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Late Night with Seth Meyers - Season 13 - Episode 06: Kenan Thompson, Carrie Coon
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00:14To be continued...
00:30All right, this is a late night. We hope you're doing well.
00:31And now, if you don't mind, we're going to get to the news.
00:34President Trump, over the weekend,
00:35visited his dentist in Florida.
00:37It was just a standard checkup.
00:39He got a cleaning, a fluoride treatment,
00:41and another cognitive test.
00:44That's right. President Trump visited his dentist in Florida.
00:47A Florida dentist, or as it's also known, a toothpick.
00:53President Trump traveled to Detroit today
00:55as part of his affordability tour.
00:57Tickets start at $500 apiece.
01:00The White House tweeted a graphic over the weekend
01:02of Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
01:05that said, quote,
01:06We are ending the war on protein.
01:09Finally.
01:11Finally.
01:13We can all say marry protein again.
01:17That's right. The White House tweeted a graphic
01:19of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. that said, quote,
01:21We are ending the war on protein.
01:23Are you also ending the war on light bulbs?
01:27Seriously, do we not have a brighter photo of this guy?
01:30Oh, God. No, no, no. That's right.
01:31Turn him off. Turn him off.
01:33The fast food chain Burger King has begun offering
01:36the bacon cheddar hash whopper, which features a beef patty,
01:40bacon, an egg patty, cheddar cheese sauce, hash browns,
01:44and hollandaise aioli.
01:45But be warned, it's so greasy that if you dab it with a paper towel,
01:50it disappears.
01:53And finally, the Florida DMV recently released its list
01:56of rejected custom license plates, which includes sex,
01:59because they saw his car and they knew he wasn't having any.
02:04And that was a monologue, everybody!
02:08We got a great show for you tonight.
02:10She's a legendary comedian, fantastic actress,
02:13you know from Bridesmaids, MacGruber, and Saturday Night Live.
02:16Currently, she's starring in Palm Royale,
02:17whose second season finale premieres Wednesday on Apple TV.
02:21Our friend Kristen Wiig is here, everybody!
02:25You've seen him in Squid Game and movies such as K-pop,
02:28Demon Hunters, and The Magnificent Seven.
02:30He stars in an excellent new film, No Other Choice,
02:33which is in theaters now.
02:34Lee Byung-hun will also be joining us in his very funny
02:39stand-up special, Yes Ma'am, is streaming on Hulu now.
02:42Jay Jordan is also dropping by.
02:46But before we get to all that, everybody,
02:48White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt
02:51has been holding a lot of press briefings lately,
02:53but there are still a lot of questions
02:55about what this administration has been doing
02:57that are unanswered.
02:58So we decided to hold another one right here, right now.
03:01That's right, Press Secretary Levitt
03:02and the late-night press corps are here in the studio,
03:04ready to go.
03:05It's time for another late-night White House press briefing.
03:22Yes, yes, thank you.
03:23Seth Meyers, late-night with Seth Meyers.
03:26Caroline, how would you describe attacking a country
03:29like Venezuela under false pretenses
03:31to get access to their oil reserves?
03:34One of America's greatest traditions.
03:39President Trump claims he hardly knew Jeffrey Epstein.
03:42How many photos of the two of them together
03:44did you find in the Epstein files?
03:47There were only 30,367.
03:53What do you think is currently the biggest threat
03:55to the United States?
03:56China, Russia, terrorism?
03:58Young people transitioning.
04:02What happened to Trump that one time
04:04he tried to do a workout?
04:06Pain for 43 days in a row.
04:10Hey, why do you think people get so excited
04:14to see their cousins over the holidays?
04:17They are bringing illegal narcotics.
04:19All right.
04:21What's Marco Rubio's role during cabinet meetings?
04:24Basically just sitting.
04:28What's the scariest movie you saw last year?
04:31President Trump's cardiovascular imaging.
04:33Oh, wow.
04:34That sounds terrifying.
04:36Is it true they're coming out with an even scarier sequel?
04:39His abdominal imaging.
04:43What is Jared Kushner hoping to accomplish this year?
04:47Adulthood.
04:50What does Trump think the name of the Federal Reserve chair is?
04:55Jack inflation.
05:00What does Trump eat when he wants a light snack?
05:02200 chips.
05:04Hey, hey, I got a riddle for you.
05:06You ready for my riddle?
05:09Where's the best place to kiss a geometry teacher?
05:13On the ellipse.
05:17You got it.
05:21Has the, uh...
05:23Caroline, has the White House ever had any ghosts living in it?
05:27Joe Biden was here.
05:30Let's say you're at the Olive Garden, right?
05:32You got that big basket of breadsticks in front of you,
05:34but nothing to dip them in.
05:36But at the empty table next to you,
05:38there's a full bottle of olive oil.
05:40It's just sitting there.
05:42Do you grab it?
05:43There is a legal process for the seizure of that oil,
05:45and that legal process will be followed.
05:49What's J.D. Vance's catchphrase in cabinet meetings?
05:52I think you guys are sort of not listening.
05:57Movie trivia time.
05:58Who said the following quote?
05:59I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass,
06:02and I'm all out of bubblegum.
06:03Jesus Christ.
06:04Oh.
06:06You're way off, but I would totally watch that movie.
06:10Caroline, where's the best place to hide a bag of giblets?
06:15In Turkey.
06:18I have a question about affordability.
06:20How much if I want to add a side of guacamole?
06:23An extra $1,000.
06:26What did you say when Dirk Diggler finally showed his wang
06:29in Boogie Nights?
06:30I laughed out loud because it's very clear it's a fake.
06:35What do you call it when Blackpink feuds with BTS?
06:39South Korean beef.
06:42During a typical cabinet meeting,
06:44how many strokes does President Trump have?
06:46One or two.
06:48Who's that tiny bearded fella perched on the White House lawn?
06:52You know, white beard, you know, pointy red hat.
06:55He's about yay tall.
06:56Secretary Noem.
07:00Caroline, you're a Bible person.
07:02Who ate from the tree of knowledge,
07:04causing humanity's fall from grace?
07:06The Biden administration was responsible for the original sin.
07:13How would you describe sex to your kids
07:15without using any dirty words?
07:17There's a lot of private sector engagement.
07:21What's Marco Rubio's jacket size?
07:23Ten short...
07:24Complete this famous Shakespeare quote.
07:28This fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars.
07:31It is entirely the fault of the Democrat Party.
07:35Close enough.
07:39If you were my stylist, would you do anything with my hair color?
07:42I would be remiss if I didn't highlight.
07:46And finally, what did Trump do when he saw that
07:49Sidney Sweeney American Eagle ad?
07:51Jacked it up.
07:53Well, it looks like we're out of time.
07:55So, on behalf of the rest of the White House,
07:57Cress Cork will be right back.
07:59Have a good night.
07:59We'll be right back with Kristen Wiig.
08:18Our first guest tonight is an Emmy and Academy Award-nominated actress,
08:22writer, and comedian.
08:23You know from Bridesmaids, MacGruber, Barb and Star,
08:25go to Vista Del Mar and Saturday Night Live.
08:27She stars in Palm Royale. The season two finale premieres Wednesday on Apple TV.
08:32Let's take a look.
08:34Linda is free and has found love again, while I am here, divorced, and stuck with my ex-husband.
08:39She's just cranky because she hasn't gotten laid.
08:41Oh, and you have? Because that's not what I'm hearing.
08:44We are here because she gave my ancestral home to a literal mobster.
08:51The only reason I did that was so Pinky wouldn't kill you.
08:54I don't need protection, Maxine. Stop protecting me.
08:58Maybe if you would have used protection with my manicurist,
09:00we wouldn't be here in the first place.
09:02It always comes back to that.
09:04Y'all need to work this s*** out.
09:06Please welcome back to the show our very good friend, Kristen Wiig, everybody!
09:32I'm so happy to see you.
09:34I'm so happy to see you.
09:35But I'm very lucky because I get to see you a little bit off, out of showbiz.
09:38Yes. I get to see you socially.
09:40And yet, I feel like my family has put a small burden on you.
09:43What?
09:43Which is we request that you are in charge of, like, games.
09:47Which I don't mind.
09:48You don't mind.
09:49But, like, I just lest anybody think you're bringing any basic games.
09:52Like, let's do charades.
09:54Oh, no, I like to make them up.
09:55You make a brand new game up every time you come over.
09:58Yes.
09:58Now, we played...
09:59We were here once. You were on the show.
10:00We played Under the Blanket.
10:01Which is my favorite game.
10:03Under the Blanket.
10:04It's the best game in the world.
10:05When you pitch Under the Blanket to people, they do think you're, like, trying to...
10:11It's a sex game.
10:12It's a sex game.
10:14It's not.
10:14It's not a sex game.
10:15What happens with Under the Blanket is four people leave the room, and then one of them
10:18puts a blanket over them.
10:20And then they just, like, crawl in the room, like a little...
10:23Well, yeah, you can split the room up however many people.
10:25And you say, like, crawl in with a blanket covering you.
10:29And then the other group of people has to guess who is crawling under the blanket.
10:34It is the funniest game.
10:36Yeah.
10:37You just laugh because you think you know who it is.
10:39And you're watching this person crawl.
10:41And they're laughing and, like...
10:42And you can give them instruction.
10:43You'll be, like, shuffled back and forth.
10:45Yeah.
10:45And then you, like, think you know who it is.
10:47And then it's so funny because you'll see a blanket go like this.
10:49And you're like, oh, it's not who I thought.
10:50Yep.
10:52Seth wouldn't do that.
10:53You brought a game this summer.
10:55I remember you also, like, you did work on this.
10:57Like, you came...
10:58Well, your mother-in-law...
11:01Yeah.
11:02...Joe was having a party, dinner.
11:05And Alexei had told me, you're in charge of games.
11:07Yeah.
11:07I got very excited.
11:09Yeah.
11:09I showed up with Ziploc bags full of written...
11:14Prompts.
11:14Prompts, like pieces of paper.
11:16You had a bag that was all the letters of the alphabet.
11:19Okay.
11:19And another bag that was prompts.
11:21So I remember you, like, pulled out and it was, like, a wizard.
11:25Mm-hmm.
11:25And then the other one was a letter.
11:27Oh, right.
11:27Like, so, like, F. And you had to name either a wizard from fiction
11:32or just make up a wizard's name.
11:34Yeah.
11:35And then the room had to decide if, like, that was an okay wizard name.
11:38Like, by the way, almost everybody won every round.
11:40Well, yeah, there's no...
11:42There aren't a lot of, like, points or winners with my game.
11:45But my 9-year-old was sitting next to me, and he got...
11:46The wizard thing came up, and he's like, oh, I hope I get H.
11:51You know what I mean?
11:51And I'm like, don't stress out about it.
11:53He's like, or D. Like, he's immediately going through the...
11:55Yeah, yeah, yeah.
11:55He's like, how many wizards do I know?
11:57But we did one.
11:59It was your birthday.
12:01Yes.
12:02And it was out...
12:02Your whole thing, it was outdoors.
12:04We were having dinner outside.
12:05Uh-huh.
12:06And you came up with this game where two people would go,
12:08and they would come up with a scenario.
12:10Yes.
12:11And then they would go out and wordlessly mime the scenario.
12:14And then we had to guess what was happening with these two people.
12:18But I remember the first...
12:20You and Will Forte did the first one,
12:21and we watched you act it out for, like, nine minutes.
12:24That tracks back.
12:26And we're yelling things out.
12:27And then when it was over, it was like,
12:29these are two people who haven't seen each other in three years
12:32seeing each other at a grocery store.
12:35And then one of them remembering the other one owes them money.
12:40So imagine being, like, a little drunk
12:42and watching Wig and Forte, like, do this.
12:43And then we're backstage kind of like,
12:45okay, so you'll be over there.
12:46And then I'm going to walk over.
12:47And it's all like...
12:51Like, how would anyone guess that they...
12:54I remember I was doing one with somebody
12:55where it was like two bank robbers
12:57realize they're robbing a bank at the same time.
13:01And, like, we were, like, definitely so drunk
13:03that we thought somebody would be like,
13:04two bank robbers, but they're, like, nobody.
13:06Why isn't anyone getting these?
13:08They all devolved into, like,
13:10everybody being a little bit frustrated.
13:11Yes.
13:12But it's great.
13:13You're a game master, and it's really appreciated.
13:15It's very fun.
13:15Yeah.
13:16You love a game.
13:17And you always have.
13:18I do. I do.
13:19It brings people together.
13:20Um, you know what else brought people together?
13:22Look, this is one of my best transitions of the year.
13:24What?
13:25SNL 50 brought people together.
13:26It really did.
13:31And you...
13:32I was wondering if you, um, felt you opened the show.
13:37Yes.
13:37And were you so happy to get it out of the way?
13:39I mean, there's, like, a pressure to starting.
13:41But then it's also, like, so nice to them be able to be an audience member.
13:44And I just wanted to enjoy everything.
13:46Because there were so many different rehearsals happening at different times.
13:49You saw...
13:50You didn't...
13:50You were seeing it for the first time.
13:51Yes.
13:52The night of the show.
13:52That was so fun.
13:54You also, uh...
13:55I sat two seats away from John Lovitz, who, uh...
13:58When I was growing up, was probably my favorite person on the show.
14:01And he...
14:02Was he your first...
14:03This is true, the first celebrity sighting you had when you moved to L.A.?
14:06Well, technically, my first was Joey Botafucco.
14:10Oh, well, that's pretty good.
14:11Yes.
14:12Yeah.
14:12Um, technically.
14:15I saw him in a CVS.
14:17I was like, it's Joey Botafucco.
14:18Um, I worked in a restaurant.
14:21It was a hot dog, uh...
14:23Don't you laugh.
14:26It was in Beverly Hills.
14:28And it was a gourmet hot dog restaurant.
14:32Which is...
14:33Was that your vibe there?
14:34When you brought over the hot dog, you were like, don't you laugh at me.
14:37Yes. Yes.
14:38I'm gonna make it big one day.
14:40Use your napkin.
14:41Use your napkin.
14:41This is Beverly Hills.
14:44Um, and...
14:44Anyway, I was behind the counter, and...
14:47And John Lovitz came in, and he had just bought a camera,
14:51and he was, like, looking at all the...
14:52And I was just, like, talking with him and serving him hot dogs.
14:56And I was like, this is the best day of my life.
14:58Yeah.
14:58He was, like, like, hero.
15:00Yeah.
15:00So funny.
15:01Also, I think he's incapable of not being John Lovitz,
15:03which is a really rewarding thing.
15:05Yeah.
15:05Yeah.
15:05So you get everything.
15:06You get the full Lovitz every time you have any actual Lovitz.
15:09Yes, yes.
15:10How...
15:10You have twins.
15:11They're six years old.
15:12Yes.
15:13How are they?
15:13They are amazing.
15:15They're six.
15:16They are six.
15:19If...
15:19That's, like, 12.
15:21Six is a...
15:22It's great, because they're getting to be more,
15:25you know, independent, obviously.
15:27But they're getting a little, like, rebellious a little bit.
15:30They've discovered, like, swear words and things,
15:34which, you know, you think it's like they say it, you know,
15:38like, and then they, like, laugh.
15:40Yeah.
15:41But my son is fully, like, you can bleep this, right?
15:44Yeah.
15:45He's just like, where are my shoes?
15:52And I'm like, where are you get...
15:55Oh.
15:56Right.
15:57That's not on Paw Patrol.
15:59You famously...
16:01You famously never knew where your shoes were.
16:03No, no.
16:04I dropped the F-bomb.
16:05Yeah.
16:05Chance I can.
16:06I was doing a word puzzle with Axel the other day,
16:09and it was, like, this thing where it was a sentence and a blank
16:11and two choices.
16:12And it was like, I went to the blank to take a swim.
16:15And it was either...
16:16It was, like, lake or boot.
16:18Uh-huh.
16:19And he's like, oh, I know it.
16:20And I'm like, so...
16:21And I have this moment as a parent of, like, look at him.
16:22He's learning.
16:24He's confident.
16:25Yeah.
16:26He knows.
16:26And the speed.
16:27And then I look, and he just wrote...
16:31And then he, like, looked up at me, and he's like...
16:34It's hard not to laugh.
16:35It's hard not to laugh.
16:36Because you're like, don't say that.
16:40Congrats on Palm Royale.
16:42It's such a wonderful show.
16:43Thank you so much.
16:44It's a wonderful cast.
16:45Oh, yes.
16:46Every time I talk to anybody who works on the show,
16:48I feel like it's a lot of people who have worked on a great many things,
16:51and they have a real appreciation for being with a cast of people
16:53that are kind and talented.
16:55It's a love fest over there.
16:56I'm not kidding.
16:57It's great.
16:58It's really great.
16:58It's great.
16:59Do you...
16:59Obviously, this is a, you know, a period comedy.
17:03Yes.
17:04Do you...
17:04Are there anything from the era that you have to, like, adapt
17:07that you're, like, surprised?
17:08Like, etiquette things?
17:10I mean, you were supposed to sit like this.
17:13Like, ankles crossed.
17:14Okay.
17:15I didn't...
17:15I mean, that's not very interesting.
17:18But it's...
17:19Slow down!
17:20Wait a minute!
17:22Slow down!
17:23No, but I...
17:24You know, you generally sit, and then you cross your leg.
17:26And I had to, like, that was not...
17:27Yeah.
17:27That was not the thing you had to...
17:28There was a...
17:29Tell your friends.
17:31Tell your time-traveling friends.
17:33Tell your...
17:33Well, they know.
17:34Oh, right.
17:34They know.
17:35Well, no.
17:36People from here who are time-traveling back.
17:38But if they're from back there...
17:39Oh, if they time-travel here, yeah.
17:40And they come here, they're like, psst.
17:41What's she doing?
17:43Oh, you think...
17:44I'm thinking, okay...
17:45They come from the...
17:46They come from the past.
17:47Yeah, here.
17:48They come here.
17:48And they're looking at me right now, and they're like,
17:50look at her legs.
17:51That's so rude.
17:52But I would assume one of the first rules of time-traveling is,
17:55like, don't blow up your own spot by being like,
17:57what are you doing?
17:58You got to think.
18:00Because you're trying to be secret.
18:01The assumptions should be customs are going to change.
18:02I understand.
18:05Because here's the thing, Wig.
18:06You're in our...
18:07Keep all of this.
18:07Keep all of this.
18:08No, I'm just saying, like...
18:09Yes.
18:09You're in our, like, final two of who we're going to pick to time-travel.
18:12And so I need to know you're not just saying you understand.
18:14You understand.
18:15Oh, no, no, I understand.
18:15You can't go to the...
18:16If I send you 30 years of the future on, like, day one,
18:18you can't be like, flying cars!
18:20Like, you got to keep...
18:20No, no, no.
18:21I have to be like, there they are, there they are!
18:25All right, do you at your 30 years of the future,
18:28and I want you to just your...
18:30You go 30 years of the future, and you see a flying car,
18:32and then you're keeping your cool,
18:34but then you see a dog with a jet pack.
18:37Okay.
18:38Yeah.
18:43Okay.
18:52Do you, um...
18:54There's a very nice dance in the first episode of this season.
18:57I'm very happy to see you dancing all the time.
18:59Yeah, I like to do, I like to dance.
19:01Do you let the choreographer, like,
19:02basically tell you how to dance, or do you, Kristen Wiig, say,
19:05I've got some ideas?
19:07She, uh...
19:07Our choreographer, Brooke, is it just incredible?
19:10She had the whole thing worked out that I had to do
19:13with the other dancers, but then there were times
19:15where she said just, like, free form, and that was really fun.
19:19Okay.
19:20Yes.
19:21What's some of your free form?
19:22Let's just say...
19:22Well, you don't have to do it.
19:24I don't have to.
19:25Do this.
19:27Do...
19:28Be a person watching you free form,
19:31and let's see if we can guess what it looks like
19:33based on your reaction.
19:33Okay, okay.
19:48Yes.
19:49You also, a very fun twist.
19:50That was a nice way to get out of that.
19:52Oh, yeah, thank you very much.
19:53Escapability.
19:54Did you, um, you have a secret...
19:55There's a twist.
19:56Can I say the twist?
19:57Oh, I don't know what twist you're talking about.
19:58Well, first, you have a...
19:59On the show, you have a secret.
20:00Oh, yeah, that's fine.
20:01Secret twin sister.
20:02Yes.
20:03Are you excited to be...
20:05I mean, it feels like a dream role for you.
20:07Yeah, I weirdly have always wanted to do that.
20:10Yeah.
20:11Well, because, you know, some of those old shows,
20:14like Bewitched and, like, Brady Bunch,
20:16they always had the thing where, like,
20:18the actress just put on a dark wig and was like,
20:20Hey, I'm your cousin.
20:23Yeah.
20:23You know what I mean?
20:24And so we kind of embraced some of those things,
20:27and I got to play my twin, and it was really fun.
20:29Oh, my God.
20:29In real life, do you think you'd be excited
20:32if you found out you had a secret twin?
20:34Now?
20:34Like, if I found out?
20:35Yeah.
20:36Oh, interesting.
20:37I don't...
20:38I would have so many questions as to why she waited so long.
20:44In this hypothetical,
20:45you're not allowed to ask any questions.
20:46Are you still excited?
20:49Yes.
20:51She shows up, and she's like,
20:52I'm your secret twin.
20:53Yes.
20:54I feel like it'd be a lot of work.
20:55There's a lot of, like,
20:56Oh, okay.
20:57So then what happened?
20:58You'd have to, like, catch up for, like...
21:02I'm in my 50s.
21:03That's a lot of years to, like, catch up.
21:05You're sort of like...
21:06I love that I don't want to find out I have a twin,
21:07because it's going to be a lot of work for me to talk to her.
21:10Like, it's so funny.
21:11Like, you're an identical twin, and you're like,
21:13I don't want to do all this small talk.
21:15Yeah.
21:16Like, can we just start from here?
21:18You're like, I have a lot of friends.
21:21Can we just start from here?
21:22Let's just pretend like we just met.
21:24And, like, we'll get over the fact that we look the exact same.
21:26Exact same.
21:27Or we could just say, like, let's just not tell anyone.
21:30Yeah.
21:30And then you go your way.
21:31I got to be honest.
21:33She's here, and we are going to bring her out.
21:34But based on your reaction, we're not going to do it.
21:36You're just not enthusiastic enough about it.
21:39Congrats on another season of a great show.
21:41Thank you for being here, my friend.
22:09Welcome back, everybody.
22:10Our next guest is a Golden Globe-nominated actor.
22:13You know best from his work on Squid Game and movies such as K-pop Demon Hunters and The Magnificent
22:17Seven.
22:18He stars in No Other Choice, which is in theaters now.
22:21Let's take a look.
22:43I got the piano and the floor chair, the chair, the chair, the TV, the curtain, the carpet, all put
22:48on the table.
22:49I got all my racket.
22:50I'll go to tennis.
22:52I'll go to the tennis.
22:54I'll go to the dance school.
22:55You'll be off the issue.
22:56And you'll be off Netflix.
22:57Ah.
23:04Before I get to see this, you'll have to see it one more.
23:10Please welcome to the show, Lee Byung-Han, everybody!
23:33Welcome to the show!
23:34Thank you for having me.
23:35I'm very happy to have you.
23:37And you were at the Golden Globes.
23:38Oh, yeah.
23:40I just flew from L.A.
23:43And I couldn't have time to stop by the hotel.
23:47You came straight?
23:48Yeah.
23:49And I just brushed my teeth here.
23:51Wow!
23:53I mean, it means the world to us.
23:56Yeah.
23:57But still, I'm okay.
23:58I'm still handsome.
24:03Very much so.
24:06You were nominated for two different films.
24:11Sorry, excuse me.
24:12You were nominated for K-pop Demon Hunters.
24:14Yeah.
24:15I think people maybe have heard of K-pop Demon Hunters.
24:17And also, No Other Choice, which is very exciting.
24:20And this movie, No Other Choice, is a very dark film, but a very funny film.
24:26Yeah.
24:26And I'm wondering, when you read the script, did you see the comedy when you were reading it?
24:31Yes, of course.
24:33Not like former Park Chan-hook's movie, it was very humorous.
24:40And it's a black comedy.
24:42So I asked him, did you do it on purpose?
24:46And he said, yes.
24:49Acting-wise, the funnier, the better.
24:52So, okay.
24:53Okay.
24:54But I'm trying to follow the emotions of the character.
24:59If I try to, you know, make people laugh, then it's going to be so awkward.
25:06So I just follow the emotions.
25:08Because, right, you're not playing a person who is funny.
25:11But the situations are funny.
25:14And so I understand how that is a very different way to approach the acting.
25:19So, Park Chan-wook, your director, you worked together the first time 25 years ago.
25:24Yes.
25:25On a film I haven't seen, but it was, at the time, the highest grossing South Korean film ever made,
25:31right?
25:31When I first met him was actually right before JSA.
25:37This is joint security area?
25:38Joint security area.
25:39Yeah.
25:40That was the first time we worked together.
25:42But a couple of years ago, he, I was actually having a screen test with my other crew, with other
25:53movie.
25:53And the assistant director came over to me and he said, somebody's waiting out for me.
26:02So I said, okay.
26:03And then I went out and there's a guy with the script.
26:08And he was doing a ponytail and wearing weird jacket.
26:16And I didn't like that outfit.
26:19Yeah.
26:21So I instantly thought, maybe I'm not going to join that project.
26:27Yeah.
26:28Yeah, so I didn't.
26:30And then a couple of years later, he sent me a new script.
26:35That's JSA.
26:36And, um, but at the time, it was not that hopeful for the project because he just flopped two of
26:46his movies.
26:47And for me, too.
26:49I just flopped four of my movies.
26:52So it was, like, a failed actor and failed director.
26:58It was kind of miserable.
27:00Yeah.
27:01But after it released, it broke all the Korean cinema records.
27:08Wow.
27:08The box office records.
27:11And then, actually, we've been, you know, very close friends.
27:19We eat together.
27:21We drink together.
27:22We see often.
27:26And then, 25 years later, we finally reunite new project, No Other Choice.
27:34Did, is it true that he has a nickname for you?
27:38Yes.
27:40You know, I normally ask a lot of questions about the stories and about my character so that I could
27:47express to the audience, you know, right way.
27:54So I asked a lot.
27:56So he calls me Mr. Nag.
28:02Maybe I was very annoying.
28:04Yeah.
28:05How do you say it in Korean, Mr. Nag?
28:07Kochi-kochi.
28:08Yeah.
28:10I like the sound of that.
28:12I know some of them.
28:13Yeah.
28:13Kochi-kochi.
28:14There's no, I think, it's really hard to change to English.
28:20Do you think that's why he waited 25 years to work with you again?
28:26Yeah, probably.
28:28I ask a lot of questions.
28:30So maybe she didn't tell me that, but he gets a lot of ideas from that.
28:35Oh, that's good.
28:36But a long time ago, when we were shooting JSA, I say, if I say 10 ideas, then he didn't
28:46use that much, like one.
28:49But in this movie, No Other Choice, maybe nine out of 10, he used all of them.
28:58So I was happy, but at the same time, I was worried about that.
29:03Because if this movie has failed, then I can take all the responsibilities.
29:12Yeah.
29:12So, one day, I stopped making ideas.
29:19Yeah.
29:20I couldn't say anything.
29:21It's a trap.
29:22Yeah.
29:22Yeah.
29:22You ask a lot of questions.
29:24When you first heard about K-pop Demon Hunters, did you have a lot of questions about that?
29:30Yes, of course, because he was four or five years ago, they asked me to come to have a meeting.
29:39So I went to Sony and we started meeting for a few times.
29:45At the time, they didn't have any references and any drawing.
29:50So I only had to listen to the stories.
29:57And I was confused if I have to do it or not.
30:04But some moment, oh, I think I should do it.
30:09Because I have a kid, but they couldn't see most of my movies.
30:15Because, you know, all the movies I did was so violent.
30:19Yeah.
30:19Yeah, it's very violent.
30:21So I couldn't show my movies to my kids.
30:24So, okay, this is the one I can watch and enjoy with my kids.
30:30So I did it.
30:31And then when it opened, I watched it with my 10-year-old boy.
30:38Because I have a two-year-old girl, but she cannot watch this.
30:43So I only watched it with my son.
30:46And in the middle of the movie, he said,
30:53Okay, what's your character?
30:55So I said, I'm invisible.
30:59You cannot see me.
31:02And then he said, what?
31:06But still, how can I see your character?
31:11Do you see the fire?
31:13Yeah, here you go.
31:14That's the way you tried to tell your son that was you.
31:17Yeah, that's me.
31:20And then he said, okay, you're Daemon?
31:24So, yes, I'm Daemon King.
31:27And then, okay, then I hate Huntrix.
31:33I'm your side, okay?
31:34So I was so happy with that.
31:36But at the end of the movie, he said,
31:41Dad, I cannot vote for you.
31:47That's just a fake story.
31:49Just watch it.
31:50Yeah.
31:51I think it's very strong.
31:52He has strong character that, in the end,
31:54he had to root for Huntrix.
31:56Yeah, yeah.
31:57Hey, congrats on both films.
31:59Thank you for being here.
32:00What a wonderful conversation.
32:01Thank you very much.
32:02Leave me on Hunt, everyone.
32:04No other choices in theaters now.
32:05Stick around.
32:06Be right back at Jay Burton.
32:26Our next guest, a very funny comedian.
32:28His stand-up special, Yes Ma'am, is streaming on Hulu.
32:31Let's take a look.
32:32Everyone should understand, being progressive,
32:33it means that you're slowly but surely getting better.
32:37And every now and then, you have a thought
32:38that's kind of progressive and regressive at the same time.
32:42Here's one.
32:45I don't think you should be transphobic if you're old, right?
32:50Come on.
32:51You're a grandma with a mustache.
32:53You understand gender is tricky.
32:58Your pronouns are me-ma.
33:01Please welcome to the show, Jay Jordan, everybody.
33:16Welcome to the show, Jay.
33:17I'm so happy you're here.
33:18Thank you for having me.
33:19I'm very excited to be here.
33:20Huge fan.
33:21And thank you for having me on.
33:23Well, same here.
33:23We're big fans of yours.
33:24Very excited.
33:26Your special's great.
33:27You filmed it in New Orleans, right next door
33:28to where you grew up in Mississippi.
33:30Yes, I'm from Mississippi.
33:32Look, teeth.
33:33I got them.
33:34Shoes.
33:35They're cowboy boots, but...
33:36What were your early comedy influences
33:39growing up in Mississippi?
33:41It's so funny you ask,
33:42because one of my earliest comedy influences was SNL.
33:46Oh, wow.
33:47There you go.
33:47I have a theory.
33:50I do have a theory.
33:52I have a theory that SNL makes people gay.
33:54I think that SNL is a psy-op sent by the Canadian government
34:00via Lorne Michaels to lower the U.S. birth rate.
34:03Here's why.
34:04Okay.
34:04Here's why.
34:05Think about it.
34:07Young Seth Meyers, handsome.
34:09Jimmy Fallon, handsome.
34:10Okay.
34:11Beck Bennett, handsome.
34:13Andy Samberg, handsome.
34:14And then Tracy Morgan was...
34:17He was Brian Fellow.
34:18Yeah.
34:18He was a queer zoologist,
34:20and now I'm a gay comedian who tells animal jokes.
34:22Think about it.
34:23Gotcha.
34:24So you are, like, I mean, the blueprint...
34:26So it's your fault.
34:28I take credit.
34:29I take no fault.
34:31You talk about your mom in the special.
34:33She was at the taping.
34:35Yes.
34:35Does she often come and support you?
34:36She comes to the shows when I would go to stuff,
34:39like, down south.
34:39So she came to New Orleans.
34:40She loves comedy.
34:41She loves watching people react to my stuff.
34:44The funny thing about my mom is she's very involved in the church,
34:46and so every now and then she's like,
34:48what if you said this on stage?
34:49I'm like, that's just people's from church business.
34:52Like, you can't...
34:53I can't talk about their divorce.
34:56Mom, I don't know.
34:58So she just has, like, tailored material,
35:00but just for the people within her church community.
35:02She'll, like, call me up and be like,
35:03I don't think that's his baby.
35:04I'll be like, Mom, we can't...
35:05They don't know Jerome.
35:07Yeah.
35:08The amount of, like, work I'd have to do
35:10to set up Jerome for that payoff.
35:12Wait, does your mom do that?
35:14No, my mom is almost too giving an audience.
35:18Like, when she's in the audience, like,
35:20if a joke goes badly, she'll still laugh,
35:22and that's the saddest thing in the world.
35:24Yeah.
35:25When you only hear your mom.
35:27Yeah, yeah, yeah.
35:27Yeah.
35:28That's the equivalent of a, oh, he's trying.
35:30Come on.
35:31Bless his heart.
35:32Yeah.
35:32I get a lot of bless his heart laughs.
35:34Yeah, yeah.
35:34Every...
35:35Well, sometimes you also get,
35:36well, I thought it was very funny.
35:39You also joke about your husband.
35:42Yes.
35:43I joke about my wife a lot,
35:44and I'm wondering, what is your protocol?
35:46Do you clear stuff with him first?
35:48I usually, I try to work it out in the city at a show,
35:51either downtown or in Brooklyn,
35:52and I come and I say,
35:53hey, I'm telling this one joke about you.
35:54I think, there's one in the special that made it.
35:56So I have a joke about my husband.
35:57He recently came out to me.
35:59It's a little bit non-binary.
36:00He uses he, they pronouns,
36:01which means he usually feels like a boy,
36:03unless there's a bug in the house.
36:07And I did have to clear that one with him, they,
36:10and he enjoyed it.
36:12So, yeah.
36:12Do you, I, sometimes what I will do is,
36:14I will wait until the joke works before asking.
36:18Yeah, yeah, yeah.
36:19Because then I put her in the awful situation
36:21of, like, affecting my livelihood.
36:24Yeah, he's, so, I mean, one time,
36:27I remember I told, I told a joke about
36:28some fun bedroom activities,
36:30and he was like, maybe not that one.
36:31I was like, okay, so I'm going to tell that one again.
36:34That's usually how it works.
36:35But he's, he was very excited.
36:37He, he's excited that I'm here
36:38because you had a kind of story on this.
36:41Yeah, yeah, yeah.
36:42He was, oh, look.
36:43Oh.
36:44You're going to have to clean those chairs, right?
36:47Oh, my goodness.
36:48Yeah.
36:48Right?
36:49He was in this chair?
36:50He was in this chair.
36:51He's Russian on the show.
36:52And it makes me think of the first Russian man
36:55I met in New York City.
36:56Two words come to mind.
36:58Four skin.
36:59And that's, well, because it's cold, right?
37:03You've got to bundle up.
37:07I have a lot of follow-ups about that,
37:09but I want to get,
37:10but you had a theater background.
37:12MFA, BFA, you taught theater.
37:14Yes.
37:15So you kind of decided
37:16to do stand-up a little bit later.
37:18Yeah, well, to me,
37:19stand-up is just theater for homophobes.
37:21This is basically wicked.
37:25So I was always a person who, like,
37:28I kind of gravitated more towards comedic characters
37:31and comedic scenes,
37:31and my instructors, Rory Ledbetter,
37:33like Joe Turner Cantu,
37:34all of my college instructors,
37:36they're like,
37:37Jay, not everything has to be funny.
37:39And I go,
37:40but this is.
37:41And they go,
37:42no, this is Angels in America.
37:44And I go,
37:44oh, okay, yeah.
37:47Because of the AIDS.
37:48Did you feel like having that theater background,
37:51though, helped you
37:52when you first started doing open mics?
37:54Well, yeah,
37:54because I was already comfortable
37:56in front of people,
37:56comfortable in front of strangers.
37:57I was comfortable with silence.
37:59I was comfortable with kind of having a script
38:01and modifying that script
38:02and taking it
38:03and showing it in front of people
38:05because in theater school,
38:06you basically adjudicate
38:07and perform your scenes
38:08in front of your classmates
38:09who are just kind of other
38:11hungover college students.
38:12Yeah.
38:12So when you have, like,
38:14kind of upset comedians in front of you,
38:16like, this is the same.
38:17Yeah.
38:18So theater prepared me
38:19for open mics
38:19and for kind of performing
38:21in front of people now.
38:22And I would imagine, like,
38:23open mics,
38:24and, you know,
38:24that's a very raw way to perform,
38:26and especially in the
38:26New York City comedy scene,
38:28like, I bet it also, like,
38:30made you a little immune
38:31to, like, having a bad show
38:32because you probably have been
38:33through the worst of it.
38:34Oh, imagine trying to do, like,
38:36a very serious piece of theater
38:39on the Friday night
38:41before a big SEC game.
38:42No one, I mean, like,
38:44I'm performing at Ole Miss
38:45and the University of Alabama,
38:46and we're, like,
38:47kind of bleeding our hearts out,
38:48and they're like,
38:48I think the game starts tomorrow.
38:51So you're fine.
38:52Yeah, I'm fine.
38:53I think the last time
38:54I had, like, a true
38:55kind of, like, bomb
38:56that, like, affected me
38:57is that I was on the Upper West Side.
38:59I did a benefit show,
39:01a fundraiser for some older people
39:03on the Upper West Side
39:04who would have thumped,
39:04and so they fed them
39:07before I came on as a headliner,
39:08and these old people,
39:10they ate,
39:11and they didn't want
39:11to do anything else
39:12except for sleep, burp, and fart,
39:14and so I performed
39:16with a bunch of old people flatulence,
39:18and, yeah.
39:19And it's just nothing.
39:20It's nothing.
39:21I mean, it was something.
39:25Hey, I've got to let you go,
39:26but I also, as a fellow comic book fan,
39:29you wrote on Marvel's Voices No. 1.
39:32I did.
39:32And they gave you Storm.
39:35And Iceman.
39:36Very fun.
39:37Yeah, both gay characters.
39:39Iceman is gay
39:39because he came out in 2015.
39:40Storm is gay
39:41because before she does anything,
39:42she announces it.
39:44She's like,
39:45Mistress of the Elements.
39:46Okay, Aurora.
39:49Hey, congratulations.
39:50It's really lovely
39:51to have you to show with you guys.
39:52This is Jay Dern.
39:53Yes, man.
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40:35I want to thank my guest,
40:37Chris Rigg,
40:38Lee Biong,
40:38Jay Dern,
40:39everybody.
40:40Thanks for watching, everybody.
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