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Tribunal Justice - Season 3 - Episode 02: Whose Bike is it Anyway?
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00:00You are stalking him.
00:02I did not do that.
00:04Really?
00:04You committed a crime against him.
00:07The property damage, the rants in public,
00:11threatening to take away his children.
00:13He had blocked me on text and social media,
00:15had no way to contact him.
00:16He just doesn't want anything to do with you.
00:18Now on Tribunal Justice.
00:43Today's case was filed in Mojave, California.
00:46Yeah, this is case number 3001 on the count
00:49in the matter of Simpson versus Oliver.
00:52Thank you, Bert.
00:53You're welcome, Judge.
00:53Parties have been sworn in.
00:55You may be seated, ma'am.
00:56Have a seat, please.
00:57Ms. Simpson and Mr. Oliver,
00:59the two of you were in a three-year relationship,
01:02but you did not live together.
01:04And Ms. Simpson, you allege that the defendant
01:07bought your son a bike.
01:08He kept the bike at his home
01:10because you didn't have enough space.
01:12At one point, you gave him the bike for some repairs.
01:16He takes the bike to get it fixed.
01:19At some point shortly thereafter,
01:21the two of you break up.
01:22He does not return the bike.
01:23And you are suing him now
01:25for either the return of the bike, which is here,
01:27or for $383.89
01:31so you can buy your son a new bike.
01:34Mr. Oliver, you say this wasn't a gift to her son.
01:37It was a bike that you actually bought for your daughter.
01:40And so while he was allowed to use the bike,
01:43the bike was never a gift to him.
01:45And you maintain that you owe her nothing.
01:47This case is about so much more than just the bike.
01:50I've read the text messages, restraining orders,
01:54but you're suing for a bike and that's the legal issue.
01:57I'd like to take a look at the evidence
02:00that the plaintiff submitted.
02:01The plaintiff's video of her son riding the bike.
02:04May we see that, please?
02:08When was that taken, ma'am?
02:11Sorry, I don't know the exact date.
02:13They were opening a new freeway.
02:14So when they did a grand opening for the freeway,
02:16everyone could ride their bikes on it
02:18before it was open to the public for cars.
02:19Now I'd like to see the video that the defendant submitted
02:24of his daughter riding the bike.
02:31When was that video taken?
02:32That was pretty recently, about a month ago.
02:36After a lawsuit's filed,
02:37and there have been multiple allegations
02:39about who actually owns the bike.
02:42But I'd like to point out another piece of evidence.
02:44Can we please put up on the screen exhibit number three?
02:49Ma'am, just for the record,
02:50that is you saying to the defendant,
02:53thank you for getting Bray a new bike.
02:54Do you ever say, well, not so fast.
02:57It's not so much a gift.
02:58You know, you don't really clarify her on this point.
03:00You kind of let it go, yeah?
03:02Right, yeah.
03:02So actually, it's always been known,
03:05like, whenever anybody's at my house,
03:07they always have something extra to ride.
03:08I have lots of mountain bikes.
03:10And it's always been smart for me
03:12to buy one bike at a time,
03:14rather, two at a time,
03:16so that one could grow into it.
03:17How many children do you have?
03:19Two.
03:19It made it pretty clear
03:20that the bikes always stay at my house.
03:22These are for my children to grow into.
03:24I don't know that I saw that clarity.
03:26What was clear to me is that the bikes,
03:28at least this bike, was at your house.
03:30Correct.
03:31Because she didn't have room for it.
03:32And in fact, that became sort of a bone of contention.
03:35Like, I saw some of the relationship texts.
03:37Like, wasn't he upset
03:38that you were looking for a bigger place,
03:40and you thought you weren't serious about him?
03:41Yes.
03:42And so there was all of that drama.
03:44But here's the other drama.
03:46You became friends with the ex-wife,
03:47and he got really annoyed by that.
03:49I did.
03:50Yes.
03:50And I know that she submitted a statement,
03:53but she didn't want to show up
03:54because she didn't want to be a part of it.
03:56So just so you know, for my purposes,
03:57I'm not considering that statement.
03:59Because if you don't want to be a part of it,
04:01don't write something that an ex-husband
04:03can't challenge in court.
04:04Yes.
04:05But your position is you became friends
04:06with the kids that she shared with the defendant.
04:09So you guys hung out.
04:11Yeah.
04:11You say that she was hanging out with your ex
04:13to try to wrest information about you
04:15and your new life from your children.
04:17Yeah, it would bother you, too,
04:18if your kids didn't ask you any questions.
04:19Yeah, it would. Honestly.
04:20It would totally bother me if I had two exes
04:22who all of a sudden started hanging out.
04:24Now, I'm going to talk about an incident
04:26that resulted in your filing a restraining order
04:29against the plaintiff.
04:31Can we put up Exhibit 14?
04:33Because you allege that,
04:35I think it was in May,
04:36she showed up at your home causing a scene.
04:38What happened when she showed up?
04:41So a few times before this,
04:43she had showed up at my house unannounced.
04:45And this time she showed up at my house
04:47standing in front of my door.
04:48Eventually I opened my door
04:49and she was asking like who my new girlfriend was
04:52and just with my decision making and stuff like that.
04:56May 24th, you go to his house.
04:58What do you say happened?
04:59I came for the bike.
05:00And you were like, where's the bike?
05:02So you had to smash a bunch of stuff?
05:04No, on April 27th,
05:05he said Brayson's bike won't be ready for a couple of days.
05:08So it was three weeks later,
05:09he had blocked me on texts
05:11and social media had no way to contact him.
05:13So I went to his house to ask for the bike.
05:15This is what really struck me.
05:17How old is Brayson?
05:18He's 10.
05:18So Brayson is 10.
05:20The bike is a subject of contention.
05:22There are competing restraining orders.
05:24Nothing happened with either of them.
05:25No, it all got dismissed.
05:26Did you go to court?
05:27No, it got dismissed.
05:28The two of you just decided to mutually dismiss?
05:31Correct.
05:31So this bike,
05:33which has become an incredible bone of contention,
05:36the defendant, your ex-boyfriend,
05:38has purchased it.
05:39He has it.
05:40He doesn't want to give it back.
05:41But didn't you buy Brayson a new bike?
05:44I did.
05:44So now, ma'am,
05:46you buy your son a new bike,
05:47and then you said that he cried
05:50and said he missed his old bike.
05:53Really?
05:53Yeah.
05:54After that incident where I came to the house,
05:57he didn't give the bike back.
05:58I went and purchased him a new bike from Walmart.
06:00It's a cheap bike.
06:01I think it was around $100.
06:03We went for a bike ride,
06:04and it was uncomfortable.
06:05He said his butt was hurting.
06:07He just,
06:07he was crying about it
06:09and said he missed his old bike.
06:11And that just bothered me as a mom.
06:13It's not fair.
06:14It was gifted to him.
06:15There's no reason that he shouldn't have it.
06:17I'm wondering,
06:17just didn't it occur to you
06:18to maybe like,
06:19look, we got to cut our losses.
06:20This bike is making mommy very angry.
06:22It's making mommy's ex very angry.
06:24And sometimes,
06:26adults have to know
06:27when to stop acting like children
06:28and to tell children,
06:29we have to move on.
06:31Yeah, I could have just let it go
06:33and let it be,
06:34but I was just upset
06:34because I saw my son crying over it,
06:37and that makes me sad for him.
06:40Judge Domingo?
06:41Oh, please.
06:43Really?
06:44That's not what this is about.
06:46You want to see him.
06:48Coming up on Tribunal Justice.
06:51He grabbed your wrists
06:52according to what you said.
06:53Pushed me three weeks
06:54after my back surgery
06:55in front of all of the children.
06:57In front of all the children.
06:58Yeah.
07:02Rachel Simpson is suing
07:04ex-boyfriend Stephen Oliver
07:05for a bike she says
07:06he gave to her son
07:07or $383 to buy a new one.
07:11But Stephen says
07:12the bike was no gift.
07:13It belongs to his daughter
07:14and that Rachel is just using
07:16any excuse to stalk him.
07:18What kind of person
07:19goes calling his ex-wife?
07:21Somebody's like stalking him.
07:22You.
07:23Call his ex-wife
07:24because your kids
07:25need to be friends?
07:26Yes.
07:26No, give me a break.
07:28The reason I became friends with her
07:28was because my son
07:29was having a birthday.
07:30But the point I want to make
07:32is that here you are,
07:33you go back,
07:34the bike is damaged
07:35February 10th
07:36if I'm not mistaken.
07:37Correct?
07:38You break up February 27th
07:40or 28th.
07:41Correct?
07:4124th.
07:4224th.
07:43Boy, you got that down.
07:44February 24th.
07:45She still has the bike
07:46at this point.
07:47She then decides
07:48a month after the breakup
07:50in March
07:51to bring you this bike
07:52so that you
07:53could then bring it
07:54to be fixed.
07:55So this is about
07:57you seeing him.
07:58I watched you so carefully
07:59in this courtroom.
08:00Most people come in here,
08:02they look straight on.
08:03You know the way you looked?
08:04This direction.
08:06All catching him.
08:07That's what you did.
08:08Because when I see cases
08:09like this with individuals
08:10hooking up with ex-girlfriends,
08:12bringing their kids together,
08:14making a ridiculous statement
08:15like my son was going to cry
08:17over some bicycle
08:18that was two years old
08:19when I could have gotten
08:20him a brand new one,
08:21you know what I know?
08:23That you are stalking him.
08:25And your T.O.P.
08:26wasn't dismissed.
08:28Didn't you agree to reduce it
08:29to just a stay-away order
08:30or something?
08:31Yep.
08:32So I reduced it
08:33to a stay-away order
08:34after my...
08:34So yours was granted
08:35and then you agreed
08:36to reduce it
08:37after the lawyer spoke to you.
08:38Correct.
08:39And said you don't want
08:39to be with her anyway
08:40so just go along with this
08:41so she doesn't have
08:42to deal with this.
08:43Correct.
08:44Yours was dismissed,
08:45not his.
08:46This is about you.
08:48You go to his house
08:49unsolicited,
08:50it's about you.
08:50I went to his house
08:51because he blocked me.
08:52Because he cut you off,
08:53he blocked you.
08:54Yes.
08:54And you had to have
08:55this bike.
08:56After we split up,
08:57I gave the bike to him
08:58in April to get fixed.
09:00Yeah, right.
09:01That's my point.
09:02Why don't you just keep it
09:03and bring it to be fixed
09:03and lay out $127?
09:06Bring it someplace else.
09:07Don't you see?
09:08Yes, but he had
09:09an REI membership
09:09which I was under
09:10the impression
09:11it was under the warranty.
09:12Ma'am,
09:13it was not under the warranty.
09:14You had the bike two years.
09:15You ride bikes.
09:16You know.
09:17You laid out $100 for a bike
09:19and then you were
09:20going to give him $127
09:22to fix the bike
09:23that you were going
09:24to go get.
09:25So for $227,
09:27you could have bought him
09:28the identical bike.
09:29Do you hear yourself?
09:30So what did you
09:31and his ex-wife
09:32talk about?
09:33Yes, well we became
09:34friends.
09:34You've made a friend.
09:36You see,
09:36you keep your friends close,
09:38you keep your enemies closer.
09:40Yes.
09:40You're the kind of person.
09:41We became friends
09:42March was my son's birthday.
09:44He was having a birthday party
09:45and he really wanted
09:46the kids to come.
09:46And of course,
09:47he really wanted the kids to come.
09:48He really wanted that bike.
09:49He was crying
09:50because the other bike
09:51is behind.
09:51that he considered.
09:52He would call them
09:53his brothers and sisters.
09:54So I reached out
09:55to his ex-wife
09:55and I said,
09:56I know that we're not friends
09:57and we never have.
09:59Honestly,
09:59I thought she didn't
10:00like me at the beginning.
10:01She probably didn't.
10:02Probably not.
10:02And so I said,
10:04Brayson's having
10:04a birthday party
10:05and he really wants
10:05the kids to come.
10:06If you're up to that,
10:08he would really like it.
10:09If not,
10:09I understand.
10:10And then you all
10:10became best friends.
10:11Judge Levy.
10:12The enemy of my enemy
10:14is my friend.
10:15That's it.
10:15That was a better one
10:16than mine.
10:17That's exactly right.
10:18Can we please put up
10:19photos 13 and 14, please?
10:23This is the May 15th incident.
10:25Is that right, sir?
10:26Yes, sir.
10:26And that's right,
10:27Ms. Simpson?
10:28Yes.
10:28Photograph on the right,
10:29Ms. Simpson?
10:30Mm-hmm.
10:30What'd you do there?
10:31I kicked over the bricks.
10:32I was upset
10:33because I asked
10:34for the bike back,
10:34which he stated
10:35would be ready
10:36in a couple days
10:36and three weeks later
10:37he said that
10:38he didn't have the bike.
10:39Can we go to
10:40the next one, please?
10:41I think number 14.
10:43That's the damage
10:44on the right there.
10:44That's a pot
10:45that you knocked over, ma'am?
10:46Yes, that was my pot.
10:47He was giving back to me.
10:48Yeah, and you were just mad
10:50and you let your anger
10:50get the better of you?
10:52Yes, our whole relationship
10:53was very volatile.
10:54I could see.
10:55Yeah.
10:56On the left,
10:57what damage was it
10:58that you did there?
10:58I don't know what that is.
11:00Why don't you tell us there,
11:00Mr. Oliver,
11:01what did you do?
11:02No, that's a kick
11:02to my security door
11:03where she was standing behind
11:04when that happened.
11:06Mm-hmm.
11:06So here's a question
11:07I have for you.
11:08And having done a fair share
11:10of these domestic violence requests,
11:13both for battered women
11:14and also for members
11:16of the Fathers' Rights Association
11:17where they got accused
11:18of stuff that they didn't do,
11:19my question is,
11:20when you went to
11:21the domestic violence court
11:23and you made your application
11:24for an order of protection
11:25against him,
11:27that was on what day?
11:28May 22nd?
11:29Yes.
11:30By the way,
11:30you provided this to us,
11:31correct?
11:32All allegations,
11:33how terrible he is.
11:35He's bipolar.
11:36He's violent around the kids.
11:38That's what you said, right?
11:39Absolutely, yes.
11:40Right.
11:41And when you said that,
11:42he wasn't in court
11:43to defend himself.
11:44You went alone.
11:45Yes.
11:46You filed it on May 22nd?
11:48Yes.
11:48And the most recent incident
11:51was the May 15th incident
11:52that you committed
11:53a crime against him.
11:55Did you tell the judge
11:56that you did that?
11:57No, because we never
11:58got to that point.
11:59Yes, it does.
12:00It says here,
12:00when were the acts of violence,
12:02when were the acts of crimes
12:03that were committed?
12:03Oh, that was the acts
12:04of violence from him.
12:05I didn't take that
12:06as acts of violence from me.
12:08You got to read,
12:08you got to read
12:09your application better.
12:10The judge wanted to know
12:11what the history
12:12between the two of you was.
12:14Okay, then I misunderstood.
12:15I just wrote.
12:17I get it.
12:17Because he wrote
12:18what I did wrong,
12:19I wrote what he did wrong.
12:19By the way,
12:20you go to court
12:21because you felt afraid, right?
12:23Mm-hmm.
12:23He had threatened you
12:24on multiple occasions
12:25in the past.
12:26Mm-hmm.
12:26He grabbed your wrists
12:27according to what you said.
12:29And pushed me
12:29three weeks after my back surgery
12:31in front of all of the children.
12:32In front of all the children.
12:33Yes.
12:33We're going to get to that
12:34in a second.
12:34Very traumatic.
12:35I know.
12:36So traumatic
12:37and so afraid were you
12:39that you went to his house,
12:41you committed that crime,
12:42that criminal mischief,
12:43without any fear
12:45that he would grab you,
12:46throw you on the ground,
12:47bop you over the head.
12:48Because at this point in time,
12:50we were still on good terms.
12:52Coming up
12:53on Tribunal Justice.
12:55Your demeanor here
12:57is so out of line.
12:59Are you in counseling?
13:05Rachel Simpson
13:06is suing her ex,
13:07Stephen Oliver,
13:08for the return of a bike
13:09she says he gave to her son
13:10or $383,
13:12the cost of a new one.
13:14But Stephen claims
13:15the bike is his daughter's
13:16and Rachel is using it
13:17as an excuse
13:18to remain in his life.
13:20You committed that crime,
13:21that criminal mischief,
13:22without any fear
13:24that he would grab you.
13:25Because at this point in time,
13:26we were still on good terms
13:27up until the incident.
13:29From what I understand,
13:30you told my colleagues,
13:31the judge didn't even grant you
13:33a temporary order of protection.
13:35No.
13:36After reading all these
13:37nasty allegations.
13:39Because they were from
13:39in the past.
13:40No, that's not why.
13:41Judges do that all the time.
13:42But I suspect
13:43that the reason the judge
13:45didn't grant you
13:45order of protection
13:46based upon the allegations
13:47is because he didn't believe you.
13:48Well, that's what it had noted.
13:50And they had noted
13:51that it was too far in the past.
13:52Didn't believe you.
13:52So in here,
13:53you talk about threatening texts
13:55in which you claim
13:56the defendant sent you texts
13:58saying,
13:58I'll tear you both apart.
14:00You will both find out
14:01what happens
14:02when you take away my kids.
14:04That's what you claim
14:05he said.
14:06Yes.
14:06We have no context in that.
14:08Why don't you tell her
14:09what the context is
14:10of those texts
14:11that you told her
14:12about you will both
14:13find out what happens
14:14when you take away my kids.
14:16So this incident here,
14:18I was walking into Walmart
14:19and I was minding
14:20my own business
14:21and she had come up
14:23behind me
14:23and got right into my face
14:25harassing me
14:26and I pushed my cart away.
14:28I exited Walmart
14:29and in the parking lot,
14:31she was saying
14:33that she's in a team up
14:34with the mother
14:34of my children
14:35and try to get the kids
14:36taken away from me
14:37in court.
14:38That's when I was like,
14:39oh, I will tear
14:40both of you apart in court
14:41if you try to take away
14:42my children.
14:43That's exactly right.
14:44She was harassing me
14:45the entire time.
14:46Hold on.
14:46You admit that you saw him
14:47in the Walmart.
14:48Yes.
14:48And when he walked away from you,
14:50you followed him
14:50into the parking lot.
14:51Yes.
14:52And you exchanged words
14:53at his car.
14:53I did not say those words,
14:55but yes.
14:56Yeah, because you're not
14:57going to admit
14:57that you said those words.
14:58No, I mean, I admit it.
14:59And do you have reason
15:00to believe that
15:00that's what she did?
15:02That she spoke to your ex-wife,
15:04told your ex-wife stuff
15:05that interfered
15:06with your relationship
15:07with your kids?
15:08Absolutely.
15:08Because your wife filed
15:10a modification of your
15:11custody and visitation petition,
15:13didn't she?
15:14That's what you did.
15:15You chirp in his ex-wife's ear
15:17about stuff that-
15:18No, that's not true.
15:19Oh, it's not?
15:20That's not true.
15:20So let me ask you this.
15:21It's all public record.
15:23Now, your ex-wife
15:24goes to court
15:25and files a modification
15:26of the visitation order
15:28seeking to suspend
15:29your contact with your kids
15:31unless you went
15:31to forced mediation.
15:33Yes, sir, and it was denied.
15:34I remember that.
15:34Yes, it was.
15:35The judge didn't buy
15:36her story either.
15:37My sense is that
15:38the judge knew
15:38that you guys
15:39were in cahoots.
15:40I've seen it all too often
15:41and it's disgusting
15:42because you couldn't
15:43give him up.
15:45You know what it's like?
15:46I don't want him, no.
15:46Yeah, I know you don't want him.
15:47The relationship was horrific.
15:48You knew exactly
15:49what going to his ex-wife
15:50was going to do.
15:51I didn't tell her that.
15:51We're going to cause her
15:52to go to court.
15:53We were planning on going
15:54on a trip together
15:54and I was supposed
15:56to pick up his kids
15:57from school
15:57and that day
15:58he filed the restraining order
15:59and then he was like,
16:00I can't pick up the kids.
16:01I'm so sorry.
16:02So that's what started
16:03all of this.
16:04Okay.
16:04Now, would you agree
16:05with me, Ms. Simpson,
16:07that it would be
16:08inherently unfair
16:09for a litigant
16:11to go to one court
16:12and make a request
16:14for some relief,
16:15have that judge deny
16:17the relief that's requested
16:19and then decide
16:20to go to another court
16:21and make that same request?
16:23I did not do that.
16:24In your application
16:25to the judge
16:26on May 22nd,
16:28the one that you just admitted
16:29was dismissed,
16:31what was it that you asked
16:32the judge in court for?
16:35For possession
16:35of my son's bike.
16:36And the judge denied
16:38and dismissed your complaint,
16:40right?
16:40Yes, everything was dismissed.
16:41And now here you are
16:42in front of us
16:43wanting the same bike back.
16:44By the way,
16:45I believe you bought the bike
16:46as a gift for her son,
16:48but that's okay.
16:48I have nothing further.
16:50I have a few more questions.
16:51May I hear from
16:52your witness, please?
16:53Could you state your name
16:54for the record, please?
16:55Jenna Jacobson.
16:56What's your relationship
16:57to the plaintiff?
16:58She's one of my best friends.
17:00Okay.
17:00I'm going to take your testimony
17:01with a grain of salt
17:03because, frankly,
17:04you're not impartial.
17:06That doesn't mean
17:06that I think you're a liar.
17:08So now,
17:09what evidence do you have
17:10to offer Ms. Jacobson
17:11that this was, in fact,
17:13a gift from the defendant?
17:16I've been friends with her
17:18and they were in a relationship
17:20for the majority
17:20of our friendship
17:22and we would go on bike rides
17:24and then once his bike
17:26was getting fixed,
17:27I knew that it was with Stephen
17:28and then when he wouldn't
17:30give it back,
17:31then Brayson had no bike.
17:33You can take your seat.
17:34Okay.
17:34And Ms. Simpson,
17:35I took some time
17:36at the outset
17:37of my examination
17:38to go over some text messages
17:40that were sent
17:41between the two of you.
17:43There's a later one
17:44that I think
17:45is pretty instructive
17:47from my perspective.
17:48This was submitted
17:49by the defendant.
17:50It looks like the date
17:51was May 2024,
17:53after the breakup
17:54when things are really messy
17:55and you're mad at her.
17:57You say priorities
17:59were debit card info,
18:00which you harassed me about
18:01and an a** bike
18:03and then slander
18:04and talk,
18:05S word,
18:06and stalk me
18:07and now you're kind of,
18:08you're mad.
18:09And in response
18:10to his anger,
18:11you say,
18:12by giving you a bike back
18:14because I bought a new one.
18:17What that text message
18:19says to me
18:20is that you gave him
18:21the bike back,
18:22you bought Brayson
18:23a new bike,
18:24that you had no intention
18:25of making this bike
18:26a big issue.
18:27He's the big issue,
18:29Judge.
18:29But he had the bike
18:31at his house
18:31because it needed repairs
18:32and then I came back
18:34to pick up the bike
18:34so I didn't have the bike
18:36so I'm not sure
18:37why that text said
18:37to give it back to him.
18:39You had the bike.
18:41I know you went
18:42to this REI thing
18:44that he belonged to
18:45but you would think
18:46with all the turmoil
18:47and angst
18:49in this relationship
18:50and the alleged aggravation
18:51and fear that you felt
18:53that you would have
18:53kept the bike
18:54because you bought it,
18:55it was yours,
18:56and brought it to be fixed
18:58instead of continuing
18:59to rely on the man
19:00who you don't want
19:02to be in a relationship
19:03with any longer.
19:04Yes.
19:04There's also something,
19:05your demeanor here
19:07is so out of line
19:09with what the things
19:11we've been saying to you
19:12and the allegations
19:14that we are putting out there
19:16about your behavior
19:17with him.
19:18It's just incongruous.
19:19Are you in counseling?
19:21Huh?
19:21Are you in counseling?
19:22Therapy?
19:23Good.
19:24I don't have any other questions.
19:25We're going to retire
19:26to deliberate.
19:27Thank you all.
19:28Court now stands in recess.
19:30High side.
19:31See you.
19:38I think there are
19:39different types of gifts.
19:40When you're in a relationship
19:41and your kids
19:42are playing together,
19:44it is perfectly comprehensible
19:46to me that you'd say,
19:48oh yeah, it's his to use
19:49while he's here,
19:50while the kids are biking.
19:51He never really had possession
19:53of the bike, Brayson.
19:54I do not believe Brayson
19:55had such emotional attachment
19:57to this bike
19:58that after she buys him
20:00a new bike,
20:00after she essentially,
20:02in my view,
20:03relinquishes ownership
20:04in this text message
20:05to the defendant
20:05that, oh no,
20:06my boy is so sad,
20:07I got to go get him this bike.
20:08Oh, he had a meltdown.
20:09Yeah, I don't buy that.
20:10I don't see any basis
20:11for either ordering him
20:13to return it or pay her.
20:14I agree with you.
20:15But I think if you would listen
20:17to what she was saying,
20:19like when you were asking,
20:19did you break that planter?
20:21Yeah, I broke that.
20:22Did you kick that wall down?
20:23Yeah, I kicked that wall down.
20:24Did you do...
20:25It's almost as though
20:26acting out is acceptable to her
20:28and on the same level,
20:29her son acts out.
20:30You know, he cries,
20:31he cries,
20:32and she says, okay.
20:33I mean, it's like,
20:34they're perpetuating
20:35that type of
20:36inappropriate behavior.
20:37I am appalled
20:39by the idea
20:40that she made friends
20:41with the wife.
20:42Appalled.
20:43I mean, you see that
20:44so often in these situations
20:45where they're trying
20:46to insert themselves
20:48in the person's life.
20:49They can't get into them directly,
20:50so they become
20:51friends with their friends.
20:52That was weird.
20:53Friends with their friends,
20:55friends with the ex-wife,
20:56friends...
20:56And I've heard people say,
20:57oh yeah, those used
20:58to be his friends,
20:59but they're all mine now.
20:59And it's like connecting
21:01to the person
21:01any way you can.
21:03Stalking him in the store.
21:04Yeah, did you stalk him?
21:05Yeah, I did.
21:05I mean, there was no end
21:07to her abuse of him.
21:08So I think she's entitled
21:10to nothing.
21:10I almost wish
21:11he counterclaimed
21:12for harassment.
21:13I agree with both of you,
21:14and I believe that
21:15her case should be dismissed.
21:16And the other reason
21:17is that she filed
21:19the same request
21:20regarding the bike
21:21with the case
21:22in the domestic violence court
21:23that the judge dismissed.
21:25And she turns around
21:26and still can't let it go.
21:28You all know
21:29how rare it is
21:31for a judge
21:31in an ex-parte
21:32domestic violence petition
21:34to deny
21:35a temporary
21:36order of protection.
21:38It's usually,
21:39I'd give it to her
21:40on a temporary basis,
21:41better safe than sorry,
21:43because as the judges
21:44will say to themselves,
21:45because if he or she
21:47ends up dead,
21:48I don't want it on me.
21:50So what they do
21:51is they're just
21:51more inclined to grant it.
21:53Luckily for him,
21:55the judge saw through
21:56her nonsense
21:57when he denied her request.
21:59So if you didn't
22:01do anything wrong
22:02and someone's
22:02manipulating the system,
22:04stick to your guns
22:05and hope, pray,
22:06that you get a smart enough judge
22:08who can see through it.
22:09Sounds to me
22:10like we're unanimous.
22:10Yeah, and it's not
22:11a good situation at all.
22:13Thanks.
22:17Court is back in session.
22:19Parties are reminded
22:20you're still under oath.
22:21Thank you, Byrd.
22:22We have deliberated
22:23and we've reached
22:24a unanimous verdict.
22:25And I'm going to tell you
22:26this, Ms. Simpson.
22:27You caught a break.
22:29And the break
22:29is that the defendant
22:31did not countersue you
22:32for harassment.
22:34The property damage,
22:36the rants in public,
22:37threatening to take away
22:38his children,
22:39these are things that
22:41had you asserted
22:42a counterclaim against her,
22:44you very well
22:45might have prevailed.
22:46And the fact that he didn't
22:47is also further evidence
22:49that he just doesn't want
22:50anything to do with you.
22:51You are suing him
22:53over a bike
22:54that one you already replaced,
22:56over which you relinquished
22:58ownership
22:58that was the subject
23:00of a claim
23:00you raised in another court,
23:02and you still can't get enough.
23:05Court's a real thing.
23:06People wait in line
23:07to have their cases heard.
23:09Not heard and re-heard
23:11and re-heard
23:11and I've already handled
23:13the property,
23:13but my son is really sad,
23:15so even though you allegedly
23:17have beaten me
23:18while I'm chasing you down
23:19in Walmart
23:20and showing up at your house
23:21and breaking your stuff,
23:22you just gotta give me
23:23the bike back.
23:24I mean, it just rings hollow.
23:26Your case is most certainly dismissed.
23:29Good luck to you, sir,
23:30and good luck with your family.
23:31Thank you, ma'am.
23:32This case is now concluded.
23:33Parties are excused.
23:34You may step out.
23:39I'm a little bit upset
23:40because, sorry,
23:42I feel like the characters,
23:45they got it all wrong.
23:46It's just another attempt
23:47to harass, to be honest with you.
23:48The bike was a gift to my son.
23:50He loved that bike.
23:52My children will grow out of that one.
23:53I'll sell that one.
23:54They'll have new ones, so.
23:55She's crazy,
23:56but really he's crazy.
23:58I just go separate ways.
23:59I don't give any energy to her
24:01and just wish her the best.
24:03It's okay.
24:04I'll just,
24:06I'm gonna buy the same bike.
24:07It's just sad that I have to
24:09fork over the money myself.
24:10Got family drama?
24:12Let Tribunal Justice
24:13decide your case.
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