
21:21But I never said
21:23But I never said
21:24Of being a saint
21:25AND
21:27It would be absurd
21:28Thinking he's a saint
21:29I'm not a saint
21:30And if another
21:31He tries to step on my toes
21:32I don't like
21:35And if I can
21:35And when you feel bad about it
21:37What does he do?
21:38Nothing
21:39I don't like
21:39I tell her to stop it
21:41That not
21:41I don't accept it
21:43This speech
21:44What if it doesn't stop?
21:44And if it doesn't stop
21:45I'll give him his
21:46It's normal
21:47Or what does he say?
21:48Let's get it done
21:49And go on, what do you do?
21:50What he says
21:51Jesus Christ
21:51If I slap someone
21:52He puts the other one in
21:53Another thing like this
21:54And to the cheek where
21:55You don't know I
21:56If I had to turn my cheek
21:57Always for nothing
21:57Who dies
21:58To have a slap
21:58How much cheek
21:59I should have had
22:00For all these
22:02Molluscs
22:03Who believe
22:04Of becoming men
22:06Pooping on me
22:08Because the majority
22:10Of these
22:10That is hounding me
22:11I am
22:12The Last Ring
22:13Muddy
22:42Of the company
22:44It's something else
22:45What did the Seveso do?
22:47For them it's opportunism
22:49To have done
22:49It's something else
22:50But it's opportunism
22:53Wrong
22:54Because when they leave
22:55A world
22:55Where the good children
22:56They must die
22:57But what opportunism is this?
23:27From the Sicilian Mafia
23:28In Naples
23:29Russians in Afghanistan
23:31Of comeini in Tehran
23:33Cutolo's family
23:35He had defeated
23:37All the others
23:38Of the Camorra
23:39Inside the prison
23:40Cutolo was
23:41Nicknamed
23:42Oh professor
23:44Why it mattered
23:45More than the minister
23:46Of justice
23:47He had it transferred
23:49Prisoners
23:50And marshals
23:51He used it freely
23:53The switchboard
23:54To order
23:55Matches
23:56Of narcotics
23:57Let's see the interview
24:02Always current
24:03Raffaele Cutolo
24:04Don Raffaele
24:05For fellow villagers
24:06Of Octavian
24:07Or for the poor of Naples
24:08That they consider it
24:09A benefactor
24:10Inside since 1963
24:12The cell
24:13It was his school
24:14He started his career
24:15Killing a young man
24:16That was annoying
24:17His girlfriend
24:18He put together
24:19A small army
24:20Of devotees
24:21It is considered
24:22The principal
24:23Of hundreds
24:24Of executions
24:25Among the fallen
24:26The Bandit
24:26Francis Turatello
24:27To which Pasquale Barra
24:29He even tore
24:29The viscera
24:30Pasquale Barra
24:32He is one of the repentants
24:32Who have accused
24:33Enzo Tortora
24:34Just yesterday
24:35The public prosecutor
24:36Of the court
24:37On appeal
24:37He asked
24:38For Raffaele Cutolo
24:39The confirmation
24:40Of the sentence
24:41Already pronounced
24:41In the first degree
24:42In the proceedings
24:43Against the new
24:44Organized Camorra
24:4513 years old
24:46Of imprisonment
24:47This interview
24:48It has been recorded
24:49In a classroom
24:49Of the court
24:50From Naples
24:51The recovery
24:52It's from Mary Magdalene Ion
24:53Mr. Cutolo
24:54If she stands here
24:55I think
24:55We can
24:56Get started now
24:57His son
24:58He wants to come
24:59It is not
25:00Lugadatto
25:02It is not
25:02Of stretches
25:03To accomplish
25:03I'm glad to hear it
25:04To speak
25:05Let's talk
25:06With
25:06A man
25:07Who is not afraid
25:07To have courage
25:09Let's talk with complete peace of mind
25:11This is his son
25:14Good morning
25:14What
25:15What a future he wishes for
25:16His son
25:16Mr. Cutolo
25:17It came to me
25:18What they had
25:19All honest fathers
25:20Anyway
25:21I already have to understand it
25:22In here
25:23With the nascendamello
25:24Listen, Mr. Cutolo.
25:25How many years has passed?
25:26In prison
25:2723
25:28For sure
25:28But there are 23
25:2923
25:30And the prison
25:32Did it change something?
25:33In her?
25:34No, I'm always the same
25:36I'm always the same
25:38I have to say that
25:40Getting Made in Italy
25:40Things were better
25:41When things were worse
25:42Listen, Mr. Cutolo.
25:43She predicted
25:44His death
25:45At 49 years old
25:47How many more are missing?
25:48It's been 5 years
25:495 years
25:505 more
25:51And is there any other prophecy?
25:54What does it involve?
25:56Me for the 70 years ago
25:57That the slopes came out
25:58They came out
25:58These false slopes
25:59Among other things
26:00Let's say you're hanging around
26:02Created here in Naples
26:04Then he also predicted
26:05An eruption of Vesuvius?
26:06Yes
26:06And now
26:08What do you have in sight?
26:09I don't repeat myself
26:10I would like to talk
26:11With her
26:11But be careful
26:12She was alive to me
26:13I don't repeat myself
26:14Once again
26:15They didn't give me permission
26:18Let's be content in the meantime
26:19Of what is possible
26:20Listen, Mr. Cutolo.
26:21She presumably
26:22He is a rich man
26:23He owns a castle
26:25With 350 rooms
26:26It is true?
26:27They are the idiots
26:27What they say unfortunately
26:28The press
26:29Oh no
26:29It's Dr. Perez
26:30Anyway
26:31I was rich
26:3220 years ago
26:33Then I gave it to her
26:34Lots of money
26:36And to what?
26:37For my ideal
26:37To always favor
26:38Humanity
26:39We would not even suffer
26:40And his fortune
26:42What was it born from?
26:43I don't ask myself
26:44A fortune
26:44Well have a castle
26:45With 350 rooms
26:47It is not true
26:47It's not mine
26:48Among other things
26:48It's not mine
26:49They were born there
26:49In this castle
26:51It's not mine
26:51So it was born
26:52A lucky one?
26:53No
26:54I am proud
26:54Of being children
26:55Of fellow citizens
26:56Because she teaches me
26:57Which does not have
26:58Never eaten
26:59The bread of pain
27:00And that I have never
27:01Longed for
27:02Once
27:02Longed for the morning
27:03He can't understand
27:04The drama of humanity
27:05We would not even suffer
27:06There were nine expert reports
27:08What did they say?
27:09That she
27:09It's not normal
27:10Or am I wrong?
27:11It is not true
27:12And they're crazy
27:13If then
27:13Having these ideas
27:15It means being crazy
27:16I also accept this label
27:17If then
27:18Because all great men
27:19Like Nietzsche
27:20They say she's crazy
27:21But she doesn't identify herself
27:23With Jesus Christ
27:24With Buddha
27:24With Mohammed
27:25What does this have in common?
27:26With these characters?
27:28I think we have
27:29The same ideals
27:30In the sense that
27:30It's not like
27:31Jesus was a very great man
27:33At that time
27:34But also Jesus
27:35At that time
27:35What would it be like now?
27:37Now like many others
27:39But she
27:40Jesus did not know how to suffer
27:41Among other things
27:42Thirty three years
27:43He could have died
27:44On the cross
27:44He said I couldn't take it anymore
27:46And why she
27:47Do you want to die at 49?
27:48It is precisely because this life
27:51The further you go, the more you go on
27:52It stinks more
27:53Let's put it this way
27:53The higher you go
27:54The more you smell the stench
27:56It's a phrase of his
27:57Or did they attribute it to him?
27:59After turning the cheek
28:01It is permitted to kill
28:03Yes
28:03Because it is an interpretation
28:04Jesus said
28:05That one must turn the other cheek
28:06But he didn't say the meaning.
28:08And here he said it
28:09Like many other things
28:11What did he teach?
28:12To his son
28:13A young man who today
28:14He is 24 years old
28:15I always kept him away
28:16For other things
28:17The road to work
28:19First of all
28:19But you see
28:20This would be a long argument.
28:22Why young people
28:22It must be taught
28:23That the road to work
28:24It's better to go to work
28:26What to steal
28:26That love is better
28:27Which is logical
28:28Which is more beautiful
28:28Forgive
28:29Which is to condemn
28:30But they have to teach us that.
28:31But this company
28:32But this society today
28:33He can do everything
28:33Except justice
28:34Except teaching
28:35These things
28:35What part did he play?
28:37His sister Rosetta
28:38In his life
28:40An important part
28:41But only
28:41Only he is innocent of everything
28:43Let's say that
28:43It can only be
28:45Was plagiarized
28:47Another of his thoughts
28:49My favorite flowers
28:51They are orchids
28:52But often
28:53I love sending chrysanthemums
28:55He made many orders
28:58And for whom?
29:00You see
29:00The chrysanthemums
29:01They must be sent
29:01At the right time
29:03I didn't send it to you
29:04I didn't send it
29:05Because for me
29:05It's true justice
29:06What justice doesn't do
29:10Mr. Cuttolo
29:10Who is she according to you?
29:11A Camorrista?
29:13Let's say
29:14A life choice
29:15It's not that
29:15The Camorrista
29:16Because it's a label
29:17What is given?
29:17The Camorrista
29:18I never said never
29:19That there was this new Camorra
29:21Anyway
29:21For me
29:22Let's say it was a party
29:23It's one of my ideals
29:26And Camorra
29:27What does it mean?
29:27Unemployment
29:28It's not teaching
29:30Your own region
29:31That work is more beautiful
29:31But they also have to prove it to him.
29:35What do you think about drugs?
29:37I have always been against it
29:38With concrete facts
29:39Not just with nice words
29:41That I wrote in a poem
29:42With drugs
29:43With the real white
29:44What idea did you get?
29:46Of the repentants
29:47And some old friends
29:48Like Pandico
29:49Bar
29:50And so on
29:51See Pandico
29:52He wasn't a friend of mine
29:54Among other things, the repentants
29:55They don't exist
29:56They are false repentants
29:57Let's say they are really created
29:59So Neapolitans
30:00Mostly
30:02A poor thing
30:03They too
30:03In the sense
30:04I was jousted
30:05From these young magistrates
30:06To get to try to power
30:08They make you say a lot of things
30:10I dissociated myself
30:12I don't understand it
30:12For me
30:13More than the repentant
30:13It's another one
30:15This is what I want to ask
30:16Also to the president
30:17There are those who consider it
30:18Even a benefactor
30:19What did he do?
30:20For his next
30:21I have done a lot
30:23I have always given away
30:24A smile
30:24To those who needed me
30:28What is the relationship?
30:29With Octavian
30:30The country where he was born
30:31The country that gave me
30:32My Christmases
30:33I was proud
30:34And Octavian
30:36It's not just
30:36The country of the Camorra
30:37As they say
30:38The country of professionals
30:39A country let's say
30:40Like many others
30:43He would have a recipe
30:44Outside the floral tributes
30:46To solve
30:47Naples' problems?
30:48There would still be
30:49Why the company
30:51These politicians
30:51Who govern us
30:52They should be
30:53More just
30:54And they should be
30:56First them in peace
30:57If they want that
30:57We are at peace
30:58In essence
31:00What is your day like?
31:02Of a prisoner?
31:03I write, I read anyway
31:05It is thought
31:06Because it's absurd
31:10But I can take it all
31:11With dignity
31:12I'm sorry about my son
31:14May the best youth
31:15In recent times
31:16He's in prison
31:16On behalf of these
31:17False repentants
31:18She is considered
31:20The principal
31:20Of hundreds
31:21Of murders
31:22Among the victims
31:24There would also be
31:25Francis Toratello
31:26Why are they missing?
31:27The evidence
31:28Of these crimes?
31:29It's absurd
31:30They say
31:31That this is the association
31:32Verticista
31:32That everything
31:33I would have done it
31:34Because it's not all absurd
31:35I did it
31:36That's not what they pay me
31:36I'm not a samba stingo
31:37I made you cry
31:39How I did wrong
31:41But to those who wanted to hurt me
31:42And to those who wanted to make me cry
31:44She certainly has her own idea of life.
31:47What is it?
31:50To help poor Gemini
31:53First of all
31:53Because this way there is no more crime
31:55And what about death?
31:57Death must be accepted
31:59Who is a friend to you?
32:01A friend is the most beautiful thing
32:03What can exist?
32:04You can confide things
32:06All things in life
32:08Unfortunately today
32:09Friendship is a rare thing
32:11And who is an enemy?
32:13I respect more
32:15A loyal enemy
32:16Than having an enemy
32:17Which then we don't know
32:18If he is an enemy
32:19Among other things
32:20What is the charge?
32:22Or the gesture
32:22That they offend her more?
32:24The slanders
32:25And these are the ones who feed the sales
32:28Are you afraid of something, Mr. Cutolo?
32:31Not at all
32:31What is the dream?
32:33What does she do most often?
32:35Seeing a better society
32:39Is there any kind of relationship?
32:40Between the Mafia and the Camorra?
32:42But I don't know
32:43If she talks about the Camorra
32:44Which they attribute to Cutolo
32:47For me it was never Camorra
32:48For me it's an ideal of life
32:50I repeat it
32:51Then the Camorra
32:52The mafia anthrax
32:53And something else entirely
32:54But the mafia is in Rome
32:56The Camorra is in Rome
32:57The real Camorra
32:58He is in Rome
32:59Who knows me here
33:01Thank you
33:04The large criminal organizations
33:06They dominate in some southern regions
33:09Their economic power
33:11It's gigantic
33:12An indirect proof
33:13It comes from the amount of seized assets
33:16Conspicuous figures
33:17But they don't make much of a dent.
33:19Their strength
33:20The seized money
33:22In the 1990s
33:231992
33:241993
33:251994
33:26I am
33:27To the Camorra
33:292 billion and 368 million
33:32To Cosa Nostra
33:342 billion and 367 million
33:37To the Andrangheta
33:391 billion and 209 million
33:42At the Sacred Crown
33:4479 million
34:14Fiat in 1993
34:15Industrial enterprises and government bonds
34:18Organized crime
34:21Organized crime
34:36Lawyer Michele Sindona
34:38It plays an important part
34:40Nicknamed the Sicilian Iceman
34:44His banks were also used to launder money
34:48About the Italian-American mobster John Gambino
34:51Among his friends
34:53Among his closest friends
34:54Those of Licio Gelli and his P2
34:56And Giulio Andreotti
34:58Let's see how Biaggi introduced Sindona
35:02For the broadcast Proibito on air
35:05August 8, 1977
35:09Michele Sindona, Sicilian, 58 years old
35:12In 1946 he left the island and arrived in Milan
35:15In a short time he was considered the most skilled and sought-after tax expert in the city.
35:20Many of his clients want him as a partner in their business.
35:23Sindona becomes rich
35:25His prodigious career began in the early 60s
35:29Takes control of the Union Bank
35:31Shortly after the general real estate giant
35:33In 1970 he attempted a great feat
35:36The purchase of the power plant, the second largest Italian financial institution
35:39And with a public offering to Bastoggi shareholders
35:42The most important one
35:43He has some politicians against the economic world and he can't
35:46He goes to America where he secures control of Franklin
35:50Twenty-First Bank of the United States and Talcott
35:52A large company specializing in financing
35:56In Italy, it has started a program of merger of the private sector with Banca Unione
36:00Which will give life to a private Italian company with around a thousand billion in deposits
36:04He rules an empire
36:06He plans to transform Finambro into a financial force
36:10But it meets the clear position of their Treasury Minister Ugo Lamalfa
36:15Meanwhile in America Franklin begins to report difficulties
36:19Following the discovery of losses of over $40 million
36:22For mysterious currency transactions
36:25Its Italian banks and companies are experiencing exchange losses
36:29He asks for 100 million dollars from the Banco di Roma
36:32When it seems that the loan will go through
36:34In exchange for a sale of its banking institutions
36:36The Italian private company is placed into compulsory liquidation
36:39October 4, 1974
36:43An arrest warrant has been issued against Michele Sindona.
36:46The man who had become the Vatican's trusted man
36:48The partner of the great English bankers
36:50The ruler of the Italian stock market
36:53Preview of the interview is prohibited.
36:57It's the resumption of the first contact between Biagia and Sindona
37:01It is important because it helps us understand the work of the great journalist
37:06His determination
37:08His authority which allowed him to speak to everyone
37:13But above all the respect that Biagia had for the person she was speaking to.
37:18Be he a saint or a murderer
37:21As he always told his editorial staff
37:24At the start of a new program
37:27We can have friends
37:29The show is no one's friend
37:32Since that's the case, they are technical accusations in a certain sense.
37:36Because if she says she's wasting the money
37:38I have to explain why I didn't distract
37:39Yes but she says I didn't distract them because
37:41Here it is, things, things, things.
37:44Certain
37:45In the simplest terms possible
37:47I don't even care
37:48There's a little story about the one who explained the human body
37:51To medical and law students
37:55At the same time for those of law
37:57He should have come down to more correct arguments.
38:00Here we will try to do it like this
38:01Proibito Biaggi creates it in collaboration
38:06Of his dearest friend Giuseppe Pardieri
38:10Bolognese journalist who followed him to Milan
38:13In the adventure of the era in the early 50s
38:17Essayist Pardieri directed women's weeklies
38:22Among these joy
38:23Together they will make TV for 30 years
38:27Yeah, you know I'll always be your slave
38:42Ah good morning I would like to speak to the lawyer Sindona
38:45Who's speaking?
38:46Enzo Biaggi
38:47At the?
38:48Ah good morning I'm Biaggi
38:50Oh good morning
38:50How are you?
38:51Good thanks to her
38:52Let's move on
38:53Listen, lawyer, then allow us to agree.
38:56For registration of questions
38:57Yes
38:58And as I told you
38:59You are obviously completely free
39:01To give all the answers he wants
39:03Yes
39:03And I ask all the questions I think
39:05Naturally
39:06Obviously if she involves other people
39:09Yes
39:09And these will have the right to respond
39:11Yes
39:12It should also be clarified that this program
39:14It is not a judicial investigation
39:16No, of course.
39:16So we try to explain things to people.
39:20That people don't know or don't understand
39:22Listen, but I wanted to tell you
39:23And then something more serious
39:26Before I got involved with her
39:28I wanted to tell you
39:28She came with the same purpose
39:31Which they had set themselves on the occasion of their trip to New York
39:34Deputy Public Prosecutor
39:37Viola and the judge are all stealing
39:39That is, to demystify me
39:41And the term used by them when they granted a convention
39:45I don't create myths and I don't dismantle them either.
39:48I mean, she created her own myth.
39:50Aside from the contribution of these judges
39:53I don't think I have
39:53And then this isn't even my job
39:55For me it's that she seems very big
39:57Or that it turns out small
39:59But this is a consideration
40:00That's what I wanted to know.
40:01I don't care at all
40:02She tells me she can ask all the questions
40:05I tell her that for me
40:07And I can truly confirm this.
40:08There is no possibility of asking me indiscreet questions
40:12That is, there are no prying questions.
40:14You can ask me whatever you want
40:18The program is broadcast live from an American TV studio
40:23Sindona has an arrest warrant in Italy
40:27In the studio with Biagi there are the correspondents
40:31Of the most important Italian newspapers
40:34Who will ask the banker questions during the broadcast
40:38Let's look at a song together
40:40Lawyer Sindona, I think it is appropriate
40:43Explain to Italian listeners
40:46Why we do this program here
40:48And we don't do it in Rome or Milan instead
40:51When I came to America
40:55I came for a carefully considered choice
41:00Which then became mandatory
41:03Which then became mandatory
41:05I'll explain to you why later.
41:08I thought
41:10Of having to clarify my position
41:14In the face of Franklin's failure
41:17After certain dear Italian enemies
41:20They had spread the word
41:22Of the very serious rumours
41:25Against me
41:27To speak in economic terms
41:29On the American market
41:34So I needed to defend
41:36I had to do it as a free citizen
41:38As a free man
41:39I needed to be able to view documents
41:42Something I couldn't do in Italy
41:44I couldn't even do it
41:46As regards Italian operations
41:49Why were my documents seized?
41:50And very democratically they were not made available
41:54So I repeat
41:55They have been to America
41:56To be able to control everything that had happened
41:59To be able to document what I had done
42:02And the results
42:05I think they are known to everyone in America
42:07And since I see that
42:09Many of the journalists present live here
42:13Saying that they saw
42:18From the news spread
42:19Officially, regularly, seriously
42:22That my name never appeared
42:27Not among the pendents
42:29And neither among the suspects
42:31Are there any pending proceedings for her?
42:36Here in this country
42:37There is an arrest warrant in Italy
42:40There are a few things that still need to be figured out here.
42:43She didn't have to give
42:44A practical guarantee
42:47Economical
42:48Who promises not to go out
42:50My bail
42:51That is my guarantee
42:52It was given exclusively
42:55For the Italian arrest warrant
42:58Which led to an extradition process
43:01My guarantee has been given
43:04At the request of the Italian authorities
43:07She didn't like the definition
43:09That Bernard Baruch
43:10Who was a notable figure in finance
43:12He gave of himself
43:12He said he was a speculator
43:14She considered herself an economic operator
43:17An investment banker
43:19On his business card now
43:20What did he write?
43:22What I've always written
43:23Michael Sindone
43:24A name that is a guarantee
43:26A name that I thought was a guarantee
43:29Towards savers
43:30Towards my friends
43:32Who followed me in my endeavors
43:34Towards small shareholders
43:36Towards everyone
43:39I tell you at this point
43:40I'm in America for this very reason.
43:43To defend myself
43:44From the unjust Italian accusations
43:48Not so much and only for me
43:50How much because I want to show all these people
43:52Who believed in me
43:53That they were not wrong when I believed
43:58This is the history of RAI
44:00And television
44:07Life imprisonment for Michele Sindone
44:09He is the instigator of the assassination of the lawyer Ambrosoli
44:12March 18, 1986
44:15Michele Sindone is sentenced to life imprisonment
44:18As the instigator of the murder
44:21Occurred on July 11, 1979
44:24By the lawyer Giorgio Ambrosoli
44:27Liquidator appointed
44:30From the Governor of the Bank of Italy Guido Carli
44:34Of the financial activities of Sindone
44:37Biagi interviewed him on the same day of his sentencing
44:41For the spot broadcast in the Voghera prison
44:44The great journalist was the last to visit him
44:55Good evening, Shroud in an irreversible coma
44:58After the life sentence two days ago
45:01March 20th
45:02Like every morning
45:04The officers who were keeping a close eye on him
45:06They brought him coffee
45:08After drinking it
45:10He collapsed on the floor screaming
45:12They poisoned me
45:14Two days later he died
45:15Adding to so many dark pages
45:19Even the mystery of his end
45:22Good evening
45:23Today at noon
45:24The Assize Court of Milan
45:26Finding him guilty
45:28He sentenced to life imprisonment
45:31The financier Michele Sindone
45:32Considered the principal and the person responsible
45:36On the assassination of lawyer Giorgio Ambrosoli
45:39Judicial liquidator of a failing private bank
45:44Of the overly enterprising Sicilian businessman
45:47Shroud is held in the women's ward
45:51About the super prison of Voghera
45:53He is 66 years old
45:54Lawyer Ambrosoli was killed on the evening of July 11, 1979.
45:59Three shots to the chest
46:01One after the other
46:02Exploded from a magnum
46:04A voice called him
46:06It's me, he replied.
46:07He didn't even have time
46:09To glimpse the killer's face
46:11Maybe he didn't even realize he was dying.
46:15Perpetrator of the crime
46:16William Joseph Haricot
46:18Criminal at the service of the mafia
46:20Italian-American
46:21Compensation $50,000 in cash
46:25Haricot died in a fall
46:27From a window of the penitentiary
46:30Fifth floor
46:32They talked about an escape attempt
46:34This is my fifth interview with Sindone
46:38The first in New York
46:39When he was president of Franklin Bank
46:42The second one in a studio in the same city
46:45In a television studio
46:46When he was staying at the Pierre
46:48And he still counted on making it.
46:50The third in Otisville Penitentiary
46:53In America
46:54The fourth in Springfield Prison
46:57Always in the USA
46:59This is the last one today
47:01Which was recorded an hour ago
47:05And that somehow
47:07At least for now
47:08A sad story ends
47:10Lawyer Shroud
47:11Who gave you the news of the sentence?
47:15The prison
47:16Very kindly
47:17I had asked her to give it to me
47:19Because I had a visit
47:20My granddaughters from New York
47:21So I wanted to know
47:22I was interested in my daughter
47:24Not for me
47:25And did you expect a verdict like this?
47:29So total?
47:30So definitive?
47:31I'll watch you until the last moment
47:33I thought that people
47:34Had a certain
47:35So he should be ashamed of doing so
47:37Such grave injustices
47:38There are no shames
47:39They did it very well
47:4125 years in America
47:43And life imprisonment in Italy
47:45Does it change any perspective?
47:47No absolutely nothing
47:48This was a satisfaction
47:49That they wanted to take
47:50I came to ask for justice
47:52They wanted to do this
47:53I didn't care at all
47:54In fact we told him
47:55At the court
47:56If you have to justify
47:58Many years of expenses
48:00So much advertising
48:01And you want to condemn me
48:03You condemn yourselves
48:04If you want to do justice instead
48:05Don't condemn me
48:06For me, one year
48:0725
48:07I don't care about my age
48:08Who was the lawyer Borosoli for you?
48:11One I didn't know at all
48:13And that when I had to attack
48:14I regularly attacked him
48:15In all the newspapers
48:16By writing to him directly
48:18As per my habit
48:19Then she knows
48:19That when I have things to say
48:21I tell you
48:21I never mince words
48:23Of all the accusations
48:25Which were addressed to her
48:27There are some
48:28Which do you consider legitimate?
48:29No
48:30In this process
48:31And not even in the
48:31In all its activities
48:33Something
48:34It didn't go well
48:35Or not?
48:36Excuse me
48:36Charges of crimes
48:38I have always rejected them
48:39Everyone
48:40So rejected
48:40Doctor Biaggi
48:42And she is sacred
48:43That maybe one day
48:44I sent her
48:44Which I refused
48:45In America
48:46And I forgive the President
48:47I was told
48:48If it was excessive pride
48:49And I said no
48:49That was a fight for justice
48:51Why I want a new trial
48:53Why did they hide?
48:54The documents
48:54Which I have now found
48:55She doesn't have to apologize to anyone
48:57Or forgive someone?
48:58I ask for forgiveness
48:59To my family
49:00And to the good Lord
49:00At this moment
49:02She can contact anyone
49:04He has something to say
49:05To his family?
49:06To my family
49:07My family members
49:08I ask for forgiveness
49:09For all problems
49:10The concerns
49:11The pains
49:12That if not through fault
49:14Surely
49:14Because of me
49:15They had to suppress
49:16And they continue to suffer
49:18And to his next
49:19Do you have anything to say?
49:21But to my next
49:21To all friends
49:22Who were close to me
49:23And that they were punished
49:25They too
49:25It's my fault
49:26Because any friend
49:28He was bringing me closer
49:29May he be punished
49:29I tell you
49:30Look
49:30An emblematic fact
49:31Documented
49:32An American witness
49:34He made a clear statement
49:37Saying
49:37Mr.
49:39Arico
49:39Who is the killer of Ambrosolo?
49:40He told me
49:41That he had killed Ambrosolo
49:44Which was believed
49:46That it had been a shroud
49:47And he didn't deny it.
49:48But it had not been a shroud
49:49But it was convenient for him
49:50Why could he get this?
49:51But the serious thing is this
49:53This
49:55This gentleman
49:56He was called
49:58In the New York Attorney's Office
50:00From three Italian magistrates
50:02Who threatened him
50:04Telling him
50:05That he should have
50:07To clarify
50:07His affidavit
50:09And it's worth it
50:09Doctor Carli
50:10It was a statement
50:11With which
50:12Excuse me
50:14Doctor Piagge
50:15No nothing
50:16Excuse me
50:16Ninth
50:17I believe
50:18Nothing
50:18A fact
50:19A fact
50:19A fact
50:20A fact
50:20A fact
50:20It was banned
50:24It has been ordered
50:26To withdraw
50:26The affidavit
50:28And for two years
50:29Not to come to Italy
50:29Because they don't want to
50:30Let him introduce it
50:31Not even at the
50:31Race
50:32Excuse me
50:33Lawyer
50:33There have been
50:34In history
50:35So many mistakes
50:36Judicial
50:37But she thinks
50:38That three free judges
50:40Which are called
50:41To issue a sentence
50:42They have something
50:43Against her
50:45Of personal
50:46Of resentful
50:47Absolutely not.
50:47They are afraid
50:48Whose
50:49Whose
50:50Including you
50:51Press
50:51Excuse me
50:52But for the love of God
50:53But fear
50:54Her
50:54About me
50:55Absolutely not.
50:55Who's afraid of me?
50:56Nobody is afraid of me
50:58There is no one
50:59To which she
51:00Do you feel like asking?
51:01Pardon
51:02Oh sorry
51:02For what there may have been
51:04In his life
51:04All those
51:05To which I
51:06I created
51:07Some problems
51:08Always
51:09I have to consider
51:10Always in good faith
51:11Unintentionally
51:11Listen
51:13In summary
51:13The lifer
51:16Because this is the sentence
51:17Michele Sindona
51:18Who is
51:18Ultimately
51:19Michele Sindona
51:21I'm not that monster
51:22What they want
51:23I am that man
51:24That they want me
51:24To make a monster be considered
51:26Listen
51:27Travel lot
51:28I'll tell you something
51:28Look how you get there
51:30In these processes
51:31They have been exploited
51:33Please note
51:33Even the tears
51:36In the
51:38Final review
51:39The public prosecutor
51:40He started crying
51:41I don't know where he got the onions
51:43And I said
51:44That
51:45In this tragic event
51:48Only two people
51:49Maybe they had
51:50The right to cry
51:51And it was poor Mrs. Ambrosoli
51:53For the loss of her husband
51:54In such a tragic way
51:55And my wife
51:56For
51:57All the persecutions
52:00Infamous
52:00Made my family suffer
52:02My wife does it
52:03Locked in the house
52:04Praying
52:04And she doesn't?
52:06Do you have nothing to cry about?
52:08I want to cry
52:08For my family
52:09And what about Michele Sindona?
52:11For Michele Sindona
52:12Victim or condemned?
52:13Nothing?
52:13Absolutely not.
52:14I have my own inner life
52:16Given Biaggi
52:17I am never afraid of dying
52:19I also wrote
52:20Given the other
52:20And to her
52:21I'm waiting
52:22I await the passing
52:23With enormous serenity
52:24Because I believe
52:25Someone made fun of me
52:26But I believe
52:27In eternal life
52:27And yes I truly believe it
52:28I feel fine
52:29To my conscience
52:30Without absolutely
52:31Here's why
52:32These sentences
52:33Excuse me
52:34It's serious
52:35They don't make me laugh
52:35Serious
52:36As a person
52:36The next episode
52:42From Rai 3
52:43For Enzo Biaggi
52:44It is dedicated
52:45To the celebrities
52:46From Pavarotti
52:47To the scientist
52:48Albert Sebin
52:50From the friend
52:51Montanelli
52:52To Sofia Loren
52:53From Pasolini
52:54To Monica Vitti
52:55And others
52:56Others
52:57More still
52:58From the friend
53:06But
53:06Thanks for watching!
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